Joagbaje:



Why should Christians live beggarly life because of heaven. Did Christ die for them to suffer?

The Bible declares God gave us all things to enjoy.

Don't mind the deluded guy!

I would like to discuss this shit with him if he would agree.

peacesamuel94:



why stirring up hate against Christians and Christianity, we did not come to earth, just to die and go to heaven, There is a reason we came to earth in the first place. God created us to dominate in all spheres of life, although some so called Christians now worship materialism. This few Christians should not be used as the yardstick for judging what Christianity truly entails.

Thank you, the purpose of life right from Genesis is to be fruitful and have DOMINION here on earth, l believe by ushering in the kingdom of God into this very world, though this would be brought about by God himself but he calls us to be partakers of this ahead of time. God's judgment of sinners is real, but the judgment is not the focus of the gospel. This is a quote of Isaiah 61 by Jesus in the gospel of Luke..
.Luke 4:18 , The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Note how he stopped at the first part of Isaiah 61v2, and didn't complete it(even though the second part of the verse is also real).

felixomor:


Soryy. You still dont have any historical facts,
"The first human " is not the name of anybody. You are still quoting vague stuff. You will never win any debate that way.
Moreover, where in Christianity is war and execution permitted? As you have stated.
If you have the audacity to quote such false stuff in a forum as this, it shows your level of study and sorry to say, we are not on the same level.

That's how senseless they can sound, to be frank!

promise10:

That's how senseless they can sound, to be frank!

If anyone is senseless, it would be u and the twerp u quoted

Fact

so much lies in one person. Read this link

https://www.nairaland.com/3485930/exposing-hardmirror-tale-two-mirrors

MISHIGAS!

I am no fan of Organized Religion, which, at least for Christianity, is summarized as follows:

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

THEN came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,

2. "Why do thy Disciples
transgress the Tradition
of the Elders?
For they wash not
their hands when
they eat bread."

3. But he answered
and Said unto them,

"Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God
by your Tradition?
4. "For God Commanded,
Saying,

'HONOUR THY FATHER
AND MOTHER:
AND, HE THAT CURSETH
FATHER OR MOTHER
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'

5. "But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

6. 'AND HONOUR NOT
HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'

Thus have ye made
The Commandment of God
of none effect
by your Tradition.
7. "Ye Hypocrites,
well did Esaias
Prophesy of you,
saying,

8. 'THIS PEOPLE
DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN
THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS
OF MEN.' "

10. And he called the multitude,
and Said unto them,

"Hear, and understand:
11. "Not that which goeth
into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh
out of the mouth,
this defileth a man."

12. Then came his Disciples,
and Said unto him,

"Knowest thou that
the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"

13. But he answered and Said,

"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not Planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders
of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."

15. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Declare unto us this Parable."

16. And Jesus Said,

"Are ye also yet
without understanding?
17. "Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth
goeth into the belly,
and is cast out
into the draught?
18. "But those things
which proceed
out of the mouth
come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
19. "For out of the heart
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Murders, Adulteries,
Fornications, Thefts,
False Witness, Blasphemies:
20. These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with
unwashen hands
defileth not a man."

(1) USELESS TRADITIONS-OF-MEN THAT ADD NOTHING TO ACTUAL SPIRITUALITY!

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes
and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them
on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad
their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love
the Uppermost Rooms
at feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings
in the markets,
and to be called of men,
'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man
your father
upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye
called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is
greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall
exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall
humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

(2) THE EVEN LITERAL IDOLIZING OF UNWORTHY MEN- AS IF EXCESSIVELY HONOURING AND SERVING THEM IS AN ALTERNATIVE AND SUBSTITUTE FOR ACTUALLY HONOURING AND SERVING GOD!

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he Said also
unto his Disciples,

"There was
a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same
was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'

3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'

5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'

6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'

7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'

And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'

8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for The Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than
The Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'

10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye
have not been Faithful
in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will
hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

(3) IT IS PRETENDED THAT A CHRISTIAN CLERGYMAN HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ABROGATE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD WHO SUPPOSEDLY GAVE THEM THEIR AUTHORITY!

But to say that Christians are more Evil than other Religions on Earth is going way too far!

I know that you cannot be so stupid and ignorant that you do not know about:

(1) THE CHURCH OF SATAN: People who literally worship THE DEVIL of The Bible.

(2) JUDAISM: Oyinbos who have hijacked the Hebrew Religion, as of the 9^th Century, and have wormed their way into Gentile Society, swearing to subvert and rule all other nations by criminally immoral means.

They faked The Holocaust and used it as a pretext to seize the land of Palestine, oppressing and exterminating the original inhabitants of the land- whereas they are not related to the actual Hebrew Israelites.

[See: THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION.
THE INTERNATIONAL JEW: The World's Most Foremost Problem, by Henry Ford.]

(3) FREEMASONRY: A Front for LUCIFERANISM, claiming its origin as far back as Ancient Babylon. It formsba Secret Government within and above the Oyinbos' national Governments.

(4) RADICAL ISLAMIC RELIGION: Known for waging war on unarmed Civilians. Brainwashing their own members into sneaking into gatherings of Christians and Muslims, and blowing themselves up, to advance the Agenda of their leaders- who are trained and funded by the American CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY (CIA).

You surely know the existence of all these... Human Sewages... but YOU say that "CHRISTIANS ARE WORSE THAN ALL OF THEM!"

By what Right?

What are your qualifications as a judge?

Have you researched Christianity, and differentiate between those who follow the Teachings of Lord Yeshua sincerely, and those who do not?

Do you differentiate between Christians who are harmful, and those who are harmless?

Do you understand that slandering the Religion of God is digging your grave with that your own mouth?

HardMirror:

Pastors are buying private jets and building mega churches.

Wait a minute.
They claim the private jets are for evangelism. Lol.

Have they won all the souls within their towns talkless of within the state, talkless of within the country?

Where are they Jetting to?

If they must travel out what happened to commercial airliners.

THE MEMBERS OF CHURCHES CONTRIBUTE THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY TO THEIR CHURCHES, FOR THEIR CHOSEN LEADERS TO DO WITH IT AS THEY SEE FIT.

Who are you to despise them for doing what they want with their own money?

How does that make them not only evil at all, but more evil than the Religions I mentioned above?

HardMirror:

Are we saying they are no hungry people in Redeem or winner?

Some people can't even pay house rent, school fees, buy decent cloths, but the pastors are spending billions of naira on private jets. Hmmm

Even members are evil towards each other.

ADULTS EARN THE MONEY THEY NEED FOR THE NECESSITIES AND LUXURIES OF LIFE.

They should not need to join Churches just because they want handouts.

Whereas, handouts are available, if they are wanted.

If someone joins a Church looking for free handouts- and the prosperous members are stingy- why stay in such a church?

My co-workers Sister was a faithful member of the Pentecostal Full Gospel WINNER'S CHAPEL.

I advised them to leave, because their DIVINE HEALING wasn't helping the Sister, who had Blood Pressure issues, and had to be hospitalized.

They wouldn't talk to me, but let Christian Doctors sell them Cheap Prescription Drugs, until her KIDNEYS failed, and she had to have even more expensive DIALYSIS treatments- at N20,000 per session. The retiree Sister could only afford THREE sessions, and so her Sister, a lovely mother of three, died.

Not old.

Should the money the Pastor spent on a jet have been used to pay for the treatment of poor Church members?

I hate the organized Church System, and that their UNLAWFUL PASTORS are paid very well for INADEQUATE, INCOMPLETE, and FALSE SERVICES. If they did what they CLAIMED they were doing, I would say: "MORE POWER TO THEM!"

But they DON'T- that is what I hate about them.

BUT ALL OF THEM AGREE TOGETHER THAT THEY ARE ALL FINE WITH THESE LEVELS OF INCOMPETENT SERVICES!

Both the DYING and the BEREAVED!

That is their CHOICE.

What is wrong with them spending their own money to buy what THEY ALL WANT?

What makes THEM more evil than YOU, and what YOU spend your money on?

No one has the Right to hear The Gospel twice, until everyone has heard It once.

Pastors don't need jets to preach to locals. The locals know who they are, and where they are. They should be able to go reach people who have never heard of them.

Also, if anyone complains that the Pastors are too rich, while the laity are too poor: any Christian who remains a layman, and hates poverty, has seen the way to riches.

Why don't they become Pastors, and become enriched, if that is what they believe in?