Christians and Muslims, how will you feel, if in the end there is no God, ? and all you have done in the name of God happens to be wastes and it turned out that Atheists are right .

What will you do ?

If the atheist happens to be right, then I, as a Christian have nothing to lose (well, except time, and material things). However, can the atheist say the same if the tables are turned, and in fact the Christian happens to be right?

I hoped not to plonk out a Bible here, but I feel that this is relevant to this discussion. Coming from the man himself, here is what who doesn't believe in Jesus has to lose -

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him. 9John 3:36)

I guess it's up to you to compare the cons in both cases.

ogogoro:

I hoped not to plonk out a Bible here, but I feel that this is relevant to this discussion. Coming from the man himself, here is what who doesn't believe in Jesus has to lose -

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him. 9John 3:36)

I guess it's up to you to compare the cons in both cases.

So you are saying that all those millions of Jews in Israel who don't believe Jesus is the son of God and they do not believe the gospel of Mohammed will all go to hell, despite being the chosen one ?

banom:

Christians and Muslims, how will you feel, if in the end there is no God, ? and all you have done in the name of God happens to be wastes and it turned out that Atheists are right .

What will you do ?

and what would u do if u then realise at death that Jesus is Lord?

banom:

So you are saying that all those millions of Jews in Israel who don't believe Jesus is the son of God and they do not believe the gospel of Mohammed will all go to hell, despite being the chosen one ?

My brother, you can verify the statement for yourself - John 3:36. I didn't say it, Jesus did.

A fool says in his heart 'there is no God'.

ogogoro:

My brother, you can verify the statement for yourself - John 3:36. I didn't say it, Jesus did.

and what makes you think Jesus Christ cant be wrong ?

Nezan:

A fool says in his heart 'there is no God'.

that is what you use to compensate your insecurity.

banom:

Christians and Muslims, how will you feel, if in the end there is no God, ? and all you have done in the name of God happens to be wastes and it turned out that Atheists are right .

What will you do ?

  . . . its like asking how would I feel if I had never been born.

Banom troublemaker  you're asking us to envision a scenario that is virtually impossible and then speculate on how we would feel?  sawrry, even my overactive imagination cannot begin to tackle such a false undertaking.

@poster

Yes i can prove to you that it cannot be proved to be possible to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

There was no beforelife. So there will be no afterlife.

Do atheist believe there is an end?

If ATheists are right then there will be no end so nobody will ever know. Affirmation is only possible if christians or muslims are right.

Pastor AIO:

If ATheists are right then there will be no end so nobody will ever know. Affirmation is only possible if christians or muslims are right.

Hence since there is no end, then there is no reason for atheists to give a Zap (which they unfortunately do . . . why )

@Banom: « on: Yesterday at 10:38:19 AM »

Christians and Muslims, how will you feel, if in the end there is no God, ? and all you have done in the name of God happens to be wastes and it turned out that Atheists are right .
What will you do ?

Atheists start out half Muslims anyhow. The deficiency of the atheists is the arrogance thinking that all of the complex collages of "unduplicated creation" is an accidental chance! You should ask yourself what if you are wrong with all the evidences that you reject outright? Can God be blamed for metering out the due Justice on you?


@ogogoro :« #2 on: Yesterday at 10:55:20 AM »

I hoped not to plonk out a Bible here, but I feel that this is relevant to this discussion. Coming from the man himself, here is what who doesn't believe in Jesus has to lose -
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him. 9John 3:36)
I guess it's up to you to compare the cons in both cases.

Jesus didn't say that. You and your Bible writers said thats what Jesus said. Jesus knew better not to say that he is a son of his Creator! Why would the Creator have a child, which will negate His Creator Position, since that will not be 100% anymore?


@banom (m): « #3 on: Yesterday at 11:08:20 AM »

So you are saying that all those millions of Jews in Israel who don't believe Jesus is the son of God and they do not believe the gospel of Mohammed will all go to hell, despite being the chosen one ?

Tell him banom! At least Muslims say that they 100% submit to God,in Ebglish, Allah in Arabic, Olorun in Yoruba, Chukwu in Igbo, Obangiji in Hausa. You cant be chosen and mentain that status f you ignore and disbelieve in any prophet of the Creator. This disbelief in a prophet (AS) knocks Jews and Christians out of the box!

Funny!!
People keep arguing about the existence and non.existence of God as if it bothers Him in anyway.
The teachings of the bible to me is just for the benefits of man and not for God.
Abi if u do bad and Karma comes knockin no be u go pay abi na God?
As for the atheists I guess u created urself n the earth u dwell in.

i wouldnt have lost anything.

banom:

that is what you use to compensate your insecurity.

if you were secure you wont be bothering who's right or wrong. You wont even be on the religion thread at all.

davidylan:

i wouldnt have lost anything.

Would classify myself as a moderate christian. Definitely agree with u.

davidylan:

if you were secure you wont be bothering who's right or wrong. You wont even be on the religion thread at all.

Absoluely spot on mate.

Religion, especially Christianity and Islam, affect everyone, whether you are a believer or not.

davidylan:

if you were secure you wont be bothering who's right or wrong. You wont even be on the religion thread at all.

I am only trying to alert you on the fact that you will regret it more than myself if in the end you are wrong,

banom:

I am only trying to alert you on the fact that you will regret it more than myself if in the end you are wrong,

That's absurd. See it this way . . .

1. I remain a committed, genuine christian . . . at the end i find out there is no eternity. What have i lost? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

2. You remain a confused, insecure atheist . . . at the end you find out eternity in Christ Jesus does exist . . . what have you lost? YOUR SOUL IN ETERNAL HELL.

davidylan:

That's absurd. See it this way . . .

1. I remain a committed, genuine christian . . . at the end i find out there is no eternity. What have i lost? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

2. You remain a confused, insecure atheist . . . at the end you find out eternity in Christ Jesus does exist . . . what have you lost? YOUR SOUL IN ETERNAL HELL.

What if in the end you find out Mohammed is real, what will you do ?

Muslim are secure and have nothing to loose. We believe in Jesus, his miracles are in the Quran. The jews dont believe in Jesus while christians dont dont believe in Mohammed. The Atheist dont believe all.

banom:

What if in the end you find out Mohammed is real, what will you do ?

His soul in eternal hell. . He talks about things like soul but if you ask him to provide a single evidence to show that there is anything called the soul that exist he will start complaining. There is nothing like the soul, the brain controls everything.

davidylan:

That's absurd. See it this way . . .

1. I remain a committed, genuine christian . . . at the end i find out there is no eternity. What have i lost? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

2. You remain a confused, insecure atheist . . . at the end you find out eternity in Christ Jesus does exist . . . what have you lost? YOUR SOUL IN ETERNAL HELL.

Irrational fear IS THE ONLY thing that makes you believe and hold onto all these lies and myths nice for letting us know that fear is what really drives your beliefs.

olabowale:

@ogogoro :« #2 on: Yesterday at 10:55:20 AM » Jesus didn't say that. You and your Bible writers said thats what Jesus said. Jesus knew better not to say that he is a son of his Creator! Why would the Creator have a child, which will negate His Creator Position, since that will not be 100% anymore?

Very confident. Can you please enlighten me on how "me and my Bible writers" managed to confuse Jesus' saying? And also how series of independent Biblical accounts given by different people all happen to be in correspondence?

banom:

What if in the end you find out Mohammed is real, what will you do ?

nothing . . . simply accept it as it is. I'm 110% sure Mohammad isnt real so i'm not losing sleep about that. What about you? Are you 110% sure Christ isnt the way? Why are you losing sleep about Him?

davidylan:

nothing . . . simply accept it as it is. I'm 110% sure Mohammad isnt real so i'm not losing sleep about that. What about you? Are you 110% sure Christ isnt the way? Why are you losing sleep about Him?

I have told you, i am only trying to help you out, i am supposed you should be grateful to me.

@Ogogoro: « #25 on: Today at 08:31:21 PM

Quote from: olabowale on September 03, 2009, 11:10 PM
@ogogoro :« #2 on: Yesterday at 10:55:20 AM » Jesus didn't say that. You and your Bible writers said thats what Jesus said. Jesus knew better not to say that he is a son of his Creator! Why would the Creator have a child, which will negate His Creator Position, since that will not be 100% anymore?

Very confident. Can you please enlighten me on how "me and my Bible writers" managed to confuse Jesus' saying?

Show me any holy book, apart from the Bible that says "Jesus is God, Jesus is son of God, Jesus is crucified, Jesus died, Jesus ressurrected, Jesus is a third of God, Jesus is the last prophet for mankind, Jesus saying is the final for mankind, Jesus is the only way, Jesus is the only salvation source, Jesus is the Creator, Jesus is not created, Jesus is the Lord of the day of Jugement, etc."? You will realise that what I said that you and your Bible writers said is right on the money! By the way the Darby Publishing company is now going to edit anew and produce a gender "based or corrected" NIV, for the world! I guess every so often the "WORD" needs a face lift, to make it more "perfect" than before!

And also how series of independent Biblical accounts given by different people all happen to be in correspondence?

You wanna bet your last dollar on this? Considering that the Gospels do not contain exactly the same informations, and needs updating as in versions, editions, etc, every generation, or just longer or shorter? How about catholic version, Douwy that the protestants copied and the protestants have the gull to call the catholics idolworshippers? You have no right to do that. Only the muslims can call you christians "Wholesale" pagans, since you are at least say Tri (3) nity (gods)!

very funny thread

this is hilario.

@ poster, some religious people would probably commit all the sin they've been dreaming about. me, i will continue to live with the satisfaction that i tried to treat others the way i want to be treated.

Did not need a designer?