These Stans have started bussing nuts again  First and Foremost the song is not all that!! I have heard better collabos in 09. Now back to that track there is nothing out of the ordinary about Eminem's lines granted he was louder than anyone else and this always gives Stans orgasmic pleasure but aside that word for word Eminem didn't massacre anyone.So y'all should cool it

ravenzord:

[b]For lyrical depth on that song it was Drake all the way,[/b]Eminem killed it of course cos his delivery and multis were the illest,as for Kanye,he was just normal Kanye,and Weezy wasn't as bad as everyone's saying,the line: 'Let the king talk, check the price and pay attention. makes sense 2 me. Good Song

Gbasibe!! The thing is i have never been a big multis fan i would simply liken Eminem's verse to Young Buck when he was rapping with G-Unit i am not saying Buck is on the same lyrical level as EM what i am saying is his verses usually catch your attention cos of the high-octane delivery and loudness

shadyBaba:

OK. Dont argue eminem was better than the rest. wether u a fan or not. i thought everyone did fine but eminem and drake may have been just a wee bit better than kanye and wizzy

This I can agree with but MURDER HELL NOOOOO

Did kanye participate in that track for free? I am pretty sure I woulds sounded better than he did. He got so much time on that track and wasted it,sounding like a teen,

My Opinion

And for those of y'all tryna figger out the "label owners want my name beside the X like Malcolm" line,that's pretty obvious: the X is located where you sign contracts. . . so the guy's saying lotsa folks wanna sign him on,and still alluding to his greatness at the same time.

em had the best lyrics in the whole song imo when they asked wayne wht he thot of the song he said it doesnt count as a collabo lol wayne knew

Yeah
Think Eminem's verse was just overhyped.
D song was more like a tribute to LeBron, Wizzy part was ok.
Only Kanye sounded strange.

So he finally admitted he came early , think Carey'll win this battle

'The day Barack got elected, the gangster got irrelevant' - Jay-Z

Eminem is a Joint Killer! i won't feature in the same song with Eminem, i cannot go and go and let him to go and ruin my career! LMAAOOO Haba!

chic2pimp:

This I can agree with but MURDER HELL NOOOOO

YES. . . . .He murdered his contemporaries on this joint.

The difference between Jigga and Eminem on "Renegade" wasn't that significant and yet Nas(the guru of Rap) said Eminem murdered Jay-Z.

If Nasty Nas can use the word MURDER for the slight difference between Jigga and Eminem on that track, then Eminem cremated and buried his fellow rappers on this joint.

QED!!!

~Sauron~:

YES. . . . .He murdered his contemporaries on this joint.

The difference between Jigga and Eminem on "Renegade" wasn't that significant and yet Nas(the guru of Rap) said Eminem murdered Jay-Z.

If Nasty Nas can use the word MURDER for the slight difference between Jigga and Eminem on that track, then Eminem cremated and buried his fellow rappers on this joint.

QED!!!

With all due respect to NAS, while I respect his right to share his opinion, I certainly wouldn't take him seriously. We all know wagwan between them two.

NAs has his own opinion Not worth much when you look back at his history with Jigga!

chic2pimp:

With all due respect to NAS, while I respect his right to share his opinion, I certainly wouldn't take him seriously. We all know wagwan between them two.

But Jigga himself acknowledged Eminem's prowess in that track, didn't he?
He got owned and Nasty Nas described it as MURDER!!!!
If i go by Nas' vocabulary then Weezy, Kanye and Drake were massacred on "Forever"

Vuitton:

NAs has his own opinion Not worth much when you look back at his history with Jigga!

My points exactly.

~Sauron~:

But Jigga himself acknowledged Eminem's prowess in that track, didn't he?
He got owned and Nasty Nas described it as MURDER!!!!
If i go by Nas' vocabulary then Weezy, Kanye and Drake were massacred on "Forever"

Chineke Meee!!!!! Sharonu nah you dey talk like dis. U want make I call ofokasabe for you abi?

On a level though, Em' did not Murder anyone and i'll also take Nas's opinion with a pinch of salt .

chic2pimp:

On a level though, Em' did not Murder anyone and i'll also take Nas's opinion with a pinch of salt.

Ok. . . .Letz look at this way.

Did Eminem murder Jigga on "Renegade"?

And speaking of renegade which was on the critically acclaimed BLUEPRINT classic album, Eminem was the sole feature on it so it not unexpected for Em to perform a bit better.
Afterall 10 tracks all done solo by the hip hop legend Jay Z   no be yam and beans. Ask Nas and Eminem

~Sauron~:

Ok. . . .Letz look at this way.

Did Eminem murder Jigga on "Renegade"?

No! He performed better

Vuitton:

No! He performed better

Performing better = MURDER!!!!

~Sauron~:

Ok. . . .Letz look at this way.

Did Eminem murder Jigga on "Renegade"?

Em' definitely had the better bars but murder? Not too sure about that.

It seems every rap battle Em' wins is a murder to you.

Vuitton:

No! He performed better

10 stars for that .

~Sauron~:

Performing better = MURDER!!!!

Sharonuuu!!!! ahn ahn

chic2pimp:

Em' definitely had the better bars but murder? Not too sure about that.

It seems every rap battle Em' wins is a murder to you.

It's the hip-hop language. . . . .I dunno why y'all are getting things twisted.
Nas said it in regards to "Renegade" and The Game also said it on "We Ain't" that he just got murdered on a track with Eminem.

~Sauron~:

It's the hip-hop language. . . . .I dunno why y'all are getting things twisted.
Nas said it in regards to "Renegade" and The Game also said it on "We Ain't" that he just got murdered on a track with Eminem.

Abegii jare. Spitting 'Better Bars' and Getting 'Mudered' are two differnt things.

Benzino vs Eminem -  CERTIFIED MURDER

Nas vs Jigga - No MURDER(jus everyone jumping on the bandwagon)

chic2pimp:

Abegii jare. Spitting 'Better Bars' and Getting 'Mudered' are two differnt things.

Benzino vs Eminem -  CERTIFIED MURDER

Nas vs Jigga - No MURDER(jus everyone jumping on the bandwagon)

U are getting it wrong here.
The word MURDER is mostly used when 2 rappers feature on the same track.
Benzino/Eminem or Nas/Jigga are different scenarios entirely.

@Sauron
Have you dropped the offline??
Cus I can't find it.

And do you mind me downloading it now??

Hey hey hey,if I remember correctly Nas made that 'Eminem murdered you' statement on Ether.Now that's a diss track,diss tracks are intended to demean the dissed,in this case JayZ.Em didn't murder Hov,he had slightly better verses.
I've always thought murder was used when referring to rappers on the same track,when one of the rappers is clearly,undisputably better than every other rapper on the song,e.g JayZ/Kanye on 'Diamonds are forever rmx', Jay murdered it, Em/Busta on 'I'll hurt U',Em murdered it.

Some of you guys are actually making me laugh. Saying Eminem didn't murder Jigga. Kinda what anti-Semites wanted to do: rewrite history and say the Jews didn't suffer during World War II. Lmao[color=][/color][color=][/color]

The thing is, we're so used to some rappers (i.e eminem & jadakiss) killin other rappers on their own shit sometimes people have already come to the conclusion b4 they even hear the song. . .
However, i dont think that is the case here. Em spat the best lyrics on this track. Some people are saying "oh he was just fast", but the lyrics were dope too.
If u agree Em killed jay on renegade(jay actually killed Em on the 2nd verse), then u have to agree Em killed the competition on forever.

[Eminem Verse in Renegade]

Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
Usin his music to steer it, sharin his views and his merits
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
as a motherfuckin drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrased
And I got nothin to do but make you look stupid as parents
You fuckin do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!
(Ha ha!) And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
Cause here we go - he's {*Jigga joint Jigga-chk-Jigga*
And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the

Eminem's Verse in Forever

there they go, back in stadiums
as shady spits his flow
nuts they go, macadamia they go so balistic whoa,
we can make them look like boso’s,
he’s wondering if he should spit this slow,
Bleep no go for broke,
his cup just runneth over oh no
he aint had a buzz like this since the last time he overdosed
they’ve been waiting patiently for pinocchio to poke his nose
back into the game and they know
rap will never be the same as before
bashing in the brains of these hoes
and establishing a name as he goes
the passion and the flame is ignited
you can’t put it out once we light it
this shit is exactly what the Bleep i’m talking about when we riot
you dealin with a few true villians
whose staying inside of the booth truth spillin
and spit true feelings, till our tooth fillings come flying up out of our mouths
now rewind it
payback muthafucka for the way you got at me so how’s it taste?
when i slap the taste out your mouth with the bass so loud that it shakes the place
i’m hannibal lecter so just in case your thinking of saving face
you aint gonna have no face to save by the time im through with this place
so play some Drake….

It's not 'play some Drake', it's 'place, so Drake'
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Eldee,
thank u for being kind enuf to post the verse. Now, how the fukc can u tell me that was "just fast"? If eminem didnt murder em boys, them NO RAPPER HAS EVER BEEN MURDERED!

Em is a Animal!!
Is verse on Renegade is way better than Forever
On the real the other 3 ain't no competition anyway