delejames:

That isn't a good question,you should have asked how many good lecturers do they have in their schools?

Of course it's a valid question. Where are these "good lecturers" going to deliver their lectures? In your 15-people-in-a-room hostel? And BTW, I don't know about his/your school, but in OAU, there are a very good number of SOUND lecturers there.

what Sound Lecturers do OAU have? Maybe the OAU of Old.I'm a student there, and i can testify that their lectures are nothing to write home about,You can only understand if u're exceptionally Good.

I wonder why they are clamouring for pay rise.This whole Lecturers Strike is not making any sense to me.

like have said before,let just wait and see what happens after the AGREEMENT is signed.

davinson:

what Sound Lecturers do OAU have? Maybe the OAU of Old.I'm a student there, and i can testify that their lectures are nothing to write home about,You can only understand if u're exceptionally Good.

A good number of them are sound, not all, actually. Maybe the other not-so-good lecturers make up the bulk in your faculty/department?

davinson:

I wonder why they are clamouring for pay rise.This whole Lecturers Strike is not making any sense to me.

Perhaps, you wouldn't need to wonder if your dad was a lecturer.

Dats gonna be fun more ladies to shut down their system,

a liar

sodconfirm:

Dats gonna be fun more ladies to shut down their system,

this is hilarious!!!!

I understand Yar Adua is about to personally sort ASUU guys out; you guys may be back in school 1st week in OCTOBER.

i tire oh, u said it will be in d news and paper soon, where u hear am from?,


SOLA ATERE
NTA NEWS

Noble Onye:

i tire oh, u said it will be in d news and paper soon, where u hear am from?,


SOLA ATERE
NTA NEWS

LMAO,

The FG of Nigeria is a complete fraud.

I wonder who they are deceiving,they say education is one of their seven point agenda,yet see where education is, comatose!

It was very easy for Yaradua to okay the pumping in of 420billion into private banks that didnt ask him for money(without appropriation),yet our lecturers salaries have been stopped, the youth are roaming the streets,not knowing what to do next, and the devil has been using some of them to do his dirty jobs because they are idle;and the president is not bothered about it(Moreso none of his children are in any of these schools);Yaradua and his government certainly do not mean well for this nation; yet he wants a second term.

The salaries of our lecturers who have studied up to the level of becoming professors can only tell you that value is not placed on education in this country;in the midst of all these, what can we say?

We pray that God will talk to Yaradua, so that the same way he went and pumped 420billion without being asked to do so in the banks, he will see the urgency to deal with education,once & for all;we are tired of the misplaced prorities of this government.

It is well with Nigeria.

~hiss~ Nice lecture there mr. Seeker. I hope you fulfill your destiny by killing the 'darken rhal' and not by killing 'our dreams'. There's an edo parable that says "If a child touches shit, you'll wash it not cut off the hand". We've been cut off not wash up! ASUU aren't fighting for students, they're fighting for themselves and by so doing causing more damage to the students. I understand if your dad is a lecturer or so, but that doesn't mean you have to back them. Cos both ASUU AND FG are Tortoise and Fox respectively and they are trying to con us. And "seeker" don't say things as if you are the all knowing in the matter, cos you are also believing what you want to believe. And you're just a mere biased confused mortal like everybody else. DROP THE ACT! Assu is fighting for themselves, fg is fighting for themselves, and don't expect the students to act otherwise And i used small letters because i'm pick of turning on my cap-lock 4 stupid organisations. Bite me

you never can tell.

BREAKING NEWS - the agreement to be signed on monday in Abuja by the president himself.

we need divine intervention and strong revolution in this country.

Seeker, i've read through your previous annoying posts and i saw that your 'point' were as small as DOT. Because like I said, you sounded as biased and hypocritical as the con artistic lecturers i see yaping all over the media. This is Nigeria and We All know every organization are filled with empty promises, so why think ASUU will act differently? It even sounds better to say that they are fighting for salary increasement cos if they claim/lie that they want to help students and all other crap you've been saying, they'll be ridiculed cos they won't do shit!!! So seeker, before you talk like you know everything, you first have to your know your own COUNTRY and your cunning Country Men. Hope you'll be smart enough to register this in your brain? And don't ever blame the STUDENTS, cos we are fighting for ourselves. I see you are on longer a student :-)

@mr i know it all(Theseeker)

Tell us; What do you understand by "University autonomy bill"?

@ the seeker
Yes you have made very important points and I completely agree with you. This has compelled me to chip in my own bid: to bare my mind.

I have kids and I don’t want them going through what I am going through in the pursuit of education. Well said: education is way more than reading books and passing exams, that is just a part of what education is all about, but that’s a very very important aspect.
That is why many students go the extra mile which include the use of chips and even paying lecturers just to obtain a ‘pass’ grade and b4 u know it they are working in a bank or some other high top organization.

Now I am stating this as a matter of fact, to give readers a bird’s eye view and to buttress my points further. But I wont really mention names.
I graduated with a first class (and all the plenty fine fine prizes wey dey attached to such never still reach me till today and truly me I no get the strength to fight for am. Ma point: cheap talk. and sometimes it kills) and finished masters as the best student in MATHEMATICS in my set. I love lecturing (and I hate bank jobs) and I have lectured in one polytechnic in the north, there I was subjected to nothing but; as I love to put it, ‘academic torture’. It would have been better if I had worked for free!
Now, guess what!? I am still looking for a job from where I graduated from and from the university where I completed my masters, I still have to stand in line, meeting those ‘wey sabi person’, if you understand the drift, in order to get a lecturing job! I have also written to other universities but the strike has put everything on hold though I am particular bout the schools I finished from. At least I know that the latter is lacking in mathematics lecturers. But instead of them to gree give me job on merit dem go prefer to give ‘their person’, even if ‘their person’ no know wetin e suppose do for class.

It is so sad, over seas some one like me would have lecturing jobs and scholarships to choose from, as it is evident from 2 guys I know who also graduated with first class. They were given scholarships immediately and lecturing jobs. You might say my case is an exclusive one, but I doubt that much. There are, I’m sure, other Nigerians that are going thru same or similar situations. But I still love my country, I don’t wanna go out even though I have means of jiving out. I want to be a part of the change that we all need. Call it love wan tin tin but that’s just how I feel.

That aside, I agree with you that we have good intelligent lecturers, but I have to say that I doubt if they make up to 1/3 of the teacher population in Nigeria. WHY should I make such comment?:
1. corruption has become the bedrock of our society and the academic sector is not left out. Many good teachers have succumbed to corruption and they sell out grades. You either pay in cash or kind. And as we all know, many students don’t have a problem with that.
2. because students are no longer interested in reading or exercising their brains, you find out that we can hardly apply what is taught in class: it’s they exercises the teacher gives you in class or in handouts, that is exactly the way it will come out in exams. So all you need do is cram and cram and cram to pass. Little wonder why many students on this forum can’t analyze issues
3. can any lasting, reliable ‘material’ come out of a ‘cram to pass mentality?’ when a course that’s supposed to expose the student to a wide variety of academic material and the internet only ends up compressing him/her into a 15 to 30 page document where everything is paraphrased.
4. and these are the same students that will end up as teachers in a few years to come.
5. you will find a lecturer teaching you exactly what he learnt 15 years ago: no addition, no subtraction. When they do not research or find others ways of solving a problem, it becomes a problem. Now, I ask, do you need research grant to enable you find new ways of teaching a particular topic.
6. becuz of the condition of service, many of our good teachers are trooping out in droves to other countries in search of greener pastures.
7. I know that the teacher cannot teach you everything, infact it’s only a small percentage of knowledge you can obtain from a teacher, but let lecturers start teaching in a way that push the students into exercising their own brains. It may be difficult at first with this generation of ‘I don’t care’ students who seek only to have fun, but the future will be filled with academic riches and merit will be merit.

The other day I heard that only about 30% or less passed the recent WAEC. What a mess! But you would still find a good number of those from the remaining failed 70% in one of our universities. What will you be teaching such kinda students? how will they understand? But they will still pass. Na Magic? I remember one incident when I was asked to set exams, the exam officer and some other lecturers were taken aback by my questions. The alarm: ‘this is too difficult for the students, the will not pass it o! Better set the ones that they will pass so that you will be seen as a teacher whose gat the stuff.’ But is that how it should be?

That is why I am of the opinion that apart from the ASUU and FG thug of war, there should be strike within the university system itself. What good will it be, if we have say, a fortified science lab with all the necessary equipments and a student who could not make even one credit in his/her papers.

Now back to ASUU: the first issue on ground. FG sign the agreement.
But the second issue which worries ma mind more than the first is: ‘Will the fund, when released, land for ground?’ as some of my friends will say.
Takes me back to the corruption problem:
I do not know if there are checks put in place by ASUU to monitor such funds when they become available abi they are waiting to get to the bridge before the cross it (typical 9ja mentality). I wont be surprised if the money is sucked up by say maybe the vice chancellor or some other unknown money suction pumps straight into the bank accounts of some pen robbers leaving the students and the system worse than before.

It is indeed so sad! OUR UNIVERSITY SYSTEM. To me, FG is like the outer lining but the inner lining is so rotten, I dare say and it aches ma heart.

@Mr i know it all(Theseeker)

I so much understand what ASUU is fighting for,i understand what the University autonomy bill is all about.But what i refuse to understand is the fact that YOU(Theseeker) is only interested in the FG signing the agreement.But then,what happens after the agreement is signed? would the signed agreement stop the lecturers who takes bribe from student,or those lecturers who are not willing to lecture students for exploitation purposes?.You had better sit down,and think about that.

You can't just come online and say Nonscence about Nigerian students who are viewing things in another angle.

I strongly support ASUU. even though i am affected i believe i am paying the price for the future generation. In 2007 there was a 3month strike of this same issue. Will will ASUU not want to continue the strike, since this particular issue has been going on since 2001. before the nigerian tunisia match our government organized a fund raising dinner while our school system is not working. for those people arguing can someone tell me one section under this new government that is functioning?

The lame seeker! I tot you were intelligent enough to understand what I was talking about. I guess I was wrong. Cos you are just a stupid arrogant cow that is hell bent on sharing his one sided view without taking other people's point into consideration. And why are you using abusive words with me?I Tot this was an educational forum?! But if you want to use abusive words with me, that's a JOKER CARD you're playing! Cos i fit break your stupid head with coke bottle. I just wanted you to know that ASUU is not that innocent and they also have a selfish motive behind this strike. But you reacted as if they are sooo innocent and that your last name is ASUU.You're just saying dumb shit that students don't know anything about the strike and act as if you are the all knowing 'middle man' between ASUU and fg. Keep on acting like an 'over-sabi' smart ass and see if you won't get shot like BROOKLYN's JESUS {notorious big},

donimali:

The lame seeker! I tot you were intelligent enough to understand what I was talking about. I guess I was wrong. Cos you are just a stupid arrogant cow that is hell bent on sharing his one sided view without taking other people's point into consideration. And why are you using abusive words with me?I Tot this was an educational forum?! But if you want to use abusive words with me, that's a JOKER CARD you're playing! Cos i fit break your stupid head with coke bottle. I just wanted you to know that ASUU is not that innocent and they also have a selfish motive behind this strike. But you reacted as if they are sooo innocent and that your last name is ASUU.You're just saying dumb shit that students don't know anything about the strike and act as if you are the all knowing 'middle man' between ASUU and fg. Keep on acting like an 'over-sabi' smart ass and see if you won't get shot like BROOKLYN's JESUS {notorious big},

Yeah, a true student! But of where? Ajegunle Polytechnic? Hahahahaa!! Don't say more, you've said enough. Agbero!

Black_Revo, I'm glad that there are still other sensible students in this Nigeria. Cos i see things from a different angle doesn't mean we have to be enemies. I understand what you and other ASUU activists have been saying, but i just want them to bear in mind that they're not all that innocent and selfless as they are sounding. I also want the educational sector of this country to turn out to be one of the best and for the strike to be eliminated permanently. But that said, i'm still with the angry students because if no agreement is reached, we'll be the one to suffer it, like the parable between the two elephants and the grass. And as for the seeker, open your eyes and your brain and you'll see i'm a better student that you can ever be. I gave you just a few opinion of mine, and your seek(er)/sick brain couldn't digest it. WHAT A PITY?! And you think i'm an agbero? Wow! I guess there's so much you just don't get from being an ASUU SMART ASS. You might drown in your own over hyped knowledge and never grow.

The seeker, do you think a sane person can make sense to a mad person? Of course not! The only reason why you don't seem to get any point from what i'm saying is, either your ego is making you fail to bring yourself to admit what i'm saying, because we share different views, or you're just a lame insane arrogant man. Well, I hope for your sake its the former. I believe you might have heard this "I AIN'T A KILLER, BUT DON'T PUSH ME". So, if i tell you "i fit break your head with coke bottle" its because you insulted me and i didn't take kindly to that. There're lots of ways of 'preaching' your points without insulting some1, just like Black_Revo did. But if you go for the abusive option with me, that's gon' be your worst mistake. I honestly hate it when men condemn other men's opinion. And that's what you've been doing to other posters. But you choose the wrong one when you hit at me. For your degree you are saying you have. Its very easy for me to come up with one and not back it up. You are not even wise.