Don't you know who a muslim mean ? One who submit to Almighty God and not the god who the jews killed. I am an african does that stop me from being a muslim except if am an arab ? Many arab will go to hell so whats ur problem, before the message of God reach arabia they used to be pagan, it was the Israelite they were been supported with messengers from time to time but look at them today, scanty compare to the muslim

Abuzola:

Don't you know who a muslim mean ? One who submit to Almighty God and not the god who the jews killed. I am an african does that stop me from being a muslim except if am an arab ? Many arab will go to hell so whats your problem, before the message of God reach arabia they used to be pagan, it was the Israelite they were been supported with messengers from time to time but look at them today, scanty compare to the muslim

Curses fell upon the Israelites for disobeying GOD.

@3Spade3: Your above post has good meaning if only you apply to everyone; Curse of God fell and fall on those who disobeyed and disobey God! So do the Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc or Muslims obey God, the One TRUE God? Not all groups, except One. So the Christians will say the Jews dont obey, the reason they will claim that Jesus was sent.

Do the Christians obey? This is my question. My argument will centre around Jesus commandment as the Messenger of God to the Israelites. Jesus said that he came not to abolish the laws and the prophets before him. He came to fulfill themas to reestablish them with the religious and daily lives of the Israelites, so he warned that no one should abolish or suggest even the abolishment of the laws and the prophets, not even a small detail of it, as small as a jot. Whosoever does the or suggest the abolishment will be the least in the Kingdom of heaven; definitely lower than all the other levels in the Kingdom of Heaven, so I will suggest that the least here means "Hell Fire" unless somebody can point me to something different, and the argument have to be very sound!

So Christians now have abolished the Laws and the Prophets, against the statement of Jesus the earthly master that they claim for themselves, so is the Christian CURSE because they disobey God? Yes they do because they dispbeyed God's elect, Jesus.


And if I look at it from the Christians point of view, saying that Jesus is god, then will the Christians be less blameless compared to the Jews in the cursed conditions because of disobedience to God? No it should be of greater consequence;

The Jews did not see their God, yet their disobedience make them cursed.

The Christians see their god walking the streets among them and died in from of them saying it is finished, yet they disobeyed him! They deserve the same level of curse as the Jews, at least, I think it should be the highest, if yo ask me.

So Christians now have abolished the Laws and the Prophets, against the statement of Jesus the earthly master that they claim for themselves, so is the Christian CURSE because they disobey God? Yes they do because they dispbeyed God's elect, Jesus.

Between muslims and Christians, who knows Jesus the most? whose book records the most details about Jesus's life and ministry? stop deliding yourselves, guys.

The first and last miracle exist in the the Quran and missing in the Bible

Which miracle? the falsified miracles? where was mohammed when Jesus was performing His miracles?

@nezan, you are a big man so don't talk like a kid, what you said is simply childishly. Every prophet ve his own miracle. All the miracle jesus performed were as well performed by past Prophets from Elijah to moses, so whats the big deal

The big deal is you can never claim that the koran records explicitly, the miracles performed by Jesus. How many chapters are even allocated to discussing him?

You think so ? Other prophet did what jesus did so it doesn't make a difference, but Quran record a mysterious and vital miracle that others did not do. The talking of jesus as a baby and the changing of judas face to jesus and then jesus ascending, wow what a great miracle

Who witnessed your so-called fake miracles?

Thousand dude

Like who and who? mention names and back up with reliable sources.

moh'd saw it happen 

bunch of liars, nobody to back up their stupid clams.

Abubakar, khdijah, the syrian king, Abu jahl and the crowd.

You mean those people you mentioned heared Jesus speak as a child? was Jesus taken to syria at the time of his birth? where was the record that those people existed during the time of Jesus as no arab was mentioned to witness Jesus' birth?

Don't be crazy , i am talking of splitting the moon, on jesus speaking as a baby you can go and ask his mother , mary and the yahudu of that era

Abuzola's post:

You think so ? Other prophet did what jesus did so it doesn't make a difference, but Quran record a mysterious and vital miracle that others did not do. The talking of jesus as a baby and the changing of judas face to jesus and then jesus ascending, wow what a great miracle

My post:

Who witnessed your so-called fake miracles?

Abuzola's post

Abubakar, khdijah, the syrian king, Abu jahl and the crowd.

My post:

You mean those people you mentioned heared Jesus speak as a child? was Jesus taken to syria at the time of his birth? where was the record that those people existed during the time of Jesus as no arab was mentioned to witness Jesus' birth?

Abuzola's post:

Don't be crazy , i am talking of splitting the moon, on jesus speaking as a baby you can go and ask his mother , mary and the yahudu of that era

See how deluded them slaves of allah are?

What a daft, Did Abubakar exist during jesus time ? Not to talk of witnessing. The fools will always be led astray, and only the believers will understand, therefore you are thummun, bukmtn, humyun

see how deluded the boy is

You dislike it ? Hahaha you are thummun, bukmun, humyum. Happy translation search

How can I mind a deluded slave?

@Nezan; « #71 on: September 15, 2009, 01:09 PM »

The big deal is you can never claim that the koran records explicitly, the miracles performed by Jesus. How many chapters are even allocated to discussing him?

His (AS) essence was discussed and its more than what you have in the Bible, afterall you did not have his miracle of defense of his mother or do you? And it was not as if he fought Pharaoh or somebody tyrannical and powerful like that and he did not lead a multitude of people, like Moses who led the whole of sraelites away from Egypt, fording through the sea without loosing a single soul, and leading them through the wilderness, and the food; manna from heaven, fighting nations and tribes along the way, and receiving the commandments which Jesus said that must never be abrogated, ever, and you guys did not see a verse you did not abrogate in it, the reason the story of Jesus is shorter than that of Moses, a leader in the essence of of the word, except that you guys love to exagerate and below is a good exegese on it:

While you give for sake of full pages but emptiness of messages, you step by step even mundane and useless an account of 33 years or at least the 3 years of what you call the ministry of the "FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY", Jesus, but wimply short cahnged what Moses did, except the major events and you are even accurate in your record!

Who witnessed the miracle of his defence of his mother? mention names and evidences. Do you think the fake things mohammed wrote in the koran are worth believing?, BTW, who are we to believe, people who walked with him or some deluded fake prophet?

@poster :

The moon crescent symbol is a symbol of witchcraft.

You are the wizard, fool

@topic

- Cus they are worshipping the black stone . . .

- Cus they did not know that the Earth is spherical hence saying people should face the East is confusing and contradictory depending on if you are on the right or left of the Mecca or is it greewich line sef . . .

- Which direction is someone in India facing . . . 

focused 123, if Allah says face the Qibla (directional Object) that is dear to your heart, and it is Masjid Haram where the Kaaba is the symbol of it, will you not quit worshipping three gods and join me in true worship of your Creator? My proof is that Kaaba, when you can see it, regardless of whatever direction you are of it, you will have no choice but to face it! This simply means that if two people are on opposite sides of this central object called kaaba, the face it, facing each other with the kaaba as the Qibla between them.

focused123. do you have a thing of order, unifying thing like that in your religion?

Abuzola 1:

You are the wizard, fool

You are the greatest blood thirsty wizard. You are blood thirsty and hence you formed that stupid Boko Haram because you want to drink human blood.

Beast.

olabowale:

focused 123, if Allah says face the Qibla (directional Object) that is dear to your heart, and it is Masjid Haram where the Kaaba is the symbol of it, will you not quit worshipping three gods and join me in true worship of your Creator? My proof is that Kaaba, when you can see it, regardless of whatever direction you are of it, you will have no choice but to face it! This simply means that if two people are on opposite sides of this central object called kaaba, the face it, facing each other with the kaaba as the Qibla between them.

focused123. do you have a thing of order, unifying thing like that in your religion?

Olabowale, you said your allah (Saudi black stone) is all knowing. Is he not capable of hearing prayers from all directions. Why a particular direction ?

Islam is a joke to me because all these symbols are nothing but pure witchcraft.

You re really mad

Abuzola : Why do you always have 'No Subject' on all your posts?'

All others: Lets stick to the issues & not be overtly insultive , . . .