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Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 11:52pm On Dec 09, 2009
meaning
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by theseeker2: 9:26am On Dec 10, 2009
@No2Atheism, do you think you just made any sense
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by IbrahimB: 10:28am On Dec 14, 2009
Qur'an 41:37

And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon.
Prostrate yourselves not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate yourselves to Allah Who created them,
if you worship Him.


Other than its use in marking the beginning of the Yearly Muslim fast, the crescent has no other significance in
Islam. It is merely an architectural embellishment found on some (and not all) mosques. The star-crescent "logo" was adopted by the
Ottomans after the Turks conquered Constantinople - it did not even start off as a religious symbol but as a state symbol.

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/symbols.htm
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by hymen(f): 12:42pm On Dec 27, 2009
IbrahimB:

Other than its use in marking the beginning of the Yearly Muslim fast, the crescent has no other significance in
Islam. It is merely an architectural embellishment found on some (and not all) mosques. The star-crescent "logo" was adopted by the
Ottomans after the Turks conquered Constantinople - it did not even start off as a religious symbol but as a state symbol.
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/symbols.htm
Probably the most reasonable explanation so far. . . . . . , 

Abuzola 1:

@hymen: the facing of the ka'abah serves as muslim unity towards one goal
Your goal should be heaven,not a physical object. . . you can NEVER have the ISLAMIC CALIPHATE as you had it during the prophets time. . .now you have Shia,Sunni,Ahmadi,Islamia etc. . . .so the one-nation fighting Islamic state is no more & CAN NEVER come back. So look up to heaven,or else this will be seen as just another form of idolatory,which Islam purportedly abhors(haram)
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Horus(m): 3:57pm On Dec 27, 2009
Does Allah not know that the moon does not conceal the sun? (Koran 36:40)
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by IbrahimB: 8:50pm On Dec 27, 2009
@Horus

I think it's better if you start a different thread on this topic; it will be easier replying that way. Thanks.
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by theseeker2: 9:20pm On Dec 27, 2009
Horus:

Does Allah not know that the moon does not conceal the sun? (Koran 36:40)

Whenever you guys want to do your fraud. you simple mention verses without quoting them. I have quoted the verse for you . Pls advance your arguement if you are truthful.
"It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the night outstrip the day, each just swims along in its own orbit." (36:40 Ali translation)
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Halliema(f): 10:42am On Jan 03, 2010
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Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by IbrahimB: 3:20pm On Jan 03, 2010
@Halliema

It's not by force to post angry
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by AbuZola3(m): 4:43pm On Jan 03, 2010
Lol, you dey vex o
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by TrueSeeker(m): 10:43pm On Jan 03, 2010
Sun is only the nearest star.
And remember evolution is not a science, it is a theory,. which has not being prove conclusively or convincely.
In science there is,experiment, observation, conclusion.
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by theseeker2: 8:27am On Jan 04, 2010
what bearing has your post to the point of this thread or the line of discussion?
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by ttruth(m): 2:08pm On Feb 04, 2010
@post :

The CRESCENT Moon represented One of the DAUGHTERS of Allah called Al LAT!

The STAR represented the second DAUGHTER of Allah calleed Al Uzza (the planet Venus)!

Hence although Muhammadans FALSELY CLAIM pure Monotheism, the PAGAN daughters of Allah are on top of every mosque!
They of course for obvious reasons vehemently DENY all these revelations by finding 1001 excuses!
Allah's DAUGHTERS are in Muhammadan Islam even 1400 years later!
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jun 20, 2010
The crescent is now often used to symbolize the Islamic faith. However, I learnt from studies (Being a seeker, I study. I’m not just another run-of-the-mill simpletons who waits on nairaland to be feed some islamophobic half-truth crap by the likes of Frosbel, Jesus., Toba, Davidylan etc. Get it!) that the crescent was not a symbol used for Islam by Muhammad, (as the Islamic religion claims it forbids all images, as opposed to the way that the cross symbolizes Christianity, the menorah was a commonly-occurring symbol of Judaism, etc.).

Not to argue, but, why is it such a prominent Islamic symbol. why on the tops of mosques everywhere in the world? I would have thought that at some time some Muslim would have rejected the symbol. I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand it.

Frankly bro, I have not heard or caught wind of the slightest concern over this among Muslims to change it.
Is it just blindly accepted by Muslims of today as their symbol of faith or what, ?
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jun 20, 2010
auwal87 (m):
Re: Why Is The Crescent Used A Symbol Of Islam/mosque « #5 on: May 18, 2010, 11:44 AM »

Source

The early Muslim community did not really have a symbol. During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), Islamic armies and caravans flew simple solid-colored flags (generally black, green, or white) for identification purposes. In later generations, the Muslim leaders continued to use a simple black, white, or green flag with no markings, writing, or symbolism on it.

It wasn't until the Ottoman Empire that the crescent moon and star became affiliated with the Muslim world. When the Turks conquered Constantinople (Istanbul) in 1453, they adopted the city's existing flag and symbol. Legend holds that the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Osman, had a dream in which the crescent moon stretched from one end of the earth to the other. Taking this as a good omen, he chose to keep the crescent and make it the symbol of his dynasty. There is speculation that the five points on the star represent the five pillars of Islam, but this is pure conjecture. The five points were not standard on the Ottoman flags, and as you will see on the following page, it is still not standard on flags used in the Muslim world today.

For hundreds of years, the Ottoman Empire ruled over the Muslim world. After centuries of battle with Christian Europe, it is understandable how the symbols of this empire became linked in people's minds with the faith of Islam as a whole.

Based on this history, many Muslims reject using the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam. The faith of Islam has historically had no symbol, and many refuse to accept what is essentially an ancient pagan icon. It is certainly not in uniform use among Muslims.

chakula (m):
Re: Why Is The Crescent Used A Symbol Of Islam/mosque « #6 on: May 18, 2010, 02:05 PM »
The moon and star is sometimes considered a symbol of Islam because it was a symbol of the Turkish dynasty that controlled much of the Islamic world for several centuries.

No created object is a symbol of Islam. Prophet Muhammad's (God bless him and grant him peace) flag was a plain green rectangle.
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 8:31pm On Jun 20, 2010
@Muslims,

From the response can I infer that the Crescent & star symbol used in Islam/mosques is:

-essentially a pagan icon. which has somehow been accepted.

-has no place in the religion of the Muslims.

Then how does this reality compare with the Islamic creed on innovation and pagan influence?


Can Muslims kindly explain with with evidence.
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 8:34pm On Jun 20, 2010
teeyad: Why Is The Crescent Used A Symbol Of Islam/mosque
« #9 on: June 14, 2010, 01:10 AM »

@AIRDIG>
why do countries have flags, why do companies have badges, why do some tribes have tribal marks, can i guess, IDENTITY, for adminstrative purposes, have u ever asked why Saudi Arabia has a flag with the swords and the Kalimatu Shahadah on it(would we call that an innovation worthy of retribution) , for God's sake "identity"
you have just been told how the symbol came about these guys were building an empire with muslim majority why wont they have a badge for administrative purposes, why are u looking for talk where there is none, its just like saying hey Nigeria why do you have the coat of arms.

your arguement will be meaningful if only u can link the crescent and star with ancient paganism, i won't mind seeing the facts,

please stop making conjectures i can see you are already making up your opinion.

find out more about islam and i pray your heart appreciates God in his Oneness.

thanks

peace to you
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jun 20, 2010
nopuqeater: Re: Why Is The Crescent Used A Symbol Of Islam/mosque
« #11 on: June 17, 2010, 01:01 PM »


@Airbag: « #7 on: May 21, 2010, 11:05 PM »

@Muslims,

From the response can I infer that the Crescent & star symbol used in Islam/mosques is:

-essentially a pagan icon. which has somehow been accepted.
You can infer anything you want. But the reality is in Quran which Sunnah and Hadith explain. I can aso now infer that cross is purely a paganic symbolism, or hatred for Jesus since you love what he died on so much. I am using your idea of belief, though I disagree with the association of star and crescent to Islam, and I do not believe that Jesus died on the cross.

-has no place in the religion of the Muslims.
I am going to concur with you, since it is not found in any part of the Quran and any act of the prophet (AS), or his companions (RA) after him, or the next generation or the next after that (ra).


Then how does this reality compare with the Islamic creed on innovation and pagan influence?
When Islam present a symbol, it was always a white clothing. No instriptions. No nothing (Anything). Saudi Arabia, though am not personally enthused with them, but they do not have star and crescent in their flag. PAkistan which is a country formed solely on religion is not carrying star and crescent.


Can Muslims kindly explain with with evidence.

With all the above, it is very clear that you can simply say that flag may not be wrong for each society or movement, but the flag of Islam is simple white cloth. Hence anything other than pure white cloth is an innovation, and to me it is unaccepted for islam, but may be allowable for individual society. I have seen many masajid that does not have miniret. I have seen many which its miniret does not carrry star and crescent, or anything. Masjid is not less a masjid if it does not carry them, or even a miniret, or even designed initially purposely for the later usage. Masjid is a simple room designated for three things; salah, reading of Quran, remebering of Allah. This is from hadith addressing the man who urinated in the masjid.

incidentally, turkey which her kalifate brought star and crescent, was the last place we had kalifate, her regime brought hordes of Jews to Palestine, beginning the disaster of today in Palestine.
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 12:47am On Jul 20, 2010
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Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jul 20, 2010
wa lekum salam brother
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by 3ogla: 6:34pm On Feb 22, 2011
I just happened to get to this forum through Google, even though my reply is late, I will be delighted to collaborate.

Symbolism in General is a satanic act. I am Muslim and I myself do not agree with the crescent moon over mosques, symbolism in Islam is forbidden.

Islam: The Crescent moon was added in a very late era of Islam, Islam has been around since 1400 Years and only for the past 100 years the crescent moon appeared in Muslim societies from the Ottoman Empire, Legend says that Osman the founder of the Ottoman empire had a dream of a crescent moon stretching in the sky from the far east to the west so he added it to their flag. Now I do not agree with that to be enough reason to add the moon.

The moon and the sun are one of the oldest forms of worship before the existence of all 3 religions. The geographic location where the Ottoman Empire existed was occupied by the Greeks, they worshiped many forms of different Gods including a Moon God. The Ottoman Empire after occupying the area kept the existing ancient Greek symbol "One of their Symbols" which is the moon on their new flag to represent and identify the location they took over.

Islam has been around since 1400 Years, you can be an optimist and look at that it didn't exist for the previous 1300 years and only for the last 100 years.

Christianity: "The cross is a pagan symbol that was adored in Egypt thousands of years before Jesus was born. The Roman Catholic Church adopted the cross symbol at least 600 years after Jesus was supposedly crucified. Even the early Christians of North Africa rejected the wooden cross after Tertullian condemned it.   "  [Source:www.answering-christianity.com]

Notice the Attached picture, "Orpheus crucified" it has the crescent moon, the stars and the cross engraved, all these are pagan types of worship that are being added to our heavenly religions to corrupt them over time and destroy history.

[Source: http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm]

Judaism: The Star of David is not and was never a symbol of Judaism, Many Rabbis around the world disagree with it but they get beat up and thrown in Jail by Zionist thugs who work for "Rothschild" who stole the Star of David and used it as a symbol for the state of Israel which became a common mistake that it is the symbol for Judaism. Note that Zionist does not mean Jew and does not mean Israel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haybEo-Tx4

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The Vatican: Please read the attached link to know what the Vatican actually is
http://www.markbeast.org/mark-beast-paganism.html

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Rothschild Zionism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNIcAcrvi2M&feature=watch_response_rev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWtdU6U1C7Q&feature=watch_response

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Symbols have been secretly and slowly added to all religions, no religion should have a symbol because it creates an identity which forms Ego that makes people offensive against other. Eventually All heavenly religions worship the same one God so why would he need many symbols? What is going on is bigger than we all think, it is a plan to corrupt all religions and set us all against each other so the ruling Elite "Illuminati" can act as saviors and introduce a new world wide religion which will be fully dedicated to satanic worship.

Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by 3ogla: 7:06pm On Feb 22, 2011
@t.truth

There is a difference between someone who wants an answer, or someone who just wants to ignorantly point fingers at Islam with false info.

Both names of the daughters you have mentioned existed before Islam, they were statues inside Kaaba that got destroyed by Muslims when Islam was found.

In Islam it says that these both names you have mentioned are Pagan types of worship, so how can they be daughters of the same God (Allah) who created the Muslim belief?

Peace
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by soyaq: 1:10pm On Aug 21, 2013
Q2 vs 189 answer 4 d cresent moon ‎ ‎يسألونك عن الأهلة قل هي مواقيت للناس والحج وليس البر بأن تأتو البيوت من ظهورها ولاكن البر من اتقئ وأتو البيوت من أبوابها
Re: Why Does The Crescent Moon Symbol Sit On Top Of Mosques? by dadex1: 5:46pm On Aug 29, 2013
islamic religion originates from who?

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