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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Emusan(m): 4:56pm On Jul 08, 2016
Rilwon:

But what makes your own Jesus original and that of Muslims fake?
Light and darkness don't have anything in common
Are you just saying this because your Bible said so?
Just as you said earlier because your Quran said so!
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Emusan(m): 4:57pm On Jul 08, 2016
Rilwon:

And the god of the Bible is?
Is that Only True God of the creation!
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by bapullow: 4:58pm On Jul 08, 2016
thorpido:
When you stand before God on judgement day,Bishop Oyedepo won't stand with you or him with you on that day.
Everyone who doesn't accept Jesus as Lord will not be on the side where Jesus is on that day.

'Everyone who has heard the Father and learned of Him comes to Me(Jesus)'..- John 6:45


Islam accept Jesus, respect, and follow Jesus (peace be upon him) in fact according teaching of prophet u can't just called Jesus without adding peace be upon him when u do that u are not good muslim and even Jesus pbuh preach noting but Islam

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by tomzman: 4:58pm On Jul 08, 2016
tafabaloo:
Freewill....power to choose who to worship is still yours.

Your choice! Your everlasting destiny!!

I hv observed over time that men are yet to understand the mystery surrounding the story of Jesus Christ.

Going to church or observing some dictates of the Bible doesn't make one a Christian .

Except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God, this is not about answering names found among Christians or to say in the Bible , neither is it about being a Pastor .

The question is," have you experienced who they call Jesus of Nazareth " ?

Unfortunately, the subject in spite of being so close to a Pastor, he was still involved in uncharitable behaviours, which goes to show that he was never a Christian.

Fortunately for me I have tasted the two......and I can tell you that it's great to serve the Man of Galilee, a Man of war, who died and rose the third day and ascended to the high heavens and wld come back in same manner .

Every book (scripture) spoke about Him........you can't experience Him and remain the same. " I am the way, the Life ....no man comes to the father except by me"

You have said it all. God bless you for this piece.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 4:59pm On Jul 08, 2016
aliscomonaj:
I think you need to read you bible very and conclude yourself
1. “It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'” FIRST PILLAR OF ISLAM
2. “Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.” – James 4:10

Some Christians may find the Muslim method of prayer odd…but if they were to pray as described in the Bible then they would find themselves praying much like Muslims…for example:

ABLUTION:

“Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped…”
(2 Samuel 12:20)

“So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.”
(Exodus 30:21)

“And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet…”
(Exodus 40:31)

RAISING OF THE HANDS:

“Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name.” (Psalms 63:4)

ALLAHU AKBAR:

“Great is the LORD, and most worthy of praise…”
(Psalms 48:1)

PROSTRATION:

“And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him…”
(Genesis 17:3)

“…and they (Moses and Aaron) fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.”
(Numbers 20:6)

“And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.”
(Joshua 7:6)

“…they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD…”
(2 Chronicles 7:3)

“…and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.”
(Nehemiah 8:6)

“And he (Jesus) went a little farther and fell on his face, and prayed…”
(Matthew 26:39)

“And when the disciples heard it,they fell on their faces…”
(Matthew 17:6)

“…and he (Elijah) cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees…”
(1 Kings 18:42)

“…and (all the angels) fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God…”
(Revelations 7:11)

“O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.”
(Psalms 95:6)

“…all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.”
(Psalms 22:29)

“…And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.”
(Judges 13:20)

“And when all the people saw it,they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, He is the God; the LORD, He is the God.”
(1 Kings 18:39)

“I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD!”
(Ezekiel 9:cool

“David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times…”
(1 Samuel 20:41)

“And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship…”
(Joshua 5:14)

“And it came to pass, that, when Abraham’s servant heard their words, he worshipped the LORD, bowing himself to the earth…” (Genesis 24:52)
THAT IS THE SECOND PILLAR OF ISLAM IN THE BIBLE

Acts 20:35 ESV / 411 helpful votes

In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Hebrews 13:16 ESV / 359 helpful votes

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
Matthew 6:1-4 ESV / 298 helpful votes

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Luke 21:1-4 ESV / 167 helpful votes
Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.
THIS IS THE THIRD PILLAR OF ISLAM

Joel 2:12 ESV / 537 helpful votes

“Yet even now,” declares the Lord, “return to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning;
Psalm 69:10 ESV / 472 helpful votes

When I wept and humbled my soul with fasting, it became my reproach.
Matthew 6:18 ESV / 457 helpful votes

That your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Daniel 10:3 ESV / 421 helpful votes

I ate no delicacies, no meat or wine entered my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, for the full three weeks.
Acts 14:23 ESV / 339 helpful votes

And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
Matthew 4:4 ESV / 319 helpful votes
But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
FOURTH PILLAR OF ISLAM

Makkah and Hajj in the Bible

Psalm 84 1-6
How lovely is your dwelling place, O Lord Almighty!
My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.
Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young— a place near your altar,
O Lord Almighty, my King and my God.
Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you. Selah
Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on "pilgrimage."
As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.

Let See What we have here.
Place is a Valley, in this Valley there is a blessed Well
To this Valley pilgrims make their journey and there is a Sacred House of Worship in this Valley of Baka, this Place of worship where the sacred house is at there are COURT YARDS, There are alters
and Sparows and Swallows Lodge at this location and bare their young.

There is no place in Palestine that fits this description the only place that fits this description is BACA which all the Muslims know

"The most important shrine established for the people is the one in Baca; a blessed beacon for all the people. In it are clear signs: the station of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall be granted safe passage. The people owe it to GOD that they shall observe Hajj (Pilgrimage) to this shrine, when they can afford it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD does not need anyone." [3:96-97]

What Is Baca?
Baca (in Psalms) and Baca (in Quran) is another name for Mecca (Makkah, Saudi Arabia) where the first house of worship on earth which was built by Abraham and his first son Ishmael and it was appointed by God for human beings. This house is the Holy Kabah to which all Muslims face while praying and go for Hajj (pilgrimage).

Hajj (Pilgrimage):
Hajj!! There is no hajj in the Bible. someone might say. Let's see what were the Biblical prophets were doing ?

[Exodus 10:9] Moses is telling Pharaoh where he is taking the sons of Isreal :
Moses answered, "Everyone! We'll be taking our young and old, our sons and daughters, our flocks and herds with us. For us it's "a pilgrimage festival" in the LORD's honor."

According to BDB Theological Dictionary the most fundamental meaning of hagag which the name Haggai is derived from is to make a pilgrimage or keep a pilgrimage feast. The Arabic equivalent means "to betake oneself to or towards an object of reverence," and this verb returns in the prescribed pilgrimage to Mecca: the Hadj.
[www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Haggai.html]
Marwah mountain:
Genesis 22:2 "He said, Take now your son, your only son, whome you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah (Marwah), and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains which I will tell you."

Marwah and Safa are two elevated places in Mecca where Hajar was going forth and back looking for water as the water they had finished and she was worried about the baby Ishmael from Dying due to lack of water. During and after few trips looking for water or people, Angel Gabriel hit a rock and a sprig of water flowed and then she was able to drink and to water her baby.

"Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah . So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing." Quran 2:158
The bible scholar are not sure where is this mountain located in the holy land and they are making assumptions. [http://bibleatlas.org/mount_moriah.htm] sometimes they say it is in Jerusalem while there was not even Jerusalem at all this time sometimes they say it is in the south and so on.

The Maqam (Place) of Abraham:
Genesis 22:9
"When they arrived at the place (lit. Maqam) where God had told him to go, Abraham built an altar ...."

Now where is that Altar in Jerusalem ?? why they did not keep it as a Holy place this place exist only in Makkah
"In it (Baca) are clear signs [such as] the (Maqam) standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House " (Quran 3:97)

Pilgrimage to Mecca in Isaiah 60:1-7

"Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you.
See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you.
Nations will come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your dawn.
“Lift up your eyes and look about you: All assemble and come to you; your sons come from afar, and your daughters are carried on the hip.
Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy; the wealth on the seas will be brought to you, to you the riches of the nations will come.
Herds of camels will cover your land, young camels of Midian and Ephah. And all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and incense and proclaiming the praise of the Lord.
All Kedar’s flocks will be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth will serve you; they will be accepted as offerings on my altar, and I will adorn my glorious temple.

In [Isaiah 60:1] A prophecy about a Holy man (prophet) bringing the light of God to the world. This holy man would appear in a time of darkness filling the world and covering the earth, He would appear to eliminate the darkness and spread the light of God and his praises.
In [Isaiah 60:3] we read “And the Nations shall come to thy light “ and that means this Holy Prophet would arise among the nations and his Light would fill his place where the nations would come and visit.

In [Isaiah 60:4] we find the people would come from far, the sons and daughters, all would come together for the Light.

[Isaiah 60:5-6] it keeps telling us about the coming of the people from all over the world to the Light.

[Isaiah 60:7] is the clear meaning, it’s Kedar, Where its flocks and tribes would be gathered together under the light of God, “they would come up with acceptance on mine altar”. Muslims during the Hajj “pilgrimage” they slaughter the sacrifices as one of the ceremonies and Muslims all over the world share that from their places which is Eid Al Adha.

“And I Will glorify the house of my glory”
and it refers to the Ka’ba in Mecca, the Sacred House for God’s glory.

And proclaim among men the Pilgrimage: they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, coming from every remote path" [Quran 22:27]

The Way of Holiness [Isaiah 35:8]
"And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness. The unclean will not journey on it; it will be for those who walk in that Way; wicked fools will not go about on it."
"O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram (the Sacred House) after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise." (Quran 9:28)

The Azan (call of prayer):
Isaiah 40:3 and Mark 1:3
"A voice of one calling: "In the desert prepare the way for the LORD; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God."

The Arabian Peninsula was a deserted place. The "voice calling in the desert" here is clearly refering to the Azan.
Why Azan?
The whole verse reads "Make a path a highway for God"
The Azan (call of prayers) for Muslims is a call which tells Muslim that God is calling him. It is heard all around the world and five times a day. Moreover, hadith refer Azan as a way to Allah and to a submission to God.





Quoting many bible verses out of context is of no use here.The bible calls it,' ever learning but not able to come to the truth'.The message of Jesus was the gospel and the gospel means redemption through Jesus Who thje Father sent.John 3:16 says,'for God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life'.You have quoted many bible verses,add this one to it.Don't be a hypocrite.Tell people in your mosque about John 3:16 too.

'And this is life eternal,that they may know Thee,the Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom Thou has sent'.(John 17:3)

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Kingbusssy(m): 5:00pm On Jul 08, 2016
thorpido:
When you stand before God on judgement day,Bishop Oyedepo won't stand with you or him with you on that day.
Everyone who doesn't accept Jesus as Lord will not be on the side where Jesus is on that day.

'Everyone who has heard the Father and learned of Him comes to Me(Jesus)'..- John 6:45

Can you please show the word ''Christianity" in Bible
Also the word ''Bible'' in Bible

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by koolaid87: 5:00pm On Jul 08, 2016
aliscomonaj:
I think you need to read you bible very and conclude yourself
1. “It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'” FIRST PILLAR OF ISLAM
2. “Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.” – James 4:10

Some Christians may find the Muslim method of prayer odd…but if they were to pray as described in the Bible then they would find themselves praying much like Muslims…for example:

ABLUTION:

“Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped…”
(2 Samuel 12:20)


“So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.”
(Exodus 30:21)

“And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet…”
(Exodus 40:31)

RAISING OF THE HANDS:

“Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name.” (Psalms 63:4)

ALLAHU AKBAR:

“Great is the LORD, and most worthy of praise…”
(Psalms 48:1)

PROSTRATION:

“And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him…”
(Genesis 17:3)

“…and they (Moses and Aaron) fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.”
(Numbers 20:6)

“And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.”
(Joshua 7:6)

“…they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD…”
(2 Chronicles 7:3)

“…and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground.”
(Nehemiah 8:6)

“And he (Jesus) went a little farther and fell on his face, and prayed…”
(Matthew 26:39)

“And when the disciples heard it,they fell on their faces…”
(Matthew 17:6)

“…and he (Elijah) cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees…”
(1 Kings 18:42)

“…and (all the angels) fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God…”
(Revelations 7:11)

“O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.”
(Psalms 95:6)

“…all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.”
(Psalms 22:29)

“…And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.”
(Judges 13:20)

“And when all the people saw it,they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, He is the God; the LORD, He is the God.”
(1 Kings 18:39)

“I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD!”
(Ezekiel 9:cool

“David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times…”
(1 Samuel 20:41)

“And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship…”
(Joshua 5:14)

“And it came to pass, that, when Abraham’s servant heard their words, he worshipped the LORD, bowing himself to the earth…” (Genesis 24:52)
THAT IS THE SECOND PILLAR OF ISLAM IN THE BIBLE

Acts 20:35 ESV / 411 helpful votes

In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Hebrews 13:16 ESV / 359 helpful votes

Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
Matthew 6:1-4 ESV / 298 helpful votes

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Luke 21:1-4 ESV / 167 helpful votes
Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.
THIS IS THE THIRD PILLAR OF ISLAM

Joel 2:12 ESV / 537 helpful votes

“Yet even now,” declares the Lord, “return to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning;
Psalm 69:10 ESV / 472 helpful votes

When I wept and humbled my soul with fasting, it became my reproach.
Matthew 6:18 ESV / 457 helpful votes

That your fasting may not be seen by others but by your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Daniel 10:3 ESV / 421 helpful votes

I ate no delicacies, no meat or wine entered my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, for the full three weeks.
Acts 14:23 ESV / 339 helpful votes

And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
Matthew 4:4 ESV / 319 helpful votes
But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
FOURTH PILLAR OF ISLAM

Makkah and Hajj in the Bible

Psalm 84 1-6
How lovely is your dwelling place, O Lord Almighty!
My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.
Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young— a place near your altar,
O Lord Almighty, my King and my God.
Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you. Selah
Blessed are those whose strength is in you,
who have set their hearts on "pilgrimage."
As they pass through the Valley of Baca,
they make it a place of springs;
the autumn rains also cover it with pools.

Let See What we have here.
Place is a Valley, in this Valley there is a blessed Well
To this Valley pilgrims make their journey and there is a Sacred House of Worship in this Valley of Baka, this Place of worship where the sacred house is at there are COURT YARDS, There are alters
and Sparows and Swallows Lodge at this location and bare their young.

There is no place in Palestine that fits this description the only place that fits this description is BACA which all the Muslims know

"The most important shrine established for the people is the one in Baca; a blessed beacon for all the people. In it are clear signs: the station of Abraham. Anyone who enters it shall be granted safe passage. The people owe it to GOD that they shall observe Hajj (Pilgrimage) to this shrine, when they can afford it. As for those who disbelieve, GOD does not need anyone." [3:96-97]

What Is Baca?
Baca (in Psalms) and Baca (in Quran) is another name for Mecca (Makkah, Saudi Arabia) where the first house of worship on earth which was built by Abraham and his first son Ishmael and it was appointed by God for human beings. This house is the Holy Kabah to which all Muslims face while praying and go for Hajj (pilgrimage).

Hajj (Pilgrimage):
Hajj!! There is no hajj in the Bible. someone might say. Let's see what were the Biblical prophets were doing ?

[Exodus 10:9] Moses is telling Pharaoh where he is taking the sons of Isreal :
Moses answered, "Everyone! We'll be taking our young and old, our sons and daughters, our flocks and herds with us. For us it's "a pilgrimage festival" in the LORD's honor."

According to BDB Theological Dictionary the most fundamental meaning of hagag which the name Haggai is derived from is to make a pilgrimage or keep a pilgrimage feast. The Arabic equivalent means "to betake oneself to or towards an object of reverence," and this verb returns in the prescribed pilgrimage to Mecca: the Hadj.
[www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Haggai.html]
Marwah mountain:
Genesis 22:2 "He said, Take now your son, your only son, whome you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah (Marwah), and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains which I will tell you."

Marwah and Safa are two elevated places in Mecca where Hajar was going forth and back looking for water as the water they had finished and she was worried about the baby Ishmael from Dying due to lack of water. During and after few trips looking for water or people, Angel Gabriel hit a rock and a sprig of water flowed and then she was able to drink and to water her baby.

"Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah . So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing." Quran 2:158
The bible scholar are not sure where is this mountain located in the holy land and they are making assumptions. [http://bibleatlas.org/mount_moriah.htm] sometimes they say it is in Jerusalem while there was not even Jerusalem at all this time sometimes they say it is in the south and so on.

The Maqam (Place) of Abraham:
Genesis 22:9
"When they arrived at the place (lit. Maqam) where God had told him to go, Abraham built an altar ...."

Now where is that Altar in Jerusalem ?? why they did not keep it as a Holy place this place exist only in Makkah
"In it (Baca) are clear signs [such as] the (Maqam) standing place of Abraham. And whoever enters it shall be safe. And [due] to Allah from the people is a pilgrimage to the House " (Quran 3:97)

Pilgrimage to Mecca in Isaiah 60:1-7

"Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you.
See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you.
Nations will come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your dawn.
“Lift up your eyes and look about you: All assemble and come to you; your sons come from afar, and your daughters are carried on the hip.
Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy; the wealth on the seas will be brought to you, to you the riches of the nations will come.
Herds of camels will cover your land, young camels of Midian and Ephah. And all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and incense and proclaiming the praise of the Lord.
All Kedar’s flocks will be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth will serve you; they will be accepted as offerings on my altar, and I will adorn my glorious temple.

In [Isaiah 60:1] A prophecy about a Holy man (prophet) bringing the light of God to the world. This holy man would appear in a time of darkness filling the world and covering the earth, He would appear to eliminate the darkness and spread the light of God and his praises.
In [Isaiah 60:3] we read “And the Nations shall come to thy light “ and that means this Holy Prophet would arise among the nations and his Light would fill his place where the nations would come and visit.

In [Isaiah 60:4] we find the people would come from far, the sons and daughters, all would come together for the Light.

[Isaiah 60:5-6] it keeps telling us about the coming of the people from all over the world to the Light.

[Isaiah 60:7] is the clear meaning, it’s Kedar, Where its flocks and tribes would be gathered together under the light of God, “they would come up with acceptance on mine altar”. Muslims during the Hajj “pilgrimage” they slaughter the sacrifices as one of the ceremonies and Muslims all over the world share that from their places which is Eid Al Adha.

“And I Will glorify the house of my glory”
and it refers to the Ka’ba in Mecca, the Sacred House for God’s glory.

And proclaim among men the Pilgrimage: they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, coming from every remote path" [Quran 22:27]

The Way of Holiness [Isaiah 35:8]
"And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness. The unclean will not journey on it; it will be for those who walk in that Way; wicked fools will not go about on it."
"O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram (the Sacred House) after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise." (Quran 9:28)

The Azan (call of prayer):
Isaiah 40:3 and Mark 1:3
"A voice of one calling: "In the desert prepare the way for the LORD; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God."

The Arabian Peninsula was a deserted place. The "voice calling in the desert" here is clearly refering to the Azan.
Why Azan?
The whole verse reads "Make a path a highway for God"
The Azan (call of prayers) for Muslims is a call which tells Muslim that God is calling him. It is heard all around the world and five times a day. Moreover, hadith refer Azan as a way to Allah and to a submission to God.





Brother park well with your blasphemy...Na who your story help? What we need is love, tolerance and peace..If your religion doesn't embrace any of that, then its nothing but trash.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by 9jatatafo(m): 5:03pm On Jul 08, 2016
The way that seeneth right to a man leads to destruction.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by jesuspikinjp(m): 5:03pm On Jul 08, 2016
your life your choice. if you like convert to Mormon that does not change my surname, hope some1 go sponsor him to mecca next?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Rilwon: 5:04pm On Jul 08, 2016
Emusan:


Light and darkness don't have anything in common
Indeed, but why do you assume your Jesus is light and that of the Muslim is darkness? Let me guess, because your book said so again?

Just as you said earlier because your Quran said so!

Are you Admitting my point?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by ebenholer(m): 5:05pm On Jul 08, 2016
Sorry ismail, u don't av knowledge of the truth and there is no way it can set u free...

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Nobody: 5:06pm On Jul 08, 2016
Another Boko Haram boy in making.
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Rilwon: 5:06pm On Jul 08, 2016
Emusan:


Is that Only True God of the creation!

Bros, you don't answer question with a question undecided

Would you please answer my question?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by HevilSpirit: 5:06pm On Jul 08, 2016
Lool and the aim of this thread is established: Muslim Versus Christian.... Na una sabi jo... everyone knows the wrong and right thing 2 do... when u idolise someone that is when u are disappointed by their actions... he was obviously one of those dat idolised d Bishop and the Church and so didn't expect any bad so was grossly disappointed... #NewsFlash: The solution is not in staying or changing religion... as long as it is humans that r in Islam same thing can happen there... congrats on his new found Religion... but if the story of why he left is 2 be believed he will soon be disappointed and end up an atheist
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by predatorX: 5:07pm On Jul 08, 2016
Issorait....... WHEN WEE YOU START WEARING BOMBS?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 5:07pm On Jul 08, 2016
Kingbusssy:


Can you please show the word ''Christianity" in Bible
Also the word ''Bible'' in Bible
Acts 11:26- '....and they were first called Christians in Antioch.(I hope you won't ask me the difference between Christians and Christianity).

Bible is from the Greek word Biblio which means 'book'.Is the bible a book?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Orikinla(m): 5:09pm On Jul 08, 2016
[size=28pt]So, this is news to Nairaland mods?

There are Muslim security guards at Deeper Life and RCCG in Lagos.[/size]

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by Phi001(m): 5:11pm On Jul 08, 2016
Xbox222:

Who are you to determine if bishop oyedepo won't be there on the judgement day before God , or do you think being a general overseer is an automatic ticket to heaven?
Righteousness is what takes us to heaven not title.
Bishop my black ass
It's pathetic how people don't think before commenting. Did he say anything about Bishop going to heaven?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by idesylvester(m): 5:12pm On Jul 08, 2016
Sirmuel1:





What if the Jesus is not real? What if Islam is the true religion? What would you do?
then d world wouldn't v existed at the 1st place... from Adam

No b only if!!!
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by idesylvester(m): 5:13pm On Jul 08, 2016
Sirmuel1:





What if the Jesus is not real? What if Islam is the true religion? What would you do?
then d world wouldn't v existed at the 1st place... from Adam

No b only if!!! Na iva caniero
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by deloon(m): 5:13pm On Jul 08, 2016
Okijajuju1:


Alhamdulahi..

Alhamdulillahi
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by TruthHurts1(m): 5:14pm On Jul 08, 2016
NA WA. THE SAME MENTALITY THAT NEVER ALLOWED YOU TO RISE ABOVE BEING A DRIVER HAS LED YOU TO THE RELIGION OF BOMBS, BEGGARS AND PEDOPHILES. OMASE O. SEE AS YOU COME USELESS YOUR LIFE.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by swuftz: 5:14pm On Jul 08, 2016
my people perish for lack of knowledge. from Christianity to Islam is like from frying pan to fire. there is rot in both religion. you should have stayed in the fold and see how God will vindicate you. but you have chosen your path now, let's see if you are vindicated on the last day. but am convinced aljanah or what do you guys call it now, is not the same as heaven. my thought though
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 5:14pm On Jul 08, 2016
bapullow:


Islam accept Jesus, respect, and follow Jesus (peace be upon him) in fact according teaching of prophet u can't just called Jesus without adding peace be upon him when u do that u are not good muslim and even Jesus pbuh preach noting but Islam
Islam does not accept the Christ and the gospel.It's a deception saying Islam accepts Jesus but rejects the gospel.Don't be deceived.

Jesus Himself is the Prince of peace,it's wasteful and useless saying 'peace be upon him'.Moreover,the quoran testifies that Jesus is in heaven.Anyone in heaven does not need peace to be upon him.They are in peace already.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by sellydion: 5:16pm On Jul 08, 2016
A guy to be pitied. Ignorance is a disease. A lose of job is a lose of religion conviction?

He is a professing christian and not a firm believer.
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by idesylvester(m): 5:16pm On Jul 08, 2016
Many are called bt few are chosen

Only d truth shall set u free is not a physical free bt spiritual.. wen one confesses that he's responsible for d kilin of d 5 police officer in USA,does he xpect 2 go free? Those wu called themselves Christians 4 mouth na so e dey end
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 5:17pm On Jul 08, 2016
abdulskulboy:

story,
Story of the quran?
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by idesylvester(m): 5:18pm On Jul 08, 2016
Gham! Gbam!! And Gbam!!! Again.. guy clamp 4 urself b4 I do.wa sere
thorpido:
Islam does not accept the Christ and the gospel.It's a deception saying Islam accepts Jesus but rejects the gospel.Don't be deceived.

Jesus Himself is the Prince of peace,it's wasteful and useless saying 'peace be upon him'.Moreover,the quoran testifies that Jesus is in heaven.Anyone in heaven does not need peace to be upon him.They are in peace already.
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by ebenholer(m): 5:19pm On Jul 08, 2016
I ever live to see drivers as majorly unbelievers, my dad as a pastor had changed drivers four times in 2 years due to unbelieving acts that u cannot but get from them...it is as if driving work is meant for thode who are ready for he'll in Nigeria.
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 5:24pm On Jul 08, 2016
Sirmuel1:





What if the Jesus is not real? What if Islam is the true religion? What would you do?
I do not have a religion.I have Christ and fellowship with the Father.I have eternal life.
No religion has and gives eternal life.Islam does not have it.
Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by DeZoro(m): 5:27pm On Jul 08, 2016
This is to bring to the Public that this fellow who calls himself Ismail or Nicholas Martins was never a staff in the Garden of faith, Kaduna. I was the Northern Region Admin officer for 3 years in the Garden of faith and I never saw this man file in the secretariat.

Though I was employed just immediately after Bishop Abioye left the Garden of Faith, there was never a time when such name was mentioned or discussed or referred to from any of the staff I met.

this person should know that using the name of a highly respected and a statesman like Bishop Abioye to justify his action is very bad.

the Public should disregard his story and its entirety.

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Re: Ismail Haruna Converts To Muslim: Ex-Driver To Bishop David Abioye Of Winners by thorpido(m): 5:28pm On Jul 08, 2016
Rilwon:


And who told you that Islam don't recognize Jesus?
Islam doesn not accept the gospel.Recognising and accepting are two different things.

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