barny95:
some translation said obeisance which means respect and obedience. Sarah called Abraham her Lord. Does that make him God? No. So if Sarah could call Abraham her Lord, can't Thomas called Jesus his God and Lord?

themall:
@DoctorAlien, @Logicbwoy @Ranchhoddas @jnrbayano @paulGrundy @solite3
Just wondering.....
Is the prophet Moses, Elijah true God or not?

themall:

No man has ever seen God at any time, only His only begotten-god has come down to explain who he really is to those who will believe.
Jesus was created, God was not
Jesus has lived with human flesh, God has not
Jesus was tempted by the Devil to be disloyal to God, God will NEVER be tempted to be disloyal to Jesus

Please tell me am wrong and I will go to do some prayerful research, because it seems there's something y'all aren't telling me on this thread.

DoctorAlien:


Does John 10:18 agree with you?

you mean the bible he quote contradict yours ?

DoctorAlien:


Moses is not God, neither is Elijah.

since you admit Jesus is nowhere called true God , do you now accept that Jesus is a false God ?

DoctorAlien:


I'm very sure Daniel never posed as GOD, or demanded worship. Nebuchadnezzar fell before Daniel in awe and wonder. Daniel explained to him that the source of the interpretation he gave was GOD. Daniel made it clear beyond doubt that GOD is the source of all He knows and was going to say. So, Nebuchadnezzar worshipping Daniel means he acknowledged the Spirit in Daniel.

Notice that Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged GOD in v.47 of Daniel 2.

People worshipped and even tried to sacrifice to Paul and Barnabas at Lystra, but they prevented the people. They pointed to GOD, who alone deserves worship.

Peacefullove:


if God forbid worship to anything but himself then thats another bible contradiction, DANIEL accept worship .

Then King Nebuchadnezzar threw himself down before Daniel and worshiped him Daniel 2 vs 46

Daniel = God ? or how u wan take explain this one . mtcheew

themall:
Are the MOSAIC laws not God's Laws? Now, who told you to disobey some of GOD's laws and obey the rest?

rodDICK:


Is your God one of confusion? I cannot even grasp the meaning of Trinity and I bet you cannot too, because prominent Trinitarian Bible scholars when questioned have admitted the doctrine to be a mystery.

I think Jesus with all his illustrations and examples which made him a great teacher could have been able to succinctly explain the Trinity. But he never even suggested it.

That is the problem I have with religion. It is so senseless. As humans we can be more productive without religion.

DoctorAlien:


Daniel did not claim the worship that belongs to GOD. And Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged GOD. He even knew that it was GOD who gave the interpretation to Daniel. So, even Nebuchadnezzar knew who worship belongs to. Read Daniel 3:28-29.

dave1614:
great is not superlative neither is it comparative. The Bible never said Jesus is the greatest God. So how can he be equal to his father.

DoctorAlien:


But Jesus made it clear in Jn. 10:18 that He was the one who gave His life. It wasn't the Roman soldiers who took His life. He gave it. He could have held it back. But He gave it.

DoctorAlien:
truthislight,

If we go by barny95's logic, can Dan. 2:46 be translated "Nebuchadnezzar did obeisance before Daniel"?

truthislight:


Sharrraaaaap!

Hypocrite!

Stop lying, i know it is hard for you to stop lying.

You have spOken so many lies on this thread.

Just sharap! Jesus died. If he did not die, how did he pay for the ransom of Adam?

Just keep QUITE! Enough of the disgraceful lies.

DoctorAlien:


There is a billion and one proofs to show that Jesus is the true GOD. You still haven't pointed out an attribute of the true GOD that Jesus does not have.

Death had no power over Jesus, because He was GOD. He was the One who subjected Himself to death as a sacrifice for sin.

DoctorAlien:


Jesus is equal to His Father. Read Phil. 2:5-8.

themall:

1. No true christian is awaiting the coming-in-flesh of the Almighty God!
2. But Jesus or any other god can come in flesh. Those who see the Almighty God and yet wish to live, are living in theological mythology!!

jnrbayano:


Are you sure you read and understood what you quoted?

I pointed you to just a verse among many where the Holy Spirit inspired St Paul to call Jesus God.


Is the bone of contention no longer if Jesus is God?

Peacefullove:


really ? But the same Jesus confess " Father is Greater than I " john 14 vs 8 .

talk, Jesus is lying ?

Peacefullove:


and the bold make Catholicism right, since that make Mary the mother of God , dont you think ?

DoctorAlien:


Jesus was referring to Himself in flesh. His Father was greater than He was in the flesh. The Bible made us to understand that Jesus identified with the lowliest of the lowly echelons of life. He even died like a criminal.

Read Phil. 2:5-8 again.

Peacefullove:


and the bold make Catholicism right, since that make Mary the mother of God , dont you think ?

jnrbayano:


Don't derail someone's thread. Learn to obey a simple rule.

Open a thread about your queries, mention me and I will come over.

I will open the thread soon , and will invite you . just get ready

Peacefullove:

^^

this crap answer, Let me see if you will still stick to that crap answer - but when he said I and the Father are one, he wasnt in flesh . he was a spirit ?