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Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by lawani: 10:05pm On Sep 10, 2016
Baaballiyo:


The last time I checked Lawani was saying the Emir of Ilorin is of yoruba decent, and now this coming from him.

The Emir of Ilorin is a Yoruba man whose compound was founded by a Hausa man. There are Hausa people in Kano, Katsina and etc whose compounds were founded by Yorubas. I hope you understand now. Do Hausas call themselves Gambari? Even Fulani call themselves Fulbe, Pula and etc. Gambari, Tapa, Fulani are Yoruba nomenclatures
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 10:53pm On Sep 10, 2016
lawani:


The Emir of Ilorin is a Yoruba man whose compound was founded by a Hausa man. There are Hausa people in Kano, Katsina and etc whose compounds were founded by Yorubas. I hope you understand now. Do Hausas call themselves Gambari? Even Fulani call themselves Fulbe, Pula and etc. Gambari, Tapa, Fulani are Yoruba nomenclatures

There is not any compound founded by yoruba in Kano, and Fulani is a Hausa nomenclature not yoruba.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by lawani: 7:30am On Sep 11, 2016
Baaballiyo:


There is not any compound founded by yoruba in Kano, and Fulani is a Hausa nomenclature not yoruba.

Yoruba have been trading all over the place for thousands of years but if we never conquered a place, as in subdue it, we dont say we control it. People like Amos Adamu, Babangida and etc are Yorubas who have assimilated into the culture of their hosts. Go to even Mali, there will be traditional compounds headed by people of Yoruba descent. In Kano, there are Mai Ungwars of Nupe, Yoruba descent. A sizeable percentage of Hausa, Kanuri and etc are Yoruba descent paternally even if 2 percent but Yorubas assimilate well. So a Gambari is a Yoruba man not a Hausa man. I believe you are Fulani and not Yoruba or Hausa, so Ilorin does not concern you! Better behave yourself. You have nothing with Yoruba. The people of Balogun Fulani in Ilorin can only speak with you in English. Those are Yorubas ethnically and by DNA if you test them. A Hausa descended man was made Emir in Ilorin to prove that Hausas afterall can make good Emirs despite that they are not allowed to be Emir on Hausa land. So behave yourself and face your issues. When Nigeria breaks up, Ilorin can not join Sokoto, neither can Jebba, Bariba, Kabba, Igala and etc. Fulani have negligible stake in all those places. They are not indigenes. So it does not make sense for you to be fretting over Ilorin a Yoruba traditional state that appointed a Hausa descended man as Emir to spite the Fulani holding Hausa land by the jugular!

We all know that when Yoruba say f, Hausa use p. So their word is Pula where ours is Fula or Fulani. The cattle Fulani to Hausas are Bororo. The word Pul, Pulbe, Fulbe are used by the town Fulani to describe themselves but Yorubas dont use those words, what we know is Fulani while Hausas see the town Fulanis as Hausas and the cattle Fulani as Bororo. So the word Fulani is a Yoruba nomenclature.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by GorkoSusaay: 2:15pm On Sep 11, 2016
lawani:


Yoruba have been trading all over the place for thousands of years but if we never conquered a place, as in subdue it, we dont say we control it. People like Amos Adamu, Babangida and etc are Yorubas who have assimilated into the culture of their hosts. Go to even Mali, there will be traditional compounds headed by people of Yoruba descent. In Kano, there are Mai Ungwars of Nupe, Yoruba descent. A sizeable percentage of Hausa, Kanuri and etc are Yoruba descent paternally even if 2 percent but Yorubas assimilate well. So a Gambari is a Yoruba man not a Hausa man. I believe you are Fulani and not Yoruba or Hausa, so Ilorin does not concern you! Better behave yourself. You have nothing with Yoruba. The people of Balogun Fulani in Ilorin can only speak with you in English. Those are Yorubas ethnically and by DNA if you test them. A Hausa descended man was made Emir in Ilorin to prove that Hausas afterall can make good Emirs despite that they are not allowed to be Emir on Hausa land. So behave yourself and face your issues. When Nigeria breaks up, Ilorin can not join Sokoto, neither can Jebba, Bariba, Kabba, Igala and etc. Fulani have negligible stake in all those places. They are not indigenes. So it does not make sense for you to be fretting over Ilorin a Yoruba traditional state that appointed a Hausa descended man as Emir to spite the Fulani holding Hausa land by the jugular!

We all know that when Yoruba say f, Hausa use p. So their word is Pula where ours is Fula or Fulani. The cattle Fulani to Hausas are Bororo. The word Pul, Pulbe, Fulbe are used by the town Fulani to describe themselves but Yorubas dont use those words, what we know is Fulani while Hausas see the town Fulanis as Hausas and the cattle Fulani as Bororo. So the word Fulani is a Yoruba nomenclature.

You are a shamefaced ignoramus of a liar. Yorubas are generally knowledgeable about their history but I don't know what happened to you.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 11:19am On Sep 12, 2016
lawani:


Yoruba have been trading all over the place for thousands of years but if we never conquered a place, as in subdue it, we dont say we control it. People like Amos Adamu, Babangida and etc are Yorubas who have assimilated into the culture of their hosts. Go to even Mali, there will be traditional compounds headed by people of Yoruba descent. In Kano, there are Mai Ungwars of Nupe, Yoruba descent. A sizeable percentage of Hausa, Kanuri and etc are Yoruba descent paternally even if 2 percent but Yorubas assimilate well. So a Gambari is a Yoruba man not a Hausa man. I believe you are Fulani and not Yoruba or Hausa, so Ilorin does not concern you! Better behave yourself. You have nothing with Yoruba. The people of Balogun Fulani in Ilorin can only speak with you in English. Those are Yorubas ethnically and by DNA if you test them. A Hausa descended man was made Emir in Ilorin to prove that Hausas afterall can make good Emirs despite that they are not allowed to be Emir on Hausa land. So behave yourself and face your issues. When Nigeria breaks up, Ilorin can not join Sokoto, neither can Jebba, Bariba, Kabba, Igala and etc. Fulani have negligible stake in all those places. They are not indigenes. So it does not make sense for you to be fretting over Ilorin a Yoruba traditional state that appointed a Hausa descended man as Emir to spite the Fulani holding Hausa land by the jugular!

We all know that when Yoruba say f, Hausa use p. So their word is Pula where ours is Fula or Fulani. The cattle Fulani to Hausas are Bororo. The word Pul, Pulbe, Fulbe are used by the town Fulani to describe themselves but Yorubas dont use those words, what we know is Fulani while Hausas see the town Fulanis as Hausas and the cattle Fulani as Bororo. So the word Fulani is a Yoruba nomenclature.

You never betray your nature, twisting and moulding established facts to fit your tale, If Nupe are Yoruba then I agree they have a compound in kano called " Tudun Nufawa" but Nupe are not Yoruba's, and the Kanuris also. In Hausa language there's no alphabet 'P', when you see 'P' in pular, peul, pullo e.t.c. its mostly used by Franco phoney nations ( Nations that speak French). And the mbororo'en are called "Bararoji/Bararo" in Hausa not bororo. Your bitterness to what Fulani did to Ilorin over two centuries ago makes one think may be you are a reincarnation of Afonja. Nonetheless, whether or not u are his reincarnation history had already been made and no amount of twisting and moulding by the Lawanis of this world could change that.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by lawani: 12:26pm On Sep 12, 2016
Baaballiyo:


You never betray your nature, twisting and moulding established facts to fit your tale, If Nupe are Yoruba then I agree they have a compound in kano called " Tudun Nufawa" but Nupe are not Yoruba's, and the Kanuris also. In Hausa language there's no alphabet 'P', when you see 'P' in pular, peul, pullo e.t.c. its mostly used by Franco phoney nations ( Nations that speak French). And the mbororo'en are called "Bararoji/Bararo" in Hausa not bororo. Your bitterness to what Fulani did to Ilorin over two centuries ago makes one think may be you are a reincarnation of Afonja. Nonetheless, whether or not u are his reincarnation history had already been made and no amount of twisting and moulding by the Lawanis of this world could change that.

Stop obsessing yourself with Ilorin, Mr Man. You are a foreigner to them. Two or three Yoruba of Fulani descent were chief Imam in Ilorin that is chief priest, now the position has been given to Hausa descent, yet you want to remove the man again as you did to all Habe rulers in Hausa land grin. Abeg get lost!
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by AjaanaOka(m): 2:08pm On Sep 14, 2016
Baaballiyo:


You never betray your nature, twisting and moulding established facts to fit your tale, If Nupe are Yoruba then I agree they have a compound in kano called " Tudun Nufawa" but Nupe are not Yoruba's, and the Kanuris also. In Hausa language there's no alphabet 'P', when you see 'P' in pular, peul, pullo e.t.c. its mostly used by Franco phoney nations ( Nations that speak French). And the mbororo'en are called "Bararoji/Bararo" in Hausa not bororo. Your bitterness to what Fulani did to Ilorin over two centuries ago makes one think may be you are a reincarnation of Afonja. Nonetheless, whether or not u are his reincarnation history had already been made and no amount of twisting and moulding by the Lawanis of this world could change that.

If this passage is to be believed, there is/was a Yoruba-founded ward in Kano called Ayugi. What do you make of this?

Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 5:02pm On Sep 14, 2016
AjaanaOka:


If this passage is to be believed, there is/was a Yoruba-founded ward in Kano called Ayugi. What do you make of this?

May be there was, since the passasge said about the 15th century, as of present there's no ward\compound called Ayugi in Kano, besides all settlers in Kano from were ever they came never founded any ward including the Fulani, at the time of there arrival the palace usually assigned a compound for them to settled there and that area is usually under an already existing ward with a Hausa ward head.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by AjaanaOka(m): 5:30pm On Sep 14, 2016
Baaballiyo:


May be there was, since the passasge said about the 15th century, as of present there's no ward\compound called Ayugi in Kano, besides all settlers in Kano from were ever they came never founded any ward including the Fulani, at the time of there arrival the palace usually assigned a compound for them to settled there and that area is usually under an already existing ward with a Hausa ward head.

Oh okay.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by lawani: 6:19pm On Sep 14, 2016
Baaballiyo:


May be there was, since the passasge said about the 15th century, as of present there's no ward\compound called Ayugi in Kano, besides all settlers in Kano from were ever they came never founded any ward including the Fulani, at the time of there arrival the palace usually assigned a compound for them to settled there and that area is usually under an already existing ward with a Hausa ward head.

what you need to know is that across Yoruba land are titled people who are descended from non Yorubas but they are now Yorubas. This is the case all over Yoruba land. There are prominent people from those families. They are now ethnically Yorubas. Do not be calling an Oshodi a Nupe man or a Gambari a Hausa man. They are Yorubas please. They will never describe themselves as Hausa or Nupe. It is like that all over the world. Even in Kano, Maiduguri, many of them there know that their progenitors were Yorubas. That is how things roll.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by lawani: 7:31am On Sep 15, 2016
Baaballiyo:


You never betray your nature, twisting and moulding established facts to fit your tale, If Nupe are Yoruba then I agree they have a compound in kano called " Tudun Nufawa" but Nupe are not Yoruba's, and the Kanuris also. In Hausa language there's no alphabet 'P', when you see 'P' in pular, peul, pullo e.t.c. its mostly used by Franco phoney nations ( Nations that speak French). And the mbororo'en are called "Bararoji/Bararo" in Hausa not bororo. Your bitterness to what Fulani did to Ilorin over two centuries ago makes one think may be you are a reincarnation of Afonja. Nonetheless, whether or not u are his reincarnation history had already been made and no amount of twisting and moulding by the Lawanis of this world could change that.

You talk like an infant. I am not a scholar of Kano history but the fact that there is Tudun Nufawa in Kano is clear indication that Yoruba have compound there. I dont need to even make enquiries. The Hausa call Oyo ile Katunga and Katunga was bigger than any of their cities, so how can Katunga people not have a compound in Kano while the Nufawa has? That does not make sense Mr. At any point, Yorubawa surpass Nufawa in Kano. So what you are saying is again infantile rubbish as usual. Yoruba have compound in Kano! Then the only two groups that can weigh against Yorubas in West Africa are Igbos and Hausas, not Fulani of course.
Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 1:43pm On Sep 15, 2016
lawani:


You talk like an infant. I am not a scholar of Kano history but the fact that there is Tudun Nufawa in Kano is clear indication that Yoruba have compound there. I dont need to even make enquiries. The Hausa call Oyo ile Katunga and Katunga was bigger than any of their cities, so how can Katunga people not have a compound in Kano while the Nufawa has? That does not make sense Mr. At any point, Yorubawa surpass Nufawa in Kano. So what you are saying is again infantile rubbish as usual. Yoruba have compound in Kano! Then the only two groups that can weigh against Yorubas in West Africa are Igbos and Hausas, not Fulani of course.

LOL you talk like an old man, you admitted not knowing the history of Kano and yet you are arguing base on assumptions.

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