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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 5:33am On Nov 10, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
WASTEFUL NIGERIA U19S WIN TUNE-UP
GAME 4-1








Nigeria U19s trounced J1 Academy of Abuja 4-1
in a test game ahead of an invitational
tournament in Korea.

The scoreline ought to have been heavier, but for poor finishing by the team led by coach Manu Garba.


Nnamdi Kanu grabbed a brace for the team made up mostly of the Golden Eaglets Class of 2016 who failed to qualify for next year's U17 AFCON in Madagascar.


The team are due to fly out to Korea on Monday
and will play their opening game against England on Wednesday.


They will also face the hosts team (Korea) and Iran.

Source: http://africanfootball.com/news/661485/Wasteful-Nigeria-U19s-win-tune-up-game-4-1

I dnt like it when these boys are called U19. They are U16.

They were supposed to play U17 next year. So they are still U16.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:52am On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


Very good exposure. grin

Yes u are right. They have been exposed.

This is what happens when u go for an U19 tourney with U16 players.

With all the exposures and experience Solanke, Onomah, Edjaria and co have gotten they are still part of this tourney bc they see it as a "developmental" opportunity and not jst an exposure opportunity.

I always say it that development starts at U19. It is not even about winning the trophy.

This tourney is going to do more harm than good to those boys.

Una say " age does not matter in football". Ok na.

How can it do more harm to them? This gave the boys chance to play against professionals. You wrote that this is not about winning. The is about giving the next generation exposure and they got it at a high level.

This is impressive for the NFF.

They got to play against the likes of Solanke and Ovie at such young ages. The lessons they learnt that day is more than what they will learn in weeks or even months. Good exposure.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:55am On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


They understand the importance of an U19 team. See the players they paraded. Our own na to expose players.

We should have used this tourney to assess our U20 players since they will not participate in the next WYC. Development starts at U19 & the Europeans know this. They dnt joke with an U19 tourney bc that is where they pick new players for the senior team.



The reason why this project is important is because we do not have avenues to expose our young players. The Europeans already have their young players exposed and competing in quality environment. England can parade a top team of exposed players. However, the exposed comes first. We need to expose before parading.

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by confun: 1:15pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
WASTEFUL NIGERIA U19S WIN TUNE-UP
GAME 4-1








Nigeria U19s trounced J1 Academy of Abuja 4-1
in a test game ahead of an invitational
tournament in Korea.

The scoreline ought to have been heavier, but for poor finishing by the team led by coach Manu Garba.


Nnamdi Kanu grabbed a brace for the team made up mostly of the Golden Eaglets Class of 2016 who failed to qualify for next year's U17 AFCON in Madagascar.


The team are due to fly out to Korea on Monday
and will play their opening game against England on Wednesday.


They will also face the hosts team (Korea) and Iran.

Source: http://africanfootball.com/news/661485/Wasteful-Nigeria-U19s-win-tune-up-game-4-1
see their faces, these guys are neonates for real o, they look like students in junior sec school, anyway they are being exposed sha... bt that 8-1 trashing na embarrassment o.

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:32pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


The reason why this project is important is because we do not have avenues to expose our young players. The Europeans already have their young players exposed and competing in quality environment. England can parade a top team of exposed players. However, the exposed comes first. We need to expose before parading.

Pls stop this, only countries like Malta can say they are going for exposure, we are Nigerians and we should never lose 8-1 at this level. This is bad for our image. Abuja fc would have done better.

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 1:38pm On Nov 10, 2016
I remember someone suggested they use the U20 boy instead of this U16 and we kept hearing exposure. This is embarrassment and no f**kin exposure

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:31pm On Nov 10, 2016
NIGERIA U19S U-16s LOSE AGAIN IN SUWON
CONTINENTAL CUP





Nigeria U19s lost second straight game today at the Suwon Continental Cup


Nigeria U19s led by coach Manu Garba lost their second straight game at the Suwon Continental Cup when they went down 1-0 to Iran Thursday.

On Wednesday, they were battered 8-1 by
England in their opening game.


Iran netted the match winner in the 79th minute.

The team are made up mostly of the Nigeria U17 players, who failed to qualify for next year’s U17 AFCON in Madagascar.

They have complained about the cold and time
difference in Korea.

They will play their final game in the invitational
tournament against hosts South Korea, who will
host the FIFA U20 World Cup in the summer.

Source: http://africanfootball.com//news/662933/Nigeria-U19s-lose-again-in-Suwon-Continental-Cup
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by chrisooblog: 3:40pm On Nov 10, 2016
for once i'm happy that the nff is thinking of the future and not instant gratification of win now now. yes they have lost two matches, yes the loss to england by that scoreline was embarrassing but the lessons learnt and experience gained will be invaluable to them in the future

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by joseph1013: 5:14pm On Nov 10, 2016
People are talking of exposure when these defeats are likely to jeopardize the future of the kids. If we has used the U20 boys, at least we would have put up a good performance and scouts could see one or two players to take abroad.

This is too embarrassing.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:32pm On Nov 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Pls stop this, only countries like Malta can say they are going for exposure, we are Nigerians and we should never lose 8-1 at this level. This is bad for our image. Abuja fc would have done better.

Tell me the 19 year old you have exposed like Iwobi and Ejaria? I have not seen a youngster from the home League given a chance in the Super Eagles.

How can we expose our youngsters if not avenues like this?

If it was all about winning, we would have carried a bigger squad. This is about exposing the boys the NFF spent money and time in running a screening process.

This is very innovative and I am impressed with the NFF.

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:35pm On Nov 10, 2016
joseph1013:
People are talking of exposure when these defeats are likely to jeopardize the future of the kids. If we has used the U20 boys, at least we would have put up a good performance and scouts could see one or two players to take abroad.

This is too embarrassing.

So you feel abandoning the boys and letting their talents waste will jeopardize them more than them making a trip out of the country and playing with professional footballers.

As in eh.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:39pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
NIGERIA U19S U-16s LOSE AGAIN IN SUWON
CONTINENTAL CUP








Nigeria U19s led by coach Manu Garba lost their second straight game at the Suwon Continental Cup when they went down 1-0 to Iran Thursday.

On Wednesday, they were battered 8-1 by
England in their opening game.


Iran netted the match winner in the 79th minute.

The team are made up mostly of the Nigeria U17 players, who failed to qualify for next year’s U17 AFCON in Madagascar.

They have complained about the cold and time
difference in Korea.


They will play their final game in the invitational
tournament against hosts South Korea, who will
host the FIFA U20 World Cup in the summer.

Source: http://africanfootball.com//news/662933/Nigeria-U19s-lose-again-in-Suwon-Continental-Cup

That is a good point the boys made but this is part of your development process. Give your best in the final game.

Props to the NFF. You guys impressed me this time. I see better days ahead. By the time these boys are playing the AYC qualifiers, the NFF will see the result of their resourcefulness. This is a good definition of long term planning.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by joseph1013: 5:45pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


So you feel abandoning the boys and letting their talents waste will jeopardize them more than them making a trip out of the country and playing with professional footballers.

As in eh.

Why didn't we use the appropriate boys? Using the Amuneke U20 boys would have made more sense. Look at their faces...they look U13. And you ask them to go against Ejaria and Solanke.

The way we think in this country ehn...smh
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 6:24pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


How can it do more harm to them? This gave the boys chance to play against professionals. You wrote that this is not about winning. The is about giving the next generation exposure and they got it at a high level.

This is impressive for the NFF.

They got to play against the likes of Solanke and Ovie at such young ages. The lessons they learnt that day is more than what they will learn in weeks or even months. Good exposure.

Firstly, why it will do more harm than good is the NFF had planned to use this tourney as an early stage of preparation for the 2019 AYC/WYC qualifiers. The NFF is very likely going to disband the team if they continue loosing like this. Most of these players would definitely be axed. If these are the players we will start the 2019 AYC qualifiers with we are heading for another early exit.

See, we will continue to fail at the U20 level bc we have continued to underrate the competition at that level and also the importance of that age grade.

The U19/U20 is for players that are at the verge of breaking into the senior team. European teams dnt joke with the U19 & U21 competitions as they would want to evaluate players that are getting set to join the seniors.

Sincerely for this tourney I would have loved to see the likes of Osimhen, the Nwakali brothers, Awoniyi, Ezeh, Awaziem, Sadiq Umar, Sincere Seth, Lazarus, Nura Abdullahi, Azubuike Okechukwu, Okonkwo, Matthew, Anumudu, Yahaya among others. These players are U19 & we would have loved to see how they are progressing. They are the crop that we are looking at to complete the transition in the Super Eagles. We need to see them play in more competition to assess their readiness

The tourney was squeezed into the fifa free window so most of these players would have been available.
Rohr would have sent one of coaching staff to monitor the team in training and on match days.

You see the team paraded by England? They are young layers being prepared to be capped in the near future.

Those our U16 players still have a long way to go. A good number may not end up as pros.
We have jst wasted this opportunity on players we are not sure them have anything to offer.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 6:27pm On Nov 10, 2016
joseph1013:
People are talking of exposure when these defeats are likely to jeopardize the future of the kids. If we has used the U20 boys, at least we would have put up a good performance and scouts could see one or two players to take abroad.

This is too embarrassing.

Thank you bro.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 6:30pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


So you feel abandoning the boys and letting their talents waste will jeopardize them more than them making a trip out of the country and playing with professional footballers.

As in eh.

We have identified some special talents that are U19 for development. Banking of these U16 boys is like a wild goose chase.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:41pm On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


We have identified some special talents that are U19 for development. Banking of these U16 boys is like a wild goose chase.

Who banked on them? This was a clear process to give the boys who Manu Garba and his technical crew went through a rigorous screening process to discover. In this tournament the boys gained that exposure in a nice way. Played against professionals who played for clubs they dream off.

This was a brilliant process and I doff my hat to the NFF.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


Firstly, why it will do more harm than good is the NFF had planned to use this tourney as an early stage of preparation for the 2019 AYC/WYC qualifiers. The NFF is very likely going to disband the team if they continue loosing like this. Most of these players would definitely be axed. If these are the players we will start the 2019 AYC qualifiers with we are heading for another early exit.

See, we will continue to fail at the U20 level bc we have continued to underrate the competition at that level and also the importance of that age grade.

The U19/U20 is for players that are at the verge of breaking into the senior team. European teams dnt joke with the U19 & U21 competitions as they would want to evaluate players that are getting set to join the seniors.

Sincerely for this tourney I would have loved to see the likes of Osimhen, the Nwakali brothers, Awoniyi, Ezeh, Awaziem, Sadiq Umar, Sincere Seth, Lazarus, Nura Abdullahi, Azubuike Okechukwu, Okonkwo, Matthew, Anumudu, Yahaya among others. These players are U19 & we would have loved to see how they are progressing. They are the crop that we are looking at to complete the transition in the Super Eagles. We need to see them play in more competition to assess their readiness

The tourney was squeezed into the fifa free window so most of these players would have been available.
Rohr would have sent one of coaching staff to monitor the team in training and on match days.

You see the team paraded by England? They are young layers being prepared to be capped in the near future.

Those our U16 players still have a long way to go. A good number may not end up as pros.
We have jst wasted this opportunity on players we are not sure them have anything to offer.


The NFF will not disband them. The NFF showed innovation with sending this boys to this tournament. It is a long-term process. The NFF did not expect a team made of 16 and 17 years old to beat pros with players who have played in the Premier League and Champions League. It is a brilliant vision.

As for seeing Awaziem, Nwakali and Osimhen, it will bring bragging rights but these lads are exposed. We need to expose the players the NFF spent time and money discovering. We need younger players that will compete with the already exposed ones.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:47pm On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


Firstly, why it will do more harm than good is the NFF had planned to use this tourney as an early stage of preparation for the 2019 AYC/WYC qualifiers. The NFF is very likely going to disband the team if they continue loosing like this. Most of these players would definitely be axed. If these are the players we will start the 2019 AYC qualifiers with we are heading for another early exit.

See, we will continue to fail at the U20 level bc we have continued to underrate the competition at that level and also the importance of that age grade.

The U19/U20 is for players that are at the verge of breaking into the senior team. European teams dnt joke with the U19 & U21 competitions as they would want to evaluate players that are getting set to join the seniors.

Sincerely for this tourney I would have loved to see the likes of Osimhen, the Nwakali brothers, Awoniyi, Ezeh, Awaziem, Sadiq Umar, Sincere Seth, Lazarus, Nura Abdullahi, Azubuike Okechukwu, Okonkwo, Matthew, Anumudu, Yahaya among others. These players are U19 & we would have loved to see how they are progressing. They are the crop that we are looking at to complete the transition in the Super Eagles. We need to see them play in more competition to assess their readiness

The tourney was squeezed into the fifa free window so most of these players would have been available.
Rohr would have sent one of coaching staff to monitor the team in training and on match days.

You see the team paraded by England? They are young layers being prepared to be capped in the near future.

Those our U16 players still have a long way to go. A good number may not end up as pros.
We have jst wasted this opportunity on players we are not sure them have anything to offer.


These players have a long way to go but they need to start from somewhere. They are starting now.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:49pm On Nov 10, 2016
joseph1013:


Why didn't we use the appropriate boys? Using the Amuneke U20 boys would have made more sense. Look at their faces...they look U13. And you ask them to go against Ejaria and Solanke.

The way we think in this country ehn...smh


The NFF made a brilliant choice of using this tournament to promote some of our best talents. This is a big exposure to them that will stay with them for the rest of our lives. The NFF made a huge success in giving these boys a big head start.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:42pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Tell me the 19 year old you have exposed like Iwobi and Ejaria? I have not seen a youngster from the home League given a chance in the Super Eagles.

How can we expose our youngsters if not avenues like this?

If it was all about winning, we would have carried a bigger squad. This is about exposing the boys the NFF spent money and time in running a screening process.

This is very innovative and I am impressed with the NFF.

Now that they exposed themselves as bad player nko? Kill the noise Abuja fc dey send player to europe on weekly basis and u r saying we don't have players better than this bunch.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Nov 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Now that they exposed themselves as bad player nko? Kill the noise Abuja fc dey send player to europe on weekly basis and u r saying we don't have players better than this bunch.

Are you saying the 16 - 17 years players in Abuja FC will put up better performances?

The exposure is for them to gain experience. Not only to market themselves. It is a long-term project.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:15pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying the 16 - 17 years players in Abuja FC will put up better performances?

The exposure is for them to gain experience. Not only to market themselves. It is a long-term project.
i am not just saying, i can guarrantee that Abuja fc would have done far better with their 17, 18 yr olds.
we should work with the best players not best pockets. These are not the best players under the age of 19 in Nigeria, we r only cheating ourselves.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 9:24pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:



The NFF will not disband them. The NFF showed innovation with sending this boys to this tournament. It is a long-term process. The NFF did not expect a team made of 16 and 17 years old to beat pros with players who have played in the Premier League and Champions League. It is a brilliant vision.

As for seeing Awaziem, Nwakali and Osimhen, it will bring bragging rights but these lads are exposed. We need to expose the players the NFF spent time and money discovering. We need younger players that will compete with the already exposed ones.

So Solanke, Edjaria, Onomah and co are not exposed?

If the soul aim of that Nigerian team to participate in that tourney is just to give those boys exposure then that is just a big waste.

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Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 9:27pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Are you saying the 16 - 17 years players in Abuja FC will put up better performances?

The exposure is for them to gain experience. Not only to market themselves. It is a long-term project.

Those boys are not up to 17. They are 15-16yrs olds.

O what a wasted opportunity.

And did I see u use the word "experience"? I must not see u use that word.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m): 9:30pm On Nov 10, 2016
joseph1013:


Why didn't we use the appropriate boys? Using the Amuneke U20 boys would have made more sense. Look at their faces...they look U13. And you ask them to go against Ejaria and Solanke.

The way we think in this country ehn...smh

The thing tire me.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:31pm On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


So Solanke, Edjaria, Onomah and co are not exposed?

If the soul aim of that Nigerian team to participate in that tourney is just to give those boys exposure then that is just a big waste.


It is now where near a big waste. It is a huge investment. It showed foresight and forward thinking.

Solanke and Ejaria are far exposed more than our youth players. If the NFF did not use this opportunity, we stand a chance of not exposing these lads until the next WYC.

Amunike's U17 Victorious team have decent exposure. This Manu Lads got a big exposure playing top professionals. Do not put us with England. These people have 6 - 7 year old getting quality footballing education.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33pm On Nov 10, 2016
Icon4s:


Those boys are not up to 17. They are 15-16yrs olds.

O what a wasted opportunity.

And did I see u use the word "experience"? I must not see u use that word.

I said, do not say a player is more experienced than another. Tell us who is better not experience. A player uses experience to get better. If another is better, he should start. Not selecting a player because he is experienced.

We are giving this young lads the experience to get better. When it is time for selection, select the better player. Do not use a vague criteria like experience to drop a better player.

I hope you get my point.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:38pm On Nov 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:

i am not just saying, i can guarrantee that Abuja fc would have done far better with their 17, 18 yr olds.
we should work with the best players not best pockets. These are not the best players under the age of 19 in Nigeria, we r only cheating ourselves.

How are we cheating ourselves, investing in the education of a set of players our coaching crew spent months screening them out of thousands of kids in the country?

We will cheat ourselves wasting them and not invest in them becoming better players.

The NFF were amazing this time. Their foresight is ahead of many FA's.

I asked if the U17 and you are talking U18 of Abuja FC. That means you agree their 16 - 17 years players can not do it. Simple.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:25pm On Nov 10, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


How are we cheating ourselves, investing in the education of a set of players our coaching crew spent months screening them out of thousands of kids in the country?

We will cheat ourselves wasting them and not invest in them becoming better players.

The NFF were amazing this time. Their foresight is ahead of many FA's.

I asked if the U17 and you are talking U18 of Abuja FC. That means you agree their 16 - 17 years players can not do it. Simple.

it is an u19 tournament. Not only did they lose 8-1 they lost to Iran. Lets give the chances to the right people, this is like u r taking secondary school students and placing them in year 3 in university.
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by zicky(m): 10:48pm On Nov 10, 2016
Its just like sending a js 3 student to write waec in the name of exposure. Nigeria should have use their U-13 or U-10 for a more better exposure, arrant nonsense. Btw the Iran U-16 don't need exposure
Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59pm On Nov 10, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


it is an u19 tournament. Not only did they lose 8-1 they lost to Iran. Lets give the chances to the right people, this is like u r taking secondary school students and placing them in year 3 in university.

You say let us give chances then you want the NFF not give this lads chances. They have no exposure. The ones you want the NFF to play are exposed. They have played and won a World Cup at a junior level.

Simple, this was a good opportunity to expose this lads. It is another set we are raising.

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