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Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by Fadman4real(m): 10:58pm On Oct 16, 2016 |
You claim Abrahamic Religions is the problem of Nigeria, should we go back to practicing the old traditional religion of our fore fathers and be killing twins, sacrificing our children to some gods etc. or we should follow the new trend of the whites and become atheists start having dancing naked in the beach, changing our sex from male to female etc. [/b] hahn: "Why do you keep disturbing us and our beliefs?" That is what Christians and Muslims, Christians more though, always say whenever I challenge their "beliefs". As an atheist, it might make perfect sense why religion is bad but also theists can also justify why they feel their religion is the best. So, just have to this on record, I will go ahead to list exactly why I feel religion is bad for us as a nation and why it should be dumped in the trash can. 1) [b]Religious people impose their beliefs on others: And they do that with threats . "Believe in my god or you will go to hell. Believe in my god so you can become successful." What exactly gives anyone the right to go around threatening people with eternal damnation and feel it is right really baffles me. Unfortunately, we will live in a country where people do exactly that. Imagine if your parents tell you, "respect me or I will burn you up", or if as a woman a guy approaches you and says, "baby, I like you and I will like to date you. If you don't I will kill you and burn you up". This is a message of blackmail and not love. And these same people will cry "persecution" when you tell them to prove their claim Christians happily "evangelize" to people in the hospital saying "accept Jesus Christ so you do not suffer for eternity in the afterlife" but I wonder how they would feel if I, as an atheist, was to go around telling Christians about to die in hospital beds that, "remember everything your pastor told you? It is all bullshit and they have been exploiting you all your life" Would it be wrong for a parent to tell his child not to play with fire that he/she would get burnt if he tries it, the same is a christian not telling you about christ. Christians do not force you to believe them we only tell you the truth we know and pray that you change, it is not done by force and why are you so focused on the hell aspect and not the heaven that awaits you if you change your ways and follow christ. I dont see anything wrong in loving your neighbor as your self and loving God, Christ doesnt ask you to do anything that would destroy you but his laws are to make us to be a better person to the society and ourselves. The truth is that what is breaking Nigeria up as a nation is more about the love for money, we treasure money more than intelligence, loyalty etc in this country which is the reason why we are the way we are.
Why do you keep talking about hell like that is the only destination after death, there are two destinations which you have to choose from hell or heaven. The choice is in your hands, no matter how many papers you write against the concept of hell would not change the fact of its existence rather than sitting somewhere and begining to criticize God for creating hell why not look inward with humility and research about God if he truly exists and if hell exists your whinning would not change its existence. You are really funny, just like one of my friends who said Abraham and co do not exist simply because we do not have their bones. Genghis Khan that almost conquered the whole of Europe and Asia in the late 1100s bones are yet to be found despite the fact that he created a very large empire. And you want the bones of Abraham etc to be found when they existed some thousand years before Genghis was born, perhaps you wanted to see their pictures on instantgram etc. before you would belief they existed.
You are far from the truth, America was once been referred to as a christian country and that did not make them unpatriotic, the root of Nigeria's problem is that we worship wealth and not God most of the so called religious people in Nigeria are worshiping money and decieving themselves that they worship God. If there was no religion in this country this evil would still happen because of our mentality, we changed the true christianity in the bible to suit our selfish desire and love for money in this country.
I have been raising this point that the root of Nigeria's problem is not Religion but our mentality, there is no mention in the bible where Jesus or his disciples collected money from anyone. Our motivation in this country is the love of money, when Jesus talked about money he talked about giving it to the needy, those that do not have clothes etc. What is happening in churches today is not what Jesus brought about, people have changed the bible to fit themselves. In addition the image you posted asked for a verse in the bible that talked against slavery, Ignorance is definitely the greatest killer. Check this verse out in the bible. Exodus 21:16 “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death." 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 4:55am On Oct 17, 2016 |
[quote author=hahn post=50243401]"Why do you keep disturbing us and our beliefs?" That is what Christians and Muslims, Christians more though, always say whenever I challenge their "beliefs". As an atheist, it might make perfect sense why religion is bad but also theists can also justify why they feel their religion is the best. So, just have to this on record, I will go ahead to list exactly why I feel religion is bad for us as a nation and why it should be dumped in the trash can. 1) Religious people impose their beliefs on others: And they do that with threats . "Believe in my god or you will go to hell. Believe in my god so you can become successful." What exactly gives anyone the right to go around threatening people with eternal damnation and feel it is right really baffles me. Unfortunately, we will live in a country where people do exactly that. Imagine if your parents tell you, "respect me or I will burn you up", or if as a woman a guy approaches you and says, "baby, I like you and I will like to date you. If you don't I will kill you and burn you up". This is a message of blackmail and not love. And these same people will cry "persecution" when you tell them to prove their claim Christians happily "evangelize" to people in the hospital saying "accept Jesus Christ so you do not suffer for eternity in the afterlife" but I wonder how they would feel if I, as an atheist, was to go around telling Christians about to die in hospital beds that, "remember everything your pastor told you? It is all bullshit and they have been exploiting you all your life" 2) Religion divides us: It is not enough that, as Africans, we are divided into thousands of tribal groups and villages but we now have to add the religious divide to it. Christians have over 30,000 denominations and Muslims are also divided into Sunnis and Shiites. The recent killings of Muslims going on in the North is as a result of this division and is proof of what I mean. As a nation, we will never be able to unite and stand as a voice or for any cause based on this reason. Whenever there is a political campaign, our politicians happily bring up religion to fool the people. The Christian/Muslim or Muslim/Christian proposal tag team is way more important to Nigerians than the credibility, integrity, the vision and potential of the candidates and merit is word that is alien to us. Even when you want to get a job, your religious beliefs, in some cases, determines if you will get it or not. Are you Mulsim or Christian? What church do you attend? What parish do you attend? These questions are way more important than, "can you execute the job efficiently?" in some cases. 3) It appeals to our meanness and our selfishness: So, you happen to be in a bus with 24 passengers and you get in an accident and everyone else dies but you survive. After treatment, you head to church to give a "testimony" on how your god protected you and everyone sings "praise the lord". No one cares about the people that have died. Some people will even brag that "my god is a living god". So, even despite the fact that god allegedly created all of us, we are happy that it seems to favor some of us over other. Lots of theists will happily tell you that as a non-believer you will go to hell and burn in eternity. The concept of hell is quite broad as not only will "unbelievers" go to hell but other people who do not believe in your particular version of god will also go to hell. In fact, over 80% of Christians and Muslims will go to hell because the guidelines to even qualify for heaven are not only ridiculous but also quite impossible to attain. Read your holy book properly to understand this. The idea of an all-loving entity comfortable with burning humans for eternity is not bad enough, it is savage, cruel and condescending that, as humans, we love the idea and are actually looking forward to the day we will say "told you so!" and laugh while we watch billions of people burn in hell as we sing boring hymns for eternity. 4) Their claims are unverifiable and contradictory: Christians say that Jesus is the way while Muslims say Allah is the way. Aside from the fact that they cannot prove that either of these gods even exists, isn't it ridiculous that we have a Muslim president and a Christian vice president? Is no one concerned that one of them will burn in hell forever? I am derailing. None of the characters in the bible existed outside of the bible. They are all fairytales. Jesus, Solomon, David, heaven, hell etc never existed and there are no tangible evidence for their existences. Islam is not better. So, god appeared to Mohammed the illiterate war lord and serial pedophile and decided to place all of humanity's faith on the message delivered in Arabic. And the angel Gabriel also speaks Arabic is utter bs. None of these things are verifiable. We are all required to "believe". Seriously, if someone told you to believe that there is a house somewhere and asks you to pay for it without seeing it and just believe you now have a house, won't you punch the person in the face for taking you for a mugu? But for our religious folks, the promise of an afterlife that has never been proven to exist is a cool ideology to believe in. As regards contradictions, I will leave you to read your holy book for once to figure that out for yourself. 5) It makes us unpatriotic: Christians happily declare themselves to be children of Israel and Muslims will claim that Mecca is the holy land. Apparently, none of these people feel that Nigeria is even worth it and still complain when the immigration in other countries disrespect us when they see our pa Clown. your ingnorance is beyond comprehension. You write in English and use the internet all products of christain civilization and you still.have the mouth to post this trash. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:01am On Oct 17, 2016 |
You know a fool by their Works. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:05am On Oct 17, 2016 |
ValentineMary: See what makes people dumb. www.nairaland.com/3375036/christanity-blessing-africa |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:13am On Oct 17, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Is Okija Shrine and other corruption issues in Nigeria also Abrahamic religeon? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:22am On Oct 17, 2016 |
SalomonKane: All this existed in Africa and this entity called Nigeria before Christainity came to Africa. Stop blaming Africa's failure on Christainity. www.nairaland.com/3375036/christanity-blessing-africa |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:24am On Oct 17, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Stop sounding like a kid. if Nigerians were obessed about Heaven there will not be corruption or killing. becos nothing unclean will enter their. Nigerians are mentally lazy. our problem is our IQ not religeon. Let me ask this dudes prior to the advent of christainity in Nigeria. what legacy and mutinational companies did Nigeria create? If we have made any progress at all it was after the introduction of Christainity. www.nairaland.com/3375036/christanity-blessing-africa 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:25am On Oct 17, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: Naive. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by felixomor: 5:38am On Oct 17, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Well said, honestly! |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:40am On Oct 17, 2016 |
kilo4sure: Do you expect someone with this Obvious low IQ to comprehend that? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by felixomor: 5:40am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent: Please sound it louder for the mumus who call themselves atheists that are pretending to reason. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:43am On Oct 17, 2016 |
plaetton: And still yet virtually all of the world inventions and scientific acheivements where done by Christains? Get sense. i have added a link already for you. get sense apps. www.getandinstallsense.com |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:45am On Oct 17, 2016 |
Sammy07: Sure as planned by Atheists(Satanists) who invented Communislim and Atheism to decieve and enslave gulliable people like U. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:49am On Oct 17, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Lie. Italians have high living standard same with Qatar,Saudi,Kuwait,US,Europe but they are still religeous. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:50am On Oct 17, 2016 |
seankay: Not every open eye can see and not every Sound mind can reason.thats Obvious. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by felixomor: 5:54am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent: In addition, the oil rich gulf countries are super wealthy and they are also highly religious. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:57am On Oct 17, 2016 |
plaetton: The Question is all the Nigerian Ahiests what have they done for Nigeria? Last time i checked most Nigerian owned companies and business were founded and owned by religeous people. Dangote,Globacom,Banks in Nigeria,Capital oil,BUA, Ibeto,Genesis fastfoods,Visa phone , and so on. the list is endless .if religeon did not stop this ones. then Athiest check yourselves you are your own failure not Christains. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 5:59am On Oct 17, 2016 |
felixomor: I wonder. the funny thing is that if Nigerians sincerly pratice Christainity, Nigeria will be very Successful. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by felixomor: 6:00am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent: Well well, my brother. I concur |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 6:01am On Oct 17, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Clown, The Bible promotes or encourages people to work hard and be creative. Proverbs 13:4 - The soul of the sluggard desireth, and [hath] nothing: but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat. Colossians 3:23 - And whatsoever ye do, do [it] heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 2 Thessalonians 3:10 - For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. Proverbs 10:4 - He becometh poor that dealeth [with] a slack hand: but the hand of the diligent maketh rich. Proverbs 18:9 - He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster. 1 Timothy 5:8 - But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. Proverbs 21:25 - The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour. Proverbs 20:4 - The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; [therefore] shall he beg in harvest, and [have] nothing. Proverbs 24:30-34 - I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding; (Read More...) Proverbs 20:13 - Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open thine eyes, [and] thou shalt be satisfied with bread. Proverbs 19:15 - Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger. John 5:17 - But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Proverbs 6:6 - Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Proverbs 12:24 - The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by Ranchhoddas: 6:09am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent:As religious as Nigerians?? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 6:18am On Oct 17, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Ask yourselves were muslims go for pilgrimage. and were the Vatican is located. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by Ranchhoddas: 6:19am On Oct 17, 2016 |
felixomor:SMH |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by Ranchhoddas: 6:21am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent:Na wa for you. Is that what I asked you? Where do Christians go for pilgrimage? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by felixomor: 6:53am On Oct 17, 2016 |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by SalomonKane: 7:23am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent:Really? Care to sight a few example? 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by raphieMontella: 7:58am On Oct 17, 2016 |
[quote author=blueAgent post=50264154][/quote]
you mean the internet is a product of christians?
Can you please prove this? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by raphieMontella: 7:59am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent:the bolded...please prove it.. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 8:26am On Oct 17, 2016 |
SalomonKane: click the link i gave you. read and understand. |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 8:32am On Oct 17, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: You asked me if, they were as religious like Nigeria and i asked you to fellow the pilgrimage.if those places i mentioned were not religeous they would not be hosting pilgrims I thought you Atheists had High IQ to understand diff. concepts of communications? |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by Ranchhoddas: 8:35am On Oct 17, 2016 |
blueAgent:Anyone who disagrees with you on an issue is an atheist. I can see how high your IQ is. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why The Abrahamic Religions (Islam and Christianity) are bad for Nigeria by blueAgent(m): 8:42am On Oct 17, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Last time i checked US still had over 78% religeous. by 1965 they had over 80%. Internet was invented by Christains in a christain nation. by the way are there countries with @least 25% Apetheists. www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html |
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