winner01:
What is your bad side

How old are these people

Hey Grandpa Methuselah, age is not maturity cos it obvious u av none. It is not surprising given that u are a troll

winner01:
Another source of conviction in the existence of God, connected with the reason and not with the feelings, impresses me as having much more weight. This follows from the extreme difficulty or rather impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe, including man with his capability of looking far backwards or far into futurity, as a result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting, I feel compelled to look to a first cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called a theist. - Charles Darwin (The life of Charles Darwin (1902). p60.)



God created us fearfully and wonderfully. Despite the fact that some humans do not accept that all of nature was intentionally designed, we continue to be witnesses to such creative genius and intrinsic design in Nature.
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God showed His creative ability when He created us (humans) in His image and ever since, we have been striving to imitate God in almost everything, exhibiting creative power, showing emotions, exerting authority and assuming control over our respective niches.

Man has a wide range of unlimited abilities and I believe he has only scratched the surface of technological advancement.
Man's level of intelligence and creativity is so unimaginable that it has left majority of humans in awe of the mighty power of a Creator who could give rise to such creative beings.
Many of these beings are naturally intelligent that the full cycle of school has sometimes proven to be a hindrance to the explosion of their creativity. As a matter of fact, most of the brightest minds, inventors and innovators either did not go to school or did not complete the full cycle of school.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4405070_img20160705181335edit_jpeg38c7b6d18f2ca525d45fb6b9ddc950af Non academic genius is not restricted to humans alone.
This might be proof that man needs to look inwards and exploit his God given gifts.


It is also worthy to mention that a minority of humans chose to deny that design is evident in Nature, instead they attribute beauty to a prolonged combination of time, natural materials and chance thereby removing the (Personal) Creator God from the picture.
Personal because of the ability to make choices. God chose to create the universe.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4405015_s18300593edit_jpege1f7afe88a869848f640d50b80909241
It is not surprising that some humans think this way. About 4000 years ago, King David described the denial of Gods existence as:
- Foolishness (Psalm 14:1)(because of the compelling evidence of obvious design) and
- Pride (Psalm 10:4)(because of the pursuit of ones lustful desires).

Pride is one of the major problems of man. It has been the cause of major wars, violence and the dark eras of history. Pride clouds the natural emphatic thought process of man. www.nairaland.com/attachments/4405140_s3682225edit_jpeg91c960b33c8bbed6236aa2503051e386
Whenever man eventually opens his eyes to the results of his pride (such as poverty and starvation), he still blames God for it in arrogance and anger.
However in reality, God has created a world which can provide for man's needs, man still wants to satisfy his greed.
Pride makes its difficult for man to love his neighbour as himself (as commanded by Jesus) and submit to authorities, both man-made and God.

The height of pride is to reject the existence of ones Creator.
The acknowledgment of the creator God basically demands that man lives according to God's will and remain accountable to Him. This places a restriction on the evil desires of man.
However, like a child who feels he has outgrown his parents restrictions, like a child who believes his parents are nothing but stupid old people, like a child who wishes his parents were never alive to guide him, the atheist seeks to impeach God and replace him with any of his creations, any at all (Anything but God)(Romans 1:25).

Yes, atheists may live as normal as any other christian or even better. Their lives may be free of challenges like any other human. (Matthew 5:45). It may seem as if there is no reason to believe in God.

A similar scenario was illustrated in the movie God's not dead where a successful atheist exchanged words with a deeply religious old lady. Their conversation went thus:

Mark (atheist): "You prayed and believed your whole life. Never done anything wrong. And here you are. You're the nicest person I know. I am the meanest. You have dementia. My life is perfect. Explain that to me!"
Mina's Mother: "Sometimes the devil allows people to live a life free of trouble because he doesn't want them turning to God. Their sin is like a jail cell accepted, except it is all nice and comfy and there doesn't seem to be any reason to leave. The door's wide open. Till one day, time runs out, and the cell door slams shut, and suddenly it's too late."
www.nairaland.com/attachments/4405038_s19085465edit_jpeg42df71ab3236aa9d7efd7f0d471d8882 Pride distances man from God, launches man into the territory of the enemy and gives the illusion of freedom.

Mina's mother is right. Its all vanity. As William Shakespeare wrote: "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more"
Virginia Woolf even shoots more directly: "In any case life is but a procession of shadows, and God knows why it is that we embrace them so eagerly, and see them depart with such anguish, being shadows."



Atheists may even go further than just disbelieving, to spend the only life they have to invest their time and money relentlessly to lead people away from the gospel (as evident on Nairaland).
In extreme cases, they may push to annhilate religious folks to limit the spread of "superstitions" as acted out by several atheistic communist countries, terror groups such as the League of militant atheists and individual violent parades.

These collective actions goes to show however that it is difficult to completely lack a belief in God (I mean totally), it is much easier to suppress the truth and live a lie. It is much easier to spend enormous amounts of time and energy trying to convince oneself and other people daily that God really does not exist.

It simply goes to show that God has impressed this fact in our hearts. It's why this subject is heavy on the heart of every human (atheists and theists alike) whether they chose to accept it or not.
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If you are an unbeliever reading this, and is not sure on which God i'm talking about out of the 5000+ gods, well, you owe it to yourself to do your own research, to find out the truth irregardless of what you've heard or been taught.
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Today, we demand that Jesus expresses Himself in our midst when in actuality we have never been as distant from Him as now. Why not humble your heart and seek God in truth and sincerity.
It does not matter if you were born into a christian family or not. You need to do your own independent research to know who Jesus really is.

It also does not matter what you have done, it does not matter what evil has happened. Jesus Christ is waiting with his out stretched arms to welcome you back.
Jesus Christ loves you, died for your sins and has provided a solution to the bridge between man and God caused by the devil.
Indeed, only the lamb of God could take upon the sins of the world, conquer death and seize the keys to the gates of hell.
Hallelujah!!!, Man now has a way out and it remains a choice as God will not take the priviledge of freewill from man. Man can either accept or reject this wonderful offering from God.
There are consequences for our every decision, and the decisionwe make concerning this matter is no different.
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The Good news is Jesus Christ's free gift of salvation. Accept him today and flow the life of God out to other people.

God bless you.

The God idea, though personified, it lacks any trace of good human attributes.

God idea, as described in the religious text, is HATRED personified (all forms of heinous atrocities known).

Those who created God, but conflicted themselves by claiming God created them, are the ones who wholly converge their HATES, in the God idea they created.

Love is inexistent in the character of the God idea.

akintom:



The God idea, though personified, it lacks any trace of good human attributes.

God idea, as described in the religious text, is HATRED personified (all forms of heinous atrocities known).

Those who created God, but conflicted themselves by claiming God created them, are the ones who wholly converge their HATES, in the God idea they created.

Love is inexistent in the character of the God idea.

OK.
lol.

When Abraham heard a voice in his head ordering him to perform a human sacrifice of his own son, How did he know that it was God? By what criteria did he arrive at that conclusion? Because he said he was God? Couldn't he have been the Devil? Is Satan not the Father of lies? "If he says he's God, then he IS God!"; was that the logic Abraham applied? How the heck could he have known who it was?

WHO IS GOD? Is he Yahweh? I think not. Kindly peruse perspicaciously, Deuteronomy 7:1-6, and cogitate over it.

Nowhere else in human history is the story told of a universal God promising a certain tribe a specific piece of land, already occupied by others, and helping them to wipe out the inhabitants in his name. It is the maddest of all mad ideas, the quitessence of evil. You Christian fellas are saying that you see nothing wrong at all with the God of the cosmos colluding with a nomadic tribe to violently steal a land and exterminate those who live there. What was the Nazi policy of lebensraum (living space)? - to steal the land that belongs to others in the name of God (the Fuehrer) and the Chosen People (Master Race) and annihilate all the Canaanites ("sub-humans" who lived there.

If you condemn the Nazis, why aren't you condemning the Jews (and their God), you hypocritical, moronic cunts? Is extermination OK when "God" orders it, but not when a Fuehrer orders it? Is that what your "moral" compass tells you? Are the actions of God ALWAYS moral even when he is butchering babies, old men and women, and even the unborn?

Does morality have anything to do with God? You accept God as the ultimate judge of morality. And that's because you define him as all knowing, all seeing and infinitely good. In other words, the definition of God excludes the possibility that he could do any evil. However, if a divinely sanctioned Holocaust is the product of belief in an infinitely good God, wouldn't the world be better off if people stopped believing in such a God?! (Since the believers are effectively telling us that they'll do the same following the example of Abraham if a voice in their head claiming to be God tells them to, making them extremely dangerous lunatics.)

The central problem with you guys is that you chose to define as "God" a being that was immoral and evil. You then defined this wicked "God" as morally perfect. So, the immoral and evil actions of God had perforce to be reinterpreted as morally perfect to satisfy the definition of God. But once you have defined immorality and evil as morally perfect, mehn, you have entered the madhouse. You had the choice of defining acttions as moral or immoral or of defining a cosmic being as moral or immoral. You chose to define "God" as moral. Once that definition is in place, you never once asked whether God's actions were moral or immoral. By definition, they had to be moral even though they self-evidently weren't.

We can look at an average human being and see that they perform some moral actions and some immoral ones i.e people are sometimes moral and sometimes not. No one has any difficulty with this analysis. But imagine that Adolf Hitler were defined as someone who could perform ONLY moral actions and no immoral actions at all. Then all of the evil actions he performed would have to be reinterpreted as moral. That, in effect, was what happened with Yahweh. His legion actions of evil were simply reinterpreted as good because that was necessary in order to maintain the fiction that God was God.

Anyone who says that ANY of Yahweh's actions is immoral is saying that HE IS NOT GOD. So, EVERY action of Yahweh is "right" and must be defended. So genocide, rape, holocaust, murder, human sacrifice, theft, pillage, extermination..... these are all morally correct PROVIDED that God orders them because, of course, God can give no immoral order by definition. Do you see what a work of satanic genius this is? Yahweh was able to have his acts of absolute evil called "good". Billions of human beings worship him. And all because these people were irrational, illogical and incapable of concluding that actions are either moral or immoral no matter who performs them. If God performs any immoral action whatever then he is instantly exposed as not God. You people however chose to conclude that an immoral action couldn't be immoral if God performed it. So, if Hitler orders the Holocaust then that is the most evil act in human history, and no one will ever shut up about it. If, however, Yahweh orders the Holocaust then it is just, good and his victims completely deserved it, and anyone who says otherwise should be exterminated (or as it is now, would be consigned to Hell. MY WAY or HELL!! is the message of unadulterated terrorism). And everyone shuts up and never talks about it ever again.

What? You guys are FVCKING MAD hollow people completely removed from the world of reason.

And can someone tell me HOW Matthew knew the details of Jesus' birth? How did he know? He wasn't a witness, was he? Who told him? Is his source reliable? Isn't it all just hearsay?

If Pilate and Jesus had a private conversation hours before Jesus' death, how can anyone other than those two possibly know what they said?

How can anyone know what took place between Judas and the chief priest? This is complete fiction!

How would anyone know what message pilate's wife sent to him?

The kind of narrations found all over the New Testament readily lend themselves to fabrication and fantasy. It's all bunk.

AquaCancerian:
When Abraham heard a voice in his head ordering him to perform a human sacrifice of his own son, How did he know that it was God? By what criteria did he arrive at that conclusion? Because he said he was God? Couldn't he have been the Devil? Is Satan not the Father of lies? "If he says he's God, then he IS God!"; was that the logic Abraham applied? How the heck could he have known who it was?

WHO IS GOD? Is he Yahweh? I think not. Kindly peruse perspicaciously, Deuteronomy 7:1-6, and cogitate over it.

Nowhere else in human history is the story told of a universal God promising a certain tribe a specific piece of land, already occupied by others, and helping them to wipe out the inhabitants in his name. It is the maddest of all mad ideas, the quitessence of evil. You Christian fellas are saying that you see nothing wrong at all with the God of the cosmos colluding with a nomadic tribe to violently steal a land and exterminate those who live there. What was the Nazi policy of lebensraum (living space)? - to steal the land that belongs to others in the name of God (the Fuehrer) and the Chosen People (Master Race) and annihilate all the Canaanites ("sub-humans" who lived there.

If you condemn the Nazis, why aren't you condemning the Jews (and their God), you hypocritical, moronic cunts? Is extermination OK when "God" orders it, but not when a Fuehrer orders it? Is that what your "moral" compass tells you? Are the actions of God ALWAYS moral even when he is butchering babies, old men and women, and even the unborn?

Does morality have anything to do with God? You accept God as the ultimate judge of morality. And that's because you define him as all knowing, all seeing and infinitely good. In other words, the definition of God excludes the possibility that he could do any evil. However, if a divinely sanctioned Holocaust is the product of belief in an infinitely good God, wouldn't the world be better off if people stopped believing in such a God?! (Since the believers are effectively telling us that they'll do the same following the example of Abraham if a voice in their head claiming to be God tells them to, making them extremely dangerous lunatics.)

The central problem with you guys is that you chose to define as "God" a being that was immoral and evil. You then defined this wicked "God" as morally perfect. So, the immoral and evil actions of God had perforce to be reinterpreted as morally perfect to satisfy the definition of God. But once you have defined immorality and evil as morally perfect, mehn, you have entered the madhouse. You had the choice of defining acttions as moral or immoral or of defining a cosmic being as moral or immoral. You chose to define "God" as moral. Once that definition is in place, you never once asked whether God's actions were moral or immoral. By definition, they had to be moral even though they self-evidently weren't.

We can look at an average human being and see that they perform some moral actions and some immoral ones i.e people are sometimes moral and sometimes not. No one has any difficulty with this analysis. But imagine that Adolf Hitler were defined as someone who could perform ONLY moral actions and no immoral actions at all. Then all of the evil actions he performed would have to be reinterpreted as moral. That, in effect, was what happened with Yahweh. His legion actions of evil were simply reinterpreted as good because that was necessary in order to maintain the fiction that God was God.

Anyone who says that ANY of Yahweh's actions is immoral is saying that HE IS NOT GOD. So, EVERY action of Yahweh is "right" and must be defended. So genocide, rape, holocaust, murder, human sacrifice, theft, pillage, extermination..... these are all morally correct PROVIDED that God orders them because, of course, God can give no immoral order by definition. Do you see what a work of satanic genius this is? Yahweh was able to have his acts of absolute evil called "good". Billions of human beings worship him. And all because these people were irrational, illogical and incapable of concluding that actions are either moral or immoral no matter who performs them. If God performs any immoral action whatever then he is instantly exposed as not God. You people however chose to conclude that an immoral action couldn't be immoral if God performed it. So, if Hitler orders the Holocaust then that is the most evil act in human history, and no one will ever shut up about it. If, however, Yahweh orders the Holocaust then it is just, good and his victims completely deserved it, and anyone who says otherwise should be exterminated (or as it is now, would be consigned to Hell. MY WAY or HELL!! is the message of unadulterated terrorism). And everyone shuts up and never talks about it ever again.

What? You guys are FVCKING MAD hollow people completely removed from the world of reason.

Someone who justifies the extremely horrific evils of God idea, is just but a case of clinical deluded mind.

There's no way a decent society can give uncontained freedom to such folks.

theoneJabulani:
Hey Grandpa Methuselah, age is not maturity cos it obvious u av none. It is not surprising given that u are a troll

With age comes wisdom, hethinks. Someone needs to teach him that, sometimes, age comes ALONE.

akintom:


Those who created God, but conflicted themselves by claiming God created them, are the ones who wholly converge their HATES, in the God idea they created.

Love is inexistent in the character of the God idea.

Look at it this way.

God, being all-loving, will do everything in His power to eradicate Evil.

This obviously includes the destruction of Evil and its sources.

This explains Hell and Suffering.

gaelllic:


Look at it this way.

God, being all-loving, will do everything in His power to eradicate Evil.

This obviously includes the destruction of Evil and its sources.

This explains Hell and Suffering.

Love is non-existent in God idea. For theists, is just an eternal groping in darkness.