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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by heavenangels(f): 9:59am On Jun 20, 2017
silverchi:
Gooday house, My visa expires on the 2nd week of September bt my return ticket is for 1st week of October.
GTBANK is refusing to sell PTA to me because my return date is after my ticket expires

Pls what do you advise a sister?
I will advise you go to another bank or another gtbank branch.
One thing I know about this banks are they operate on different set of rules... talk to your account officer, have them show you CBN rules on BTA and visa.... this banks can claim Judge and executioner sometimes...

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by debby516(f): 10:29am On Jun 20, 2017
As at this morning in Lagos, black market is 362. Save urself d stress and leave GTB.
silverchi:
Gooday house, My visa expires on the 2nd week of September bt my return ticket is for 1st week of October.
GTBANK is refusing to sell PTA to me because my return date is after my ticket expires

Pls what do you advise a sister?

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by chibertha(f): 11:00am On Jun 20, 2017
This is exactly what did I got my third multiple entry visa used it 4 times before childbirth. But I still went ahead to notify the embassy thus;-
"Dear consulate officer,
I have a b1/b2( no.000000), I have also visited the states 4 times with the said visa, however I wish to go in Dec to put to birth in Houston Tx. Do I make an appointment for another visa?
Please advice."

And I got the normal response.
Mind you I didn't even know of this thread when all these transpired
it was a colleague in the office that adviced I did so. He said it was what his sister did.
I just didn't want issues at all.

I believe this answers your question.

lami88:



What if you got your visa for visiting and used it for that purpose, in fact multiple times, and got pregnant almost a year later. Would you still need to reapply for another visa interview?

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by freshdad: 11:12am On Jun 20, 2017
Oga Twoods of life.... I hail thee. see analysis. I think the major problem with "US" as Nigerians is we do not want to do any research. Just before DW travelled alot of people were making so much noise on whether she'd be granted access into the US cos she's pregnant and all.
I always just shut them up with " we got the visa for that purpose".

So please my people, data is cheap. Let's try and inquire before setting out on these paths. A simple google search of "is it legal to birth in the US" would have saved you from these regular lines here.
TWoods:


Ok first off, can we leave the clearly false "to God be the glory" out of this? God is not a respecter of fraudulent persons.

Your story is way too convenient:
1. You had your interview May 26, for a vacation in June... if this were true, you must have had travel plans already at advanced stages of planning, including where to stay, costs of flight tickets etc.
2. How is it that duty called so quickly and you've cancelled "vacation plans" within 2 weeks of obtaining the visa? So clearly there was never any intention of a vacation in June.
3. Your wife discovered she was pregnant a mere week after the visa interview and your "vacation" is now planned for January. By my calculation, your new "vacation" date is exactly around the time your wife would be about ready to have her baby. How convenient!

Sorry but your story sounds all too familiar, Nigerians who think they can basically pull the wool over the eyes of everyone, while claiming "God's glory".

Have no sleepless nights... the deed is done. Most likely the CBP officer will not deny you entry so go and have the baby as planned. More likely the biggest issue you will face is that your renewal visa will be denied, as it should.

Good luck.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Reine22: 12:53pm On Jun 20, 2017
sparkle1515

Escorted to secondary inspection
I was there for 5 good hours*no exaggerations here*no questioning until i was finally called..asked for my Hosp correspondence..finally said,mAke sure you have all your receipts for next time purposes

Morals:when people say some POes aint easy and someone convincingly says they aint like Nigeria bla bla except u a fraud or lied in ur app thats when you gonna be interrogated so bad,saying its only people who fraud thats thinks some poes are better than the others.Aint nothing shady about me yet i was held with no remorse whatsoever
Again,stop assuming for the vos or cbps..you aint inside of them..[/quote]


You were held for 5 hours, no interrogation? That strikes me as odd.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Reine22: 1:33pm On Jun 20, 2017
I've been following this debate about sending a letter of intent. My question is, why do people assume the hurdle to qualify for a visit visa is any different from that for the purpose of childbirth? If one could afford to pay for childbirth prior to the application, doesn't that put one in a better standing at the interview?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by abujaniv: 1:36pm On Jun 20, 2017
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by debby516(f): 2:04pm On Jun 20, 2017
Gbam.
abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is an informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by jesufifunmi: 2:36pm On Jun 20, 2017
abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.
For the sake of posterity.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by firsttymum(f): 2:49pm On Jun 20, 2017
#dropsmic

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by nefertitiram: 3:09pm On Jun 20, 2017
chibertha:
This is exactly what did I got my third multiple entry visa used it 4 times before childbirth. But I still went ahead to notify the embassy thus;-
"Dear consulate officer,
I have a b1/b2( no.000000), I have also visited the states 4 times with the said visa, however I wish to go in Dec to put to birth in Houston Tx. Do I make an appointment for another visa?
Please advice."

And I got the normal response.
Mind you I didn't even know of this thread when all these transpired
it was a colleague in the office that adviced I did so. He said it was what his sister did.
I just didn't want issues at all.

I believe this answers your question.

.

4 times with the said visa oh boy!.. Na your type US de find . I'm loyal ma. Anything for the girls ? grin
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by nefertitiram: 3:14pm On Jun 20, 2017
Now that this matter has been cleared by the original visa officers, corroborating the points of the pseudo/wannabe/keyboard visa officers like us, let's move on to other important issues.

JW please epp us put the VOs message on page 0 for easy reference.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Flowers: 3:15pm On Jun 20, 2017
Reine22:
sparkle1515

Escorted to secondary inspection
I was there for 5 good hours*no exaggerations here*no questioning until i was finally called..asked for my Hosp correspondence..finally said,mAke sure you have all your receipts for next time purposes

You were held for 5 hours, no interrogation? That strikes me as odd.



Not odd because the same thing happened to me too. I was so angry that day because the question that was asked was do you have doctors correspondence and how much do you have with you?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by TWoods(m): 3:34pm On Jun 20, 2017
abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel.
What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.

I shall await the apologies. cheesy

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by mimimum: 3:42pm On Jun 20, 2017
QED.

abujaniv:
Hello. We don’t normally post in this thread, but it seemed worthwhile to drop in and correct some misconceptions. We say this a lot, but it bears repeating: Birth tourism is legal in the US provided the applicant is open about their intention and pays the medical expenses in full. This means that the applicant should declare any such intention they have at the Embassy/Consulate and again at the port of entry.

If it happens that the applicant gets pregnant well after the initial visa interview, they will have the opportunity to make their intention, medical preparations and financial resources known at the POE. However, it will remain up to Customs and Border Patrol whether to allow that applicant into the country. Some are not, and they are put on the next flight home. This must be extremely uncomfortable for a heavily pregnant person, to spend 15-20 hours on a flight to America, several more hours being questioned, then another 15-20 hours on a plane home. This is what we want to avoid.

Onto some other misconceptions:
The concept of the “change of intent” letter is not valid. These e-mails are not read nor correlated with the applicant’s file. Some people who send such letters may get a form letter in response, but it is informational in nature and in no way confers permission to amend the declared purpose of travel. What matters is what you declare at the Embassy/Consulate and at the POE. After the fact e-mails do not carry any weight.

Some applicants say, “I applied for only the B2 visa to declare my medical intent.” The B1/B2 visa categories are conjoined, so applying for only one does not make any difference. Other applicants say, “I appeared at the window with a big belly,” as if this alone is enough to declare their medical intent. Again, the responsibility is on the applicant to be honest about what they plan to do in the US.

Other considerations:
Medical care is expensive in the US, and costs can escalate dramatically if there are complications.
Credibility is paramount in the US visa process. If visa officers detect any deception or obfuscation, no amount of excuses, documents or receipts will make up for the loss of credibility.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by justwise(m): 3:42pm On Jun 20, 2017
nefertitiram:
Now that this matter has been cleared by the original visa officers, corroborating the points of the pseudo/wannabe/keyboard visa officers like us, let's move on to other important issues.

JW please epp us put the VOs message on page 0 for easy reference.


Done

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by justwise(m): 3:43pm On Jun 20, 2017
TWoods:


I shall await the apologies. cheesy


Dream on grin

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by obaalasepe: 4:28pm On Jun 20, 2017
Good day everyone. I have learnt a lot from this group. Please have anyone book on cheapflight.com ?Please I need you to put me through because I don't have a dollar or pounds at the moment.
Thanks
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Cuteaidomo: 6:08pm On Jun 20, 2017
July/August elpaso mums kindly holly please....thnx
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Mandex11: 6:43pm On Jun 20, 2017
El paso mama here also july/August kiss
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by zeeoyin: 10:29pm On Jun 20, 2017
Hi @Baeboss

Could you please help with the visa on arrival? I just visited the NIS website and tried completing the online application but the only option i can get is to apply as a business investor. Was this the same form you filled? if not, could you please provide the link to the form you completed for the online application. I have also sent you a PM.

Thanks



baeboss:


Print the letters from immigration and show the airline that's all. From my personal experience, no "officer at the airport" checked or stopped Me for not having a visa on my baby's passport.
Anyway even if they tried to stop me, I would have shown them the letters from immigration and the correspondence email to prove that i applied and my application was granted.

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