@ HopefulLandlord and the rest my question is directed to the demind- the OP. It will let me understand her.
I too could say my religion is not Christianity. Sometimes words have different meanings to different people. When she said " love your neighbour as yourself " she was still quoting Jesus.

If she denies the death and resurrection of Jesus or says Jesus is not Lord then that's something else. If she has ever been a Christian in the Bible sense and says those- she will know something goes dead or numb in her because we are not following carefully devised fables. God Himself by His Spirit witnesses with our own spirits that we are children of God. Anyone who argues it has not experienced it or is paying attention to the body and not to what happens deep down in his or her heart.

sonmvayina:


really why dont you write it down so we can update the bible with it...please ask him/her how we can get out of this recession..and if it is good to invest in MMM...Thank you..please upload the voice or video message..

It's an assumption that if God speaks His voice can be recorded. There are other sounds in nature that other animals naturally pick but it took us several centuries of scientific sophistication to pick. We were the ones not picking the sounds all along.
People who are not directly hit by bomb can still be killed by the sound waves generated that is beyond the limits of our ears to pick.

About MMM, if God tells someone something, it is in that person's interest. His or her case may be different from yours. For example, I have wanted to play the "Who wants to be a millionaire" home play before and God tells me not to. I won't go on the street to tell everyone not to. It's personal.

HOWEVER GOD IS REAL AND HE SPEAKS TO US. HE CAN SPEAK TO YOU TOO- IN FACT HE DOES, BUT RARELY IN AUDIBLE VOICE.

[size=14pt]Other Examples of God Speaking To Me[/size]

- I was in an executive meeting and the M.D. was talking about opening another branch somewhere and sending one of the staffs to handle the place. God lets me know that will be a wrong move and I tried to persuade the man not to make the move but he was so confident (I too didn't tell him God said so anyway). Well he ended up losing both the staff and all the investment in the branch.

- I thought my spouse would have someone she would marry already when I met her. God told me I was wrong and she later confirmed it.

- Someone had prayed that he wanted a divine confirmation of the course he would study to be sure and that God should use me for this (I won't advise anyone doing that anyway). It was computer science he was considering but just wanted to be sure. Immediately we met I "saw" COMPUTER SCIENCE written across his forehead before I knew why he came. That was wasn't what I cooked up.

- Someone went for a job interview and it looked very bad plus initially she was not interested (people have said the CEO of the company is wicked). Well, I told her what God told me when I asked about it: 1. She will be employed 2. It will be for her training to learn how to run a similar company and it will be a rigorous training.
SURE ENOUGH, she was employed and within 3 months (before six month when she was to be confirmed) she was promoted to head all the branches and to represent the CEO which led to her training to handle things only the CEO normally handles. The company is currently in her care under the CEOs watch.

... and so on. What you choose to believe can either help or limit you. God is real and He is my Advantage.

Tiffbuxas:
I don't get you.... this guy just shifted from Christianity..... so wish one are u praising his twisted insight which I believe is an inspired error

Its not strange. Tares are to act as wheat until the time of bearing fruits. It is in fruit bearing that we know.

His fruit is showing. Believe me most of what he wrote up there are lies.

alBHAGDADI:
This one doesn't believe God exists, yet he troubles himself about a non-existing God.

use your MB to download porn

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Thank you for that.

benzics:
Welcome back to reality sweetheart... For you have broken the chains of religion.. don't let anyone tell you otherwise, religion is for unreasonable set of people, people who don't think.. But finally you are back dear.. Enjoy your life

Am sure you don't even know what religion is. You just hear people say it.

Emmanystone:

Am sure you don't even know what religion is. You just hear people say it.

I was an alter server in the catholic church, I was a Bible teacher in watchman.. I don't think you know religion more than I do, you won't know how senseless you are until you break free from religion, go and read your Bible, page to page, read it with sense, and you yourself will see how brainwashed you've been

darbeelicous:
ive heard from him though, I don't know about you....... I hear from him everyday through his word.

tell me about him please.

hopefulLandlord:


Jesus was the bastard son of an acclaimed virgin whose mother used hypnotic powers to delude Joseph who is a responsible carpenter into thinking he met god and god told him to accept Mary and her unborn child

this child was named Jesus and his mother kept calling him son of god and this child deluded himself into believing it, he went around gathering 12 people who shared in his delusions

this made him talk anyhow and criticise anyone even destroying people's market one day

his village people grew tired of his antics so decided to beat the crap out of him and hung him on the cross like they do common thieves in those days, he realised his folly and quickly asked god why he forsook him and even told his imaginary father to make the cup pass over him, his other disciples stole his body, claimed he rose from the dead and flew to heaven; even his mother that authored the delusion didn't see him

there are deluded people who believed this man died for their misdemeanors, they pray to this dead man everyday and cover themselves with the blood of this man

these people call themselves "Christians"

please what movie is this? your summary kindled my interest i suggest you should post this summary on imdb.com.

PDBonline:


It's an assumption that if God speaks His voice can be recorded. There are other sounds in nature that other animals naturally pick but it took us several centuries of scientific sophistication to pick. We were the ones not picking the sounds all along.
People who are not directly hit by bomb can still be killed by the sound waves generated that is beyond the limits of our ears to pick.

About MMM, if God tells someone something, it is in that person's interest. His or her case may be different from yours. For example, I have wanted to play the "Who wants to be a millionaire" home play before and God tells me not to. I won't go on the street to tell everyone not to. It's personal.

HOWEVER GOD IS REAL AND HE SPEAKS TO US. HE CAN SPEAK TO YOU TOO- IN FACT HE DOES, BUT RARELY IN AUDIBLE VOICE.

[size=14pt]Other Examples of God Speaking To Me[/size]

- I was in an executive meeting and the M.D. was talking about opening another branch somewhere and sending one of the staffs to handle the place. God lets me know that will be a wrong move and I tried to persuade the man not to make the move but he was so confident (I too didn't tell him God said so anyway). Well he ended up losing both the staff and all the investment in the branch.

- I thought my spouse would have someone she would marry already when I met her. God told me I was wrong and she later confirmed it.

- Someone had prayed that he wanted a divine confirmation of the course he would study to be sure and that God should use me for this (I won't advise anyone doing that anyway). It was computer science he was considering but just wanted to be sure. Immediately we met I "saw" COMPUTER SCIENCE written across his forehead before I knew why he came. That was wasn't what I cooked up.

- Someone went for a job interview and it looked very bad plus initially she was not interested (people have said the CEO of the company is wicked). Well, I told her what God told me when I asked about it: 1. She will be employed 2. It will be for her training to learn how to run a similar company and it will be a rigorous training.
SURE ENOUGH, she was employed and within 3 months (before six month when she was to be confirmed) she was promoted to head all the branches and to represent the CEO which led to her training to handle things only the CEO normally handles. The company is currently in her care under the CEOs watch.

... and so on. What you choose to believe can either help or limit you. God is real and He is my Advantage.

that's what I've always told people to know God for themselves. I like what you said about Him being your advantage. You see there are some posts on NL I see discrediting God's existence that honestly gets me laughing. Now can you imagine somebody wanting to come and convince you that God doesn't exist? It wouldn't just make sense to me and this is coming from someone who wasn't born a Christian. PEACE bro!

Is it any wonder God said we should have childlike faith in Him? When you begin to give heed to deceitful doctrines of the devil, what do you expect?

I wish op well.

bemind:
I have been a Christian all my life but fortunately or unfortunately in November 2015, I decided to get more serious with my relationship with Christ. I immersed myself in all things of Christ. Fasting during the day and only listening to my bible app on long journeys to and fro my workplace. During breaks at work, I'd run to the bathroom, get on my knees with my hands sometimes in the air, praying, praying and praying. Praying to turn a new leaf, praying for insight and guidance in this new path, praying for forgiveness, praying to receive the Holy Spirit, praying to be heard, praying to transition to a true child of God a disciple of Christ.

Let me tell you what happened to me. I started to uncover codes in the Bible. I realized the Old Testament was an allegory of the New Testament. A lot of revelations about Christ being the messiah was deeply coded in the Old Testament. I downloaded several versions and translations of the Bible for deeper understanding of the word. If you read carefully, Moses parting of the sea was done using the sign of the cross, the blood marks on the entrance of the homes of the Jews in Exodus was also done using the cross sign. So many subtle revelations of Christ is deeply encoded in so many parts of the Old Testament. But they come allegorized. The book of Revelations I realized is a summary of all the major stories of the Bible spanning both Old and New Testament and is basically the story of the elect and the elect only. The beatitudes are to the elect of God and them only. A lot of Solomon and other prophets’ soliloquies were in reference to the burdens, pains and sorrows of the elect whom will be appointed to serve Christ selflessly and completely, as the journey is not likely to be a bed of roses. Paul spoke more about this group of disciples.

These revelations continued, until one day on my way home listening to Paul as usual, I heard a statement in the book of Hebrews about the repercussions of receiving the Holy Spirit and then going back to sin. Those words from Paul resonated so well with me and It was clear that I had received some kind of clarity, guidance particularly with uncovering truths in the Bible.
It meant that If I slipped, just a pinch, I was doomed. I panicked because at the time I believed I had been living what I can only describe as a purist but not perfectly, I couldn't guarantee I would be in this repentant state forever, at all times. It hit me, then fear started to creep in.
What followed were a series of fearful and sleepless nights. I lost a ton of weight but continued to hold on to the Word but this time in great fear.

Eventually I had had enough. Fear I figured is the great energy driving this force, it is the overriding fuel of the religious path. Without it the religion can't stand. So I quit. Quitting was certainly not a walk in the park. Then the veil was unveiled!

You see once you get to this stage in your journey either of two things happen. You become psychotic and start believing witches or the devil or some relative is out to get you. Either that or you start to see the cheer evil in the acts penned in the "holy book". The goriness of the blood which you supposedly soak yourself in for safety, the tribalism and racism purported by a particular sect, the hot hell fire etc these are not acts of a God ingrained in Love. I attained freedom at last.

I now follow the “religion” of love your neighbor as yourself, empathy and compassion for all. The religion of pointing out the ills and sins of others is one of pure hypocrisy. The day you realize you are not any different from the so called sinners (gays, prostitutes, bobrisky) you berate and condemn to hell, that is the day your veil would be removed. You don't even have to denounce any religion, just try love and abore judgements.

One last thing I learnt is as long as you live under the laws of this planet, be careful as what you wish for others, you have unknowingly wished for yourself. If you wish hell and misery for others, you unknowingly get hell and misery yourself. If you wish love and health to your fellow man, the universe rewards you same.

. My dear yes some christians are not worthy of that name as they criticise,condemn and hate more than they love,care and help. My advice for u is to get a 'rhapsody of realities' book or any other faith teaching book or CD from Pastor Chris. I promise u u'r whole new conception of christianity will change. U'll see that christianity is more than pple call it. It's more than a religion. Pls do as i said and i promise u,if u wholeheartedly read it and allow the holy spirit to teach u,u'll see that i'm right and that Jesus loves u a lot than u can imagine. Read it and u'll be put on the right path,just as i am.

benzics:

I was an alter server in the catholic church, I was a Bible teacher in watchman.. I don't think you know religion more than I do, you won't know how senseless you are until you break free from religion, go and read your Bible, page to page, read it with sense, and you yourself will see how brainwashed you've been

lol..page by page

Immorttal:
please what movie is this? your summary kindled my interest i suggest you should post this summary on imdb.com.

Hehehehehehehehe

benzics:

I was an alter server in the catholic church, I was a Bible teacher in watchman.. I don't think you know religion more than I do, you won't know how senseless you are until you break free from religion, go and read your Bible, page to page, read it with sense, and you yourself will see how brainwashed you've been

I have this to say to you...

And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
John:5:38
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John:5:39
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John:5:40

Well Alter Boy and Bible Teacher (whatever that means), I have this to ask you, DID YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST?

Preaching the gospel yet living in sin, speaking in (fake) tongues yet living in sin does not qualify you as a Christians sir.

If you did not know Jesus personally, you were working for yourself.

You were a religious person not a Christian. Christianity is a relationship, if you don't have it, you cant talk about it.

Day by day am seeing the grand plan of Catholicism. turn people over to satan.

Emmanystone:


Day by day am seeing the grand plan of Catholicism. turn people over to satan.

Lol.. are you seriously quoting the Bible (written by a con artist) to me? By the way watchman is a pentecostal church.

When I was a Christian, trust me, you didn't "know christ" more than I did, I preached, ate and slept with prayer.. It got to a point where everyone was calling me pastor /rev fr.
I "believed" I spoke with God, there was this Time my aunt was being operated on.. I locked the doors, I prayed till an extent I was drowning in my own sweat and tears, unknowingly for me that they were banging the door for me to open, "when I came back from the spirit", I quickly heard loud knocks on the door when I opened, my sister was like "I've been knocking for up to an hour now".. Anyway, fast forward, my aunt had a successful operation and I believed it was "God" who answered my prayers..

Fast forward.. I started getting into the Bible more and more, I started seeing life from a reasonable perspective, I then discovered that religion was a scam! God in fact doesn't exist, even if he does, he is not the monster portrayed in the Bible.. . Gbam, I told everyone I didn't believe in God..

My mum was heartbroken, she was shocked, all my sis were like "if there is no God, where do you get money from" (I fucking work for money!).. All my relatives didn't believe it..

My course mates were like, "I know you are just joking, because you can't mean it".. not knowing I mean everything I say!

The Bible is there, read it with sense!! ! And you will understand!

benzics:

Lol.. are you seriously quoting the Bible (written by a con artist) to me? By the way watchman is a pentecostal church.

When I was a Christian, trust me, you didn't "know christ" more than I did, I preached, ate and slept with prayer.. It got to a point where everyone was calling me pastor /rev fr.
I "believed" I spoke with God, there was this Time my aunt was being operated on.. I locked the doors, I prayed till an extent I was drowning in my own sweat and tears, unknowingly for me that they were banging the door for me to open, "when I came back from the spirit", I quickly heard loud knocks on the door when I opened, my sister was like "I've been knocking for up to an hour now".. Anyway, fast forward, my aunt had a successful operation and I believed it was "God" who answered my prayers..

Fast forward.. I started getting into the Bible more and more, I started seeing life from a reasonable perspective, I then discovered that religion was a scam! God in fact doesn't exist, even if he does, he is not the monster portrayed in the Bible.. . Gbam, I told everyone I didn't believe in God..

My mum was heartbroken, she was shocked, all my sis were like "if there is no God, where do you get money from" (I fucking work for money!).. All my relatives didn't believe it..

My course mates were like, "I know you are just joking, because you can't mean it".. not knowing I mean everything I say!

The Bible is there, read it with sense!! ! And you will understand!

This is similar to what happened to me. The day you drop hypocrisy and begin to dig deeper and deeper into the faith, the day you start reading the Bible with more depth, trying to live right and relinquish falsehood, that is when your veil will be unveiled. It's amazing!

benzics:

Lol.. are you seriously quoting the Bible (written by a con artist) to me? By the way watchman is a pentecostal church.

When I was a Christian, trust me, you didn't "know christ" more than I did, I preached, ate and slept with prayer.. It got to a point where everyone was calling me pastor /rev fr.
I "believed" I spoke with God, there was this Time my aunt was being operated on.. I locked the doors, I prayed till an extent I was drowning in my own sweat and tears, unknowingly for me that they were banging the door for me to open, "when I came back from the spirit", I quickly heard loud knocks on the door when I opened, my sister was like "I've been knocking for up to an hour now".. Anyway, fast forward, my aunt had a successful operation and I believed it was "God" who answered my prayers..

Fast forward.. I started getting into the Bible more and more, I started seeing life from a reasonable perspective, I then discovered that religion was a scam! God in fact doesn't exist, even if he does, he is not the monster portrayed in the Bible.. . Gbam, I told everyone I didn't believe in God..

My mum was heartbroken, she was shocked, all my sis were like "if there is no God, where do you get money from" (I fucking work for money!).. All my relatives didn't believe it..

My course mates were like, "I know you are just joking, because you can't mean it".. not knowing I mean everything I say!

The Bible is there, read it with sense!! ! And you will understand!

Very funny you. I know what watchman is. I was a Catholic, and i know where Watchman came from and how they still hold catholic doctrines to a large extent.

When you were in church you mean? Bros you were never a Christian.

You believed you spoke to God? Did he speak back to you? Has God ever spoken to you?

Okay lets start from here. Answer me this questions.

1 When did you die to SIN?

(To live in Christ you have to first die and then be born again).
Let me explain for clarity. We all were born sinners. We dont commit sin becos we want to, we sin because we were born with the nature of Sin. We just flow with with the nature, until there's a encounter. Encounter brings revelation, revelation brings conviction of our sins. Conviction brings about conversion.

At this point is when a man sees his sinfulness, his wretchedness, his helplessness without Christ. This is the point that a man discovers what spiritual death means and the implication of that.
It is at this point that a soul cries out for help to Jesus who is the only one with a solution.

Its at this point that a man sees the danger of sin and decides to make a U turn, repent and forsake Sin. Its at this point that a man start the race.

So, again i ask you. Wen did you die? What encounter did you have that brought you to this point?


2. You talked about Talking to God. How did you do that?
Listen, Christ decides how he communicates to us. We do not choose the manner in which we hear God. in which way did Christ talked to you in your christian adventure?

What is Rhema how did you receive your rhema from God?

Emmanystone:

I have this to say to you...

And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
John:5:38
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John:5:39
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John:5:40

Well Alter Boy and Bible Teacher (whatever that means), I have this to ask you, DID YOU HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST?

Preaching the gospel yet living in sin, speaking in (fake) tongues yet living in sin does not qualify you as a Christians sir.

If you did not know Jesus personally, you were working for yourself.

You were a religious person not a Christian. Christianity is a relationship, if you don't have it, you cant talk about it.

Day by day am seeing the grand plan of Catholicism. turn people over to satan.

i know who you are now...
With certainty...
I suspected as much tho

Emmanystone:

2. You talked about Talking to God. How did you do that?
Listen, Christ decides how he communicates to us. We do not choose the manner in which we hear God. in which way did Christ talked to you in your christian adventure?

What is Rhema how did you receive your rhema from God?

LMAO
I said I "believed" I talked to God, where in reality, there is no fucking god to talk to.
Being religious makes you delusional, you don't see things the way they are, you believe "hallucinations" are real..
There is no sin, no GOD, no SATAN, just us and our actions, either good or bad..

It's funny how you became a Christian through your parents (maybe).. What if your parents were Muslims??
And it's funny how the only proof you have of God and Jesus, is written in a God forsaken book!! A book written by a con man with intentions to make a living.

Keep wallowing in your ignorance, and thinking there is God, that's none of my biz though...

Christianity, the place where you look up to a serial killer, genocidal bastard, envious entity, foolish being as your creator, who "loves you".. Lol

bemind:



This is similar to what happened to me. The day you drop hypocrisy and begin to dig deeper and deeper into the faith, the day you start reading the Bible with more depth, trying to live right and relinquish falsehood, that is when your veil will be unveiled. It's amazing!

Really amazing, but trust me, these Christians won't listen.. Most of them who come here to argue do not even read their Bibles! Pfft

MrMontella:

i know who you are now...
With certainty...
I suspected as much tho

lol who?

benzics:

Lol.. are you seriously quoting the Bible (written by a con artist) to me? By the way watchman is a pentecostal church.

When I was a Christian, trust me, you didn't "know christ" more than I did, I preached, ate and slept with prayer.. It got to a point where everyone was calling me pastor /rev fr.
I "believed" I spoke with God, there was this Time my aunt was being operated on.. I locked the doors, I prayed till an extent I was drowning in my own sweat and tears, unknowingly for me that they were banging the door for me to open, "when I came back from the spirit", I quickly heard loud knocks on the door when I opened, my sister was like "I've been knocking for up to an hour now".. Anyway, fast forward, my aunt had a successful operation and I believed it was "God" who answered my prayers..

Fast forward.. I started getting into the Bible more and more, I started seeing life from a reasonable perspective, I then discovered that religion was a scam! God in fact doesn't exist, even if he does, he is not the monster portrayed in the Bible.. . Gbam, I told everyone I didn't believe in God..

My mum was heartbroken, she was shocked, all my sis were like "if there is no God, where do you get money from" (I fucking work for money!).. All my relatives didn't believe it..

My course mates were like, "I know you are just joking, because you can't mean it".. not knowing I mean everything I say!

The Bible is there, read it with sense!! ! And you will understand!

seriously.... is there any secret way to read the bible that no one is telling me about??

I've been reading the bible since... i do have some questions on some issues but I've not seen any reason to doubt the existence of God. especially the bible God... so if there's any secret way to read the bible that'll “open my eyes" then u better tell me.


coming to your story.... are u saying that there's nobody u ever prayed for and the prayer worked?

jonbellion:
lol who?

analice107

Wilgrea7:




seriously.... is there any secret way to read the bible that no one is telling me about??

I've been reading the bible since... i do have some questions on some issues but I've not seen any reason to doubt the existence of God. especially the bible God... so if there's any secret way to read the bible that'll “open my eyes" then u better tell me.


coming to your story.... are u saying that there's nobody u ever prayed for and the prayer worked?

Prayer doesn't work! Things happen! That's why your pastors deceive you that "god is waiting for the right time to answer"..

And to read the Bible, I've always mentioned" sense", read it with even an atom of reasoning! If you believe that a God who wiped (killed) out Sodom and Gomorrah with burning Sulphur (killing even the little babies).. If you believe that God is a loving God... Then I say to you again, read the Bible with your "brain"!!

If I was the one that killed my whole children with burning sulphur, what would you think of me? That am wicked, am heartless.. But here it is, god did same, but you tag him as" loving ".. . For mother nature's sake, don't be myopic!

And you know the Bible talks about a worldwide flood that in fact didn't happen, so basically the Bible is filled with lies, unrealistic stories.. Check my threads for top lies told to you by the Bible!

So since the Bible is a lie, then the god portrayed in the book was a fairy tale character, and therefore, there is no God!

MrMontella:

analice107

hopefullandlord said the same thing

benzics:

Prayer doesn't work! Things happen! That's why your pastors deceive you that "god is waiting for the right time to answer"..

many people have evidence otherwise... not just from pastors praying but from individual

And to read the Bible, I've always mentioned" sense", read it with even an atom of reasoning! If you believe that a God who wiped (killed) out Sodom and Gomorrah with burning Sulphur (killing even the little babies).. If you believe that God is a loving God... Then I say to you again, read the Bible with your "brain"!!

If I was the one that killed my whole children with burning sulphur, what would you think of me? That am wicked, am heartless.. But here it is, god did same, but you tag him as" loving ".. . For mother nature's sake, don't be myopic!

its one of the questions i have about the bible tho... but that's not enough reason to dismiss it considering that Jesus brought the message of love which was from God

And you know the Bible talks about a worldwide flood that in fact didn't happen, so basically the Bible is filled with lies, unrealistic stories.. Check my threads for top lies told to you by the Bible!

most religions talk of a flood... and even if the flood didn't exist... it doesn't change anything.

So since the Bible is a lie, then the god portrayed in the book was a fairy tale character, and therefore, there is no God!

this is the funny part... so since the bible is a lie then the God described in it is a lie and therefore no god exists at all?? really .. why the hasty generalisation ... if you understand the concept of a God who created all the billions of galaxies then you don't need anyone to tell you that no book can accurately describe him 100%.

Wilgrea7:


many people have evidence otherwise... not just from pastors praying but from individual




its one of the questions i have about the bible tho... but that's not enough reason to dismiss it considering that Jesus brought the message of love which was from God




most religions talk of a flood... and even if the flood didn't exist... it doesn't change anything.



this is the funny part... so since the bible is a lie then the God described in it is a lie and therefore no god exists at all?? really .. why the hasty generalisation ... if you understand the concept of a God who created all the billions of galaxies then you don't need anyone to tell you that no book can accurately describe him 100%.

Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created"? OK, who created the creator of the earth??

Prayer doesn't work! That is why in the Bible, you read things like " pray and work", "heaven help those who help themselves".. . Why didn't the Bible just say "pray".. Because prayer doesn't work! You can easily work without praying and still get your work done! People who believe that prayer works, are really delusional.. if prayer works, then why do god not answer all prayers??

I thought you guys believed that god has a "plan", why then do you pray to change God's plan? And why do god answer your prayer to change his plans? Simply put, there is no God! Even if there is God, then I think me being an atheist is part of "his perfect plan"... Rubbish!

benzics:


Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created"? OK, who created the creator of the earth??

Prayer doesn't work! That is why in the Bible, you read things like " pray and work", "heaven help those who help themselves".. . Why didn't the Bible just say "pray".. Because prayer doesn't work! You can easily work without praying and still get your work done! People who believe that prayer works, are really delusional.. if prayer works, then why do god not answer all prayers??

I thought you guys believed that god has a "plan", why then do you pray to change God's plan? And why do god answer your prayer to change his plans? Simply put, there is no God! Even if there is God, then I think me being an atheist is part of "his perfect plan"... Rubbish!

I'll just touch on your point, "Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created"?". We can't just believe the earth wasn't created because there is no proof that supports that position

chrmn1:
I'll just touch on your point, "Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created"?". We can't just believe the earth wasn't created because there is no proof that supports that position

And what proof do you have of God creating the earth if not the Bible written by a criminal?

benzics:

And what proof do you have of God creating the earth if not the Bible written by a criminal?

I was not the one that made any claim about God creating the world or that the world was not created. I was only responding to your statement as follows:"Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created""

You say theists are silly to believe in creationism because it lacks scientific proof but you also endorse the idea the the earth was not created, even though you have no proof for that.

chrmn1:
I was not the one that made any claim about God creating the world or that the world was not created. I was only responding to your statement as follows:"Why can't you guys just believe the earth wasn't "created""

You say theists are silly to believe in creationism because it lacks scientific proof but you also endorse the idea the the earth was not created, even though you have no proof for that.

Have you heard of the big bang? Do you know anything about evolution? Don't worry, science has a lot to still discover.. Until then, any claims by religious people are utter Nonsense!

benzics:

Have you heard of the big bang? Do you know anything about evolution? Don't worry, science has a lot to still discover.. Until then, any claims by religious people are utter Nonsense!

so you mean you accept that the basic materials that formed the universe just showed up or that they created themselves. It's one thing to say 'I don't know' and quite another to say 'it happened like this' when you know deep down in your heart that it couldn't have happened that way.