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Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by back2back(f): 11:17pm On Nov 25, 2009
Would this mean i can call Lagos and ask ,question about any particular person ¨that is registered ¨ and they will be able to give info

Further example, who will determine data-protection? Lagos or FG?

Can such data be use for Political purpose?

what if PDP started this is aim to win people to AC from back door?

Most of our problems, we copy things from USA without thinking properly.

I am also sure you might not know that a foreigner can also get resident permit cos it seems u dont know so many things as regards the above topic

They get FG issues 'resident permit' to go about in Nigeria and not that from Lagos state.

From answers I have seen here, Fasola & his boys need more planning.

Good Luck!
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by luv2talk(m): 11:33pm On Nov 25, 2009
Mr. Fash has don it again oo oo.Thumb up
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 12:03am On Nov 26, 2009
back2back:

Further example, who will determine data-protection? Lagos or FG?

Can such data be use for Political purpose?

what if PDP started this is aim to win people to AC from back door?

Most of our problems, we copy things from USA without thinking properly.

They get FG issues 'resident permit' to go about in Nigeria and not that from Lagos state.

From answers I have seen here, Fasola & his boys need more planning.

Good Luck!


So, should your listed concerns prevent or stop Lagos State Government from advancing, developing it's society and absorbing the immense benefits the ID program offers?

And when you say they need planning, what in particular are you talking about?
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by knight1k: 2:26am On Nov 26, 2009
State ID? that's not a bad idea but, first before we need to ask ourselves few questions.
1)Why do we need State ID?

2)How do we go about it without the reflection of the late National ID scheme?

3)What is the State ID Propaganda all about?

We all need to wake up to the reality of Our time.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 3:33am On Nov 26, 2009
knight1k:

State ID? that's not a bad idea but, first before we need to ask ourselves few questions.
1)Why do we need State ID?


Tax system, law enforcement and public safety, banking and credit system, statistics and population control, it allows policy-makers to rationalize processes to implement schemes which balance the costs, budgeting and planning.


2)How do we go about it without the reflection of the late National ID scheme?


This has nothing to do with anything federal. States collects taxes and state officials and policy makers have every right to identify by whatever means tax payers within their states, either to access state benefits or for proper planning and budgeting.


3)What is the State ID Propaganda all about?

I have no clue, you mind explaining further?

We all need to wake up to the reality of Our time.

What reality of our time do we need to wake up to?


Identification system is the basic building block for any sane and civil society. How do you function effectively and provide good service if you don't know who is who and how many people you're budgeting and planning for? It's like fighting blindfolded with your hands tied behind your back.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 3:34am On Nov 26, 2009
ID system is already in use in Lagos state, school kids in Lagos state have Unique Identification Numbers like US's social security number.

Lagos State Government Education Management System (LASGEMS)





LASGEMS web-based version is to be commissioned soon for on-line and real time usage by Lagos State public/private primary and secondary school managers, education sector managers and other registered users like foreign missions in Nigeria, institutions, etc.

This innovative education management tool backed by law, maintains lifetime comprehensive database for all schools, pupils and students beginning from 2005/2006 academic year. It manages history of academic and administrative records including schools attended, disciplinary issues, etc. Other features include annual placements to public schools, admissions, student transfer management (public and private schools), examination planning and registration, etc.

Each student is assigned a unique Student Personal Identification Number (SPIN) and duly registered students are issued government identity cards. The ID card is a mandatory carry-along item for every student/pupil whenever in school uniform or participating in any education related activity.

School manager (Principal/Head Teacher) will be assigned user Login ID after school's administrative clearance/certification by appropriate government officials through the system. Thereafter, school manager will create his/her staff Login IDs. LASGEMS multimedia interactive user training will be provided.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by ladijaiye(m): 8:59am On Nov 26, 2009
Otokx, You're a thief and enemy of progress, if you don't like it go back to your home town or village, And leave the Lagosian to progress.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by back2back(f): 9:13am On Nov 26, 2009
Tax system, law enforcement and public safety, banking and credit system, statistics and population control, it allows policy-makers to rationalize processes to implement schemes which balance the costs, budgeting and planning.


exactly!

FG owned the police, what happens to your ID when police stop you and thats all you have?

Population control? So each state can inflate their population by bogus ID?

The point: as good as it is, it cant be done in isolation.

We already have never-end problems with census figure.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 10:56am On Nov 26, 2009
back2back:



exactly!

FG owned the police, what happens to your ID when police stop you and thats all you have?

Population control? So each state can inflate their population by bogus ID?

The point: as good as it is, it cant be done in isolation.

We already have never-end problems with census figure.


Exactly what??


What's federal police got to do with state Id? Are we talking about state ID or federal ID abi na federal government issue the card on behalf of the state?

Is it a federal requirement that federal police must ask for and use state ID to further their law enforcement activities? And who cares what other states are doing? Is Lagos state responsible for what other states are doing or not doing? Try use your head small.

Law enforcement and public safety is not limited to the Nigerian police, the state also enact and enforce laws, they have magistrate, civil  and criminal courts so proper identification within the state is still an integral part of state wide law enforcement including traffic and transportation codes enforcements.

Lagos state is in charge of it's own destiny with mandate granted by state residents to protect and look after all residents.

How do you function, serve and provide for your people if you have no clue per  how many people you are providing for? In your personal life, don't you budget and plan based on what you have and how many people you're providing for in your household?

And who cares about your census, Lagos state is free and have every right to determine the best and proper way to manage it's affairs and if Identification remains the best way forward, so be it. The only form of Identification states can not mess with is passports.


What do you think a state is gan sef? A freeking federal government parastatal?

It's really a pain going back and forth with folks who's head is already buried in the ground. I'm just glad and relived that backward thinking and can't do spirited people  like you are not part of the decision making body over @ Alausa.

No be by force, just refuse to accept if den offer you one.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by jenago4you: 2:08pm On Nov 26, 2009
pls,can someone hook me up to the sector responsible for the distribution and production of the IDs for this GOD made BATALION of a city? I'll never be poor again grin tongue grin tongue
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by MrCartha: 7:14pm On Nov 26, 2009
Sounds good! But how protected is the card to be from been faked?! Or is are the OLUWOLE guys all dead grin
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 8:08pm On Nov 26, 2009
Mr. Cartha:

Sounds good! But how protected is the card to be from been faked?! Or is are the OLUWOLE guys all dead grin


You can fake it just for the heck of it, but it's pretty much useless because you can not fake genetics/biometrics or derive any kind of state benefits with your fake ID, they have scanners to detect fakes. It's biometrics based for a reason.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by DisGuy: 2:00am On Nov 27, 2009
Who will pay for it?

Ikuforiji said while Lagosians in several constituencies commended the efforts of the state government so far, the House members had observed "some shortcomings and uneven spread in our developmental efforts."

His words: "Over-concentration of efforts at the centre at the expense of the upcountry tends to isolate a big percentage of our constituents to the extent that a simple mind will simply not agree that users of Aboru Road, Ire-Akari/Ilasamaja Road, Lagos-Ikorodu Road, Itoikin/Epe Road, Pen Cinema-Ishaga Road, are bonafide residents of our great state."
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by 9ja4eva: 4:46am On Nov 27, 2009
Excellent.

Fashola for President.Carry go jare
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by ohunyon(m): 2:01pm On Nov 27, 2009
Fashola : omo mi carry go
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by darmilorla(f): 3:31pm On Nov 27, 2009
@Babapupa, 9ice points, read thru all ur post and i must say am very impressed, i lov dat, just leave back2back alone, she seems confused and does'nt understand wat ur saying, she's getting everything all mixed up,
some ppl just talk lyk they dont av common sence, cant u guys think?? its just common sence, tell mi u dont knw the usefullness of ID, haba!
we shld all learn to give credit to whom credit is deserved, atleast we've seen someone who is ready to make a change, what about those that dont even have any plans for the state or country at large?? Fashola carry go ojare,
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by Kay17: 5:34pm On Nov 27, 2009
wats that old fool up to? re we in a communist state were we to be labelled, classified and packaged. deprivin people of their right to property(a guarantee of democracy). this time the ids wuld be used to segregate and isolate targets for ethnic discrimination, that plagued nigeria all this years. afterall, i thought we were all nigerians.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by back2back(f): 11:56pm On Nov 27, 2009
this time the ids wuld be used to segregate and isolate targets for ethnic discrimination, that plagued nigeria all this years. afterall, i thought we were all nigerians.

Gbosa!! Gbosa!!!
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by sjeezy8: 12:27am On Nov 28, 2009
some of the dumbest comments ever

eko o ni baje
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by Kay17: 11:45am On Nov 28, 2009
sjeezy8:

some of the dumbest comments ever

eko o ni baje
u wuld be such an idiot to believe that these ids wuld be for development and prosperity. apart from dat, those without an id wuld what? Not worthy to benefit from these upcoming development.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 2:47pm On Nov 28, 2009
Even dumber,
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by DisGuy: 2:53pm On Nov 28, 2009
babapupa how is it going to be funded and who will have access to it?
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by THEAMAKA3(f): 8:14pm On Nov 28, 2009
^^^^
OH GOSH!!! WILL YOU SHUSH! angry
how many threads are you going to post that in?
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 8:18pm On Nov 28, 2009
imoyaba:

Nigerians, we have been seriously insulted, i couldnt beliveve what i was reading, pls we have to retaliate, this is the link i saw it,

http://texterz.com/index.php?topic=178.0


Stop posting this bait and nonsense garbage all over the place.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by THEAMAKA3(f): 8:19pm On Nov 28, 2009
isnt that considered spam?
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 8:24pm On Nov 28, 2009
Dis Guy:

babapupa how is it going to be funded Obviously, Lagos state Government via state taxpayers


and who will have access to it? State residents of course.




.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by DisGuy: 8:40pm On Nov 28, 2009
who have access to the data i mean
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 9:32pm On Nov 28, 2009
I don't know?
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by sjeezy8: 10:35pm On Nov 28, 2009
I think dis ting is hilarious see all deez people yarning and making noise. Maybe you people are part of those living in Lagos state making money and evading taxes. Any sensible legal working tax payer who is a resident of lagos state would be for State IDs. Only those who arent residents or paying taxes would be fearful. MIND YOU I SAID RESIDENTS NOT INDIGNES or yorubas.
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 12:09am On Nov 29, 2009
Fashola Advocates Accurate Census Figure As Bases For Good Governance.

Speaking on the topic, “Ethics and Good Corporate Citizenship, the Lagos Experience”, Governor Fashola declared, [b]“If we do not resolve this fundamental issue very quickly; if we do not know the number of people in the country, how do we know how much power they need, how much water they need, how many houses they need, we can never get it right”.

The Governor lamented that even the basic information from individuals which are also fundamental in building up data for good governance are lacking, pointing out that people are unwilling to give such basic information as their ages, residential addresses, date of birth and other related information that are necessary for building up essential data.

Likening governance to staging a party, Governor Fashola queried, “How can anyone stage a party without knowing the number of guests that are expected? That is an invitation to chaos.”. He wondered why people shy away from giving such information at home while they readily do so at the entry points into foreign countries when they travel abroad. “Citizens must sign on. They must let us know that they exist”,
[/b] he said.



http://www.tundefashola.com/archives/news/2009/11/26/20091126N01.html
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by back2back(f): 12:35am On Nov 29, 2009
Fashola Advocates Accurate Census Figure As Bases For Good Governance.


Only NPC which reports to FG can determine the CENSUS figure!

If he wants accurate figure, He shoud be taking with FG and other state governors!
Re: Lagos Citizens To Have State Identity Card In 2010 - Fashola by babapupa: 12:41am On Nov 29, 2009
back2back:


Only NPC which reports to FG can determine the CENSUS figure!

If he wants accurate figure, He shoud be taking with FG and other state governors!




Must you not make sense every time you post?

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