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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by nijanigga: 10:33am On Jan 08, 2017
suremanpatriot:
WOW!!!!! WHAT A JOURNEY OF TREMENDOUS TRIUMPHS FOR ADEBOYES AND US ALL. THIS IS A MAN WITH THREE PHDs,YET HE IS EXCEPTIONALLY MEEK AND LEADS WITH EXEMPLARY HUMILITY PERSONIFIED NOT GLAMOURIZING HIMSELF OVER JESUS.

HALLELUYAH!!!; GOD BLESS PASTOR ADEBOYE A GREAT MAN OF GOD, A GREAT SAGE ,A POWERFUL FORCE IN THE CHRISTENDOM.

NO BODY CAN STOP YOU SIR FROM THE POWERFUL WORKS YOU DO TOUCHING CHRISTIANS LIVES MEANINGFULLY AND GLOBALLY WITHOUT BARRIERS. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SIR.

three Ph.D s from where? ignorance is a disease.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by uzolexis(f): 10:35am On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


Oh, my God.

The law gave 20 Years of leadership as the limit. So it is either you retire at 70 (the stipulated age of retirement for the church) or you retire before 70 provided you have been head of the church for 20 Years. Haba, it is not so hard to comprehend now.


Governance Code 2016 of the Act encompasses three sectors: the private, the public and not-for-profit. It is the not-for-profit sector, sometimes referred to as the Benevolent Sector, the Third Sector or the Civil Society Sector, that religious bodies fall under.


The code read in part, “The founder or leader of a NFPO (not-for-profit) occupies a special position in the organisation and is committed to the success and longevity of the NFPO. Accordingly, a founder or leader should not take on too many responsibilities in the organisation or have an indefinite term in the running of the organisation.

“Where, for any reason, a founder or leader of NFPO also occupies any of the three governance positions of chairmanship of the board of trustees, the governing board or council, and the headship of the executive management (or their governance equivalents), the following provisions shall apply before the end of the organisation’s financial year in which this code takes effect.

“The founder or leader shall cease to occupy these three governance positions simultaneously. This is to ensure the separation of powers and avoid possible concentration of powers in one individual.

“The founder or leader may however choose – subject to the agreement of the organisation’s apex authority as expressed in the annual general assembly, annual meeting, annual stakeholder engagement, annual conference, annual synod, annual fellowship assembly or their equivalents – only one of these three governance positions subject to his current tenure. This is to ensure a clear division of responsibilities at the head of the organisation between the running of the governing body and the executive responsibility for the management and fulfilment of the organisation’s mission.

Where the founder or leader has occupied all or any of these three governance positions for more than twenty years, or is aged seventy years or above, the choice in the section above should only relate to the board of trustees as in section below

you didn't read the bold baa
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Eaglesence: 10:41am On Jan 08, 2017
signature2012:
Hope this won't cause uproar in some churches shocked shocked

That na if rumour mongers are not at it again na. It sure will cause an uprising sad
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by 49cents(m): 10:42am On Jan 08, 2017
Austin4lif:
Proudly a catholic. My bishop or priest dnt take orders from the government

Levels dey nah.....

Catholic daddy GO na Pope nah lol

Plus the Catholic Church already has her internal succession plan for her bishops

Finally the Catholic Church is damn too self-respected and de-commercialised to the regulated by any aproko policy

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by LordOfNaira: 10:50am On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:





you didn't read the bold baa

However, it doesn't help your argument. No one said 70 meant "too old". Moreover, the 70 years as age of retirement as always been a church stipulation. That the law buttressed it doesn't mean the law finds a 70 year old man incapable of carrying out his administrative duties effectively. So all that stuff about extending it to politics is childish. If Adeboye retires today, he can still contest for the presidency because no one is disenfranchised based on age. You Christians need to grow up now!!!
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by obontami: 11:01am On Jan 08, 2017
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by uzolexis(f): 11:03am On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


However, it doesn't help your argument. No one said 70 meant "too old". Moreover, the 70 years as age of retirement as always been a church stipulation. That the law buttressed it doesn't mean the law finds a 70 year old man incapable of carrying out his administrative duties effectively. So all that stuff about extending it to politics is childish. If Adeboye retires today, he can still contest for the presidency because no one is disenfranchised based on age. You Christians need to grow up now!!!

1st of, I won't call myself a christian, I was but now i'm not sure but i'm not an atheist either.
2ndly, because your point was proved wrong you have decide to use childishness as an excuse. You should read to understand before running to give your "supposedly smart ass" replies. I explicitly stated that my "too old" is implied from the law, which means it was not stated there and I wish the age limit should also be extended to politics.....I don't even see why this is so difficult for you to comprehend.
maybe you should go back to English class.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Nobody: 11:08am On Jan 08, 2017
Its strange that the successors aren't their children.

maybe they forsee that the business will fold up soon.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mu2sa2: 11:11am On Jan 08, 2017
"He is the Global Missioner and Spiritual Leader of the Church." These people love grandiose titles.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by LordOfNaira: 11:14am On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:


1st of, i won't call myself a christian, I was but now i'm not sure but i'm not an atheist either.
2ndly, because your point was proved wrong you have decide to use childishness as an excuse. You should read to understand before running to give your "supposedly smart ass" replies. I explicitly stated that my "too old" is implied from the law, which means it was not stated there and I wish the age limit should also be extended to politics.....I don't even see why this is so difficult for you to comprehend.
maybe you should go back to English class.

Haba, don't be silly, there are enough errors in your write up that suggest a rottenness in English. Well, you were not implying, you were certain that the law was unfair and should therefore be visited upon the supposed protagonists of such a law. Just take it easy, young lady. Remember that anger and madness are brothers.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Nobody: 11:14am On Jan 08, 2017
One thing with Yoruba is that Their Tribalism reach CHURCH..... you will never see other tribe being a member of governing body...... All the assistant GO will also be Yorubas, In portharcourt if a SS OR SE pastor suffer and built a very big or beautiful RCCG parish he will be transferred to a local or smaller Parish and a Yoruba man sent to that church from no where. That happened to my elder brother and so may I know
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by OBAGADAFFI: 11:18am On Jan 08, 2017
There were reports on Saturday that the Federal Government had suspended the not-for-profit governance code of 2016. The human rights activist and lawyer explained that the law was suspended in relation to the public sector and not for organisations like churches and mosques.

He said, “There was a stakeholders’ meeting where churches, mosques and civil society organisations met with the government. We actually challenged the regulation at the Federal High Court and we lost


So we are also expecting the Leader of Muslims (Sultan) to step down.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by uzolexis(f): 11:19am On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


Haba, don't be silly, there are enough errors in your write up that suggest a rottenness in English. Well, you were not implying, you were certain that the law was unfair and should therefore be visited upon the supposed protagonists of such a law. Just take it easy, young lady. Remember that anger and madness are brothers.

Mr all knowing, I was implying that's why it was in quoted. I really don't care about the protagonists of such laws, I just care about recycling same old pple in Nigerian politics, that's the point I was driving which obviously flew over your head.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by yedidiah(m): 11:21am On Jan 08, 2017
ok! waiting for the likes of sheik Dahiru Usman Bauchi and one dibia or Ogun priest to follow suit.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by vislabraye(m): 11:28am On Jan 08, 2017
keypad1:
Why are these men all yoruba?

Does it mean God is with the yorubas more than any other tribe?

What baffles me most is the level of tribalism displayed by this particular even inside church. In redeem for instance, 95% of their main pastors are from this same tribe.

I was at winners chapel some years back and i sat close to a woman from south west mumbling to herself that ''they started this church first before it became popular''. It could be she was not given a post in that church.

Why are the southwesterners tribalistic in place of work? Once they head a particular branch they will pack their brothers, as long as you can speak ''wa, ekaaro, mo fe jeun''. Abandoning others to do the dirty jobs.

And they claimed to pray yet commit all manners of atrocities before God.

For instance, before a yoruba man will marry a woman he would have given her ''belle'' before the wedding. If not no wedding. And the wedding is a church wedding for that matter. Descrating the name of God and also ''defiling the marriage bed according to the Bible:

hmmmm......na wa oooo

mind you am not igbo neither am i from south east or south south.

Be warned.
.

Are you sure if what you're saying ? That woman grumbling, where is she frim ?
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by LordOfNaira: 11:29am On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:


Mr all knowing, I was implying that's why it was in quoted. I really don't care about the protagonists of such laws, I just care about recycling same old pple in Nigerian politics, that's the point I was driving which obviously flew over your head.

Chai, you are stubborn. My kind of woman. Lol.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by BuddhaPalm(m): 11:32am On Jan 08, 2017
engrjacuzzi:
this will make the vacant position for general overseer to be lucrative and political motivated.
I said it and with always say it that The Salvation Army still remains the best as regards administration.

My oga, could you please tell us why The Salvation Army's administration is the best?
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by vislabraye(m): 11:34am On Jan 08, 2017
GreatSE:
One thing with Yoruba is that Their Tribalism reach CHURCH..... you will never see other tribe being a member of governing body...... All the assistant GO will also be Yorubas, In portharcourt if a SS OR SE pastor suffer and built a very big or beautiful RCCG parish he will be transferred to a local or smaller Parish and a Yoruba man sent to that church from no where. That happened to my elder brother and so may I know

Your brother's consolation should be that he's working for God. Politics is in the church too. But on the other hand, I know a Yoruba pastor who used to be in RCCG. His ministers are from various tribes: Yoruba, Igbos, Deltans, Benue, etc. I give him kudos for that.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by uzolexis(f): 11:35am On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


Chai, you are stubborn. My kind of woman. Lol.

lol,not stubborn just opinionated
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by JesusPowers: 11:36am On Jan 08, 2017
I stand with the government on this!

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by LordOfNaira: 11:39am On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:

lol,not stubborn just opinionated
Yes, that is the word I should have used. Happy Sunday.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mytym(m): 11:39am On Jan 08, 2017
Dotng:


http://punchng.com/adeboye-steps-oyedepo-olukoya-kumuyi-others-follow/
kaeforum:
Its strange that the successors aren't their children.

maybe they forsee that the business will fold up soon.

It may not necessarily fold up like that but I foresee several breakaways soon...just Let the man die and you will see so many denominations spring up from rccg.
I'm not praying it folds up but trust me...it will,
It happened to all ancient churches coz God is not interested in our 'unity' I mean One denomination becoming a grand brand...God is interested in our 'Scatteredness'...that's the endgame of evangelism.

Catholic→ Anglican→Methodist, Baptist...Ecwa, TAC, CAC,African, Salvation Army all experienced or will experience breakaways at different points in time.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by BuddhaPalm(m): 11:43am On Jan 08, 2017
Sibrah:
If truly its a new law that's bringing all these, i doubt the proponents of this ill-thought law would survive. If the think they can equate the church of christ to secret society they are mistaken.

Oh yes...

They'll be smitten with pestilence!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edc9wyBCGCQ
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by uzolexis(f): 11:45am On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


Yes, that is the word I should have used. Happy Sunday.

thanks, same to you.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by PRYCE(m): 11:47am On Jan 08, 2017
modath:


My church "daddy" is among them & e nor bother me....Make hin go rest, e don do... Church suppose get board of trustees administering finances not "daddy & mummy" inc solely....

You are right sha! But I was only joking... I don't do the "daddy, mommy" bullshít myself!

I go to God directly not through some middleman.

Good Riddance! Sadly, some will take this as an attack on their churches!
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mistermoi(m): 11:48am On Jan 08, 2017
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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by hysteriabox(m): 11:52am On Jan 08, 2017
Lol. Story

This will only lead to GOs planting stooges. No bi to just put figure head. I doubt if their successors ll have any veto power. Most founders/overseers wont let their sphere of influence ever be taken from them. Its their sweat that built the church (so thry think) . But am sure there are a few exceptions.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by keypad1: 11:53am On Jan 08, 2017
Adebowale89:





I asked simple QST imbe.cile. you can't continue like this....you're off point, if you need to know with your hasty generalization
egunfe..... Am not off point. U have no say here cos the truth about ur tribe has been spoken. Snake tribe
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by UrBaesBoo(m): 11:58am On Jan 08, 2017
masonkz:
The code was suspended by the Federal Government in same 2016 just weeks after being released. Are these people actually oblivious of that? Or just looking for excuses. If you wanna chage your leadership, then do it without bringing the code into it.

Same code would have revolutionised the various industries in Nigeria and not just the Not-for-profit.

No mind them. All na scam. It's an excuse to port out of the mess they helped put the Nation in.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 12:01pm On Jan 08, 2017
donnie:
This will affect nothing in some churches e.g. Christ Embassy. Pastor Chris is not the adminiatrative head of Christ Embassy whether in Nigeria or worldwide. He is the spiritual head.
Nevertheless, this government should be checked. They have started with adminatration and financing; they will soon attempt to regulate what, and where preaching is done by the churches. But the hand of God is against all such. And every tree which the Lord my God hath not planted shall be uprooted.
Laws must be followed,and frankly,there is nothing wrong with this FRC law; it only ensures transparency and accountability.The reason why there are many materialistic churches and imams today who dupe their members in the name of religion is because their was no government regulation to whip them in line.
You should also remember that christian politicians are part of the people who made this law,it isnt a presidential decree,so it has nothing to do with "witch hunting".
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by oyeb15: 12:01pm On Jan 08, 2017
Others won't follow. The see the church as their personal estate.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mytym(m): 12:02pm On Jan 08, 2017
49cents:


Levels dey nah.....

Catholic daddy GO na Pope nah lol

Plus the Catholic Church already has her internal succession plan for her bishops

Finally the Catholic Church is damn too self-respected and de-commercialised to the regulated by any aproko policy

Catholism is the oldest form of brainwashing.
All churches/denominations literally started from catholism. And they took with them both the good, the bad and the ugly...
Catholism has only evolved after hundreds of years that is why you are not seeing them making errors like these modern Pentecostals...They have made all these mistakes Several hundreds of years ago so they know better.

Even the religious war/Jihad war the Muslims are fighting presently, are considered small to what the Church had perpetrated hundreds of years ago. There was a time in human history where people either accept faith or be killed. So the jihadists' who are fighting holy wars are learners.

Catholic is not standard because of it's 'perfect' succession plan or what have you. But by several years of terrible mistakes, errors, internal corrections and purging...

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