mr.official:


You said why do we run to God for everything, I know you have a father and you run to your father whenever you need his assistance despite he's your father,he's suppose to know all your needs,God said ask and it shall be given unto you.so the people of Rwanda forgot to ask God and God left them, if a child thinks he is wise enough to take care of himself his father will leave him alone.

I don't think there is anything that someone will tell you here that you will not defy.

You can keep whining. I'm done with you.

Hanoobaba:

Let's just assume someone stole a meat inside the nairaland pot of stew and my prime suspect happens to be tpia. Then I asked her this question 'tpia, if you didn't steal the meat, who do you think stole it?' does my question mean i'm saying tpia isn't the thief.

Hanoobaba:

Why are some people so stupid? This is a matter of simple english. The poster asked a simple question, 'where was god during the Rwandan genocide?' It's as simple as ABC, if god truely exist, where was he.
Let's just assume someone stole a meat inside the nairaland pot of stew and my prime suspect happens to be tpia. Then I asked her this question 'tpia, if you didn't steal the meat, who do you think stole it?' does my question mean i'm saying tpia isn't the thief. Definately not. Why don't you guys just answer the question rather than just beating around the bush.
Where was he?
Taking a nap?
Dancing yahooze?
Banging a beautiful angel?
Or may be he was boozing at the heavenly bar.

banom:

I did not see the bolded in red, i am off for a lunch.

mr.official:

Ode, did you look at the poster's nick?

mr.official:

Ode, did you look at the poster's nick?

banom:

I did not see the bolded in red, i am off for a lunch.

Hanoobaba:

Mr Banom you are not a man. What on earth can she do other than to come here and start her normal rantings that everyone knows her for. She will understand that I was only trying to make a point. (Thank God I didn't mention anyone's name) . Have your lunch in peace.

Kay 17:

alethiea n co are mere products of childhood indoctrination. thats why its is impossible for them to produce logically sound arguments proving the existence of their God. other species of this kind are muslims, hindus, pagans. they individually are strongly convicted that their religion is the one and only, poor minds.

Tudór:

This was the only part of your post relevant to this thread the rest were needless distractions i.e off topic.

If you claim there is a phone answering being who is merciful, loving, all powerful, ominiscient, perfect and ominipresent and then 1 million innocent and helpless pple including women and kids call out to that being with not so much as a whisper then my man, SUCH A BEING DOES NOT EXIST.

If I tell you there's a hairy goat on the moon who answers prayers for free and you and your entire family in time of mortal peril call out to the moon goat and no reply, what would be your conclusion if not no such goat exists.

aletheia:

@Tudor
1. Did you read what you wrote above? And to think I thought you had an intelligent and logical reason for rejecting God. I begin to see that your atheism is based on emotions rather than a logical basis. I repeat: "If I refuse to answer your phone calls, does it prove my non-existence?" The obvious answer to that is NO. I think you have a flawed understanding of logic. And also a flawed understanding of the nature of God.
2. Perhaps the second part of your reply reveals your reasons for embracing atheism. God didn't answer your prayers in a time of mortal peril. Ergo, He doesn't exist. You prove my point that atheism is the refuge of those who can not tackle the problems of life.
3. If you would take time to read my earlier posts, you will realize I 'd already given an answer to where God was; "He was present". Why don't you respond to that, instead of going on and on about "distractions". You asked a question. I am entitled to examine the assumptions that underlie that question. And here is one of them: "The question itself is based on a value judgement. Thousands of people died in horrendous circumstances but in what way is their death different from that of say, my grandfather (who died peacefully in his bed). The fact is that all humans; atheists and non-atheists die. What makes one death worse or better than the next? The atheist might as well ask where was God when my grandfather died? That the "atheist" asks this question shows he realizes there is something not right with the Rwandan Genocide. On the basis of what does he make that call?" Can you please respond to this.

aletheia: The fact is that all humans; atheists and non-atheists die. What makes one death worse or better than the next? The atheist might as well ask where was God when my grandfather died? That the "atheist" asks this question shows he realizes there is something not right with the Rwandan Genocide. On the basis of what does he make that call?" Can you please respond to this.

aletheia:

"If I refuse to answer your phone calls, does it prove my non-existence?"

aletheia:

@Tudor
1. Did you read what you wrote above? And to think I thought you had an intelligent and logical reason for rejecting God. I begin to see that your atheism is based on emotions rather than a logical basis.  I repeat: "If I refuse to answer your phone calls, does it prove my non-existence?" The obvious answer to that is NO. I think you have a flawed understanding of logic. And also a flawed understanding of the nature of God.
2. Perhaps the second part of your reply reveals your reasons for embracing atheism. God didn't answer your prayers in a time of mortal peril. Ergo, He doesn't exist. You prove my point that atheism is the refuge of those who can not tackle the problems of life.
3. If you would take time to read my earlier posts, you will realize I 'd already given an answer to where God was; "He was present". Why don't you respond to that, instead of going on and on about "distractions". You asked a question. I am entitled to examine the assumptions that underlie that question. And here is one of them: "The question itself is based on a value judgement. Thousands of people died in horrendous circumstances but in what way is their death different from that of say, my grandfather (who died peacefully in his bed). The fact is that all humans; atheists and non-atheists die. What makes one death worse or better than the next? The atheist might as well ask where was God when my grandfather died? That the "atheist" asks this question shows he realizes there is something not right with the Rwandan Genocide. On the basis of what does he make that call?" Can you please respond to this.

aletheia:

@Kay17
Really? Give me a break. Atheism is the refuge of those who cannot grapple with the tough questions of life.

Deep Sight:

This is just brilliant. I comp[letely agree with you that this thread has proved that Tudor has absolutely no rational basis for his atheism.

bimbusky:

@ Tudor, Atheist and the others, am sure you think that saying there is no God or ridiculing those who believe in him somehow makes you look cool and intelligent. the answer is sorry! it doesnt. it just makes most of us feel sorry for you.

like many have already said, let me say again.  God was there when Hitler was killing the Jews, he was there when Taylor was cutting off childrens arms and he was there when you were breaking the hearts of those beautiful girls. the point is, he doenst save promiscuously. if you believe in him and call on him, he will save you.

bimbusky:
@ Tudor, Atheist and the others, am sure you think that saying there is no God or ridiculing those who believe in him somehow makes you look cool and intelligent. the answer is sorry! it doesnt. it just makes most of us feel sorry for you

like many have already said, let me say again. God was there when Hitler was killing the Jews, he was there when Taylor was cutting off childrens arms and he was there when you were breaking the hearts of those beautiful girls. the point is, he doenst save promiscuously. if you believe in him and call on him, he will save you.

Tudór:

Again I quote the relevant part to the thread others are meaningless, irrelevant and downright senseless so i'll ignore them.

1. You never answered the question as to why God didn't save the lives 1 million victims who prayed to him rather all you did was speak about eternal life. .are you now saying God will never intervene to save a physical life?

2. Your grandfather wasn't burnt alive or butchered in a church was he? Horrendous is the keyword another is Helpless.
Infact it don't matter. . .didn't the lord say call me in times of trouble and I shall answer?

1. Your question was Where was God? Learn to communicate better. Did you mean to ask Why He didn't prevent the killings?

3. You obviously cannot deal with the fact that if I choose not to answer your call. It does not prove my non-existence

6. Again you like all other atheists in this forum fail to address this point: An atheist, to be consistently assured that his belief is accurate, must also claim to be omniscient, for there always exists the possibility of the existence of God outside his knowledge"

2.Again I ask you, on what basis did you decide that my grandfather's death is less horrendous than the genocide. Examine the assumptions that underlie your question.