TheVictorious:


One of the most reasonable comments I've seen so far but remove that "before you were bore", it's got nothing to do with anything.

Since you agree your lecturers don't have better (or maybe even "good", no point arguing. What standards make a university globally relevant afterall do you know?

At the bolded: Wise word, I totally agree! Who has more information is not as relevant as who has visible information. It will therefore be senseless for the later to argue with the former that he has more information - until he display the information at his disposal for everyone to verify.

lonelygem:


recall: your CVs never forget to indicate "ability to work under pressure in pursuit of objectives with little or no supervision. "

abi you Don forget?

Statsocial:

Lol go tell that to the proprietors of Harvard, MIT or even Tsinghua university. What rubbish. Medicine does not have to be bitter to be effective.

AZeD1:

Not really, most recent grads are still trying to get jobs/raise a family alumni issues would be the last thing on their minds. Also the higher number of students means more people, so the logistics of getting them together is actually harder.

Its easier to coordinate a group of 5 than a group 20.

lonelygem:


recall: your CVs never forget to indicate "ability to work under pressure in pursuit of objectives with little or no supervision. "

abi you Don forget?

TheVictorious:
In recent times we’ve seen a lot of reasons why federal universities are better than private universities; even though most publications as such are not always factual but mostly based on sentiment and appeal to the bigger population (argumentum ad populum), which federal universities have over their private counterparts. To address this, I decided to quote facts where relevant to show us how that our highly celebrated federal universities are living on past glory as compared to their match (15 year old CU). This should tell you what to expect from the burgeoning AfeBabalola varsity, Landmark and the likes in few years’ time!
For the purpose of this thread, I mostly compared only University of Ibadan (UI) and Obafemi Awolowo University OAU to Covenant University (CU), as they are the most prestigious and best performing federal universities in Nigeria. For points that comparisons are not made with UI and OAU, no evidence to base such on, please provide if they exist.

Note: If you think I’m wrong in any of the points, kindly provide proof to counter my argument. Criticism of this piece should be based on factual arguments not insults.

1. RESEARCH

In recent times, Covenant University has continued to lead the pack of Nigerian universities in research. This made it leapfrog a number of reputed federal universities in the rankings since 2014, to claim a much debated 2nd place in the then Webometrics ranking. Since then CU has continued to be relevant in research and has in effect severally displaced OAU from its previous positions.

Researchers: Of all the Universities in Nigeria, CU has the highest number of active researchers on google scholar (with well over 400 researchers), significantly surpassing those of UI (141) and OAU (93). Stunning right? Follow links to verify.
Links:
a. CU
https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_org&hl=en&org=18224868971208705017&after_author=AgNhAP3___8J&astart=400
b. UI
https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_org&hl=en&org=15547011194345455111&after_author=uM6OAP3___8J&astart=140
c. OAU
https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_org&hl=en&org=9219141668983597010&after_author=qKpcAPz___8J&astart=90

Research output: Being one of the top 10 consistent universities with the largest research output on the continent, Covenant University has maintained the largest institutional repository of all universities in West Africa since the past 3 years. After a slight slip in January 2017, CU’s intuitional repository continues to maintain top spot among West-African varsities; presently ranking 13th in Africa and 642nd in the world (a position that neither UI nor OAU have ever attained). Picture is attached.

Follow link to verify: http://repositories.webometrics.info/en/Africa

Research relevance: Not only does CU have a high volume of research output but also high visibility and citation of their research. No wonder CU research papers are one of the most read in the country. On Researchgate and Scopus for examples, some of the highest ranking scholars are CU researchers – due to high use of their works around the world (do conduct search on scopus and Researchgate to verify).
In fact, almost every week you check Researchgate, statistics of the previous week will most likely show that CU had the highest read journal in Nigeria; always exceeding UI and OAU’s highest read papers by startling margins. Those that are active on research gate must have noticed this trend, and if you doubt, you can begin to check for yourself now.

Okay, right now, a check on the profiles of OAU, UI and CU on Researchgate will reveal that the highest read publication of these universities across the world last week had 222 (OAU), 568 (UI) and 10,000 (CU) reads respectively (see pics and follow links). Two weeks ago, CU’s highest read publication had over 9000 reads across the globe while those of OAU and UI combined were much less than 1000! There’s little or no chance any of these schools’ research papers will be more sought after than that of CU even this week and any other week!

Links: Check middle left positon [Top publications last week by reads]

a. UI: https://www.researchgate.net/institution/University_of_Ibadan
b. OAU: https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Obafemi_Awolowo_University
c. CU: https://www.researchgate.net/institution/Covenant_University_Ota_Ogun_State_Nigeria


The relevance of CU’s researches is what has led to production of a number of patented products over the years (see more on inventions and innovations).

LarryBeryl:
After all, you found out its not easy to have a first class in a federal university, why? Is it because their students are dumb or they not well taught or the criteria for excellence is high? . I don't know where you got your stats from but as at 2016 UI led in research.
Even if CU produces 1million first class tomorrow, that's the work of the money they paid and CU criteria for exellence might be low compared to federal universities.
This is a masterpiece. An epic response. The guy almost had me!

I can't be dumb enough to sight fallacy without addressing it immediately, you must have undergone a lot of stress to cook up your story. Are those lecturers in CU from Harvard? I bet majority are from those Federal Universities you condemn. Oh, that may indicate that those lecturers are not worthy to lecture in CU. Just calm down, CU will keep employing graduates of Federal Universities to lecture their students even tho they produce 100billion first class in a year.

LarryBeryl:
After all, you found out its not easy to have a first class in a federal university, why? Is it because their students are dumb or they not well taught or the criteria for excellence is high? . I don't know where you got your stats from but as at 2016 UI led in research.
Even if CU produces 1million first class tomorrow, that's the work of the money they paid and CU criteria for exellence might be low compared to federal universities.
This is a masterpiece. An epic response. The guy almost had me!

I can't be dumb enough to sight fallacy without addressing it immediately, you must have undergone a lot of stress to cook up your story. Are those lecturers in CU from Harvard? I bet majority are from those Federal Universities you condemn. Oh, that may indicate that those lecturers are not worthy to lecture in CU. Just calm down, CU will keep employing graduates of Federal Universities to lecture their students even tho they produce 100billion first class in a year.

Shygirl1989:
I wonder why cu students and alumni try very hard to prove they are worth anything..... I'm yet to see anyone do anything substantial and worth talking about and not prying on what someone else has already built.
Well they say
"empty vessels make the loudest noise"
Imagine the insult to University of Ibadan.....smh
Glorified secondary schools. How many multi national companies employ from private universities, they only do so when they have augmented their akara certificatescertificates with foreign masters degree certificates.
Please this OP should check his facts right before annoying us with this nonsense he posted,
#walksoutofthread

zeongeon:
The problem with us in Nigeria is that we hate the truth coupled with the fact that we are envious.. The OP stated his claims with fact but we rather remain in the dark.

The people bashing OP if they have the means tomorrow won't even send there kids to the public universities they themselves went to. it's a known truth that the educational system in Nigeria is screwed.

The public universities are only living in there past glory. They can't be compared to CU presently. Go to our public universities and then you will see why the elites either send the kids abroad or to CU.

You know the truth.

Duru009:
Federal university is still the best... .

One of my friend with just a Bsc holder, is heading a department in one of the private university. You can't try that in a federal university ...........

You can woo!

Statsocial:

Lol go tell that to the proprietors of Harvard, MIT or even Tsinghua university. What rubbish. Medicine does not have to be bitter to be effective.

Statsocial:

Well as long as Osinbanjo and Fayose and numerous Nigerian senators see CU fit enough for their sons and daughters to attend. Then all these negative comments r irrelevant.

Basic123:
what fact are you talking about self.so many people have prooved so far on this thread that those fact are not factual and inappropriately applied.notable among them is the fact that CU is ranked above U.I in the 2017 webometric ranking.mtcheew

ilynem:

Simple question. An institution run by government and one run by an individual, which is supposed to be better? In a sane environment?

TheVictorious:


The rant has started again. Answer the questions I raised in the point of Academic excellence or provide verifiable stats to back your claim or simply keep quiet. Let me help you, the last option may actually be easier!

Statsocial:

Lol don't walk out yet. Wait for your reply. If you are talking about employability pls go argue with the Nigerian Corporate world or employers but I can assure you that Private unis are far more employable. Now you can walk out of the thread
Anyway I like you sha

zeongeon:
The problem with us in Nigeria is that we hate the truth coupled with the fact that we are envious.. The OP stated his claims with fact but we rather remain in the dark.

The people bashing OP if they have the means tomorrow won't even send there kids to the public universities they themselves went to. it's a known truth that the educational system in Nigeria is screwed.

The public universities are only living in there past glory. They can't be compared to CU presently. Go to our public universities and then you will see why the elites either send the kids abroad or to CU.

You know the truth.

lonelygem:


recall: your CVs never forget to indicate "ability to work under pressure in pursuit of objectives with little or no supervision. "

abi you Don forget?

SonOfEl:


Your delusion is your truth. I understand.

SonOfEl:


It depends. One is capitalist, the other is nationalistic in outlook

TheVictorious:


Mr. Intelligent I gave a time frame from which I drew comparison. You either carefully avoided it or just didn't see it.

At the bolded, I asked a rhetorical question and would still ask again: "what happened to the tens of thousand of graduates that the schools I cited have been turning out lately"

For notables, one of the links I gave was CNN. I can remember asking some of my folks about "Mali Music" and they said "who be that, when we dey talk about davido and olamide"! Every notable person have his sphere of Influence!!!

Like I said before, don't attack my person or even the school, bring forth points that will set aside my claims

heayernu56:

Microsoft is one of the top companies/industries in the world and it holds a lot of pressure on its workers but it provides enabling environment (I.e needed resources for research and discoveries) and same applies to universities abroad.
There should be enabling environment for students to learn even if there are pressures on them and only the private universities and very very few federal universities are taking giant stride towards that. Or how do you expect me to understand control engineering when we don't have any apparatus in our labs to carry out experiment and see how thinks work not to talk of inventing or researching on it ?, how do I understand the basic principles of modulation and demodulation of signals when we don't have the needed tools to experiment?. when I visited a private university and was able to get to their lab, I realised how far behind most federal universities are.
All that is left of most federal universities is the name. So, I am not saying that a little pressure is bad in a schooling system, All I am saying is that private universities have enabling environment compare to federal universities in NIGERIA

TheVictorious:


YOU DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW WHAT PATENT (AS STATED) MEANS!

kellyoneinamill:
they ( government and pastors) rob us of hard earned money and infrastructure in whatever guise. same them will go ahead and build universities to be better than the one the children of the people they robbed to build attend. they make it impossible for the victims to attend with their intolerable high prices. then later, they come and rub it in our faces say their "universities" that were built from "our" sweat better pass the ones wey we dey go and they expect me to graciously accept that, stand in front queue and clap for them? rubbish ni. btw this so called best university when they are offering scholarship eh the criteria are very ridiculous and before you fit get 100% scholarship no be here o. CU this, CU that we no go here word again. how many of your lectureers graduated from your school. dey their dey enjoy other people products come still dey make mouth. Park well

Statsocial:

Hope you know that citing a research work could simply mean you agree with just one statement in the entire research work. Secondly, even in ivy league unis some scientific reports and findings are later disproved with a more sophisticated research work. The whole essence of science is to prove and disprove.