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Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 3:22pm On Feb 28, 2017
obinna58:
Big bang theory is not a belief system Its just an explanation wether u accept it or not its non of my consign
Only fools accept it
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 3:29pm On Feb 28, 2017
Junia:


It actually makes you believe that monkey's turned into humans yet they still exist. Smh
LOL, I just dislike idiots!

It's better to be silent and be thought a fool, than speak and remove all doubts..

You don't know evolution, and you think you can speak about it.. evolution never said monkeys turned to humans, stupid!!

Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by obinna58(m): 3:32pm On Feb 28, 2017
Junia:


Only fools accept it
Lol
They explained big bang according to what they discovered, I doubt if I really accept the big bang cause if it might not be true but at least their is evidence backing it up, but accepting in someone living up in the sky with no evidence that just believe is far more creazy
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by felixomor: 3:39pm On Feb 28, 2017
obinna58:

Depending on the type of God u believed in, I don't have much to argue with deists cause they might be ryt about intelligent design but those who believed in God living up in the sky that answer prayers needed to be enlightened
All u have been doing is pointing fingers at people who believe in God.
You have not been able to explain anything....

I asked u for a single explanation and yet u cant provide...

The only reason for this is hatred for religion because o your love for hedonism.
Nothing more.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 3:40pm On Feb 28, 2017
obinna58:

Lol
They explained big bang according to what they discovered, I doubt if I really accept the big bang cause if it might not be true but at least their is evidence backing it up, but accepting in someone living up in the sky with no evidence that just believe is far more creazy

The universe and everything proofs the existence of God. This same big bang theory will tell you that the universe was supernatural. This is because they did all they could but couldn't fathom how the universe came about.
God is indeed great.
Maybe you also need to humble yourself and seek Him and you will find Him.
I was like you, but grace found me.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by felixomor: 3:40pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

Such hypocrisy!

Keep quiet, if u cant read.
You people blast religious people because of belief and faith.
Now you want to make explanation and use faith and belief.
You are the hypocrite!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 3:44pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

LOL, I just dislike idiots!

It's better to be silent and be thought a fool, than speak and remove all doubts..

You don't know evolution, and you think you can speak about it.. evolution never said monkeys turned to humans, stupid!!

Evolution ??
Tell me about evolution.
You cannot prove anything because you also read from a book or the internet.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 5:37pm On Feb 28, 2017
felixomor:


Keep quiet, if u cant read.
You people blast religious people because of belief and faith.
Now you want to make explanation and use faith and belief.
You are the hypocrite!
We don't make explanations using faith and beliefs mind you, the big bang is not a proven fact, but rather a theory established based on observable evidences... The big bang is a more suitable explanation to how we came than a magic being speaking life into things using words!

You can as well point me to any thing we've said and agreed on based on "beliefs"
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 5:42pm On Feb 28, 2017
Junia:

Evolution ??
Tell me about evolution.
You cannot prove anything because you also read from a book or the internet.



That's why I said if you don’t know things, it'll be better to keep your mouth shut..

Evolution although is not 100% fact, but it wasn't established by mere assumptions either..

There are a lot of evidence that supports evolution, like fossils of extinct human-ape like creatures (like the bonobos, Neanderthals).. And in our present environment, we can find our relationship to apes by our DNA similarities, which suggests that we came from similar descendants and we had to change to adapt to our environment over the course of years..

Evolution is not an ape turning into a human being!!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by felixomor: 6:09pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

We don't make explanations using faith and beliefs mind you, the big bang is not a proven fact, but rather a theory established based on observable evidences.. . The big bang is a more suitable explanation to how we came than a magic being speaking life into things using words!

You can as well point me to any thing we've said and agreed on based on "beliefs"

Please if u cant explain how the big bang gave rise to DNA, broke the laws of abiogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics,
It remains a belief, nothing more.
Besides, thousands of intelligent scientists have alrwady disproved big bang.
These are not even religious people.


Your "more suitable" doesnt even cut it.
You are only wasting time on the belief of big bang to commit your sins.

There is nothing logical in big bang.
The name "big bang" was even a mockery derivative.

Stop deceiving yourself.

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Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 6:15pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

That's why I said if you don’t know things, it'll be better to keep your mouth shut..

Evolution although is not 100% fact, but it wasn't established by mere assumptions either..

There are a lot of evidence that supports evolution, like fossils of extinct human-ape like creatures (like the bonobos, Neanderthals).. And in our present environment, we can find our relationship to apes by our DNA similarities, which suggests that we came from similar descendants and we had to change to adapt to our environment over the course of years..

Evolution is not an ape turning into a human being!!

Similar descendants ??
Well .. i won't argue
Believe what you want
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 6:18pm On Feb 28, 2017
felixomor:


Please if u cant explain how the big bang gave rise to DNA, broke the laws of abiogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics,
It remains a belief, nothing more.
Besides, thousands of intelligent scientists have alrwady disproved big bang.
These are not even religious people.


Your "more suitable" doesnt even cut it.
You are only wasting time on the belief of big bang to commit your sins.

There is nothing logical in big bang.
The name "big bang" was even a mockery derivative.

Stop deceiving yourself.
LOL..
I don't believe in the big bang! No scientist "believes" in the big bang!

I for one don't know how the whole universe came about and it's not as if I care to know!

Do you know your body is mostly stardust?? This in fact supports the big bang theory..

My problem with you guys, is that, you chose to believe that the "DNA" is so complicated that it couldn't have formed by chance, but you(as a theist) believe that it was formed by "speech and dust".. And that this more complicated manufacturer doesn't necessarily need a creator...

Your stupidity stinks!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 6:20pm On Feb 28, 2017
Junia:


Similar descendants ??
Well .. i won't argue
Believe what you want
LOL, go read up about evolution. Or read on "homo erectus", "Java man", "Neanderthals".. .

We don't believe in these things!! We've seen their fossils!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by felixomor: 6:32pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

LOL..
I don't believe in the big bang! No scientist "believes" in the big bang!

I for one don't know how the whole universe came about and it's not as if I care to know!

Do you know your body is mostly stardust?? This in fact supports the big bang theory..

My problem with you guys, is that, you chose to believe that the "DNA" is so complicated that it couldn't have formed by chance, but you(as a theist) believe that it was formed by "speech and dust".. And that this more complicated manufacturer doesn't necessarily need a creator...

Your stupidity stinks!
I laugh at you
Speech an dust on its own cant give rise to anything.

You trying to derogatorily reduce God's power to "speech and dust"
Doesnt work.
It may work to help you silence your conscience for 5 minutes.

But after a while, u find yourself running back to religious section for truth because you know you have lied to yourself.

Its a cycle, you can never break free from, till you tell yourself the truth or annihilate your conscience totally.

Keep wandering! undecided
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by enshy: 6:34pm On Feb 28, 2017
onyenze123:


John 8:32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

what is true without evidence? That why I left Christianity.

Where is the evidence for the existence of heaven and hell? is this existence not a religious construct created by the Christian faith to enslave the beautiful minds of human?

As for the existence of an almighty being called God I subscribe to deism. I believe there exist a super natural being that set things into motion. We can only discover his true nature by studying creation.
My dear, not proven truth but believed truth...
The Truth you believe is what sets you free and Jesus says 'I am the Way, Truth and Life....'
God wont prove that truth to you; He expects you to believe it as others did nd have done. No special treatment to anyone!
Now, did your parents prove to you how you were born?
The story about your lineage, didnt you believe it? Have you asked for proofs?
Its not conceivable yet how a creature can deny his creator, how someone would that no God exists, that science brought about this world? This thought is purely anti-christ and all in this category needs to repent asap!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by gabe: 6:36pm On Feb 28, 2017
I know u people of faith have been told not to read things that will destroy ur faith, but pls google proof of big bang theory. Pls, also note that the big bang event was billions of years before abiogenesis and are completely unrelated. Abiogenesis is also a different event from evolution. Please, i beg you, read before posting. Your brain won't explode. Also, remember, philosophical gymnastics is still not evidence. Thank you.

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Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 6:41pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

LOL, go read up about evolution. Or read on "homo erectus", "Java man", "Neanderthals".. .

We don't believe in these things!! We've seen their fossils!
I dom't have time to read it when i already know the truth.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 6:52pm On Feb 28, 2017
Junia:

I dom't have time to read it when i already know the truth.
lol, right.. Ignorance is actually what keeps you going as a religious person.. And you are afraid to discover the truth grin
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 6:53pm On Feb 28, 2017
felixomor:

I laugh at you
Speech an dust on its own cant give rise to anything.

You trying to derogatorily reduce God's power to "speech and dust"
Doesnt work.
It may work to help you silence your conscience for 5 minutes.

But after a while, u find yourself running back to religious section for truth because you know you have lied to yourself.

Its a cycle, you can never break free from, till you tell yourself the truth or annihilate your conscience totally.

Keep wandering! undecided
Holy sh-it!! Are you trying to find another meaning to the Genesis account of creation??
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by felixomor: 7:06pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:

Holy sh-it!! Are you trying to find another meaning to the Genesis account of creation??


Read what I wrote.
Its straight forward.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by benzics(m): 7:10pm On Feb 28, 2017
felixomor:


Read what I wrote.
Its straight forward.
Just for educational purposes, may i know how your God created humans and the complicated DNA?
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 7:23pm On Feb 28, 2017
benzics:
lol, right.. Ignorance is actually what keeps you going as a religious person.. And you are afraid to discover the truth grin
No .. i know the truth. The truth keeps me going.
The existence of God must be accepted by faith, but this does not mean belief in God is illogical. There are many good arguments for the existence of God. The Bible teaches that God’s existence is clearly seen in the universe ( Psalm 19:1-4 ), in nature ( Romans 1:18-22 ), and in our own hearts ( Ecclesiastes 3:11 ). With all that said, the existence of God cannot be proven; it must be accepted by faith. At the same time, it takes just as much faith to believe in atheism. To make the absolute
statement “God does not exist” is to make a claim of knowing absolutely everything there is to know about everything and of having been everywhere in the universe and having witnessed everything there is to be seen. Of course, no atheist would make these claims.
However, that is essentially what they are claiming when they state that God absolutely does not exist. Atheists cannot prove that God does not, for example, live in the center of the sun, or beneath the clouds of Jupiter, or in some distant nebula. Since those places are beyond our capacity to observe, it cannot be proven that God does not exist. It takes just as much faith to be an atheist as it does to be a theist.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by iSpirit1(m): 8:03pm On Feb 28, 2017
Hmmm!

One of the Reasons why some choose to be Atheists is because they claim there's no Evidence of God's Existence.


Lemme briefly share on "Nature and God"


Nature is the LAW(s) ruling the universe. Actually, they are Immutable. E.g the Law Of Gravity, The Law of Cause and Effect, The Laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy.

These LAWs reign supreme.

However, as the Bible has presented, God set all that in place. And wouldn't do anything on earth UNTIL humans pray to Him.

Prayer simply means INVITING GOD to work on Earth. He doesn't come uninvited.

Well, I understand that this is WHERE Atheists have problem with the Christian Faith. But, just to mention a Few Among others;

I've Learnt about the LAW OF GRAVITY BEING INTERRUPTED;

I've FELT the SPIRITUAL REALM;

I've SEEN a CRIPPLE RISE UP AND WALK AT A CHRISTIAN's command in Jesus' name.

I've SEEN numerous things which violates the supposed IMMUTABLE LAWS OF NATURE.

Do Atheists want me to believe that all THOSE happened by CHANCE?

Hell NO! It can't be by CHANCE!

Look up this LIVE HEALING BY A PASTOR on youtube



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrAdkGUMN4&itct=CBYQpDAYASITCK7JjuK3s9ICFcGCVQodQUgFelIcUGFzdG9yIENocmlzIE1pcmFjbGUgSGVhbGluZw%3D%3D&client=mv-google&gl=NG&hl=en-GB



You're free TO make Your research to confirm whether it's true or NOT.

And What Could cause such thing to happen if not God?
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by enshy: 8:16pm On Feb 28, 2017
iSpirit1:
Hmmm!

One of the Reasons why some choose to be Atheists is because they claim there's no Evidence of God's Existence.


Lemme briefly share on "Nature and God"


Nature is the LAW(s) ruling the universe. Actually, they are Immutable. E.g the Law Of Gravity, The Law of Cause and Effect, The Laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy.

These LAWs reign supreme.

However, as the Bible has presented, God set all that in place. And wouldn't do anything on earth UNTIL humans pray to Him.

Prayer simply means INVITING GOD to work on Earth. He doesn't come uninvited.

Well, I understand that this is WHERE Atheists have problem with the Christian Faith. But, just to mention a Few Among others;

I've Learnt about the LAW OF GRAVITY BEING INTERRUPTED;

I've FELT the SPIRITUAL REALM;

I've SEEN a CRIPPLE RISE UP AND WALK AT A CHRISTIAN's command in Jesus' name.

I've SEEN numerous things which violates the supposed IMMUTABLE LAWS OF NATURE.

Do Atheists want me to believe that all THOSE happened by CHANCE?

Hell NO! It can't be by CHANCE!

Look up this LIVE HEALING BY A PASTOR on youtube



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrAdkGUMN4&itct=CBYQpDAYASITCK7JjuK3s9ICFcGCVQodQUgFelIcUGFzdG9yIENocmlzIE1pcmFjbGUgSGVhbGluZw%3D%3D&client=mv-google&gl=NG&hl=en-GB



You're free TO make Your research to confirm whether it's true or NOT.

And What Could cause such thing to happen if not God?
Thanks for making the rich look poor, wise look foolish and the sane look mad!
For a soul that chooses not to believe the existence of God not to talk of redemption through Christ and prouds himself in some demonic beliefs that are logical to them should wait till Christ returns! The truth will be known without being told n proven.
O Lord I wait for that great day when all enemies of the gospel will both be humble and dumb before God. Their judgement will be swift! They will seek repentance with tears but twould be too late.
Come Lord Jesus! Amen!!

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Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 11:34pm On Feb 28, 2017
enshy:

My dear, not proven truth but believed truth...
The Truth you believe is what sets you free and Jesus says 'I am the Way, Truth and Life....'
God wont prove that truth to you; He expects you to believe it as others did nd have done. No special treatment to anyone!
Now, did your parents prove to you how you were born?
The story about your lineage, didnt you believe it? Have you asked for proofs?
Its not conceivable yet how a creature can deny his creator, how someone would that no God exists, that science brought about this world? This thought is purely anti-christ and all in this category needs to repent asap!


I have repented in Jesus name, Amen!!!

Are you happy now? It seems you have won a soul for Christ. Rejoice, for your reward is in heaven grin

By the way lemme ask you an honest question:

Since you claim Christ is the way, the truth and life... what happens to Moslems, Hindus, buddists, Jewsish... Our forefathers that worshipped various gods?
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by adepeter26(m): 11:54pm On Feb 28, 2017
onyenze123:



I have repented in Jesus name, Amen!!!

Are you happy now? It seems you have won a soul for Christ. Rejoice, for your reward is in heaven grin

By the way lemme ask you an honest question:

Since you claim Christ is the way, the truth and life... what happens to Moslems, Hindus, buddists, Jewsish... Our forefathers that worshipped various gods?



Lol, you get time self to be asking dumb people kweshion
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by iSpirit1(m): 12:21am On Mar 01, 2017
onyenze123:



I have repented in Jesus name, Amen!!!

Are you happy now? It seems you have won a soul for Christ. Rejoice, for your reward is in heaven grin

By the way lemme ask you an honest question:

Since you claim Christ is the way, the truth and life... what happens to Moslems, Hindus, buddists, Jewsish... Our forefathers that worshipped various gods?



Address my Post. Meanwhile, lemme address yours.

Yes! There are alot of Religions scattered throughout the Earth.

And each claims to worship a god. Well, in this case, how do we know which one worships the True God?

The 1st thing to get straight is that there is only ONE true God.

So, we're left to discover whether it's the god of the Hindu, Buddhist, Moslems or Christians.

How do we know? The god who proves himself to be God is the True God indeed.

Well, I'm yet to see which god proves himself as the God of the Christians. I can give you many instances where He has proved Himself. I'm a Living Witness and A Vessel of His Mighty works. Glory to God!

You can also experience this awesome power. You can also be used to do these Mighty Works.
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by enshy: 5:32am On Mar 01, 2017
onyenze123:



I have repented in Jesus name, Amen!!!

Are you happy now? It seems you have won a soul for Christ. Rejoice, for your reward is in heaven grin

By the way lemme ask you an honest question:

Since you claim Christ is the way, the truth and life... what happens to Moslems, Hindus, buddists, Jewsish... Our forefathers that worshipped various gods?



You must be so loving to be concerned about the destiny of your forefathers and not your own destiny?
You are such a love act for you ask about the destiny of Moslems, Hindus, Jewish, and not concerned about your own destiny!
Hear me: no religion in Heaven, no denomination there but SIN wont enter there for my God is too holy to behold iniquity...Moslem, Xtian, Hindu, Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostals, Apostolic, if any has Jesus, he will be there! The Blood of Jesus is the qualification! Accept Him today while you may! Death is imminent! Rapture is imminent!!
Now listen be concerned about your own destiny, the days of your ignorance God has winked at and commands every man everywhere to repent! Repent! Repent!! Repent Atheist!!! Judgment is coming! It will be swift!! You will be dumb before Him, you will have no case that day!!!
Im praying for you if by chance Grace will go the extra mile!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by enshy: 5:45am On Mar 01, 2017
adepeter26:

Lol, you get time self to be asking dumb people kweshion
Mr, did I hear dumb?
May I be dumb towards Jesus till death! But to the sinners and enemies of the gospel, surplus of speech and boldness by the Holy Spirit...No hiding place for them!
Hear me: Im sold out to Jesus, there is no leaving Him, Im finished!
But surely every sinner, God hater, enemies of the gospel shall be dumb before Him at judgment!
I cant wait for that day when they will seek repentance with tears and call God all sweet names they never called Him on earth. It will be too late..Seek God now why you may!
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 8:54am On Mar 01, 2017
enshy:

You must be so loving to be concerned about the destiny of your forefathers and not your own destiny?
You are such a love act for you ask about the destiny of Moslems, Hindus, Jewish, and not concerned about your own destiny!
Hear me: no religion in Heaven, no denomination there but SIN wont enter there for my God is too holy to behold iniquity...Moslem, Xtian, Hindu, Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostals, Apostolic, if any has Jesus, he will be there! The Blood of Jesus is the qualification! Accept Him today while you may! Death is imminent! Rapture is imminent!!
Now listen be concerned about your own destiny, the days of your ignorance God has winked at and commands every man everywhere to repent! Repent! Repent!! Repent Atheist!!! Judgment is coming! It will be swift!! You will be dumb before Him, you will have no case that day!!!
Im praying for you if by chance Grace will go the extra mile!

You are practically saying that 5billion+ people who are not Christ or don't regard Christ as their personal lord and Savior will definitely roast in hell till eternity?

You are delusional. Repent from this delusion before it kills you. Religion is indeed the opium of the people. They serve you this opium from the moment you are born clouding your critical reasoning. it's a pity grin
Re: For Atheists: Perhaps, This Would Help. by Nobody: 8:58am On Mar 01, 2017
iSpirit1:
Address my Post. Meanwhile, lemme address yours.

Yes! There are alot of Religions scattered throughout the Earth.

And each claims to worship a god. Well, in this case, how do we know which one worships the True God?

The 1st thing to get straight is that there is only ONE true God.

So, we're left to discover whether it's the god of the Hindu, Buddhist, Moslems or Christians.

How do we know? The god who proves himself to be God is the True God indeed.

Well, I'm yet to see which god proves himself as the God of the Christians. I can give you many instances where He has proved Himself. I'm a Living Witness and A Vessel of His Mighty works. Glory to God!

You can also experience this awesome power. You can also be used to do these Mighty Works.

Gods of Christians? hehehehehehe...

if Gods of Christians is all powerful why not destroy other gods since he is a jealous God and doesn't share his glory with anyone?

by the way, what do you mean by mighty works?

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