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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 12:26pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

My man, Im on my feet!
You just killed atheism and dealt the biggest blow on the atheists folly!!
I pray their pride will be melted. Amen

thanks u Sir, but pls teach me how to comment inbetween comments hole abeg, so I can be doing more killings for u smiley , I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 12:31pm On Mar 11, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:

I don't have a disbelief in God, because it is yet to be proven in the first place.

I only have the courage to admit ignorance on the subject matter. Unlike those who forget to distinguish faith from knowledge.

then from this day, u are no longer an atheist but an agnostic. I recommend u read about T H Huxley, he is the founder of agnosticism , I have lots of evidences for God to bring u to deism sha, smiley if u are interested whatsapp 07034362071, don't worry u won't have to go to church, if that's what u r scared of :b
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 12:40pm On Mar 11, 2017
ScepticalPyrrho:
To your last question.

We don't know anything about God.

strawman, do u agree God exists? yes, no or I don't know?
yes we do, from the evidence of the Big Bang we can deduce that the initial singularity (time, space and matter) started after the Big Bang before, since something cant come from nothing, it means the cause of the Big Bang is something, now if it is something what would it be? if our universe (time space and matter) began at some point, this means the cause of the universe by necessity will be timeless, spaceless and matterless hence supernatural, but not just supernatural powerful as well powerful and a creative force that fits the definition of God, there are other logical evidences supporting Intelligent creator, deism 101 smiley
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 12:57pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug:


then from this day, u are no longer an atheist but an agnostic. I recommend u read about T H Huxley, he is the founder of agnosticism , I have lots of evidences for God to bring u to deism sha, smiley if u are interested whatsapp 07034362071, don't worry u won't have to go to church, if that's what u r scared of :b

all these arguments on schematics since yesterday, almost almost 15 pages with back and forth on the meaning of words; each side supporting themselves with dictionaries, history etc and going exactly nowhere with it
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 12:58pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug:


strawman, do u agree God exists? yes, no or I don't know?
yes we do, from the evidence of the Big Bang we can deduce that the initial singularity (time, space and matter) started after the Big Bang before, since something cant come from nothing, it means the cause of the Big Bang is something, now if it is something what would it be? if our universe (time space and matter) began at some point, this means the cause of the universe by necessity will be timeless, spaceless and matterless hence supernatural, but not just supernatural powerful as well powerful and a creative force that fits the definition of God, there are other logical evidences supporting Intelligent creator, deism 101 smiley

go discuss these things with atheist cosmologists
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 12:59pm On Mar 11, 2017
Enshy, it seems you'll be okay with it if all atheists become deists
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Wilgrea7(m): 1:11pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug:


thanks u Sir, but pls teach me how to comment inbetween comments hole abeg, so I can be doing more killings for u smiley , I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group

use [.quote] to start the post and use [/.quote] to end it but remove the full stop in the quotes... for example

[.quote]I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group[/.quote]

i put the fullstop in the first and second quote for emphasis... when you remove the full stop it becomes

I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group

u see??
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:17pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
Enshy, it seems you'll be okay with it if all atheists become deists
No if all become Christians and follow Jesus as I am!
My cry, my desire is to the nations worship God...
Revival is coming, we are only preparing the way..
Come Lord Jesus, Amen!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 1:19pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

No if all become Christians and follow Jesus as I am!
My cry, my desire is to the nations worship God...
Revival is coming, we are only preparing the way..
Come Lord Jesus, Amen!

well, you seem to have been lost in your desire that you didn't see Blogthug is a deist

he's going to the same hell as me and Christopher Hitchens
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:22pm On Mar 11, 2017
Wilgrea7:


use [.quote] to start the post and use [/.quote] to end it but remove the full stop in the quotes... for example

[.quote]I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group[/.quote]

i put the fullstop in the first and second quote for emphasis... when you remove the full stop it becomes



u see??
Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, sorry for my late response..
I could only try, I aint perfect either.
Wilgrea7 just made it simple!! Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, ild be expecting several killings from you, your wisdom wont go down. Amen
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:29pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


well, you seem to have been lost in your desire that you didn't see Blogthug is a deist

he's going to the same hell as me and Christopher Hitchens
hopefullandlord, so you believe in hell?
I know blogthug is a deist but thats not the topic being debated.
So if I had a project topic and several of us are talking about it, an atheist makes a positive comment as per the topic, Ild ignore it cos he is atheist, nooo...On the subject topic, we are on same page and it ends there.
hopefullandlord, as it is you are my e-friend regardless of whether u are atheist or not so if on another topic, you share my views, I endorse you.
So you see I aint lost but you are! Gbam!!
Im not emotional, Im principled!!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Nobody: 1:34pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

hopefullandlord, so you believe in hell?
I know blogthug is a deist but thats not the topic being debated.
So if I had a project topic and several of us are talking about it, an atheist makes a positive comment as per the topic, Ild ignore it cos he is atheist, nooo...On the subject topic, we are on same page and it ends there.
hopefullandlord, as it is you are my e-friend regardless of whether u are atheist or not so if on another topic, you share my views, I endorse you.
So you see I aint lost but you are! Gbam!!
Im not emotional, Im principled!!


Standing ovation!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 1:38pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

hopefullandlord, so you believe in hell?
Nope but you do

I know blogthug is a deist but thats not the topic being debated.
So if I had a project topic and several of us are talking about it, an atheist makes a positive comment as per the topic, Ild ignore it cos he is atheist, nooo...On the subject topic, we are on same page and it ends there.

nope, I disagree based on your conduct in the few weeks you've been in the religion section


hopefullandlord, as it is you are my e-friend regardless of whether u are atheist or not so if on another topic, you share my views, I endorse you.

No you won't; you'll most likely ignore it and pretend it didn't happen

like I said, I noticed this by studying you

but there seems to be a kinda crossing the line these days, Christians have been arguing for deism more than they argue for theism so it ain't surprising seeing them support a deist

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:47pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:

Nope but you do


nope, I disagree based on your conduct in the few weeks you've been in the religion section



No you won't; you'll most likely ignore it and pretend it didn't happen

like I said, I noticed this by studying you

but there seems to be a kinda crossing the line these days, Christians have been arguing for deism more than they argue for theism so it ain't surprising seeing them support a deist
So uve been studying me?
You see if you dont believe God, how would you even believe he sent Christ?
There seems to be a graduation permit me to say.
And sincerely my opposition is against atheism and not your person or any other atheist's..Every atheist outside atheism is respected and loved by me!
Anyway, rem it is appointed unto man once to die, after this, judgment!
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:50pm On Mar 11, 2017
4everGod:


Standing ovation!
I appreciate my Bro In Christ
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 2:04pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

So uve been studying me?
You see if you dont believe God, how would you even believe he sent Christ?

there are many gods, he's arguing for a generic god, just a "creator god"

There seems to be a graduation permit me to say.

again, it would've been true if there's only one god; graduating from deism to theism doesn't necessarily mean one has become a Christian

And sincerely my opposition is against atheism and not your person or any other atheist's..Every atheist outside atheism is respected and loved by me!

I never accused you of being against us personally, I attack the Yahweh, Jesus, Allah ideas but I can count on one had the number of times I've attacked their adherents personally

Anyway, rem it is appointed unto man once to die, after this, judgment!
Blogthug doesn't believe this


honestly, theists (especially Christians) these days have watered down their arguments from Christianity to deism; I like it like that though
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:06pm On Mar 11, 2017
Wilgrea7:


use [.quote] to start the post and use [/.quote] to end it but remove the full stop in the quotes... for example

[.quote]I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group[/.quote]

[.quite] i put the fullstop in the first and second quote for emphasis... when you remove the full stop it becomes [/.quote]

testing testing smiley



u see??
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:09pm On Mar 11, 2017
[quote author=Wilgrea7 post=54484286]

use [.quote] to start the post and use [/.quote] to end it but remove the full stop in the quotes... for example

[.quote]I'm a deist by the way, also the creator of Nigerian union of deists watshapp group[/.quote]

[.quote] i put the fullstop in the first and second quote for emphasis...


agama bu, testing

when you remove the full stop it becomes



u see??
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:18pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


there are many gods, he's arguing for a generic god, just a "creator god"


again, it would've been true if there's only one god; graduating from deism to theism doesn't necessarily mean one has become a Christian


I never accused you of being against us personally, I attack the Yahweh, Jesus, Allah ideas but I can count on one had the number of times I've attacked their adherents personally

Blogthug doesn't believe this

[.quote] OK o,


honestly, theists (especially Christians) these days have watered down their arguments from Christianity to deism; I like it like that though[/quote]
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:21pm On Mar 11, 2017
[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=54485485]

there are many gods, he's arguing for a generic god, just a "creator god"


again, it would've been true if there's only one god; graduating from deism to theism doesn't necessarily mean one has become a Christian


I never accused you of being against us personally, I attack the Yahweh, Jesus, Allah ideas but I can count on one had the number of times I've attacked their adherents personally

Blogthug doesn't believe this

[.quote] err deists don't know what comes after death, we only believe that god doesn't interfere with humanity directly, what happens after death? no one knows



honestly, theists (especially Christians) these days have watered down their arguments from Christianity to deism; I like it like that though
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 2:22pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


there are many gods, he's arguing for a generic god, just a "creator god"


again, it would've been true if there's only one god; graduating from deism to theism doesn't necessarily mean one has become a Christian


I never accused you of being against us personally, I attack the Yahweh, Jesus, Allah ideas but I can count on one had the number of times I've attacked their adherents personally

Blogthug doesn't believe this


honestly, theists (especially Christians) these days have watered down their arguments from Christianity to deism; I like it like that though
Atheists revel in citicisms!
You profer neither answers nor solutions....Atheism is just hopeless.
An atheist who doesnt believe creator God, what can he believe about xtainity?
The Creator God is the genesis of our Faith..Read blogthugs post well, he said not gods as in many but God as in one and He is above all.
I dont care if blogthug is anything you call it or believe any other thing, if He preaches one God as creator and mighty, we are on same page on that!
Please bury that and concentrate on covering up the shame this thread has brought the atheists!

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:33pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, sorry for my late response
I could only try, I aint perfect either

let's give it one more try

[.quote] Wilgrea7 just made it simple!! Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, ild be expecting several killings from you, your wisdom wont go down. Amen[/quote]
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:36pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, sorry for my late response
I could only try, I aint perfect either

let's give it one more try

[/quote] Wilgrea7 just made it simple!! Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, ild be expecting several killings from you, your wisdom wont go down. Amen[/quote]
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:36pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, sorry for my late response
I could only try, I aint perfect either

let's give it one more try

Wilgrea7 just made it simple!! Thanks Wilgrea7!
Blogthug, ild be expecting several killings from you, your wisdom wont go down. Amen[/quote]
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 2:39pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

Atheists revel in citicisms!
You profer neither answers nor solutions....Atheism is just hopeless.

assertions


An atheist who doesnt believe creator God, what can he believe about xtainity?

what can a deist believe about Christianity?

they're arguing for a god that doesn't involve himself in the affairs of men

I see no reason to believe such cuz there's definitely no claim

The Creator God is the genesis of our Faith..
its the genesis of EVERY faith; see? when you guys argue for deism it becomes really hard to move to theism without bias
Read blogthugs post well, he said not gods as in many but God as in one and He is above all.

you and I both know his argument doesn't connect to Yahweh

I dont care if blogthug is anything you call it or believe any other thing, if He preaches one God as creator and mighty, we are on same page on that!
Please bury that and concentrate on covering up the shame this thread has brought the atheists!

I'm yet to see the shame

only theists have been hit round everywhere with no reasonable argument but the same old mediocrity of asking us to prove god doesn't exist

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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:39pm On Mar 11, 2017
enshy:

Atheists revel in citicisms!
You profer neither answers nor solutions....Atheism is just hopeless

OK sure

An atheist who doesnt believe creator God, what can he believe about xtainity?
The Creator God is the genesis of our Faith..Read blogthugs post well, he said not gods as in many but God as in one and He is above all.
I dont care if blogthug is anything you call it or believe any other thing, if He preaches one God as creator and mighty, we are on same page on that!
Please bury that and concentrate on covering up the shame this thread has brought the atheists!


Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 2:44pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


assertions



what can a deist believe about Christianity?

they're arguing for a god that doesn't involve himself in the affairs of men

I see no reason to believe such cuz there's definitely no claim
its the genesis of EVERY faith; see? when you guys argue for deism it becomes really hard to move to theism without bias


you and I both know his argument doesn't connect to Yahweh


I'm yet to see the shame

only theists have been hit round everywhere with no reasonable argument but the same old mediocrity of asking us to prove god doesn't exist


bro abeg show me how to reply between comments like u did, didn't understand what the other guy meant, iv tried and it's not working, thanks
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 2:48pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug:


bro abeg show me how to reply between comments like u did, didn't understand what the other guy meant, iv tried and it's not working, thanks

you add these characters [./quote] give your reply then add [.quote] to begin the next part

example
[quote author=Blogthug post=54486423]
bro abeg show me how to reply between comments like u did[./quote] your reply [.quote]
didn't understand what the other guy meant, iv tried and it's not working, thanks[./quote] your reply


remove the (.) to make it work
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 2:56pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug, you can reply the above post by copying and pasting from the "Example" part, removing the (.) aka fullstop I added after the symbol [ and clicking post
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by rhektor(m): 3:12pm On Mar 11, 2017
Blogthug:



honestly, theists (especially Christians) these days have watered down their arguments from Christianity to deism; I like it like that though

The same way Atheists has joined Atheism with science.
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Wilgrea7(m): 4:51pm On Mar 11, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


what can a deist believe about Christianity?

they're arguing for a god that doesn't involve himself in the affairs of men

I see no reason to believe such cuz there's definitely no claim

i tend to disagree just a lil bit... not all deists believe in the existence of a God that doesnt interfere in human things... the idea of a God that doesn't doesn't interfere in human affairs was born out of the conclusion that an omnipotent omnipresent creator would not want to allow suffering, evil etc exist in the world but the universe was clearly evident to have been created... hence the conclusion that God doesn't interfere... but some other deists believe things like evil, war etc were caused by man and its our duty to stop it... they believe if there is all good, we would not learn how to do good and we won't know the value of certain things... just as its only someone in Nigeria that will understand the value of NEPA... so these people believe the universe is our training ground and we are to solve these problems by one means... which is love.. there are also spiritual deists.. i agree to an extent with the deists who believe its our mission and duty to stop evil and also to an extent with spiritual deists... i agree with spiritual deists in the sense that humans are really disconnected from the spiritual... since you're an atheist.. lets just for reference sake, assume that the spiritual plane does exist... people of old were more spiritual than us not really because they had less knowledge of the universe, but because they focused more on spirituality than on science.. yes I'll agree a few went over the line by thinking the moon was a god or that some sicknesses were signs that some gods were angry with them.. but looking deeper I've seen that they were more interested in spirituality than in science... that's why alchemy(basis of chemistry) had roots in dark arts.. they (although not all) kept themselves spiritually inclined... also the reasons why Christians can't raise the dead,etc is because we're not spiritual... forget that hoo haa they do in churches.. even o.aroloye nd few other Christians here agree that what they do in churches isn't what is meant to develop us spiritually

spirituality isn't shouting die by fire bro.. sarasin once told me that selfless love was a path to the divine.. apart from people engaging in dark arts, i saw the truth in what he said.. i now understand why mothers tend to be more spiritual.. cuz they practice more of selfless love.. my point is... its not that God z not interfering in human affairs... its the connection we've lost.. prayer isn't communication with God.. prayer is a one way thing cuz we do all the talking... if it were communication, we'd be doing more of listening... so personally, i feel its humans that need to re establish that connection with the spiritual... but this is my own personal opinion tho gotten from my observation... its just my personal opinion
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 5:03pm On Mar 11, 2017
Wilgrea7:


i tend to disagree just a lil bit... not all deists believe in the existence of a God that doesnt interfere in human things... the idea of a God that doesn't doesn't interfere in human affairs was born out of the conclusion that an omnipotent omnipresent creator would not want to allow suffering, evil etc exist in the world but the universe was clearly evident to have been created... hence the conclusion that God doesn't interfere... but some other deists believe things like evil, war etc were caused by man and its our duty to stop it... they believe if there is all good, we would not learn how to do good and we won't know the value of certain things... just as its only someone in Nigeria that will understand the value of NEPA... so these people believe the universe is our training ground and we are to solve these problems by one means... which is love.. there are also spiritual deists.. i agree to an extent with the deists who believe its our mission and duty to stop evil and also to an extent with spiritual deists... i agree with spiritual deists in the sense that humans are really disconnected from the spiritual... since you're an atheist.. lets just for reference sake, assume that the spiritual plane does exist... people of old were more spiritual than us not really because they had less knowledge of the universe, but because they focused more on spirituality than on science.. yes I'll agree a few went over the line by thinking the moon was a god or that some sicknesses were signs that some gods were angry with them.. but looking deeper I've seen that they were more interested in spirituality than in science... that's why alchemy(basis of chemistry) had roots in dark arts.. they (although not all) kept themselves spiritually inclined... also the reasons why Christians can't raise the dead,etc is because we're not spiritual... forget that hoo haa they do in churches.. even o.aroloye nd few other Christians here agree that what they do in churches isn't what is meant to develop us spiritually

spirituality isn't shouting die by fire bro.. sarasin once told me that selfless love was a path to the divine.. apart from people engaging in dark arts, i saw the truth in what he said.. i now understand why mothers tend to be more spiritual.. cuz they practice more of selfless love.. my point is... its not that God z not interfering in human affairs... its the connection we've lost.. prayer isn't communication with God.. prayer is a one way thing cuz we do all the talking... if it were communication, we'd be doing more of listening... so personally, i feel its humans that need to re establish that connection with the spiritual... but this is my own personal opinion tho gotten from my observation... its just my personal opinion

this is interesting

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