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Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Gamine(f): 9:10pm On Jan 25, 2010
I was in church last sunday when the pastor preached about [b]how important our first fruit is.[/b]He defined first fruit as your first earning immediately you get job/contract and subsequently your first earning every year.One thing that puzzles me is that he said this first fruit should be paid directly to your pastor and not the church and he backed it up with the scriptures at Ezikiel 44:30.I am not here to condemn any pastor but want to be enlightened on this.Tx
How important your 'first fruit' is TO HIM.
LMAO!!
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by ceasyc(f): 10:59pm On Jan 25, 2010
d pastor try no b small
dem pastors r so flipping bold these days
in their cunny ways of stealing and ripping people off
bold cunny mother 4ker
NA WA OH

sow seed, give me your first salary, pay the church/
pastors 10% of your monthly or weekly salary or wotever u make
in the name of tithe
, the list goes on n on

look at all of dem living LARGE while a lot of people r suffering
N LIVING IN POVERTY, ITS JUST NOT RIGHT!


ole ole thiefy thiefy

God have mercy on their soul or should i use the old testament =
thou shalL not steal and an eye for an eye

dem go wait tire 4 my own 1st salary or wotever n d rest crap dey kip
preaching!
he/dem can kiss my black a$$
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by OmoOwens1: 8:57am On Jan 26, 2010
Kindly go through this: You will find out that First Fruit is maybe 1/60 of what ever, maybe farm produce of cash as in this era, NOT your First SALARY, You can give offering endlessly, I pay my 1/10 regularly but I can't be caught in this net of first fruit all pastors in Lagos are all saying.

It should be about fruits and farm produce AND NOT MONEY, WHY don't they ask us to give them enough food to eat instead of cash. Read through and God Bless you

FIRST FRUITS

FIRST FRUITS, that portion of the fruits of each year's harvest that following the biblical injunction was to be taken to the Temple in Jerusalem.
In the Bible
The Hebrew term bikkurim and related terms for the "first fruits" derive from the same root as bekhor, "firstborn (see *Firstborn). On the same general principle that the firstborn of man and beast belonged to the God of Israel and were to be devoted to Him, the first fruits, including the first grains to ripen each season, were to be brought as an offering to God. Every Israelite who possessed the means of agricultural productivity was under this obligation (Ex. 23:19; 34:26, Num. 15:17–21; 18:12–13; Deut. 26:1–11). A frequent synonym for bikkurim is reshit, "the first [fruits]."

Deuteronomy 26:1–11 contains detailed procedures for the offering of the first fruits, including the text of a liturgical recitation incumbent upon any who offered their first fruits in the sanctuary. The manner of oblation prescribed in that passage represents a distinctive mode, whereby the substances involved were not burnt on the altar but were merely displayed, and later assigned to the priests as part of their cultic income (cf. Num. 18:12–13; Deut. 18:3–5). On the other hand, Leviticus 2:14 speaks of minhat bikkurim, "a grain offering of first fruits," prescribing that part of it be burnt on the altar. It would seem, therefore, that at least some of the grain brought as first fruits was disposed of in that manner, although the prescription of Leviticus may reflect the tendency to accommodate older forms of sacrifice to the particularly Israelite practice of the burnt offering.

It is difficult to identify this minḥah within the context of first fruit offerings. It has been identified with the "grain offering of fresh grain" (minḥah ḥadashah) of Leviticus 23:16; but that poses a problem, since the rule was that no leavened dough could be brought up on the altar, and the offering of fresh grain mentioned in that passage was to be baked from leavened dough. The offerings of first fruits were both an individual obligation and a part of public festival celebrations, particularly the celebration of*Shavuot, also called Ḥag ha-Bikkurim, "the first fruits festival" (Ex. 23:16; 34:22; Lev. 23:16–17; Num. 28:26).

A sheaf of the new barley harvest (ʿomer) was offered on the second day of the Passover festival (Lev. 23:10–11, 15–16). According to the Mishnah (Bik. 1:3, 6, 9), in Second Temple times the pilgrimage to the Temple for the purpose of offering the first fruits could be undertaken anytime between Shavuot, in the late spring, and*Sukkot, in the fall (but see below), but the festival of Shavuot was the first date for this offering. A rite notionally related to the offering of first fruits was the bringing of the fruit of trees during their fourth year of fruit bearing (Lev. 19:23–25). In both cases, an offering was required to release the fruit, as it were, for consumption by its owners. According to Leviticus 23:17, the offering of fresh grain was to be presented in the form of two loaves of baked, leavened bread.


[b]There are no specifications as to the amounts or percentages of seasonal yield required for the offering of first fruits, but there does exist, on the other hand, a text for the recitation which was to accompany the offering, in Deuteronomy 26:5–10. A part of it has been incorporated in the Passover Haggadah. [/b]It consists of a review of Israel's early history, tracing Israelite origins to the pre-Egyptian period, and expressing gratitude to God for the redemption from Egypt. It culminates in an acknowledgment that as an Israelite, the one reciting the declaration is thankful for having been brought to the rich Promised Land, in recognition of which he is offering the first fruits of the land as a sacrifice. Only a few such recitations are preserved in the Torah, another being designated for the bringing of a type of tithe (Deut. 26:13–15).

Typologically, the offering of first fruits would seem to represent a very ancient practice, and yet it is not referred to in the historical books of the Bible, in descriptions of cultic activity, and most references are limited to the Pentateuch, post-Exilic literature and the Book of Ezekiel. The celebration mentioned in Judges 9:27, in connection with the grape harvest, may be related to the offering of first fruits, and a possible reference may be I Samuel 2:29. The Book of Proverbs (3:9) refers to the practice as a prerequisite to securing God's material blessings. As noted above, certain problems remain in reconciling the codes of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, and generally speaking, the biblical evidence leaves some gaps in understanding precisely how the rites connected with the first fruits operated.
[Baruch A. Levine]

In Halakhah
According to rabbinic interpretation the duty of bringing first fruits was confined to the seven distinct species growing in Ereẓ Israel, i.e., wheat, barley, grapes, figs, pomegranates, olive oil, and dates ("honey"wink. The fruits were given to the priests after the donor had recited the confession (Deut. 26; 1–11) acknowledging God as the one who redeemed the Israelites from the Egyptian bondage, and expressing gratitude to God who brought them to the Promised Land. The bikkurim were brought between Shavuot (hence its designation as Ḥag ha-Bikkurim – "the first fruits festival"wink and Sukkot. They could be brought as late as *Ḥanukkah, but after Sukkot no declaration was made.

If the fruits were stolen or became unclean or unfit for consumption, others had to be brought. A proselyte also had to offer the first fruits but he did not recite the confession as he could not say "which the Lord swore unto our fathers to give us" (Deut. 26:3). An Israelite (i.e., one who was not a priest or levite) was strictly forbidden to eat the first fruits; if he consumed them in error, a fifth of their worth in money had to be added as restitution (penalty). The Mishnah (Bik. 3:2–9) gives a vivid account of the first fruit offering ceremony in the period of the Second Temple. In the early morning hours, the people gathered in the open squares of the district towns and started their journey to Jerusalem, singing "Arise ye and let us go up to Zion, unto the Lord our God." The people walked in procession headed by an ox whose horns were wreathed with gold and silver, and his head with olive branches. The pilgrims were accompanied by musicians playing the flute. Rich people took the first fruits in baskets of silver and gold, while the poor carried them in wicker baskets made of peeled willow branches (which they gave to the priests together with the first fruits). The baskets contained the choicest fruits and had pigeons perched on top; these were sacrificed at the Temple. At the outskirts of Jerusalem, the procession was met by the Temple prefects and treasurers, and the pilgrims were escorted amid the cheers of the populace to the Temple Mount. There the choir of the levites welcomed them with the chanting of Psalm 30. Originally, everyone who could recite the confession did so by himself. However, in order not to shame those who did not know the text (and might, therefore, refrain from offering the first fruit) it was ordained that all people repeat the confession as it was read to them by the priest.
Those who lived close to Jerusalem brought fresh fruit and those who lived far, dried fruits.

The minimum quantity of first fruits that could be offered was 1/60 of the harvest. The first fruit had to be brought only from the harvest of the soil of historic *Ereẓ Israel. According to rabbinic law, however, this included also sore parts of Transjordan and southern Syria.

The first-fruit offering was accompanied by other shelamim ("peace offerings"wink and the pilgrims were bound, out of respect for the Temple, to stay in Jerusalem overnight before returning to their villages (Deut. 16:7). Like all terumah ("heave offerings"wink, the first fruits were consumed by the priests. A priest in mourning for a relative was, however, forbidden to eat them. With the destruction of the Temple, the duty of first-fruit offerings was suspended. The description of the first-fruit offering in the Mishnah Bikkurim is corroborated by Philo (Spec. 2:215–222).

In modern lsrael, the kibbutzim hold bikkurim celebrations on Shavuot which are evocative of the ancient Temple ritual. The children participate in a procession in which agricultural products are carried and donations are made to the Jewish National Fund for land reclamation.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:
IN BIBLE: E.S. Hartom, in: EM, 2 (1954), 126–8, incl. bibl. IN HALAKHAH: Maim. Yad, Bikkurim 1–4; Eisenstein, Dinim, S.V. Bikkurim; S. Safrai, Ha-Aliyyah la-Regel bi-Ymei ha-Bayit ha-Sheni (1965), 224–8; H. Schauss, The Jewish Festivals (1938), 177–9. See also bibliography to *Shavuot.
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Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Snowwy: 5:04pm On Jan 26, 2010
You know what? I don't dispute the fact that there are fake pastors but really why worship in a church that you are not sure of the integrity of the pastor/prophet etc. This is where this whole issue lies.
The church where i worship gives me assurance that I am in the right place.
Some people say the pastor is a thief. Yeah, but your money goes to God and this brings me back to the question I asked. Why worship in that church then.
Paying tithe/firstfruits/offerings is not by force!However, I pray God will make you see reason to.
However, don't wonder why somethings are happening for some and nothing for you.

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Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by tbaba83(m): 6:00pm On Jan 26, 2010
since when do u have to drop tithes to be blessed by God? see ignorance. i am blessed by God's grace not by money given to pastors
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by 9jaBwai: 7:07pm On Jan 26, 2010
Rouges in robes
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by texazzpete(m): 8:49am On Feb 12, 2010
Snowwy:


Paying tithe/firstfruits/offerings is not by force.
However, don't wonder why somethings are happening for some and nothing for you.

This is the same thing you people use to confuse others into parting with their hard earned cash.
in all your lengthy writeup, you talked about TITHE, FIRST FRUITS and SOWING SEEDS.
I see absolutely nothing about Charity, even when JEsus and the first Apostles talked constantly on the need for love and charity for the suffering.
This is why Christianity in Nigeria is fast losing the plot.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by serena001: 12:43am On Feb 18, 2010
Hi, I have learnt so much about First Fruits from a great preacher call Paula White

Check out the links and watch the videos, I hope this helps people to understand so much better. Am new to this principle, and I obeyed to recieve Gods Blessings for 2010.

http://www.paulawhite.org/firstfruits

http://www.paulawhite.org/pages/media_center

God bless you all
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Ndipe(m): 12:50am On Feb 18, 2010
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Enigma(m): 8:52am On Feb 18, 2010
serena001:

Hi, I have learnt so much about First Fruits from a great preacher call Paula White

Check out the links and watch the videos,  I hope this helps people to understand so much better. Am new to this  principle, and I obeyed to recieve Gods Blessings for 2010.

http://www.paulawhite.org/firstfruits

http://www.paulawhite.org/pages/media_center

God bless you all

Paula White is a very corrupt twister of the Bible and a con merchant; she needs to repent. Type just her name 'Paula White into google and open your eyes.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by dmm: 3:50pm On Apr 14, 2010
[tt][/tt]I have read many coments on this topic, to many of you, you need to read your bible and ask God for understanding, don't judge and curse who God has appointed, you might be just cursing your own self and family.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by waziriseif: 12:07pm On Dec 06, 2010
Yeah you should pay to your pastor being your leader that preached to u and prayed with you as he showed u the way by the grace of God until u got the job, Prov 3:9-10 says " Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops; then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine."

Also read Galatians 6:6-7, it says "Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor. Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

It's your pastor who labours for you. So give him what is due to him.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by otokx(m): 2:43pm On Dec 06, 2010
They go wait tire
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by Faithiphie(f): 8:58am On Apr 17, 2012
It gos 2 God rather,nt a pastor.
Re: Should Our First Fruit Go To The Pastor's Pocket? by brocab: 10:30pm On Dec 26, 2015
The Levite priesthood were promised the first fruits offerings from God, Pastor's were promised nothing of the sort.
Matter of fact-our giving is now a freewill, so it's up to us, if we would like to support the pastor we can.
But if the pastor is using scriptures to back himself up-forcing people to give him their first fruits, then we know its not scriptural.

ndidibabe:
I was in church last sunday when the pastor preached about how important our first fruit is.He defined first fruit as your first earning immediately you get job/contract and subsequently your first earning every year.One thing that puzzles me is that he said this first fruit should be paid directly to your pastor and not the church and he backed it up with the scriptures at Ezikiel 44:30.I am not here to condemn any pastor but want to be enlightened on this.Tx

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