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Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Giel: 11:46pm On Jun 21, 2017 |
Mindfulness: Honestly when I saw the Op's post I was just tired, The op tire me lol, 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Giel: 12:29am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Daboomb "I think" I understand you a little better now, you disregard gender equality because you think that the people that want gender equality want it just because they want things handed to them just for the fact that they are female. That is not gender equality nor is it the purpose of gender equality. I've been wondering why you've been hovering around this thread attacking almost everyone who believes in gender equality. By the way, I hope you know that your definition of equity is the same as the definition of gender equality? Definition of gender equality from Wikipedia Gender equality, also known as sexual equality, is the state of equal access to resources and opportunities regardless of gender. It is achieved through gender neutrality and gender equity, so what's the problem with gender equality? why trying so hard to rubbish it? as for your comment to me on marriage, everyone's marriage is what they make it to be. Try and reply me without insults and your "whining and sighing" speech. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:59am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Pidgin2: And who isn't treating you like a human being |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:01am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Tayeni:It's not feminism that achieved anything for women. Feminism has a different aim. The definition is a cover up. The man is the target in feminism I 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:03am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Pidgin2: Those women ain't feminists, hope you know? |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:44am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Estharfabian: Which opportunities do men have that women don't |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 2:21am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Estharfabian: Excuses. We have female role models in Nigeria. Come up with another thing 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by AyeeIdris(f): 4:26am On Jun 22, 2017 |
lexy2014: Doing him a disservice?? hmmm... let me give an analogy. Killing of twins. It was seen as bad luck. The generation who followed the custom didn't think it as wrong because thats all they knew until they were taught differently. Now today's generation are already oriented to know that killing of twins is wrong. Likewise the girl child. Our forefather generation grew up seeing the girl child being trained to be wives and mothers; go to the farm, stream and market. They were not part of the elders. They did not hunt or climb trees or were forbidden from certain festivals. (this is not a blanket statement because i know we have had few woemn leaders in our history).That is what they grew up knowing. imagine a situation where the women who fought for women liberation and segregation in the early 1900s did nothing, there is a huge possibility that the father would be grooming her to be a good and submissive wife. It does not make him a bad person. He does not see it as wrong. In terms of the African home front, you have to agree that the circumstances is increasingly unfair to the Nigerian woman. Times are hard and both parties need to bring something to the table now. A woman is now expected to contribute to the household, rum the he and train the kids and the man expects the status quo of wife to remain and still look presentable so that he does not "cheat". Women are human too. We are not infallible. Too much is expected from.the Nigerian woman, that's why more and more women are getting radical. We have seen our mothers live lives of servitude and perseverance. We don't want that . we demand a life of balance, of support , of appreciation. That's what modern day feminist want. No doubt feminism is grossly misunderstood . Some people think it is about being free to do whatever we like; wear whatever we like and be the chair boss at home. No. We are not looking to usurp the position of the man. We just need men to embrace some subtle changes, just like the people in the 'twins are evil' days and those in the ' women should be barefoot and pregnant" days. |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Nobody: 5:28am On Jun 22, 2017 |
cococandy: I am very fine. I enjoy the summer to the fullest. Don't we appreciate this season more after a long, cold, dark winter? I am looking forward to the next holiday. How are you doing babes? 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by cococandy(f): 5:41am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Mindfulness:Doing perfect. Enjoying Hawaii and have two months off from school. Couldn't be happier 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by lexy2014: 5:46am On Jun 22, 2017 |
AyeeIdris:of course u did d man a disservice. d man sent his child 2 school in an era when it was a rarity yet u still think d man was a clueless man who lacked d initiative about his daughters education. like I said neither of us were there but d evidence speaks 4 itself, d man sent his daughter 2 school. period. this is someone's father we are talking about who both of us never knew. just cos u are advocating 4 what u think is right doesn't mean u should say derogatory things about him.show some respect. if he trained his daughter 2b a good&submissive wife, when has that become a bad thing? if her father taught her otherwise how do think she would successfully manage her home as a wife, mother&VC in 1985? or do u think being a professor and VC is d same thing as owning a provision store? its not everything a man can do that a woman can do& vice versa and there shouldn't b a debate about that.if u want women 2 climb trees&hunt feel free. u work in d construction industry. u can try out a few of d real jobs in d field &c how it goes. I doubt if u are married and u talking about how other people should run their homes.when u get married then u will no that campaign is different from governance. U said "We have seen our mothers live lives of servitude and perseverance"... I don't no what u mean by this but I didn't c this in my immediate and extended families. Feminist advocate "women should b allowed 2 work"....at d same time u are saying "A woman is now expected to contribute to the household run d home&train d kids..." this y I say feminism is neither here nor there. Let me inform u, many men even those who aren't well to do, would rather their wives stay @ home 2 take care of d home. but its women who insist on combining home making with working. no one expects women 2 contribute financially. its women who feel they should, some 4 fulfilment and some 4 security just in case something happens 2d man.its all about understanding and what d couple decide is best 4 their home. so most of these things u are saying about men&women are very inaccurate and I suspect they are things u read cos that's not what is on ground. I c this "we demand a life of balance, of support , of appreciation...." and I wonder if u were not appreciated, would b working were u are working right now? u using d word "we" and I don't no how u could generalise. In ur own life, who isn't supporting u or appreciating u?speak 4 urself cos from my mum, 2 my aunties, 2 my sisters, 2 several women I have known, what u saying isn't just d reality. d problem with u guys and this ur feminism thing is that u ignore d little things& u start having grandiose dreams&demands 4 things that are already around u& that are there 4d taking. Are Nigerian homes&marriages perfect:NO. there are roles and each gender complements d other and despite all the hardship, Nigerian couples are doing a great job supporting each other 3 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Nobody: 7:10am On Jun 22, 2017 |
iamrealdeji:amor see finishing. Chai 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by shaybebaby(f): 7:23am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Mindfulness:Annoying when it comes from the other gender but overwhelmingly depressing when someone who is affected by the injustices our gender faces, justifies it. |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by NairalandCS(m): 7:35am On Jun 22, 2017 |
So there is still fire burning in this thread ?
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Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by NairalandCS(m): 7:36am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Btw, Dabomb You're the bomb! 2 Likes
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Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 8:25am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Mindfulness: Sure, to a mad person, everyone else is mad! You are too daft to understand anything, even if it was 'piped' into your empty head! 4 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 8:27am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Mindfulness: Two dunce, failures and "progress-by-boobs" agitators! Keep 'stroking yourselves' there, the world has moved on. 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 8:32am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Miggs: I welcome you too Sir. The feeling is mutual! The Mods were playing games with my handle, You know the score now. .....when they cant handle it, they ban it. NB: Only God is the God of intellect. No Man should ever even attempt to play God but l understand your genuine sentiments. Thanks for all the compliment. 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Kay17: 8:48am On Jun 22, 2017 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: Yes they do. Meaning gender equality is good! |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 10:10am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Giel: First things, first! That your advice should be reserved for your fellow feminist....if you whine, l will reply you with exactly that, so let us clear the air on that and get it behind us, from day one. Again, l bet you think you are responding to Lilliputs like yourself therefore, you coat insult and condescending language (as ll have highlighted in your post) and fling them towards me! Dead On Arrival, you hear! Dont you ever in your effing life use such words with me. I have a right to be on this thread, just like you and other wannabes abusing my post. I am not even trying to do anything, all these post are done in my moment of boredom and l just take them in my stride....like eating PopCorn. :-If l "try hard" on you, your menses will come three times within one Month! But l wont because l think you are "female". Now, to the few lines of sense on your post, specifically the definition you uploaded from Wikki. I will answer them in a separate post, below. 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 10:10am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Giel: the state of equal access to resources and opportunities regardless of gender The above is the correct and succinct definition of FAIRNESS and JUSTICE for all (irrespective of Gender).... and l support it 100%. So, let me start listing a few instances where such "equal access to opportunities" are ALREADY IN PLACE for everyone, proving that this Gender Equality Movement is a SCAM! - Driving:Anyone, Male or Female can get a driving license, can buy any vehicle and can drive it, in Nigeria. True of False? - Ownership of property: Anyone, male or female is allowed to own property, under Nigerian laws. True of False? - Engaging in Work, for a living: Ditto, true of False - Free choice of Job: Every human, male or female, has the inalienable right to say this is the work l want to do. True of False - Right to Education: Every child or adult, male or female, has the right to go to school (free education never discriminated against any gender) True or False? - Right to Inheritance: Under Nigerian Law, every Child irrespective of Gender, has the right to inherit their parents, when they die, based ofc, on the Wishes of the dead parent. True of False? - Right to own bank Account: Every adult (and even kids), irrespective of Gender, has the right to own a bank account and own money therein - True of False? - Universal Adult suffrage: Every Nigerian Adult, irrespective of Gender, has the right to vote, to contest elections and be voted for. True or false? - Divorce: Every adult in Nigeria, IRRESPECTIVE OF GENDER, has the right to chose their partner, marry them (within laws) and seek a divorce, if they are not happy with their spouse. True of False? I can go on forever but if you have more, you can add to it. But please do answer True of False, to my posers. Now, l am wondering what else, the female Gender still requires, that it still needs a "separate law" to empower them to do, that they cant already do now, under existing laws. The truth is that "feminists/Feminazzi/Women Equality advocates/etc" have a different Definition and agenda, when it comes to what they "coyishly" call GENDER EQUALITY. It has nadda to do with gender Equality because as of today, both Gender have EQUAL ACCESS to ALL OPPORTUNITIES, as long as they are WILLING, CAPABLE and READY for such opportunity. This is where the difference lie. Some Women are desirous of all opportunity (like some men too) but are either mentally incapable, physically incapable, UNWILLING to pay the price nor make the Sacrifice or are just NOT READY to take it Up. It is such calibre of Women, who now think that WHAT these (Men and Women) have achieved, through dint of hard-work, display plus harness of intelligence and determination, MUST BE HANDED OVER to them, through the use of "SET QUOTAS", under the guise of GENDER EQUALITY. Mind you, they would never admit that, this is what they are gunning for, Even the Devil will not admit he is Satan the Devil (Have you ever wondered why the "male gender" is used for the Devil? ...but Men have no time to complain anyway ) If GENDER EQUALITY was just as straight forward as saying "We want everyone, male and Female, to have EQUAL ACCESS to EVERY OPPORTUNITY..... No sane person will be against that. So many things have been "surreptitiously lumped inside" this Gender Equality agenda, since day one. Homosexuality was the last one l recall. Just read what your "fans" have written over the past few pages of this thread. Some want a situation where when they go into a marriage (knowing what the "rules of association are", before going into it) and then use such marriage as a "hook" on the throat of their husband. I have always said it is not by force to be married (man or woman), no one can force you to marry. if they sigh and eye, you just ignore them. But when you marry, you must be ready to conform to the norms of such marriage...and even if you decide against it mid-way, just LEAVE and go your way. But we we are seeing are women who want to ruin the man and take all he laboured, using marriage as a tool. This to them is GENDER EQUALITY! The right to emasculate men and reduce them to whimpering animals. But this, you wont here them state openly. I have read the "Equal gender Bill" rejected by the National Assembly and such are the manipulations contained there-in. I wont go into too much details herein because l think all we need to say, have been said about this issue and everyone just needs to be on the alert! For the few men who are smart enough to read in-between the lines, we know that we have made ourselves the Mortal enemy of the lazy, reap-where- you-did-not-sow women. Nothing spoil, we dey Kampe! We also know that the very few Women, whose hardwork, pace-setting intelligence, persistence, versatility and confidence have taken them to the very top, detest these band of women who think just because they are Females, they deserve to be treated to an undeserved Quota system that elevates them beyond their level. Those are the kind of women we celebrate. Let those who think just because they have a Bosom and some hairs between their legs, keep shouting "Gender Quota System", if they think that is enough to make them collect the same salary with a man who has proved himself worthy of what he earns, in the eyes of even his female employer, then O.Y.O If there is any way, the Female gender has been denied 'Equal Access" to an Opportunity that a Male/Man has as a result of the Man working hard for it, showing intelligence and perseverance, then state it and l will be the first person to champion it for the female gender. Dont just point to the opportunity a man has, DWELL ON HOW HE GOT IT OR GOT THERE and REPLICATE whatever he had to do, to get it. Then it is yours as well. OPPORTUNITY, IS FOR THE PREPARED. BE PREPARED WOMEN SHOULD BE PREPARED, so to say. Nuff said. 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by AyeeIdris(f): 10:12am On Jun 22, 2017 |
lexy2014: Training of the girl child was a norm in the 70s and 80s. Then it was acceptable. Women went to school in the 80s. My mother is a trained lawyer and she was born 1960. My grandmothers didn't get to school. It was not a rarity to train women in the 80s. Nothing wrong with beingvtrained to be a good and submissive wife as long that is not all a woman is being bred for. See. you assume that because I am a woman, I cannot do "real" work like bring an on site labourer or handle a forklift. Already you have put me in a box of incompetence without knowing my physical capabilities but because I am a woman, I can't do "real" jobs. You see zee problem You see how you assume my marital status? you keep affirming my position. So because I am a feminist, you doubt that I am married. you see life. And that ends this conversation. |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 10:15am On Jun 22, 2017 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: Your Head dey there Bro! 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:28am On Jun 22, 2017 |
AyeeIdris: Feminism didn't give any woman education. Civil rights did. Thanks 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 10:51am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Estharfabian: You are a dunce, seriously! You are just so mixed-up you are talking rubbish. Why dont you use a Dictionary first, before defining nonsense? The above is an example of what we are talking about! What manner of a FEMALE, says "Women are handicapped by nature"? Is that not a defeatist mentality in itself? Any woman that sees herself as "naturally handicap" by nature, will never achieve anything meaningful in life because on each occasion when her mates are working hard, facing challenges and surmounting them, all she sees and thinks in her brain is that "she is naturally handicapped and therefor cannot measure-up". This is called the "Blame mentality" - You blame others for your failures and point fingers, instead of accepting responsibility lik emen do, buckle up and move-up the ladder. A woman like the above are the types that are waiting for the Job to be dropped on their lap, for them to be promoted in an office because they have Boobs and some hairs between the leg, to have the same salary and position as that hard-working male..... because hey,., they can blame every failure and inadequacy of theirs on NATURE! - Can a man carry pregnancy for 9months? - Can he even eat food and remain constipated for just 9days? - Do Men breastfeed babies? Are these not one "immeasurable advantages" of women over men, one which they use to the fullest in terms of relationship with their children? Or have we not heard women tell their children and even threaten them about "if not in this my stomach you were conceived or if not this my Bosom you suckle for x.y.z years"? ...just to soften the child and make him/her bend to their wishes? Please all women in the house, whether you are for or against "Quota System" in form of Gender Equalization.... tell this woman to wake up and smell the coffee! Tell her to stop calling you HANDICAPED BY NATURE! Why would an employer want to chose a "handicap by nature", to head a very important aspect of their business? Men too can claim that their "3rd leg" is a "handicap of nature" if they want to be mentally lazy! (it hardens when they least expect it and causes wahala ). But hey, intelligent and smart people dont focus on their weakness, they maximise their strengths and develop their weakness! "A very Bad Farmer is know to blame his Hoe and Cutlass". Honestly, this discourse is getting putrid and debasing, it s about time we allow the "handicapped" folks to console themselves. The intelligent and successful women are having a ball while the handicaps are plotting on how they can get their "Quota System"! Lord have mercy! For the avoidance of doubt, below is the Dictionary definition of Equity EQUITY Dictionary Definition: equity ˈɛkwɪti/Submit noun 1. the quality of being fair and impartial. "equity of treatment" synonyms: fairness, fair-mindedness, justness, j[b]ustice[/b], equitableness, fair play; More Equity: Fairness and impartiality towards all concerned, based on the principles of evenhanded dealing. Equity implies giving as much advantage, ... www.businessdictionary.com/definition/equity.html 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 10:59am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Kay17: If men and women have the same opportunity to work, why the noise on gender equality? It's obsolete as Darwin's theory then 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:05am On Jun 22, 2017 |
AyeeIdris: You don't have to be a feminist to work on female empowerment. Flora Nwapa and Buchi Emecheta were into women's rights but they said they loathe feminism. Buchi even said she hates that word, feminist. Do you see the difference? 1 Like |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Daboomb: 11:19am On Jun 22, 2017 |
In conclusion, there are TWO TYPES of FEMALES that are crying and baying for these "GENDER EQUALITY" Quota System: 1.) The lazy and uninspired ones: These ones occupy important positions with commensurate pay, in various fields. They have achieved this much by flaunting and selling their bodies, in exchange for promotions and pay-rise. They believe that once they can "shake Boobs", it should translate to a "Pay-Rise" or once they can open their legs, then that open position should be reserved for them. 2.) The Fugly-Ugly and Unintelligent ones: These ones are just too Ugly to lay claim to having a body to sell. They are also very unintelligent and neither have the perseverance nor resilience for leadership roles but they still think they are entitled to the same "Pay and Position", as those Men and Women who are sound Upstairs and Downstairs. So, they have no future, except if "Gender Quota" comes to their rescue! We have seen no less than four of them on this thread today alone! In summary, all that Gender Equality says is that a HALF or 50% of all Positions should be RESERVED for the FEMALE GENDER. - All she has to do is "show-up" and half of Senate seats should be theirs - Half of Directorship in Govt and private Organisations should be reserved for her, once she can prove that she has Boobs and can form a V-shaped leg! - Half of Governorship positions should be reserved for the Female. - Half of University admissions into Engineering, Medicine, Aeronautics, e.t.c MUST be RESERVED for the FEMALE This is why l say GENDER EQUALITY PROMOTION is nothing but a deceptively coined "Quota System"!..... meant for the "unintelligent, lazy and probably hopelessly handicapped" Female A blessed day to everybody. 2 Likes |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by Iamdmentor1(m): 11:41am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Lol |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:52am On Jun 22, 2017 |
Daboomb: Why does Chimamanda even talk on feminism? |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 12:01pm On Jun 22, 2017 |
Miggs: Dude finished work with his posts. Sent these feminists to abyss 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Man and Woman are different.. Nothing like Gender Equality by lexy2014: 12:31pm On Jun 22, 2017 |
AyeeIdris:Alele-Williams is more than 80years old.if in ur opinion she went 2 school in d 80s, then when did she qualify 2b a professor and later a VC in 1985? every human being is in a box irrespective of gender.can a man get pregnant? like I said if u want 2 prove that u can do what a man can do who is preventing u? u are d only one standing between u and any ptofession u want to pursue. I no a very successful female mechanic who didn't sit down whining and complaining about gender inequality. she went 2 learn and she is d better 4 it.mind u she was tutored by d same men u say put women in a box. would u as a woman no matter d rate of unemployment go and join men in offloading bags of dangote cement? how many would u b able 2 carry? how many head pans of concrete can u carry from 7am to 6pm for 2500naira a day?madam pls stop deceiving urself. if u are married, then u should settle ur gender inequality issues with ur husband. a married woman wouldn't b here saying she isnt appreciated or supported. that clearly shows u aren't resolving ur issues with ur husband 2 Likes |
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