Tampinu:


We're taking over....
Seen? Rastafari and Him children taking over...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRi8oxWcYt4

Lyrics

Seh wah, mi juss seh bun Babylon but mi nuh care
I ain't giving up, keep on living up, I'm indigenous
Holy Emmanuel I King Selassie Jah Rastafari

Him live and reign in di heart of all flesh
Di conquering lion crown King of Kings
Lord of Lords wid him lioness, so hear mi now?
Repatriation is a must to Ethiopia, Africa

Rastaman wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Wi taking over righteousness mi declare
Wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Come on, come on mek mi see your hands in di air

Yo cause a full time now let the trumpet sound (Rev 8:7, Rev 11:15)
A full time now Babylon going down
A full time now mek di youth dem wear di crown
Yo inna di country and di town

Hungry be fed, naked be clothed
Sick be nourished, aged protected, infants fi cared for
Mi and Babylon nah go par
Tell dem mi and dutty Babylon always a' war

Nah go dip mi hand inna nuh punk cookie jar
Police bwoy fi locks but a mar him guh mar (Policeman supposed to grow his dreadlocks but he did mar)
Di soldier bwoy fi locks but a mar him guh mar (Soldier supposed to grow his dreadlocks but he did mar)
Through him and di Pope and di bitch waan go par (Because he wants to Par with the Pope and Queen Elizabeth)

Selassie flash di lightening dat mi tell di gun dar
Selassie roll di tunda dat mi tell di gun dar
Dem lost dem ways dem nuh know who dem are
Well, then mi tell yuh your da bright and a morning star

'Nuff a dem a brag 'bout seh dem a top an' all...
King Selassie is di almighty, yaah star
Emmanuel a di higher Priest, yaah star
Marcus a mi black prophet, yaah star

Di black woman she a mi black mother, yaah star
Selassie blaze him golden chalice when
(Fidel) Castro talk 'bout seh dem are smoke dem cuban cigar
Mi smoke mi marijuana inna mi van or mi car!

'Cause a full time now rise di youth from di slum
A full time now mek di fiyah gwan bun
A full time now speak di truth from mi tongue
Dutty Babylon yuh going dung yo yo yow

Rastaman wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Wi taking over righteousness mi declare
Wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Come on, come on mek mi see your hands in di air

Hear mi nuh hear mi nuh?
Mi nuh trust dem fi a minute nor second
Righteousness a dat mi come fi reckon
Tell dem seh listen wen Selassie beckon
Dem get stubbon through dem start to carry big weapon

Brag 'bout di magnum weh di laser beam deh pon
Man mi shot di bwoy wid a old rusty Smith & Wesson
Couldn't stop di powers weh mi a manifest on
Bun dem out dem cyaan come contest di Rastaman

Rastaman wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Wi taking over righteousness mi declare
Wi taking over and we've got nothing to fear
Come on, come on mek mi see your hands in di air

Mi go sight dem pon di show down
Pagan dem get throw down
Too hype run guh tell dem seh fi slow down
Mystery Babylon dem haffi go down
Dem a huff dem a puff mi building dem cyaan blow down
Written by Ras Muhamad • Copyright © Universal Music Publishing Group

Tampinu:



What is religion? What is Africa?

Don't get it twisted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-0CwnsfzY

This is the region, no religion! Eh?
Do you hear? Your communion? So much fusion!!!

This one inna dem face

"All now dem are look fi see God come from sky...I beg upon dem Jeezus nah get no reply..." _Sizzla

easymancfc:


If the soul does not live forever how are we to spend eternity in heaven
or what is eternity

blueAgent:







You are living in a bubble, wakeup and smell.the coffee.

blueAgent:



We will spend eternity in heaven with our transformed physical bodies not our Souls or Spirit as people are made to believe.


1 Corinthians 15:53

King James 2000 Bible
For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality.


Paul says this will happen:
in a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
He said that a trumpet will sound, the dead will
be raised imperishable, and the ones who are
still alive will be changed. The perishable must
clothe itself with the imperishable and the mortal
cloth itself with immortal. In essence, at this
time, our bodies which are perishable will
replaced with imperishable bodies. We will be
changed from mortal to immortal.

blueAgent:
Catholics to praying to dead saints is it biblical.
One of the customs of Catholics is to pray to dead Saints to intercede on their behalf in Heaven.This doctrine is based on the belief that dead Saints are alive and already in Heaven this erroneous belief is one of the biggest decits of Satan.We will take a look at this issue with the Bible as our guide.
First what is the State of the dead? are they living or do they ascend into Heaven immediately after death.
Psalms 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
Ecclesiastes9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
This Bible verses clearly show that the dead including the Saints are not in a state of consciousness but rather their thoughts,love,passions are all perished.
Death is likened to sleep,a man who is at sleep is not in control of his thoughts,actions or environment, same with death. Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 11:12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. 11:13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
So if the Saints are not in Heaven where can they be? The Saints are not in Heaven as we can see from those Bible verses they are all asleep in their graves or earth(dust).we will look at more bible verses to confirm this.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
This Bible verses confirm  that the dead sleep in the dust not in Heaven.
John  5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Even David the man after God's heart,a man who Jesus Christ  was named after 'Thou son of David'  did not ascend into Heaven after his death.
I don't think there is anyone more qualified to be called a Saint than David.but still David did not ascend to Heaven at his death he is still lying in his grave waiting for the resurrection. Acts2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Even David knew he was not to go to Heaven immedately after his death so he wrote in Psalms  17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I AWAKE, with thy likeness.

Considering the State of the dead,saints including Mary,Paul,Joseph,e.t.c while do Catholics still pray to them. It is apparent that they are praying to Idols and Demons in the name of praying to Saints.Mary,Paul,Peter,James,John,Stephen e.t.c  are all sleeping in their graves they neither eat,work, Think, or hear nor intercede in prayers on behalf of others.
This  evil doctrine has been sold to the public especially Catholics who believe that dead people go straight to Hell or Heaven immediately after death.
People go to Heaven or Hell on the Judgement day or day of resurrection not before then. Daniel12:2,John5:28-29 & 1cor15:12-14,1cor16-19.
John  5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,  5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
This bible verses confirm that the dead and Saints are not in Heaven but are waiting for the resurrection for if they were already in Heaven  the bible will not be talking about a resurrection of the Saints or the dead.what will they be resurrecting from since they are already in Heaven?
To Catholics pls deciet from praying to dead Saints they cannot hear you or intercede on your behalf.Only one name has been given to us by which man can be saved and that is the name of Jesus  Acts  4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Only Jesus not any dead saint or Mary or Paul or Pope.
We are expected to pray to God only through the name of Jesus not through any dead Saints John14:13 no other person can.mediate between man and God ,not Mary,Paul or angels but only Jesus Christ is our mediator 1Timothy  2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Christ and the Holy Spirit  which is the spirit of Christ can intercede on our behalf Romans 8:34,
Romans  8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Thank You.

MuttleyLaff,
Splinz, Openmine

easymancfc:


Still haven't answered my question...

I believe that too but That verse doesnt say anything about the soul dying... It only says we will be transformed...

blueAgent:




And where in the Bible is the Soul mentioned as having immortality?

blueAgent:




And where in the Bible is the Soul mentioned as having immortality?

easymancfc:


JUST TO CLARIFY THOUGH...

Immortality according to Webster means unending existence/exempt from death and Oxford means to live forever... both of which equate to or are synonymous with ETERNAL LIFE

BUT

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD'S IMMORTALITY AND HUMANS OR ANGEL'S IMMORTALITY

GOD IS IMMORTAL IN THE SENSE THAT HE HAS NO BEGINNING AND NO END... WHILE THAT OF MAN HAS A BEGINNING (i.e. from when we are born)..
I KNOW YOUR GO TO PASSAGE OF 1 TIM 6:16 AND I BELIEVE IT IN THAT SENSE...

BUT I DONT ACCEPT THAT HUMAN AND OR ANGELS DONT HAVE IMMORTALITY ... BECAUSE GOD PROMISED IMMORTALITY WITH HIM TO US CHRISTIANS...

1 tim 6:12 Fight the good fight of the faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called

Romans 2:6 For he will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and IMMORTALITY, he will give eternal life..

THEN FINALLY JESUS TALKS ABOUT THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD IN LUKE 20 AND HE SAID WE SHALL BE LIKE THE ANGELS... AND WE KNOW ANGELS DONT DIE... EVEN THE FALLEN ANGELS DID NOT DIE....
SO IF WE ARE LIKE THE ANGELS THEN WE CANNOT DIE EITHER UNLESS GOD CHOOSES TO ANNIHILATE US... OF WHICH WE KNOW HE WILL NOT...
luke 20:36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. AND HE WENT FURTHER TO SAY ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE BODILY DEAD... luke 20:38 Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living; for all live to him...

Raphael81:






What are u trying to say? Have you saved ur soul before thinking of Catholics or u are looking for multiple viewers? Don't panic when you meet Jesus you will ask him about all you need to know

Tampinu:


I'm living in Zion, it's you who need to wake up and smell the Ganja!

blueAgent:



Dreamer. You are living in a Shithole called Africa not Zion.
No light,running water,low life expectancy,poverty,high crime rate,third world nations the list is endless.

An2elect2:
Isn't the "mother church" awesome?

blueAgent:


Who will take you serious with this kind of comment? you should have refuted the points i raised on my article.
lets start from there.

Raphael81:




I am really really really really really really sorry bro, If you will be convinced, you will, if you will not be convinced, you will not. I can't explain what you will never believe. Peace

blueAgent:



Show me where the Bible says we should pray to dead Saints.

blueAgent:





As usual,you are twisting Bible verses to suit your false doctrine.The Bible makes it clear that the Soul can die Ezeikel18:4,and that the wages of Sin is death.most christains fall for the big lie that the Soul is immortal and hence Hell fire is for eternity.God himself has pronounced judgement on the Devil and fallen Angels to destoryed them and turn them to ashes. Ezekiel 28:17 "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee"
You could read from verse 1.
More bible verses on Hellfire click here.


www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell

Secondly the Bible in Revelation2:11,Rev20:6, Rev20:14, Rev21:8 talks about sinners to die the second death in the lake of fire.
How does second death mean immortality?
The word eternal and forever does not mean something that does not end.just click this link and discover the truth.

https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/30/t/hell-fire--a-twisted-truth-untangled

Raphael81:


No time to argue

easymancfc:


Eternal doesnt mean undending and you say am twisting sciptures... my friend... free yourself from heresy...
your amazing facts adventist site is not an authority neither...

ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THEN??

second death doesnt mean annihiliation

Jesus tells us the fate of the righteous and the Wicked in
mat 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

IF ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN HEAVEN FOR THOSE WHO MAKE IT WILL COME TO AN END ONE DAY....

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

I YOU OPINION FOREVER AND EVER WILL HAVE AN END RIGHT..

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel sounded; and
there were loud voices in heaven, saying,
"The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of His
Christ; and He will reign forever and
ever."

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

Daniel 6:26
"I make a decree that in all the dominion
of my kingdom men are to fear and
tremble before the God of Daniel; For He
is the living God and enduring forever,
And His kingdom is one which will not be
destroyed, And His dominion will be
forever.

Micah 4:7
"I will make the lame a remnant And the
outcasts a strong nation, And the LORD
will reign over them in Mount Zion From
now on and forever.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 5:11
To Him be dominion forever and ever.
Amen.

IF FOREVER AND EVER DOESN'T MEAN UNENDING THEN GOD'S GLORY AND POWER AND DOMINION AND KINGSHIP AND REIGN CANT BE UNENDING ACCORDING TO THESE BIBLE PASSAGES... AND IF YOU THINK IT MEANS UNENDING HERE... THEN WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY

here are more verses for you to ponder over

1. "And a second time they said,
"Hallelujah! Her smoke rises up forever
and ever," ( Rev. 19:3 ).
2. "And the devil who deceived them was
thrown into the lake of fire and
brimstone, where the beast and the
false prophet are also; and they will be
tormented day and night forever and
ever," ( Rev. 20:10 ).
3. "to whom be the glory forevermore,
Amen" ( Gal. 1:5 )
4. "Now to our God and Father be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( Phil.
4:20 )
5. "Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 1 Tim.
1:17 ).
6. "The Lord will deliver me from every
evil deed, and will bring me safely to
His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 2 Tim.
4:18 ).
7. "equip you in every good thing to do
His will, working in us that which is
pleasing in His sight, through Jesus
Christ, to whom be the glory forever
and ever. Amen," ( Heb. 13:21 ).
8. "Whoever speaks, let him speak, as it
were, the utterances of God; whoever
serves, let him do so as by the
strength which God supplies; so that in
all things God may be glorified through
Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the
glory and dominion forever and ever.
Amen," ( 1 Pet. 4:11 ).
9. "and He has made us to be a kingdom,
priests to His God and Father; to Him
be the glory and the dominion forever
and ever. Amen," ( Rev. 1:6 ).
10. "and the living One; and I was dead,
and behold, I am alive forevermore, and
I have the keys of death and of
Hades," ( Rev. 1:18 ).
11. "And when the living creatures give
glory and honor and thanks to Him who
sits on the throne, to Him who lives
forever and ever," ( Rev. 4:9 ).
12. "the twenty-four elders will fall down
before Him who sits on the throne, and
will worship Him who lives forever and
ever, and will cast their crowns before
the throne," ( Rev. 4:10 ).
13. "And every created thing which is in
heaven and on the earth and under the
earth and on the sea, and all things in
them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits
on the throne, and to the Lamb, be
blessing and honor and glory and
dominion forever and ever," ( Rev.
5:13 ).
14. "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor and power
and might, be to our God forever and
ever. Amen," ( Rev. 7:12 ).
15. "and swore by Him who lives forever
and ever, who created heaven and the
things in it, and the earth and the
things in it, and the sea and the things
in it, that there shall be delay no
longer," ( Rev. 10:6 ).
16. "And the seventh angel sounded; and
there arose loud voices in heaven,
saying, 'The kingdom of the world has
become the kingdom of our Lord, and
of His Christ; and He will reign forever
and ever,'" ( Rev. 11:15 ).
17. "And one of the four living creatures
gave to the seven angels seven golden
bowls full of the wrath of God, who
lives forever and ever," ( Rev. 15:7 ).
18. "And there shall no longer be any
night; and they shall not have need of
the light of a lamp nor the light of the
sun, because the Lord God shall
illumine them; and they shall reign
forever and ever," ( Rev. 22:5 ).

easymancfc:


Eternal doesnt mean undending and you say am twisting sciptures... my friend... free yourself from heresy...
your amazing facts adventist site is not an authority neither...

ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING

WHAT DOES IT MEAN THEN??

second death doesnt mean annihiliation

Jesus tells us the fate of the righteous and the Wicked in
mat 25:46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

IF ETERNAL DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN HEAVEN FOR THOSE WHO MAKE IT WILL COME TO AN END ONE DAY....

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

I YOU OPINION FOREVER AND EVER WILL HAVE AN END RIGHT..

Revelation 11:15
Then the seventh angel sounded; and
there were loud voices in heaven, saying,
"The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of His
Christ; and He will reign forever and
ever."

Psalm 146:10
The LORD will reign forever, Your God, O
Zion, to all generations. Praise the
LORD!

Psalm 10:16
The LORD is King forever and ever;
Nations have perished from His land.

Daniel 6:26
"I make a decree that in all the dominion
of my kingdom men are to fear and
tremble before the God of Daniel; For He
is the living God and enduring forever,
And His kingdom is one which will not be
destroyed, And His dominion will be
forever.

Micah 4:7
"I will make the lame a remnant And the
outcasts a strong nation, And the LORD
will reign over them in Mount Zion From
now on and forever.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Peter 5:11
To Him be dominion forever and ever.
Amen.

IF FOREVER AND EVER DOESN'T MEAN UNENDING THEN GOD'S GLORY AND POWER AND DOMINION AND KINGSHIP AND REIGN CANT BE UNENDING ACCORDING TO THESE BIBLE PASSAGES... AND IF YOU THINK IT MEANS UNENDING HERE... THEN WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY

here are more verses for you to ponder over

1. "And a second time they said,
"Hallelujah! Her smoke rises up forever
and ever," ( Rev. 19:3 ).
2. "And the devil who deceived them was
thrown into the lake of fire and
brimstone, where the beast and the
false prophet are also; and they will be
tormented day and night forever and
ever," ( Rev. 20:10 ).
3. "to whom be the glory forevermore,
Amen" ( Gal. 1:5 )
4. "Now to our God and Father be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( Phil.
4:20 )
5. "Now to the King eternal, immortal,
invisible, the only God, be honor and
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 1 Tim.
1:17 ).
6. "The Lord will deliver me from every
evil deed, and will bring me safely to
His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the
glory forever and ever. Amen," ( 2 Tim.
4:18 ).
7. "equip you in every good thing to do
His will, working in us that which is
pleasing in His sight, through Jesus
Christ, to whom be the glory forever
and ever. Amen," ( Heb. 13:21 ).
8. "Whoever speaks, let him speak, as it
were, the utterances of God; whoever
serves, let him do so as by the
strength which God supplies; so that in
all things God may be glorified through
Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the
glory and dominion forever and ever.
Amen," ( 1 Pet. 4:11 ).
9. "and He has made us to be a kingdom,
priests to His God and Father; to Him
be the glory and the dominion forever
and ever. Amen," ( Rev. 1:6 ).
10. "and the living One; and I was dead,
and behold, I am alive forevermore, and
I have the keys of death and of
Hades," ( Rev. 1:18 ).
11. "And when the living creatures give
glory and honor and thanks to Him who
sits on the throne, to Him who lives
forever and ever," ( Rev. 4:9 ).
12. "the twenty-four elders will fall down
before Him who sits on the throne, and
will worship Him who lives forever and
ever, and will cast their crowns before
the throne," ( Rev. 4:10 ).
13. "And every created thing which is in
heaven and on the earth and under the
earth and on the sea, and all things in
them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits
on the throne, and to the Lamb, be
blessing and honor and glory and
dominion forever and ever," ( Rev.
5:13 ).
14. "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom
and thanksgiving and honor and power
and might, be to our God forever and
ever. Amen," ( Rev. 7:12 ).
15. "and swore by Him who lives forever
and ever, who created heaven and the
things in it, and the earth and the
things in it, and the sea and the things
in it, that there shall be delay no
longer," ( Rev. 10:6 ).
16. "And the seventh angel sounded; and
there arose loud voices in heaven,
saying, 'The kingdom of the world has
become the kingdom of our Lord, and
of His Christ; and He will reign forever
and ever,'" ( Rev. 11:15 ).
17. "And one of the four living creatures
gave to the seven angels seven golden
bowls full of the wrath of God, who
lives forever and ever," ( Rev. 15:7 ).
18. "And there shall no longer be any
night; and they shall not have need of
the light of a lamp nor the light of the
sun, because the Lord God shall
illumine them; and they shall reign
forever and ever," ( Rev. 22:5 ).

blueAgent:



Same twisting of Bible verses.

blueAgent:



I never said the adventist site had any authority. the only authority that is acceptable is the one of the Bible and the Adventist views on there site is backed by real bible verses.Explain to me how the Devil the genesis of evil would be destoryed while sinners would burn for eternity or tell me what the Bible meant when it said sinners will face the second death

easymancfc:


So if i or any other christian quotes the bible as our authority.. we are twisting it... but the adventist church always interprets it correctly right?

1. I never told you that the devil would be destroyed.... while sinners would suffer eternally...
the devil was an angel (lucifer) and ANGELS CANNOT DIE as Jesus said in luke 20: 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection..
The devil and sinners will suffer together as the bible says in mat 25:41, rev 14:11, Rev 20:10 etc which are quoted below..

2. The second death is not annihilation as your church wrongly teach.. it is also called the LAKE OF FIRE... BUT IT NO WHERE MENTIONS THAT EXISTENCE CEASES THERE...

Rev 21: 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the LAKE that burns with FIRE and brimstone, WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH .”

Rev20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH, THE LAKE OF FIRE; 15 and if any one’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE.
So the Bible calls the "LAKE OF FIRE" THE SECOND DEATH...

AND THAT'S WHERE THE DEVIL AND ALL SINNERS WILL BE.. AND THEY WILL BE TORMENTED THEIR FOREVER AND EVER...
Matthew 25:41
"Then He will also say to those on His
left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones,
into the ETERNAL FIRE WHICH HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS;
rev 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER.

IT DOESNT MENTION ANNIHILATION OR THAT THEY WILL CEASE TO EXIST...

and it agrees with the rest of the bible...
ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:31-46, Daniel 12:2)

Dan 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to EVERLASTING LIFE, and some to shame and EVERLASTING CONTEMPT.

mat 25: 46 And they will go away into ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, but the righteous into ETERNAL LIFE .”
more bible passages for you to ponder
mark 9:43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the UNQUENCHABLE fire.
48 where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.

Hebrews 6:2
of instruction about washings and laying
on of hands, and the resurrection of the
dead and ETERNAL JUDGEMENT .


ETERNAL = EVERLASTING = UNENDING = FOREVER AND EVER..

HOW CAN THE PUNISHMENT OR REWARD BE ETERNAL IF THOSE WHO ARE REWARDED OR PUNISHED ARE NOT

blueAgent:




Where is it written that angels cannot die?

blueAgent:



It is obvious you have no facts to back your claim.

easymancfc:

It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

easymancfc:

It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

easymancfc:

It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

easymancfc:

It somewhere in there...

but just in case you didn't see it... JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT IN LUKE 20

KJV
Luke 20: 36a neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels;

RSVCE
Luke 20:36a 36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels

THEY CANNOT DIE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS MEANING ANGELS CANNOT DIE...

easymancfc:

It seems if you cant refute an argument you accuse the person of twisting scripture... Who gave you the authority to accuse someone of twisting scripture??
Are you the sole interpreter??
Answer the simple question then..
You said forever or eternal doesnt mean unending... now all those passages relating to God having glory and dominion and power and kingship forever and ever or eternally..

IF FOR YOU ETERNAL OR FOREVER DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN WILL GOD'S DOMINION OR POWER OR GLORY OR REIGN COME TO AN END

IF NOT.. WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY FROM ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:46) OR THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT RISING FOREVER AND EVER (rev 14: 11)

i await your response

easymancfc:

It seems if you cant refute an argument you accuse the person of twisting scripture... Who gave you the authority to accuse someone of twisting scripture??
Are you the sole interpreter??
Answer the simple question then..
You said forever or eternal doesnt mean unending... now all those passages relating to God having glory and dominion and power and kingship forever and ever or eternally..

IF FOR YOU ETERNAL OR FOREVER DOESNT MEAN UNENDING THEN WILL GOD'S DOMINION OR POWER OR GLORY OR REIGN COME TO AN END

IF NOT.. WHY DO YOU INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY FROM ETERNAL PUNISHMENT (mat 25:46) OR THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT RISING FOREVER AND EVER (rev 14: 11)

i await your response