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Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by branhampaul: 11:32am On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:agreed. and theism is the antithesis of atheism . So please there is no similarity between deism and atheism . Stop confusing yourself.so you as a deist, who is that god of yours? You still shoot yourself in the foot because you are admitting that the bible is true.cite where I stated so? The bible explains why the earth is no longer like that - idyllic , resplendent etc - because it has been corrupted because of sin . So why don't you accept this?guy, your getting me wrong, I only cited the bible as a scenerio. You claimed that you were a deist yet you understand what 'First Cause' means ? Looks like someone liedno disputing with you. lets assumed I lied, what do you mean by "First Cause"? |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by JackBizzle: 11:33am On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: It was at this comment that spacetacular's argument was destroyed. 3 Likes |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by spacetacular(f): 11:34am On Jul 18, 2017 |
NairalandSARS: Alright then so the default state of man is a lack of belief and I already defined Lack to mean a deficiency or absence of something needed, desirable, or customary" Even the dictionary disagrees with your position based on the word LACK. You got introduced at age 4. You got introduced to what RELIGION or JESUS? I bet it was RELIGION because at 4 you couldn't even entirely dress yourself yet how much more making life impacting decisions. So how did you break away? That is the epiphany I wish to read about. |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by JackBizzle: 11:35am On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular:. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by branhampaul: 11:36am On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular:so how is that your problem? |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by spacetacular(f): 11:37am On Jul 18, 2017 |
branhampaul: You asked me to show you and prove it to you that you actually said so by yourself under no compulsion. Can we got further now by reading about the condition of the world that led you to atheism? |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by branhampaul: 11:39am On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular: |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by CatfishBilly: 11:41am On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:So, all the philosophers that rejected how you guys "deduced" your existence of god are bereft of intelligence? The fuckkking irony, man. 1 Like |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by spacetacular(f): 11:44am On Jul 18, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Are those philosophers who accepted and also deduced the existence of God also bereft of intelligence? You are an acclaimed doctor and arrived at your atheism due to what you said were "unanswered prayers" in your hospital (yes I read it in your writings). Can you say this statement holds true IN ALL HOSPITALS worldwide? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:47am On Jul 18, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Which philosophers ? The greatest minds and philosophers in the history of mankind all acknowledged the existence of God . And they contributed immensely to theistic philosophy . We are talking of geniuses and supergeniuses , not scoffers and yahoos 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by NairalandSARS: 11:50am On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular: I never said I became a theist. I said that I was introduced to the God idea, whether I believed or not is a different matter. My point is that before the "introduction" i didn't have the sligthest concept of God. 1. One must have a concept of something before believing in it. You agree? 2. prior to the "introduction", I didn't have a concept of God, hence I didn't have a belief in the existence of God. You agree? 3 from 1 and 2 above, It can be deduced that prior to the "introduction" I lacked a belief in the existence of God, and thus I was an Atheist by default. Agree? |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by spacetacular(f): 11:52am On Jul 18, 2017 |
NairalandSARS: Did you read the definition of the word LACK at all? |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by spacetacular(f): 11:54am On Jul 18, 2017 |
I have got to run. Be back in a bit. |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by branhampaul: 11:57am On Jul 18, 2017 |
Spacetacular, stop trolling.. |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by felixomor: 12:01pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Hehehehe, no That one is not an atheist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by CatfishBilly: 12:03pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
spacetacular:In my own view, I don't think so, but that was what your buddy princessebuka implied. You are an acclaimed doctor and arrived at your atheism due to what you said were "unanswered prayers" in your hospital (yes I read it in your writings). Can you say this statement holds true IN ALL HOSPITALS worldwide?Unanswered prayers for patients was a small part of the reason why I became an atheist. How people tend to view their unanswered prayers is up to them, but I'm definitely not following a practice that it's success average is no better than chance. 1 Like |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by CatfishBilly: 12:05pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Yea, and unicorns exist and I have a fire breathing dragon. In spite of a meta analysis which clearly shows that your position is wrong, you still choose to believe it? How do you like your cherries? Pink or Red? 3 Likes |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by NairalandSARS: 12:06pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Really? I could read very well at the age of two, probably faster than you are able to read now. So stop assuming. 5 Likes |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:21pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
felixomor: I've been asked by two atheists to explain what 'First Cause' means . I also asked them to tell me whether atheism is the rejection of the existence of an entity because it is deified or it is the rejection of the deification of an entity , no reasonable response . Catfishbilly and hopefullandlord acted like they didnt see the question 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by NairalandSARS: 12:24pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: And you were asked to give a clear definition of First Cause. |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by ambassagod: 12:27pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Then doesn't that simply mean that, there is such thing as a creator and that the world never popped out one day? Can i have debate with you on this topic again? I have had an argument with you here before, where you outright failed miserably. But, i don't know how far you have learnt from it tho. |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:27pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Lies . Doctors affirm to the efficacy of prayers . The doctors I know are very religious . Plus Every time a story validating the belief in spirits and afterlife show up on daily mail UK , top comments are from mainly medical practitioners who attest to the veracity of the stories because they share these uncanny experiences with their patients . How people tend to view their unanswered prayers is up to them, but I'm definitely not following a practice that it's success average is no better than chance. Deists reject miracles , prayers and other supernatural occurrences and they acknowledge the existence of God . Please find another excuse abeg . |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by ambassagod: 12:29pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
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Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by hopefulLandlord: 12:29pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
ambassagod: I've told you many times that I'm ready when you are |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by ambassagod: 12:30pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
iamgenius: It is actually a coined up word to take his place of God. As in "Allah" "Yaweh". |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by hopefulLandlord: 12:30pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
ambassagod: look! someone that's not dumb but goes around calling anyone that disagrees with him dumb 6 Likes |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by ambassagod: 12:31pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Okay |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:32pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
NairalandSARS: I don't think you understand the ludicrousness of your request . |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by ambassagod: 12:33pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Actually, i didn't say you are dumb. That's a question that needs "YES OR NO". |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by NairalandSARS: 12:38pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: mr, when you make an argument do well to clearly define your key terms, because they are what make or break your argument. We can't have you changing the meaning of your key terms in the middle of the argument, as you always do. 4 Likes |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by felixomor: 12:43pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Brother, I am not surprised. Atheists dont care about knowledge. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help Needed From Atheist Friends On This Website. by CatfishBilly: 12:46pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:I don't care about your anecdotes. Prayers have been put to test, by the Templeton foundation no less and it came up short. You can process that information anyhow you see fit. Deists reject miracles , prayers and other supernatural occurrences and they acknowledge the existence of God . Please find another excuse abeg .See me see wahala. Is it a must be believe in a god or supreme being? Deists reject miracles, I went a step further and rejected the ridiculous idea of a supreme being. End of fuckkking story. Deal with it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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