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Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by plaetton: 5:12am On Aug 28, 2017
Because atheism is not a philosophical proposition, I find no need to wear my atheistic worldview as a badge. I tolerate the fact that the far majority of people I come into contact with everyday have one religious belief or another.
But what I cannot ever seem to understand is why Christians, who enjoy and relish advertising and promoting their own God /Jesus worldviews, actually seen to melt down into tantrums and convulsions whenever they encounter an atheist.

I have experienced this too many times, and have lost potentially good friendships with people of the Christian faith who are very very eager to preach their silly unsolicited stone age beliefs to me, but seem to go into convulsions when I reveal atheistic worldview to them.

Does it not mean that the entire edifice of faith and beliefs are built upon, based upon , and rely solely upon self- validations ?

Like I asserted in a recent thread, the entire edifice of religious belief and faith , gods and saviours , relies on acceptance , and then shared acceptance of same by others.
God begins to die when people, people like me, begin to reject the notion.

I really want to understand how a Christian mind reacts when they encounter a live atheist. I have seen the same repeating pattern of disappointment, resentment and a complex that follows whenever a Christian forces me to assert my atheistic worldview.

Their reactions and subsequent attitudes towards me is proof that religious belief is like a psychological Ponzi scheme, whereby everyone feels or receives Validation when the person above or below you reasserts or revalidates the same nonsense that you believe as your primary worldview.
When someone, an atheist like me, Threatens to invalidate that worldview, then the entire psychological Ponzi scheme becomes at risk, vulnerable to dismantling.

I had an encounter with a friend yesterday, a religious nut, who had no idea that I was an atheist.
In typical fashion, he provoked an argument on religion, but when I countered with facts, I could immediately see the melt down on his countenance. He couldn't stand the argument, because he had no facts, so he quickly disappeared. I know that that is probably the end of budding friendship.
But why, I ask ?

Why does he expect me accept and Validate his very very silly stone age beliefs, but melts down when I counter with facts based on hundreds of years of accumulated scientific knowledge ?
Isn't that proof that religious faith is based on nothing but mere wishful thinking ?
And that religious faith is simply the extreme version of DOUBTS , Doubts camouflaged by Fear ?

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by Blizzy9ja: 6:25am On Aug 28, 2017
They don't fear them, they just think they are pathetic

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by hopefulLandlord: 8:21am On Aug 28, 2017
they do that because you're threatening an illusion

I have a similar thread on that here https://www.nairaland.com/3950514/why-most-theists-more-hostile

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 8:39am On Aug 28, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
they do that because you're threatening an illusion

I have a similar thread on that here https://www.nairaland.com/3950514/why-most-theists-more-hostile


illusion
noun
an instance of a wrong or misinterpreted perception of a sensory experience

CuteMadridista since when did people feel threatened over what you term as illusion. I deliberately offered you the definition. So Christianity is now of the senses? cheesy

Confused much?

By the way I am still waiting for you to say yes or no to my debate challenge.

As an advantage, you are free to pick the topic, create the thread, set the terms of debate and give me a shout.

Want to chicken out?
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by hopefulLandlord: 8:41am On Aug 28, 2017
The obsession is real tongue

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 8:44am On Aug 28, 2017
plaetton:
Because atheism is not a philosophical proposition, I find no need to wear my atheistic worldview as a badge. I tolerate the fact that the far majority of people I come into contact with everyday have one religious belief or another.
But what I cannot ever seem to understand is why Christians, who enjoy and relish advertising and promoting their own God /Jesus worldviews, actually seen to melt down into tantrums and convulsions whenever they encounter an atheist.

I have experienced this too many times, and have lost potentially good friendships with people of the Christian faith who are very very eager to preach their silly unsolicited stone age beliefs to me, but seem to go into convulsions when I reveal atheistic worldview to them.

Does it not mean that the entire edifice of faith and beliefs are built upon, based upon , and rely solely upon self- validations ?

Like I asserted in a recent thread, the entire edifice of religious belief and faith , gods and saviours , relies on acceptance , and then shared acceptance of same by others.
God begins to die when people, people like me, begin to reject the notion.

I really want to understand how a Christian mind reacts when they encounter a live atheist. I have seen the same repeating pattern of disappointment, resentment and a complex that follows whenever a Christian forces me to assert my atheistic worldview.

Their reactions and subsequent attitudes towards me is proof that religious belief is like a psychological Ponzi scheme, whereby everyone feels or receives Validation when the person above or below you reasserts or revalidates the same nonsense that you believe as your primary worldview.
When someone, an atheist like me, Threatens to invalidate that worldview, then the entire psychological Ponzi scheme becomes at risk, vulnerable to dismantling.

I had an encounter with a friend yesterday, a religious nut, who had no idea that I was an atheist.
In typical fashion, he provoked an argument on religion, when I countered with facts, I could immediately see the melt down on his countenance. He couldn't stand the argument, because he had no facts, so he quickly disappeared. I know that that is probably the end of budding friendship.
But why, I ask ?

Why does he expect me accept and Validate his very very silly stone age beliefs, but melts down when I counter with facts based on hundreds of years of accumulated scientific knowledge ?
Isn't that proof that religious faith is based on nothing but mere wishful thinking ?
And that religious faith is simply the extreme version of DOUBTS , Doubts camouflaged by Fear ?

Christians do not and I repeat do not harbour fear OF atheists. We fear FOR you.

This FEAR is more of pity, concern, worry and a desire for something better for you.

Atheism and Christianity are on opposite sides of a great divide.

I may as well ask a similar question by saying WHY DO ATHEISTS ALWAYS FEEL THE NEED TO JUMP ON EVERY CHRISTIAN DISCUSSION? what are they afraid of? Why do they have this senseless urge even after convincing themselves that the issue of discussion by Christians DOES NOT EXIST?

You see a mirror always reflects whatever you place in front of it. I just placed atheism in front of a mirror and you have more questions to answer for yourself to yourself and for the sake of other atheists like you.

Ire o!

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 8:46am On Aug 28, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
The obsession is real tongue

A simple yes or no serves better than a 4 word sentence.

Obsessed over you is a gross injustice to expressions. More like challenging you to self awareness.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by An2elect2: 9:29am On Aug 28, 2017
I'm a Christian and I don't fear atheists/atheism. And I know many Christians who don't give a fvck for something that is no threat at all. We are more concerned about false gospels and ministers. Only on NL that I see people giving atheists all their time.
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by Ranchhoddas(m): 9:39am On Aug 28, 2017
I guess it's just natural to be afraid of someone who challenges everything you hold sacred.
When I was still very religious though, what I felt when I came across atheists was awe rather than fear.
I was in awe of what I believed was their bravery.
I was too worried about getting on Yahweh's bad side so I couldn't imagine that there were people in existence who did not give a damn.
Now I know better. It's just common sense really.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by Hier(m): 10:39am On Aug 28, 2017
because of the fear of becoming one
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 11:23am On Aug 28, 2017
Plaetton, please I need to understand your position.

Are you just irreligious, or you do not accept the existence of order in the universe (order presupposes that the universe is guided and under control)?
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 11:27am On Aug 28, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
I guess it's just natural to be afraid of someone who challenges everything you hold sacred.
When I was still very religious though, what I felt when I came across atheists was awe rather than fear.
I was in awe of what I believed was their bravery.
I was too worried about getting on Yahweh's bad side so I couldn't imagine that there were people in existence who did not give a damn.
Now I know better. It's just common sense really.

You people should define your position and stop being ambiguous.

Are you simply irreligious or just Godless?

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 11:29am On Aug 28, 2017
MrPresident1:


You people should define your position and stop being ambiguous.

Are you simply irreligious or just Godless?

They shift to whichever one as the occasion demands just so they can avoid proper scrutiny. cheesy

It's called being confused!

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 11:51am On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:


They shift to whichever one as the occasion demands just so they can avoid proper scrutiny. cheesy

It's called being confused!

It is OK to be irreligious, who religion epp? Religion is a divider, and a creator of chaos.

However, a true African NEVER questions the existence of a Higher Force guiding the paths of men, and the course of the universe.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:01pm On Aug 28, 2017
MrPresident1:


It is OK to be irreligious, who religion epp? Religion is a divider, and a creator of chaos.

However, a true African NEVER questions the existence of a Higher Force guiding the paths of men, and the course of the universe.


These atheists here are not Africans. Even if they were they would deny it because according to them Africans are not scientific and only the whites are and to them the white scientists have all the answers to everything and since they follow science by the whites then they see no reason to believe in any higher force especially when such a force is a diety.

When they make claims such as being irreligious they assume it's meant to hurt those they claim are religious even when those whom they mistakenly assume to be religious are also not religious but PERSONAL adherents to a faith.

It's all about rebellion and a desire to see it as something justifiable.

My own na to dey read your many calculations my boss. cheesy

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by CoolUsername: 12:16pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:



These atheists here are not Africans. Even if they were they would deny it because according to them Africans are not scientific and only the whites are and to them the white scientists have all the answers to everything and since they follow science by the whites then they see no reason to believe in any higher force especially when such a force is a diety.

When they make claims such as being irreligious they assume it's meant to hurt those they claim are religious even when those whom they mistakenly assume to be religious are also not religious but PERSONAL adherents to a faith.

It's all about rebellion and a desire to see it as something justifiable.

My own na to dey read your many calculations my boss. cheesy


Can you show us a thread where there was a general consensus of Nairaland atheists disavowing Africa?

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 12:17pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:



These atheists here are not Africans. Even if they were they would deny it because according to them Africans are not scientific and only the whites are and to them the white scientists have all the answers to everything and since they follow science by the whites then they see no reason to believe in any higher force especially when such a force is a diety.

When they make claims such as being irreligious they assume it's meant to hurt those they claim are religious even when those whom they mistakenly assume to be religious are also not religious but PERSONAL adherents to a faith.

It's all about rebellion and a desire to see it as something justifiable.

My own na to dey read your many calculations my boss. cheesy

At this point in the evolution of knowledge, it is very very very OK to be irreligious, people do a lot of stupid and foolish things in the name of religion, so it is OK to rebel against foolishness. Irreligiosity in order to use ones God given brains is perfectly in order.

The foundation of science, of scientific reasoning and logical deduction was given to the world by BLACK people, BLACK IS THE COLOUR THAT CIVILISED THE WORLD and this is easily verifiable empirical history.

Their confusion arises from their inability to answer the question ''What really happened to us when it is us that gave the world including the white people all the knowledge they have? How did the Rulers become the servants?'' When they can logically answer that question, they will fall in line.

Olodumare is the God of the Yorubas, Chukwu is his name among the Igbos etc., they knew Him and lived in awe of Him.

Let a true African come and tell me that he is Godless (and profane) like Esau.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by vaxx: 12:19pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:



These atheists here are not Africans. Even if they were they would deny it because according to them Africans are not scientific and only the whites are and to them the white scientists have all the answers to everything and since they follow science by the whites then they see no reason to believe in any higher force especially when such a force is a diety.

When they make claims such as being irreligious they assume it's meant to hurt those they claim are religious even when those whom they mistakenly assume to be religious are also not religious but PERSONAL adherents to a faith.

It's all about rebellion and a desire to see it as something justifiable.

My own na to dey read your many calculations my boss. cheesy




you mean African blooded atheist are slave to white scientists or should I say they worship white scientists.


I agree with you a hundred percent.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 12:26pm On Aug 28, 2017
vaxx:
you mean African blooded atheist are slave to white scientists or should I say they worship white scientists.

I agree with you a hundred percent.

They worship white scientists because they do not realise that the white scientists were trained by their black fathers.

There are no African Atheists, only confused, ignorant (historically distorted) irreligious black people

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by plaetton: 12:32pm On Aug 28, 2017
MrPresident1:




However, a true African NEVER questions the existence of a Higher Force guiding the paths of men, and the course of the universe.

Interesting. shocked

" Never Questioning" things, never curious , never challenging the faculties of thought. Isn't that, perhaps the bane of our scientific and technological underdevelopment ?

You seem to have hit nail on the head with that one.

Let me repeat what I quoted so often here on matters of religion and existence.
" It is better to start from DOUBTS , then work your way to arrive at CERTAINTY, than it is to start with CERTAINTY, and then wobble in DOUBTS in the face of new knowledge or facts.

The religious posture seems to be the latter.

You must question everything until you arrive at CERTAINTY.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Aug 28, 2017
Imagine someone coming along to tell you that the man you call daddy is not your biological father...

That's the way Christians/other religious people react when you point out the flaws in their religion. Religion is a set of programs installed right from the moment one is born with tabula rasa brain and as a result, these programs are hard to erase/debug.

Christians don't fear atheists, the code in their brain (Read Only Memory) goes haywire when ever they encounter an atheist.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:36pm On Aug 28, 2017
CoolUsername:


Can you show us a thread where there was a general consensus of Nairaland atheists disavowing Africa?

Can you show me a thread where a general consensus of atheist did not run behind science when trying to rationalise their atheism and debate those they term as religious?

So are you an atheist alone or you are an atheist based on certain " proof" you claim science offered you?

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by CoolUsername: 12:38pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:


Can you show me a thread where a general consensus of atheist did not run behind science when trying to rationalise their atheism and debate those they term as religious?

So are you an atheist alone or you are an atheist based on certain " proof" you claim science offered you?

Don't sidetrack the discussion. You are the one who made the assertion, here. Or did you lie?

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by vaxx: 12:39pm On Aug 28, 2017
MrPresident1:


They worship white scientists because they do not realise that the white scientists were trained by their black fathers.

There are no African Atheists, only confused, ignorant (historically distorted) irreligious black people
in fact you have said it all.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:41pm On Aug 28, 2017
plaetton:


Interesting. shocked

" Never Questioning" things, never curious , never challenging the faculties of thought. Isn't that, perhaps the bane of our scientific and technological underdevelopment ?

You seem to have hit nail on the head with that one.

Let me repeat what I quoted so often here on matters of religion and existence.
" It is better to start from DOUBTS , then work your way to arrive at CERTAINTY, than it is to start with CERTAINTY, and then wobble in DOUBTS in the face of new knowledge or facts.

The religious posture seems to be the latter.

You must question everything until you arrive at CERTAINTY.






Nobody is against questioning anything but that would make you a religious skeptic and not an atheist (absolutely no God position).

Moreso there is no guarantee that questions would make one arrive at a CERTAINTY!

all answers are never sufficient, true, or perfect or satisfactory except one and then who approves of that which is the right answer if not the one asking said question?

There needs to be a balance. Too little questions means ignorance! Too many questions means Madness!

There is only so much our brains can handle as sufficient and satisfactory answers.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:42pm On Aug 28, 2017
onyenze123:
Imagine someone coming along to tell you that the man you call daddy is not your biological father...

That's the way Christians/other religious people react when you point out the flaws in their religion. Religion is a set of programs installed right from the moment one is born with tabula rasa brain and as a result, these programs are hard to erase/debug.

Christians don't fear atheists, the code in their brain (Read Only Memory) goes haywire when ever they encounter an atheist.



What aspect of religion do you despise?

What aspect of atheism do you despise?

I need both answers.
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:45pm On Aug 28, 2017
CoolUsername:


Don't sidetrack the discussion. You are the one who made the assertion, here. Or did you lie?

I am not sidetracking ogbeni. I simply used my question to answer yours. If you can show me a thread where a single atheist did not hide behind science to rationalise their atheism or argue against religion then you have answered your own question.

Just one thread that an atheist here stated their irrefutable case without recourse to science that's all.

You asked for a thread where such a consensus was made without knowing that actions depict consensus which is why I used my question to wake up your mental process. Asking for specific wordings being made is blindness when Actions have spoken much louder than those words.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by MrPresident1: 12:47pm On Aug 28, 2017
plaetton:


Interesting. shocked

" Never Questioning" things, never curious , never challenging the faculties of thought. Isn't that, perhaps the bane of our scientific and technological underdevelopment ?

You seem to have hit nail on the head with that one.

Let me repeat what I quoted so often here on matters of religion and existence.
" It is better to start from DOUBTS , then work your way to arrive at CERTAINTY, than it is to start with CERTAINTY, and then wobble in DOUBTS in the face of new knowledge or facts.

The religious posture seems to be the latter.

You must question everything until you arrive at CERTAINTY.

Maybe I should change my words, what I meant is that a true African, or a true Black person is INHERENTLY WIRED to believe in a Supreme Being, that is the default mindset. This is also passed along from the parent to the offspring.

I agree that we MUST question all things, and many times as a child I pondered on the question WHO CREATED GOD? WHERE DID HE COME FROM? You are right, it is OK to question everything.

Plaetton, do you believe that the BLACK MAN is the one who gave civilisation to the world? If you do, how then did the ruler become the ruled?
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by CoolUsername: 12:54pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:


I am not sidetracking ogbeni. I simply used my question to answer yours. If you can show me a thread where a single atheist did not hide behind science to rationalise their atheism or argue against religion then you have answered your own question.

I did not ask you a question. Rather, I requested evidence for your statement. If you cannot provide evidence for your statement, it would seem like you lied. I want to think that you are better than that.

Your response to this comment should be the evidence I requested. If not, don't waste time replying.
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by vaxx: 12:57pm On Aug 28, 2017
butterflylion:



Nobody is against questioning anything but that would make you a religious skeptic and not an atheist (absolutely no God position).

Moreso there is no guarantee that questions would make one arrive at a CERTAINTY!

all answers are never sufficient, true, or perfect or satisfactory except one and then who approves of that which is the right answer if not the one asking said question?

There needs to be a balance. Too little questions means ignorance! Too many questions means Madness!

There is only so much our brains can handle as sufficient and satisfactory answers.
I like the way you are thinking.
Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by butterflylion: 12:58pm On Aug 28, 2017
CoolUsername:


I did not ask you a question. Rather, I requested evidence for your statement. If you cannot provide evidence for your statement, it would seem like you lied. I want to think that you are better than that.

Your response to this comment should be the evidence I requested. If not, don't waste time replying.


I am not sidetracking ogbeni. I simply used my question to answer yours. If you can show me a thread where a single atheist did not hide behind science to rationalise their atheism or argue against religion then you have answered your own question.

Just one thread that an atheist here stated their irrefutable case without recourse to science that's all.

You asked for a thread where such a consensus was made without knowing that actions depict consensus which is why I used my question to wake up your mental process. Asking for specific wordings being made is blindness when Actions have spoken much louder than those words.

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Re: Why Do Christians Fear Atheists So Much ? by GoodMuyis(m): 1:01pm On Aug 28, 2017
It will be fun if I meat a live atheist. Those who behave somehow are those meeting atheist for the first time, unlike us on Nairaland who are used to hardcore and softcore argument.

Many times I meet atheist on Facebook I trash them like akintom.

I believed if an atheist see live miracle for the first time that will change him forever

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