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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 5:39pm On Sep 30, 2017
Ken4Christ:


Lies from the very pit of hell. If after you believe, you continue to live a life not worthy of your calling, you will land in hell and your punishment will be worse.
Your opinion.... I choose to believe the word of God.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by coconuthead(m): 5:52pm On Sep 30, 2017
GrandFinale2017:
you're a demonic herectic sent from hell to brainwash and deceive many into damnation.
May God's Wrath fall on u unless u repent.
Don't quote me back please cos i won't dignify ur ignorance with a reply

You took the words from my mouth bro. He's a demonic agent trying hard to confuse young Christian and to harden the hearts of backsliders

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by coconuthead(m): 5:58pm On Sep 30, 2017
efficiencie:
Eternal security...once saved always saved, instantaneous salvation stuff...but this doctrine does not explain or agree with the verses: Matthew 25:1-11; Matthew 7: 22-23; I Corinthians 10:12; I Corinthians 9:27; Romans 8:24-25; 2 Timothy 2:10 and the prime of them all, by my opinion though;


Revelations 3:1-5 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
efficiencie:
Eternal security...once saved always saved, instantaneous salvation stuff...but this doctrine does not explain or agree with the verses: Matthew 25:1-11; Matthew 7: 22-23; I Corinthians 10:12; I Corinthians 9:27; Romans 8:24-25; 2 Timothy 2:10 and the prime of them all, by my opinion though;


Revelations 3:1-5 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Excellent. He's teaching errors from hell.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:41am On Oct 01, 2017
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:42am On Oct 01, 2017
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:14am On Oct 08, 2017
Really??
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by purem(m): 7:38am On Oct 08, 2017
Emmanystone:


Bro Jiggaz, do you believe that once you believe in Christ and your sins gets wiped off, any other sin you commit afterwords no longer count or won't be counted against you?




Even if you are a killer?
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:34am On Oct 08, 2017
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:44pm On Nov 12, 2017
Xxxxxx.....
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:11am On Jan 04, 2018
New year
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:24pm On Mar 03, 2018
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:39pm On Mar 03, 2018
jiggaz:
I just checked your profile... You don't worth my time cos you are a nobody. Nairaland kids and insult.... Had it being you said this to my face in real life, na cane go settle your matter... You have been noticed, now run along....

grin[quote author=jiggaz post=60527373]I just checked your profile... You don't worth my time cos you are a nobody. Nairaland kids and insult.... Had it being you said this to my face in real life, na cane go settle your matter... You have been noticed, now run along.... [/quote
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:42pm On Mar 03, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


grin
grin Na so oo my brother...
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:54pm On Mar 03, 2018
jiggaz:
grin Na so oo my brother...

Dont be perturb brother, remember our Big Brother told us that we will face persecution from the world.

Insult is also a form of persecution.

Cheers!
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Gggg102(m): 8:24pm On Mar 03, 2018
jiggaz:
QUESTION
Please can you explain why, according to those who have had visions of Hell and Heaven or near death experience, they saw men and women of GOD in Hell because of one sin or the other. On the other hand, some of them told of people were refused entrance to Heaven because of the sin of unforgiveness not minding the fact that they are believers.



ANSWER
As I’ve said before, people who make these claims are either seriously mistaken or else they are consciously promoting a false doctrine.

The Bible is clear that Jesus died to pay for our sins so we can have eternal life with him (John 3:16). All who believe in Him are forgiven for all the sins of their life (Colossians 2:13-15) and cannot be sent to Hell for any reason. Our inheritance was made certain when we believed the gospel of our salvation and the Holy Spirit was sealed within us as a deposit guaranteeing it (Ephes. 1:13-14). Nothing can change that. Jesus said that no one can take us out of his or His Father’s hands (John 10:27-30). And 2 Cor. 1:21 tells us it is God Himself who makes us stand firm in Christ.

For someone to promote the idea that some believers will go to hell means they are asking us to believe these promises are not true, that Jesus did not die for all our sins, that our inheritance is not guaranteed, that someone can take us out of the Lord’s hands, and God cannot make us stand firm in Christ. That means no one can ever be sure of his or her eternal destiny regardless of what the Bible has promised us.

I’ve read some of the books people who make these claims have written, but I have also read the Bible. I choose to believe the Bible. After all these books are the words of fallible man, but the Bible is the Word of an infallible God.


https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/more-on-believers-in-hell/


so you mean satanists will also go to heaven.

they believe in Jesus, they only choose to serve Satan.


sonoflucifer you are going to heaven!!!

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:39pm On Mar 03, 2018
bloodofthelamb:


Dont be perturb brother, remember our Big Brother told us that we will face persecution from the world.

Insult is also a form of persecution.

Cheers!
Thanks bro you are correct... Am not perturbed...
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:21am On Mar 04, 2018
Naaaaa
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by nairalanduseles: 9:11am On Mar 04, 2018
hell is when u are poor
heaven is when u re rich
death is constant
after we die no one knows ........
so bottom line don't let anyone decieve u......we all got no clue
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by nosagold(m): 9:13am On Mar 04, 2018
Don't deceive yourself and lead people astray. The Bible says "if we deliberately continue sinning after we have known the way of truth, and the end thereof is worse than the beginning, there is no more repentance because we trod under foot the blood of the only begotten Son of God, and insult the Spiritof Grace which He has given us."

It also says "Can we continue to live in sin and expect grace to abound? God forbid!!!".

The Bible later says "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling".
We have to co-operate with the Holy Spirit through whom we are sanctified in Christ Jesus to reach Heaven.

Instant salvation happens the minute you believe in Jesus Christ and then we also have to obey the commandments to make Heaven. Simple as that really.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Doerstech(m): 9:14am On Mar 04, 2018
False doctrine from the pit of hell..,.

if after putting on the white germent of righteousness washed with the Blood of the lamp and then go back to stain your clothes with lies, fornication and the rest, then Heaven can't be for you....
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by LordIsaac(m): 9:24am On Mar 04, 2018
His words negates the following:
1. "No one lays his hands on the plough and looks back is fit for the Kingdom of God..."
2. "For Demas has forsaken me, having loved this world has departed...."
3. "The son of man will be betrayed and crucified. But woe to that man...."
4. "But the fearful, and unbelieving, AND the abominable, and murderers,.....shall have their part in the lake which burneth...." Rev 21:8.
5. Finally, there is, "lest him that thinketh he standeth take heed, lest he fall..."
God have mercy on us...it is wicked to teach anyone to wallow in the doctrine of eternal security!

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by ddefoe: 9:27am On Mar 04, 2018
nosagold:
Don't deceive yourself and lead people astray. The Bible says "if we deliberately continue sinning after we have known the way of truth, and the end thereof is worse than the beginning, there is no more repentance because we trod under foot the blood of the only begotten Son of God, and insult the Spiritof Grace which He has given us."

It also says "Can we continue to live in sin expect grace to abound? God forbid!!!".

Thank you my brother! May God bless! End of discussion becos there is no more salvation to the one who went on sinning wilfully after salvation.the problem with the eternal salvtion doctrine is that they tend to lift just a particular verse in the bible without balancing the whole.But we know that he who is of God sinneth not.once again, God bless u for this exposition.let him who have ears hear what the spirit is saying

The Bible later says "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling".
We have to co-operate with the Holy Spirit through whom we are sanctified in Christ Jesus to reach Heaven.

Instant salvation happens the minute you believe in Jesus Christ and then we also have to obey the commandments to make Heaven. Simple as that really.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by frosbel2(m): 9:28am On Mar 04, 2018
More confusion from this fake religion.

There is no hell, GET OVER IT.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by victorazy(m): 9:33am On Mar 04, 2018
jiggaz:
QUESTION
Please can you explain why, according to those who have had visions of Hell and Heaven or near death experience, they saw men and women of GOD in Hell because of one sin or the other. On the other hand, some of them told of people were refused entrance to Heaven because of the sin of unforgiveness not minding the fact that they are believers.



ANSWER
As I’ve said before, people who make these claims are either seriously mistaken or else they are consciously promoting a false doctrine.

The Bible is clear that Jesus died to pay for our sins so we can have eternal life with him (John 3:16). All who believe in Him are forgiven for all the sins of their life (Colossians 2:13-15) and cannot be sent to Hell for any reason. Our inheritance was made certain when we believed the gospel of our salvation and the Holy Spirit was sealed within us as a deposit guaranteeing it (Ephes. 1:13-14). Nothing can change that. Jesus said that no one can take us out of his or His Father’s hands (John 10:27-30). And 2 Cor. 1:21 tells us it is God Himself who makes us stand firm in Christ.

For someone to promote the idea that some believers will go to hell means they are asking us to believe these promises are not true, that Jesus did not die for all our sins, that our inheritance is not guaranteed, that someone can take us out of the Lord’s hands, and God cannot make us stand firm in Christ. That means no one can ever be sure of his or her eternal destiny regardless of what the Bible has promised us.

I’ve read some of the books people who make these claims have written, but I have also read the Bible. I choose to believe the Bible. After all these books are the words of fallible man, but the Bible is the Word of an infallible God.


https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/more-on-believers-in-hell/

Stop this nonsense plz....rubbish.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by eagleonearth(m): 9:36am On Mar 04, 2018
When the Master told us to guard our crowns jealously lest someone else takes it, what exactly does he mean? When Paul said we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling, what exactly was he saying? When in 1st corinth 10 we were reminded of our forefathers who though were saved from Egypt drank from the water that came from the Rock, ate the manna, saw many wonders but were still destroyed, what is that place actually referring to? When Jesus reminds you that a branch cut off from a tree will surely wither, what exactly is that telling you? If you have a ticket to fly to Minnesota from Nigeria and when it's time to board, it's discovered you've lost your ticket, you ain't going nowhere dude. Be careful Jigazz.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by MSRA(m): 9:47am On Mar 04, 2018
The doctrine of eternal security is a teaching from the pits of hell designed to lull men into complacency and give them a feeling of security while in actual fact they are rushing headlong to eternal damnation; it is the ULTIMATE DECEPTION. This is what God says about it in Ezekiel 3:20: "And if the righteous turn back from living righteously and take up with evil when I step in and put them in a hard place, they'll die. If you haven't warned them, they'll die because of their sins, and none of the right things they've done will count for anything - and I'll hold you responsible".
Countless examples exist in scripture
1) Judas Iscariot (one of the 1st ever believers in Christ in history; Jesus said there will be no room for forgiveness for him)
2) The 5 foolish virgins (I don't know you the Master told them)
3) Demas (who esteemed the love of this world greater than the love of God)
4) The Ephesian Church ( Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Revelation 2:5)
5) The church in Sardis ( Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Revelation 3:3)

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Mandrake007(m): 9:49am On Mar 04, 2018
fact is on the basis of sin everyone is going to hell,the world is ruled by the devil and we're sinful creatures we sin everyday it's our nature we can't stop,holiness is perfection which is unattainable as long as you live on earth,btw nobody iss going to heaven tho we'll all die and rot away,forgotten by our loved ones and wiped away from history cheesy
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by abassmayowa24(m): 9:52am On Mar 04, 2018
This topic had always been a point of controversy in Christanity..you just reminded me of Prince Joseph: Born to reign.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by OriginalCEO: 9:56am On Mar 04, 2018
Op kip ur doctrine to urself n stop misguiding other weak christians...
and to you xtians being persuaded, dis is wat hapens wen u r nt rooted enuf in d WORD...
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by andyanders: 9:57am On Mar 04, 2018
Op, you are damn wrong and your preaching could push people to hell to perish. Sin is sin. You cannot continue in sin and be using the part of the scripture that states that your sins has been forgiven by the death of Christ to decieve yourself. Jesus is sin free and those that want to be of Him must be sin free. Once you forsake your sins, you don't go back to them. Op, are you now saying that when one kills today and maybe ask for forgiveness for his actions and he is been forgiven and by tomorrow, he goes ahead to commit same sin again believing that the previous forgiveness still see him as a rightous person? Wrong. Sin is sin.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by andyanders: 10:07am On Mar 04, 2018
jiggaz:
I just checked your profile... You don't worth my time cos you are a nobody. Nairaland kids and insult.... Had it being you said this to my face in real life, na cane go settle your matter... You have been noticed, now run along....
Op,you call yourself a man of God and this is a response to your fellow human. I pity your ignorance of the scripture.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by chybosaint(m): 10:07am On Mar 04, 2018
jiggaz:
Yes i believe in once saved always saved. But any believer that continue with a sinful lifestyle doesn't know his true identity and that is a stup.id choice to make. He will suffer the consequences of his sins here on earth cos sin destroys the body and makes our life a living hell. His spirit is saved so far he is a true believer. By true believer, i mean one that trusts in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus for his salvation. Any believer in Christ is saved forever regardless of what religious people might have told you before.

People do not go to hell because they commit so and so sins.. No!! People go to hell because of one sin and that is unbelief in the finished work of Christ.

Sin is a nature not necessarily the action. Every man has that sin nature which we inherited from Adam. And that nature was what Christ defeated on the cross of Calvary and He now offers us His own nature ( THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD) as a gift. If you reject it, you will die in your sin nature which leads to Hell but if you accept His free gift of Salvation, He will cloth you with His own righteousness that qualifies you for eternal life in heaven.

John 3:16 is the Gospel "For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten son. That whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have Eternal Life".

That is the Gospel.. The good news we are asked to preach to a fallen world. Its all about Christ Jesus.

I think you are wrong. You remember where the Bible not all that call me Lord will enter the kingdom of God, for some will come and say we healed in your name, and He will get out of my face you workers of iniquity. (paraphrased). Think on these words with the light of what you said

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