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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:52pm On Mar 04, 2018
sujexy:
Thanks much sir! do not be demoralized by the comments u HV seen here...like what someone above quoted earlier, they are just sincerely wrong....MORE GRACE TO U SIR!!
Thanx alot dear... No am not demoralized.. Am just amazed they couldn't see the truth... The Gospel is all about Christ and His finished work at the cross.. Thank u once again...

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:14am On Mar 05, 2018
Believe this heresy at your own eternal peril


It is written:
Let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he falls.
(Meaning it's possible to fall)

It is written:
All liars shall go to hell
(He didn't say whether you're a born again or not)

It is written:
Follow peace with all men and HOLINESS with which no man shall see God.

It is written:
Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

It is written:
Every fruit that does not bear fruit will I cut down.

It is written:
You are neither hot, nor cold. I WILL SPIT THER OUT OF MY MOUTH

Remember This:
The master casted the unprofitable servant who buried the 1 talent he was given into the cell where there was weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Remember This:
On the judgement day, Jesus said many people will come to him and say we served you, we even healed and performed miracles in your name, and he said to them:
"DEPART FROM ME, YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY, I KNOW THEE NOT"



jiggaz:
QUESTION
Please can you explain why, according to those who have had visions of Hell and Heaven or near death experience, they saw men and women of GOD in Hell because of one sin or the other. On the other hand, some of them told of people were refused entrance to Heaven because of the sin of unforgiveness not minding the fact that they are believers.



ANSWER
As I’ve said before, people who make these claims are either seriously mistaken or else they are consciously promoting a false doctrine.

The Bible is clear that Jesus died to pay for our sins so we can have eternal life with him (John 3:16). All who believe in Him are forgiven for all the sins of their life (Colossians 2:13-15) and cannot be sent to Hell for any reason. Our inheritance was made certain when we believed the gospel of our salvation and the Holy Spirit was sealed within us as a deposit guaranteeing it (Ephes. 1:13-14). Nothing can change that. Jesus said that no one can take us out of his or His Father’s hands (John 10:27-30). And 2 Cor. 1:21 tells us it is God Himself who makes us stand firm in Christ.

For someone to promote the idea that some believers will go to hell means they are asking us to believe these promises are not true, that Jesus did not die for all our sins, that our inheritance is not guaranteed, that someone can take us out of the Lord’s hands, and God cannot make us stand firm in Christ. That means no one can ever be sure of his or her eternal destiny regardless of what the Bible has promised us.

I’ve read some of the books people who make these claims have written, but I have also read the Bible. I choose to believe the Bible. After all these books are the words of fallible man, but the Bible is the Word of an infallible God.


https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/more-on-believers-in-hell/
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:17am On Mar 05, 2018
sujexy:
if we can get to understand what sin is really, then we wouldn't be fighting with op...
our reactions are logical based on what we have always heard and believed!
Open your mind to the truth of the scripture and dig out the unadulterated message d bible z passing to us...
remember, Paul was antagonised when he preached d same...
According to the scripture "believing the lord and acknowledging Jesus as your lord" is the only criteria for partaking in Gods divine nature.. Sentiments cannot change that!!
Your human struggles will never make u a better person, rather ur total believe in the work of Christ and his ability to change ur spirit man which subsequently changes your physical self
shalom!!!

What is the crown of glory and who gets it, for what reason ?
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:21am On Mar 05, 2018
May God Bless You

MistadeRegal:


But have you not read the Bible where John said JESUS CHRIST spoke to him thus: And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation:21:6-8

Do you think all those who call themselves Men Of GOD are all for real men of GOD?
JESUS CHRIST also spoke: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew:7:19-23

What do you have to answer to these?

Ok.

Also: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans:6:1-4

What you have to do is make people know that once in CHRIST JESUS, they must live a holy life.
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:23am On Mar 05, 2018
You're blessed

linearity:


Heb 10:26-29.....

“26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?”

....enuff said!
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:26am On Mar 05, 2018
Which Apostle Paul?

Same Apostle Paul who warned the 7 Churches about some if these things?

jiggaz:
Wow!! I just read all the comments!! grin grin The Nigerian Pharisees are all raining on my thread....

This is the same message that Apostle Paul preached during his days and they wanted to stone him!! cheesy

I am not discouraged.... The Gospel must be preached in its purest form... Nigerian Christians sha... Soo ignorant of the Scripture.. Always depending on what their Pastor tells them... It's a pity though.....

I thank the mod of this section for moving this post to the front page... And am glad that most people that read it were liberated ( so many views).... All glory to my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ!!
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by mangood74: 8:30am On Mar 05, 2018
please brethren ignore this man teachings as we can see he is a confusionist he is not rightly dividing the word of TRUTH

ye brood of vipers who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:31am On Mar 05, 2018
If all you could quote is John 3:16
(Out of context)
Then it shows two things:

A. You either don't know the Bible or
B. You are part of those who deliberately hide the truth for the sake of deception

oddysey:
If you have been travelling on a road for 50 years and you found out that you may not have been travelling on the right road, the correct thing to do would be to turn and start on the right road. It doesn't matter how far you have travelled. You will NEVER get to your destination!

I appreciate the opposition to the message of the eternal security of the believer. It's what we have been taught all our lives and we sincerely believe it. But then, we can be sincerely wrong! It's not about sincerity. Question is, does the Bible teach it?

I would implore us to just open our hearts, discard all our pre-suppositions and study the Bible on this subject.

In closing, even the most popular verse in the Bible talks about eternal security........"that whosoever BELIEVES on Him should NOT PERISH but have ETERNAL LIFE......NOT PERISH...NOT PERISH....NOT PERISH....NOT PERISH...NOT PERISH...NOT PERISH...

Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by DadaStephen1(m): 8:33am On Mar 05, 2018
Oga
Is this what the Bible says?
bloodofthelamb:


For a believer to loose his salvation and righteousness, Christ Jesus his Head and Vine has to loose His first.

Tell me can Jesus loose His righteousness?
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by sujexy(m): 8:59am On Mar 05, 2018
DadaStephen1:


What is the crown of glory and who gets it, for what reason ?
If strict adherence to the law was helpful, Jesus wouldn't have come to bring grace....

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:52am On Mar 05, 2018
DadaStephen1:
Oga
Is this what the Bible says?

Yes sir,

For me to loose my righteousness, Christ Jesus whom God made my righteous according to the scripture ( 1 Cor 1:30 ) has to loose His first.

That is the only way I or anyone who put their trust in the Son of God can perish.

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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by hadow(m): 2:51pm On Mar 05, 2018
, I feel sad reading this, do people still think like this, well jiggaz and bloodofthelamb, can u explain what exodus 32:33 says, please do explain to me how your name can be blotted out of the book of life according to this strange gospel of yours, and whilst at it explain 1 Corinthians 9:27, where Paul doesn't want to be disqualified/castaway
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:12am On Jun 07, 2018
Hi
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by madegreatbygrace(m): 3:42pm On Jun 07, 2018
I don't understand why the op is getting so much sticks. The man is not encouraging sins, neither is he taking grace for granted. In his post, he even says it's only a stupid person that'll go on sinning after they have received the knowledge of the truth.

There are many scriptures that support eternal security. If you've not seen them, it is because your mind has been conditioned to believe performance based doctrine. I was once walking that lane, and so I can relate, until I encountered the perfect law of liberty which sets one free.

Minds must be renewed, and we must constantly pray for wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of truth, so that the body of Christ may come to the unity of faith.

Bravo to all you guys that understand the true gospel- Jiggazz,sujexy,blood of the lamb. May Christ continue to be revealed through you.

PS :.Stop the name calling
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by sujexy(m): 6:34pm On Jun 07, 2018
madegreatbygrace:
I don't understand why the op is getting so much sticks. The man is not encouraging sins, neither is he taking grace for granted. In his post, he even says it's only a stupid person that'll go on sinning after they have received the knowledge of the truth.

There are many scriptures that support eternal security. If you've not seen them, it is because your mind has been conditioned to believe performance based doctrine. I was once walking that lane, and so I can relate, until I encountered the perfect law of liberty which sets one free.

Minds must be renewed, and we must constantly pray for wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of truth, so that the body of Christ may come to the unity of faith.

Bravo to all you guys that understand the true gospel- Jiggazz,sujexy,blood of the lamb. May Christ continue to be revealed through you.

PS :.Stop the name calling

Amen Sir
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:55pm On Jun 07, 2018
madegreatbygrace:
I don't understand why the op is getting so much sticks. The man is not encouraging sins, neither is he taking grace for granted. In his post, he even says it's only a stupid person that'll go on sinning after they have received the knowledge of the truth.

There are many scriptures that support eternal security. If you've not seen them, it is because your mind has been conditioned to believe performance based doctrine. I was once walking that lane, and so I can relate, until I encountered the perfect law of liberty which sets one free.

Minds must be renewed, and we must constantly pray for wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of truth, so that the body of Christ may come to the unity of faith.

Bravo to all you guys that understand the true gospel- Jiggazz,sujexy,blood of the lamb. May Christ continue to be revealed through you.

PS :.Stop the name calling

Amen my brother... Thank you...
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:57pm On Jan 11
Lord Jesus... The altogether lovely One...
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:47am On Jan 12
Morning
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 10:23pm On Jan 12
Oh
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:53am On Jan 15
Yes Lord
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:49am On Jan 16
Thank you Lord Jesus

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