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Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:58pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
A Question And Answer Section With Jack Kelley Question You are an amazing man of God and I appreciate what Christ is doing through you and your ministry. My question or comment is on eternal security, also called once saved, always saved: OSAS. Let me first state that I fundamentally believe that we are saved by what we believe and not how we behave. I think that scripture makes that pretty clear. But I believe we have to be careful how we disseminate that truth to others, and I think that is what has been the BIG problem in the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine. People have put it out there like, “Hey, say a prayer, you’re saved, and live the way you want. Don’t worry, God has forgiven you.” We have to make sure that people understand that God paid a price to make a change in us “a new creation” and that is something special and beautiful. Does the change take some time and work? Yes, but that is where the Holy Spirit comes in to help us – to convict us! If the person is not feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit, then all they did is rattle off a prayer and there was no change. Once Saved Always Saved should not be used as a scapegoat for their behavior. That is making a mockery of our Lords gift. Yes, I believe Once Saved Always Saved if there is a true confession and conversion! Do you believe that the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine has been misunderstood, and if so what can we do as literal bible believing followers of Christ to change that misunderstanding? Answer Look at what you’re saying. “I believe Once Saved Always Saved if there is a true confession and conversion!” Under what other circumstances could Once Saved Always Saved possibly apply? And God did not pay a price to make a change in us through time and work and the Holy Spirit’s conviction. Because He paid a price a change has been made in us that allows God to view us as if we had never sinned. The old is gone, the new has come! (2 Cor. 5:17) The truth be told, we do have the right to say a prayer and then live the way we want, because it’s the sincere prayer that saves us not our attempts to be good afterward. Now if we choose to ignore the counsel of the Holy Spirit and live meaningless, fruitless lives, we’ll suffer loss both here and in eternity (1 Cor. 3:15) but we’ll still be saved. I think that the only place where Once Saved Always Saved has been misunderstood is among those who would take away from what the Lord has done by attaching man’s conditions. https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/osas-that-isnt-really-osas/ |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by Kobojunkie: 8:06pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
True confession and conversion? ROFLMAO These so-called men of God are a tool |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:00am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Lord Jesus |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:00pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
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Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by sonmvayina(m): 7:17am On Oct 31, 2020 |
There is No Once Saved Always Saved Eze 18:20 "The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked SHALL BE UPON HIMSELF." Eze 18:21 "And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. Eze 18:22 All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live." Eze 18:23 " Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith Adonoy YHWH: and not that he should repent from his ways, and live?" Eze 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:22am On Oct 31, 2020 |
Thank you Lord Jesus... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:14am On Nov 01, 2020 |
Morning |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 2:02pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:19pm On Nov 01, 2020 |
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Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:17am On Nov 08, 2020 |
Yes Lord |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by tobechi74: 9:35am On Nov 08, 2020 |
Anyone who has never changed his core beliefs or religion is yet to die to his old self. Dying to old self is prerequisite to a new birth. A seed has to be buried to the ground before it can germinate. Many atheist and agnostic are dead to their old self. They are one step ahead than most of us who are yet to question our belief. The second step is observation. Not one created by someone else but one based on his own seeking and experience. A born again person does not take things because it is repeated by many or asserted by majority or written in a holy book. He listens to all side and filters them based on his reason and experience. Born again persons are original in thoughts and deed. He is saperated from the mass . To be born again comes with a price of violating recognises order. This lead to grave consequences including death . 1 Like |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:15pm On Nov 08, 2020 |
jiggaz: |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:18pm On Nov 08, 2020 |
Now.. |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 5:55am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Bump... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:16pm On Nov 11, 2020 |
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Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:59pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Lord Jesus.... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:06pm On Dec 23, 2020 |
Lord Jesus...... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:56pm On Dec 23, 2020 |
Nah |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:13am On Mar 17, 2021 |
Lord Jesus |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:57pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Yeah... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:12am On Mar 18, 2021 |
Nah it's not |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:42pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Now |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:19pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Lord Jesus |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:06am On Mar 21, 2021 |
Lord Jesus.... |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
jiggaz: |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:32am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Right now |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 3:44pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Nope |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 10:05pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Nope. |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:04am On Jul 22, 2021 |
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Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 6:48pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Nah |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 10:35am On Jul 25, 2021 |
Nah.. |
Re: Is Once Saved Always Saved A Fake Gospel? Lets See - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:23am On Aug 08, 2021 |
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