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Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Organs(m): 7:46pm On Nov 15, 2017 |
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Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by shadeyinka(m): 5:36pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
amilak: I hope this is the full truth from you. You said " She was a fervently prayerful young woman, she saw visions, lead crusades and even casted out demons while she was a Christian , her father was a leader of some of the churches at the time. " My questions my sister 1. Does your mum still conduct deliverances? 2. When last did your mum do the quoted above? Thanks |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Maamin(m): 7:02pm On Nov 16, 2017 |
Organs: We have no such phrase as "God the Son" please, but rather Son of God |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Ahasco(m): 12:59am On Nov 17, 2017 |
From fry pan � to fire |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by jookunlaja(m): 11:13am On Nov 18, 2017 |
I talked about my ordeal in the clutch of dream molesters and vandalizers which lasted for years.I indeed became free through diligent search and prayers.Later, I documented my experience which shows others how they too could be delivered totally from dream manipulations and oppression. However, I still experience some unexplainable circumstances beyond human understanding especially in my marital life and finances.My financial journey was indeed from grass to grace and later from prosperity to penury.I became a millionaire in my 30's.Believe me sincerely, the first million is always the hardest because the second and others were far easier.I literally watched my bank balance grew from about N50,000 to 100k,350,500k and later to 900k and I know how I celebrated the first 1m by paying a gratitude offering of tithe to God.I was just too happy that I could become a millionaire from selling just softsell magazine.My wife and I started from hawking the papers with bagco super sacks,we walked the streets of Lagos distributing the monthly papers.However, after the years of saving and saving,I made a business decision with some people that I think was the best but eventually landed me in grave problems. I completely became penniless. The circumstances was that for about four years until just recently that I was also able to dig into what actually went wrong.I discovered that there is something called TOTAL DELIVERANCE OR COMPLETE DELIVERANCE. This realm is a special realm where you are totally free from demons and demonic influences.Total deliverance from demons,powers of the father's house,foundational wickedness,generational curses.Not all people suffer the same fate in this area.Some people may be excempted due to some reasons beyond the scope of this write-up but I have found out that many black people suffer from this.I heard about a research on Diaspora study in UI that discovered that the people of Badagry are still suffering from the conquences of the slave trade era.That ancient city is full of backwardness,underdevelopment,poverty,drunkenness,adultery,youths becoming useless,rejecting education and progress.Though still strategically located but the city is just like a ghost town until recently when some people started undoing what has been done against the city. I intend to document my struggle and experience in this second area and how God gave me total deliverance from household demons or principality. However, I advise you obtain my first book titled 'Dreams and Interpretation:How to do it yourself'. The ebook is now available for sale at just N1000 and the hard copy is just N200 but out of stock.Hence, I appeal to readers who can fund the printing,just about N100k for 1000 copies and it would be sold at either N150 or N200 as the case may be. send your enquiries to 07035697820 or mail me through janeokunlaja@yahoo.com and let's get going. God will surely deliver you too and set you free.Get the secrets of dream deliverance today with prayers points to help you. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by GoodMuyis(m): 9:50pm On Nov 18, 2017 |
HardMirror don come again, chai. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by orisa37: 7:29am On Nov 19, 2017 |
You were never "Born Again", so you were not good Christian.
You were just a Trainee Chrislam!!! 1 Like |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by obua: 6:39am On Jan 27, 2018 |
vannessa7:you just left your faith because of husband |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kolanist(m): 12:41pm On Jan 28, 2018 |
You are a liar and THE GOD of christians is annoyed with u. How dare u say u performed miracles and did the work of an evangelist etc and still convert to islam.u would be struck to correction. The fact is this , it is like it is permited to lie in order to propergate the religion of islam. This person is a liar who has seen the truth and power of true christianity and wants to steal the glory and give it to islam .dont be decieved people 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by 77star: 4:52pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
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Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:00pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Sorry to say ma, you are never a Christian! All these things you mentioned have nothing to do with true Christianity, but you may wish to find out what true Christianity entails i will chat with you and we'll both study God's word together perhaps you were once a Christian let's see things from the viewpoint of the early Christians! vannessa7: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 6:22pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I think I will prefer the debate about if I was a christian or not between you and God, the God that I served then and even now knows if I served him or not 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 6:30pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Kolanist: Funny enough I'm just seeing this now, you only have your christian experience while I have experienced both yet you feel you know better, I leave you to the God you claim you are serving, let Almighty God judge between me and you if there is any lie in this write up, we will all stand before God on the last day and be judge for every word we utter or write for that matter and that includes false accusations. 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
Well many people did greater things in their various religions before they found the truth, they never thought it's God's fault supporting them while practicing false religions. But since you're OK with your new found faith it's alright, i just wanted to prove to you that you were never a Christian! vannessa7: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 7:10pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm very sure I was a far better christian than you are or will ever be whatever your title is. If you experienced half of what I had to experience you would have turned your back on God since, bread and butter christian. You don't believe God is in Islam even though you have not experienced it. I will not engage you in a battle of words because islam doesn't permit it. 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:38pm On Jun 14, 2021 |
This life! Well i was a Muslim before i became one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and please we don't even believe in titles recognized in the world. Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can appreciate my service in the truth. So i'm not interested in trading words i just wish you know the true meaning of the word Christianity not what the world think it is! vannessa7: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 12:26am On Jun 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I laugh in spanish , you are so sure I don't know the meaning of christianity and you do!!, Imagine!, Why don't you help yourself and research on the foundation of that your Jehovah witness. You are not even a christian. Every one has a right and a duty to search for the truth about eternity and prepare for it here because here is the only opportunity we have to do that. Take a break from that your church and personally do a prayer retreat asking God to reveal the truth about Jehovah witness to you. You are the one in need of the help you want to render to me. Imagine?! 3 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04am On Jun 15, 2021 |
So if you believe God will have to REVEAL Himself to people then it means God is the one at fault when people fails to know Him after all it's only to those whom He revealed Himself that will know Him! Well it's OK since you don't believe in sharing what you know for others to gain insight but think God is the one that must do it Himself let's leave it at that. May you have PEACE! vannessa7: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 9:16pm On Jun 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Amen to your prayer Using emotional blackmail instead of asking direct questions will not get you anywhere. I suggested you seek the face of God yourself for two reasons, first we are in a public domain and many of your people who are not ready to hear anything contrary to what they know about your religion will come across this post, secondly, God Himself said we should seek Him and we shall find Him, He will rarely impose revelations on you especially concerning your beliefs and whatever you have already committed to unless you are asking questions either directly or indirectly. Anyway, since this thread is meant to enlighten on Religion experience I will give my verdict on jehovah witness now. While I was still searching for answers and a way out of wilderness, I was inspired that Jehovah witness is another satanic organization because of its foundation which is rooted in satanism, that's why many things in their bible are different from the main stream bible and many of their beliefs. I carried out some online research on it and I found various resources. They are just another organization with many good activities but lacking the presence of God. If you belong to such a place your soul will be corrupted and you will not even be aware, the sabatterian, church of latter day saints (the mormons) belong in that category, they are just glorified cult, the members may not know but that doesn't make them less guilty. I had to do a thorough repentance because I attended a program at that church of latter day saints. I just found the words tumbling out of my mouth and I had to throw away all their papers. The mainstream christianity in itself is okay because it's ordained by God it's just that the covenant of grace meant to allow and tolerate sinners and evil to come to God with the hope of repenting now gives the devil freedom to stay in the life of their victims for much longer whereas islam get rid of evil the same day you start practicing it all things being equal. If you don't have any family evil covenant or you are a white man christianity is ok for you but if you have history of lives being destroyed in your family or you are aware of one idol they worship and you become a christian, they will show you pepper whereas islam will silence them immediately. In christianity you can also be delivered totally if you are able to pass the many test in the wilderness or you become a pastor, someone who ministers to people then God will give you anointing to carry out that work because of the many devil's you will come across so you can do the work of God without being cut down and that will set you free from your own demons. But in Islam all you need is to practice it diligently and no devil will be able to trouble you. 2 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:01am On Jun 16, 2021 |
vannessa7: How have you allowed for this when i tried to approach you with reasoning? not ready to hear anything contrary Did you allow for contrary opinion on what you know presently? I saw your thread and feel like knowing what exactly helped you during your research, i made my stand clear perhaps you will open up so that we can both share from our experience but it's obvious you've sealed your mind. You're only here to throw tantrums on other people's religion without giving room for reasoning. Well if you believe in your so called INSPIRATION i'm glad to tell you that there are hundreds of thousands of testimonies about inspiration in different religions and they are all totally contradicting one another, for instance many have said that they are inspired and they're seeing Muhammad and all past Muslims languishing in HellFire! That's why i always allow for reasoning so that i can gain insight while sharing with others. Meanwhile out of all those claiming they were inspired one thing is common with them all: They all come with THEORIES about how life began, just few of them do have PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS regarding what their so called inspiration revealed but only one out of them all brings out BENEFITS for adherents of their various THEORIES. So each religion comes up with it's own THEORY few has PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what they want to impress in the minds of their listeners but only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization has brought real BENEFITS both to adherents and neighbours. What do i mean? Among all descendants of Adam none has seen God nor able to reveal Him in the perfect sense so it's all stories, sacred services and shows of different logics yet we all know that any true organization belonging to God must possess these qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23 Of all the religions i have come across in my life only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization have PERFECTLY exhibited all these qualities without leaving one behind. So you need to check the spirit that's revealing what you said about them again because we all know that Satan is also out there and he is inspiring people too! May you have PEACE! |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by vannessa7(f): 5:51pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Anytime I write anything on the internet I'm always conscious of the fact that I'm putting out information into the webspace that millions of people might access over a very long period of time. I don't write solely to address a particular person but the entire world because I know God through His spirit lead people to information either in the form of books or audio or soft copy like this. My point: I am not necessarily answering you especially if my information does not apply to you now, but I know every information I give might be used by the Holy spirit to save someone or lead someone to the right path one day. You said you wanted to know about my experience and viewpoint which I have given but you got angry as if my view point and experience must match your own which means like I said you are not ready to ear anything different from what you know Secondly you talk about practical experience, which to my understanding what you have practiced and see result and learn from it. You listed the fruits of the spirit as practical experience in Jehovah Witness. But do you know there is something called the principle of God and also the person of God. Anyone can practice the principle of God without having the person of God and they will reap the benefits of it in their lives. Some people are even born with inherent good traits, but if you don't have the person of God it's just like building a house on the sand, it will be washed away when the storm comes. That is why most developed nation are getting ahead because they practice most of this principle and they are seeing the results but when the pandemic came, they were thoroughly affected because they lack the person of God which brings the power of God to help in such situation. Their foundation is on the sand whereas Nigeria with our inability to handle such situation we are nearly free from it because we have prayers. The reason why those good qualities are called fruit of the spirit is that there should be a tree bearing the fruits. God is the tree. But like you can buy orange in the market you can also possess these fruits without having the tree but when there is scarcity, the one with the tree will fare better. My point doing good deeds is good and should be accompanied by having a relationship with God. Having a covenant with the devil while doing good is like wrapping a can of worms in beautiful wrapping paper, it's still full of worms. About the revelations, I trust my revelations because I have had years of practice and confirm with several experience how God speaks to me. I am naturally gifted in that area and many progress I had has been due to obeying revelations I had. Thanks 3 Likes |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
You're welcome! I'm never angry at anyone on talks having to do with faith after all you're just saying what you feel about my beliefs while i also does the same. By the end of the day each person will hold onto whatever you're able to grasp fully. One thing is certain: there are revelations out there and it's all contradictory so i discuss with people one on one to list the fruit derived after the so called REVELATIONS. Just few weeks ago a popular religious leader died some claimed they saw him in HellFire while others claimed they saw angels lifting his body to God's throne! Whichever way it's nice chatting with you i will hold unto the THEORY that i can present it's PRACTICAL APPLICATION and how it's of great BENEFITS anyday anytime. May you have PEACE! vannessa7: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 10:21pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
vannessa7:If you had paid close attention to that which is even made clear in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, information repeated across the four books of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, you would have learnt that the promises given by God there in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, belonged only to those who are descended of the blood of Jacob - God intentionally excluded those of the gentile nations from that Covenant. And God is a faithful God. He will never take that which belongs only to His people, Israel, to give to those who are not. What you call Christianity is instead a completely different and separate Covenant from the Old Covenant Law of Moses, and is instead defined in the 4 Gospels. The New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, comes complete with it's own set of promises, blesses, curses, commandments, rituals and so on. and is binding to people of all nations- an individual agreement between God Him and each man who chooses to believe in Jesus Christ, the Law Himself. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 10:34pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
terrezo2002:1. I beg to differ with your interpretation of Romans 8 vs 35 - 39 there. Jesus Christ said in John 6 vs 43-45 that only those who are taught by His Father belong to Him and those who His Father brings to Him, He will in no wise cast out. Those who this apply are not those who are simply saved by the doctrines and traditions of men, but instead who are taught only by God Himself. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 10:55pm On Jun 16, 2021 |
adepeter2027:Technically, you are right but there are those who belong to God - John 6 vs 43 - 45 - , those who can never be lost from Him since He installs His own Spirit inside of them to cause them to carefully obey His commandments- Ezekiel 36 vs 27. And then there those who believe who don't necessarily, particularly those who are deceived by the many doctrines and traditions of men, that which Jesus Christ said were lies that deceive away from God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14. In the parable of wheat and weed - Matthew 13 vs 24- 30 - Jesus Christ tells of two groups in the Kingdom of God - the wheat from the good(Truth) seeds and the weeds from evil(Lies) seeds. Those who grow from good(Truth) seeds will remain good(Truth) seeds until the harvest whereas those who are grown from bad(Lies) seeds will remain bad(Lies) until the harvest. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by oaroloye(m): 12:32am On Jun 17, 2021 |
MISHIGAS! vannessa7: I SEE NO REASON TO BELIEVE ANY PART OF THIS STORY, BECAUSE IT GOES QUITE AGAINST WHAT I KNOW OF CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, AND SPIRITUALITY. . DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5. 32. What thing soever I Command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. IF there arise among you a Prophet, or a Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder, 2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, "LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS, WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM;" 3. Thou shalt not hearken unto The Words of that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams: for The LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love The LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4. Ye shall walk after The LORD your God, and fear Him, and keep His Commandments, and obey His Voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him. 5. And that prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the Land of Egypt, and Redeemed you out of the House of Bondage, to thrust thee out of The Way which The LORD thy God Commanded thee to walk in. vannessa7: WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE BORN AGAIN? WHAT THE OYINBOS TELL US IS "BORN AGAIN" IS NOT THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE LORD YESHUA OFFERS. . JOHN 3:1-21. THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a Ruler of the Jews: 2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, "Rabbi, we know that thou art a Teacher come from God: for no man can do these Miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." 3. Jesus Answered and Said unto him, "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 4. Nicodemus saith unto him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" 5. Jesus Answered, "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 6. "That which is Born of the Flesh is flesh; and that which is Born of The Spirit is spirit. 7. "Marvel not that I Said unto thee, 'YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.' 8. "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is Born of The Spirit." 9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, "How can these things be?" 10. Jesus Answered and Said unto him, "Art thou a Master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11. "Verily, verily, I Say unto thee, 'WE SPEAK THAT WE DO KNOW, AND TESTIFY THAT WE HAVE SEEN; AND YE RECEIVE NOT OUR WITNESS.' 12. "If I have told you Earthly Things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of Heavenly Things? 13. "And no man hath ascended up to Heaven, but he that came down from Heaven, even The Son of Man which is in Heaven. 14. "And as Moses lifted up the Serpent in the Wilderness, even so must The Son of Man be lifted up: 15. "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have Eternal Life. 16. "For God so loved the World, that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not Perish, but have Everlasting Life. 17. "For God sent not His Son into the World to Condemn the World; but that the World through him might be Saved. 18. "He that believeth in him is not Condemned: but he that believeth not is Condemned Already, because he hath not believed in The Name of The Only Begotten Son of God. 19. "And this is The Condemnation, 'THAT LIGHT IS COME INTO THE WORLD, AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT, BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS WERE EVIL.' 20. "For every one that doeth Evil hateth The Light, neither cometh to The Light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light, that his deeds may be manifest, that they are wrought in God." "BORN AGAIN" IN NORTHERN ARAMAIC MEANS: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS." NICODEMUS SPOKE SOUTHERN ARAMAIC, AND HENCE DID NOT UNDERSTAND JESUS. [Footnote to JOHN 3:3,5 in the Lamsa Peshitta Bible.] IF YOUR THOUGHTS AND HABITS WERE NOT CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD- THEN YOU WERE NOT BORN OF GOD. For instance- if you believe Lord Yeshua is The Christ, because somebody told you, then you are not Born of God. vannessa7: IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A "HOME FELLOWSHIP LEADER," "PRAYER WARRIOR," "EVANGELIST," OR A "FOLLOW-UP COUNSELLOR," AND HAVE "NOTHING GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE." Even a " SANCTUARY CLEANER" has room to learn important things. In Oriental Martial Arts Schools, when you barge in begging for tutelage, according to legend, they make you their cleaner. If you complain that you are not learning what you came for, they prove to you that you have made more progress than you thought. You don't know what any of those terms mean, because you only know their dictionary definitions, at best- you haven't lived them. How can you have a "job," and say that "nothing was going on in your life?" What a foolish lie! Your story is a fabrication. . MATTHEW 7:12-29. 12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is The Law and The Prophets. 13. "Enter ye in at The Strait Gate: for wide is the Gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to Destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. "Because strait is the Gate, and narrow is The Way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it. 15. "Beware of False Prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17. "Even so every Good Tree bringeth forth Good Fruit; but a Corrupt Tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit. 18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit, neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit. 19. "Every tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit is hewn down, and cast into the Fire. 20 Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them. 21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven; but He that doeth The Will of my Father Which is in Heaven. 22 Many will say to me in That Day, 'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?' 23. "And then will I profess unto them, 'I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.' 24. "Therefore whosoever heareth These Sayings of mine, and doeth Them, I will liken him unto a Wise Man, which built his house upon a rock: 25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 . "And every one that heareth These Sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a Foolish Man, which built his house upon the sand: 27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it." 28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these Sayings, the people were astonished at his Doctrine: 29. For He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes. CHURCH ACTIVITIES- EVEN THE WORKING OF MIRACLES- ARE MEANINGLESS, IF ONE DOES NOT KEEP LORD YESHUA'S COMMANDMENTS. vannessa7: THIS IS GIBBERISH- MERE STRINGING TOGETHER TECHNICAL TERMS YOU JUST HEARD OTHER PEOPLE USE! What is a "WITCHCRAFT ATTACK?" What is a "FAMILIAR SPIRIT?" What is an "ANCESTRAL CURSE?" How can a Christian have "FAMILY IDOL?" You must be an idiot to claim all these, and then say, NOTHING WAS HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE! . MATTHEW 12:22-45. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the Blind and Dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "IS NOT THIS THE SON OF DAVID?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out Devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by The Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a Word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the Abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good Man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36.But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' 37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned." 38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a Sign from thee." 39. But he Answered and Said unto them, "An Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a Sign; and there shall no Sign be given to it, but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas: 40. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, 'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;' and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." vannessa7: YOU CLAIM TO HAVE GRADUATED IN SOMETHING, AND BEEN MARRIED FOR FOUR YEARS- WHILE "NOTHING WAS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE!" . JOHN 8:28-36. 28. Then Said Jesus unto them, "When ye have lifted up The Son of Man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath Taught me, I Speak these things. 29. "And He that sent me is with me: The Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him." 30. As he Spake these Words, many believed on him. 31. Then Said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, "If ye continue in my Word, then are ye my Disciples indeed; 32. "And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you Free." 33. They answered him, "We be Abraham's Seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, 'YE SHALL BE MADE FREE?' " 34. Jesus Answered them, "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN IS THE SERVANT OF SIN. 35. 'AND THE SERVANT ABIDETH NOT IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER: BUT THE SON ABIDETH EVER.' 36. "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." A CHRISTIAN WHO DOES LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS ACHIEVES THE TRUTH, AND BECOMES FREE. vannessa7: THE PRIORITY OF A CHRISTIAN IS TO PRAY TO KNOW LORD YESHUA- NOT A HUSBAND. You are telling us to believe, that you went to Christian Programmes and Churches, with thousands of members, and couldn't find a Husband? vannessa7: I USED TO FALL ILL TO MALARIA EVERY THREE MONTHS- FOR FIVE YEARS, I HEALED MYSELF THROUGH PRAYER. Then I found the Minister who taught T.L. OSBORN- FRANKLIN HALL- whom my Church didn't want us to know about. THREE DAYS OF FASTING immunizes against MALARIA for 30 days- in my personal experience. I have never had Typhoid. Why did you keep drinking Dirty Water, and/or eating Dirty Food? HOW THE HELL CAN YOU JOIN RCCG- WHEN YOU HAVE NEVER MISSED A HOLY GHOST SERVICE IN FOUR YEARS? Where was your Church- in THE TWILIGHT ZONE? vannessa7: HOW DOES A WOMAN EVANGELIST NOTICE THE HOLY GHOST IN THE TEMPLE OF THE FALSE RELIGION, ISLAM?? Are we talking about the same "ISLAM" here? The one that denies that Lord Yeshua was crucified, or resurrected from the dead? The Religion that authorizes a man to Bleep his wife after she has died. The Religion that authorizes the fucking of cattle- even after they have died? The Religion whose god does nothing for the women who contract gonorrhea from their husbands fucking animals, so that they go blind, and pass the disease on to their newborn children? You are saying that the Holy Ghost that Heals Christians is in that Religion, too? You cannot know what you are talking about. vannessa7: AFTER YEARS AS A CHRISTIAN, YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND SINGING IN CHURCH BEFORE THE DI-CALLED HOLY GHOST MANIFESTED- BUT, YOU CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND FROM BEING IN A MOSQUE? Your testimony is consistent with Devil-Possessed Insanity. WHAT did you "understand?" vannessa7: ANYONE WHO IS SPIRITUALLY-SENSITIVE, GOING INTO A DEVIL-POSSESSED ZONE, WITHOUT GOD WILL COME UNDER SPIRITUAL ATTACK- AND COULD DIE. This happened to T.L. OSBORN, when he first went to India. The same thing later happened to MORRIS CERULLO. [See: T.L. OSBORN AND DAISY OSBORN TELL THEIR STORY. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlA4aK6VAOA THE BACKSIDE OF SATAN, by Morris Cerullo (1973).] |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 2:33am On Jun 17, 2021 |
Didov1:Jesus Christ is indeed not a mere prophet as He is instead God's Human avatar, the embodiment of the New Covenant Law promised by God from even the time of Abraham with which He said He would bless the nations of the world with. However, how many professing Christians, even today, know of this since the vast majority are carried away by doctrines and traditions of men, that which Jesus Christ declared were lies meant to decieve many away from the Truth of God. Many of those that fill your church houses are just as lost as this one who longer go around wearing the badge. Be sure you are not yourself just another badge wearer please. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 2:39am On Jun 17, 2021 |
analice107:It always crack me up when I see issues such as this one. I have friends who are not even believers who swear at one time or another of having similar thing happen to them. If the one who claims to believe says God did it, who did it for the one who does not even believe at all? |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by igbowoman: 4:43am On Jun 17, 2021 |
A young lady that attended church couldn't find a husband there got a muslim suitor and married the man and now is singing the praises of Islam. If you met with the Lord you cannot be a Muslim. It is a guarantee. You never knew him! Why do I say so? Jn 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no-one will snatch them out of my hand You never received that eternal life that is why quest for a husband could sway you. If you indeed received him you would remain in him. You were a church goer, you were not in Christ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Kobojunkie: 3:35pm On Jun 17, 2021 |
EPAINYOU:It is impossible to recieve the Holy Spirit through the following of the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ declared were lies fashioned to decieve people away from the Truth of God, Jesus Christ. According to Jesus Christ, it is only those who know the Truth - submit to and obey the teachings and rules as put down by Jesus Christ- that go on to be freed from bondage to sin. So it is impossible to be a Son of God while still clinging to laws out forth by men as well as Old Covenant laws which are defined separate from the New Covenant. Jesus Christ said by their fruits he shall know them who belong to Him. And He also said that those who belong to Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. So do not believe anyone who claims to have the Spirit of God without first examining their fruits. |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Jun 17, 2021 |
She believes Christians are worshipers of God as well, after all some do claim that it's when they joined one church or the other that their problems disappeared. So she got her own salvation in the other religion that means a worshiper of stone should be commended as long as he gets what he wants after rendering sacred service to his god STONE! igbowoman: |
Re: Why I Converted To Islam After 20yrs Of Being A Committed Christian by Childofaking: 5:14pm On Jun 17, 2021 |
vannessa7: Let me tell you Madam Venessa, the devil got you. He is the father of deception. As soon as you went into error, he just left you alone, no more bad dreams, no more oppressions, he will do anything for you to make sure you don't go back to the right way. it would have been the same thing if you had become an atheist, he will still leave you alone. what of the things you read in the Bible, that i am the way the truth and the life, nobody goes to the father except by me, so that is no longer true ? The Quran was written about 500 years after jesus came and you can see the it is just a copy and paste (bad copy) of the things in the bible. |
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