Ogaga4Luv:

When it comes to issues like this all God worshippers most especially christians and Muslims would throw back their backside. . . . I 've alot to share on this but firstly let all the God worshipper show their face here and contribute something sensible.

huxley:

Supposing God asked your to kill members of you family, friends, or neighbours, would you obey God's orders?  Supposing you BELIEVED unflinchingly that you have heard from God and that there is no way you could be mistaken about it, would you carry out the acts of killing your family, friends or neighbours?

huxley:

Supposing God asked your to kill members of you family, friends, or neighbours, would you obey God's orders?  Supposing you BELIEVED unflinchingly that you have heard from God and that there is no way you could be mistaken about it, would you carry out the acts of killing your family, friends or neighbours?

those who worship god know the nature of God. . . .why not strive to meet God to know His nature. . .that way u stop asking/making ridiculous assertions.

noetic16:

those who worship god know the nature of God. . . .why not strive to meet God to know His nature. . .that way u stop asking/making ridiculous assertions.

Ascony:


Now how can one strive to meet an imaginary being, i just dont really get it sometimes, how can u meet God? u mean by praying or fasting or reading the bible consistently or doing what exactly? what is that thing that u do to meet God? or is it going to church and fellowships everyday, or is it by being moral and living a good life? (a wise person knows its a necessity), because i have done all this things for 23 yrs of my life and i didnt meet God.
please tell me in a simple tone, what do one do to meet God?

manmustwac:

Its not a ridiculous assertion read ths story below about the boy who tried to killed his mother because his pastor told him that she was the person behind his misfortunes

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-395239.0.html

huxley:

Supposing God asked your to kill members of you family, friends, or neighbours, would you obey God's orders?  Supposing you BELIEVED unflinchingly that you have heard from God and that there is no way you could be mistaken about it, would you carry out the acts of killing your family, friends or neighbours?

Supposing God

Supposing God asked

Supposing God asked your to kill members of you family, friends, or neighbors

Supposing God asked your to kill members of you family, friends, or neighbours, [b]would you obey God's order[/b]s?

Supposing you BELIEVED unflinchingly that you have heard from God

and that there is no way you could be mistaken about it

would you carry out the acts of killing your family, friends or neighbours?

InesQor:

Jagunlabi, are you answering for Huxley? 

Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your dear son Isaac whom you love and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains that I'll point out to you."

God had not yet told Abraham that he DOES NOT accept burnt offerings of human beings, that was why it was a VALID test of Abraham's faith. He wasn't going to allow Abraham kill the boy. It's a different ball game now, when God has clearly told us that he does not accept such, and has warned us to stay clear of such. He will not ask us to do such a thing as he asked Abraham.

Huxley, please answer the questions. Thanks.

huxley:

Hello InesQor,

I was not talking specifically about sacrificing humans to God, although that is also something that God requires of his followers (see Lev 27: 29). I was talking about killing in generally. For instance, if God asked you to kill someone you did not like, would you do it?

[quote]u spent 23 years of your life on religious doctrines and u blame it on God? 

u meet God by seeking him in spirit and in truth.

.holiness without which no man shall see God

[quote]. . . . .for without faith it is impossible to please Him.

toba:

God would never tell any1 to kill who he doesnt like. Cos who is man for him to hate another man or dislike another man? God is the creator of all mankind and the God of all flesh. Since the time of christ any form of Jungle justices ceased. God doesnt delight in burnt offerings Psalm 51 16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it]: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart,

toba:

God would never tell any1 to kill who he doesnt like. Cos who is man for him to hate another man or dislike another man? God is the creator of all mankind and the God of all flesh. Since the time of Christ any form of Jungle justices ceased. God doesn't delight in burnt offerings Psalm 51 16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it]: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart,

huxley:

Hello Toba, check these out:


Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, [/b]whom you and your fathers have not known, [b]gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.


And with reference to what is happening in Nigeria at the moment

(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.

Fhemmmy:

God will never tell you to do that.

Tonye-t:

God can tell you to do that. Scriptures had instances of it.

Fhemmmy:

The part of the scriptures that you were refering to were in the Law of Moses and we are no more bound by that.
God will never tell you to go and kill

jagunlabi:

You mean that the bible god has changed his demeanour?I was under the impression that he never changes.

Fhemmmy:

He never changes, how he dealt with people of them is not same as how he deals with us.
At that time, people go to the priest to communicate with God, but now, we have direct access to God ourselves, God never changed, but He know how and best way to take us on

jagunlabi:

Alright then.The bible god did not change his ways towards the humans.He only "readjusted" the way he interracts with them, if i understood you correctly.Thank you very much for your wisdom.Now i understand.

toba:


Pls note the bolded and try to correlate them with these

Exodus 20
1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him



Theres no 'curse without a cause'

noetic16:

I honestly think it is unfair to link god with this. . . .why?. . .cos the dude did not reveal such revelation himself?. . . .a "pastor" claimed to have received such. . .what does one make of that?

why did the pastor not break the yoke? why give such an info without a remedy?

InesQor:

Huxley, there are many problems with your troublesome question. You need to sort them out first.

1. Which God? Who? I will assume in the following discussion that you refer to the same God that I and other Christians call God.

2. How does God ask you to do stuff? I know how God talks to me, but in this case, can you expatiate on this?

3. After answering #2 above, please explain what you understand about how God passes instructions to man. Does He explain the reason for His instructions, or he just asks you to carry out his orders the way a taskmaster whips a slave into action?

4. Tell us, Huxley, are you like the WOF people who believe that God's plans can be limited by the non-compliance of a puny human being? And also, from the answer to my 1st Question above, is it the nature of GOD to make this kind of request? What is the nature of God?

5. This borders on what I asked in #2 above. Is it what you believe unflinchingly (de facto information) that is the truth (de jure information) about what God said? How do you factor in possible cases of mental, psychological imbalances and the corruption of sin, limned as religion?

6. Once again, I ask you, how are you certain about whatever you think/believe (de facto) that God told you, that it is accurate (de jure)?

7. Please answer the six questions above, and therein you will find your answer to the seventh. If you don't, I will return to tell you what I believe.