Coldfeets:
Good news.

Let the veil of organized religion keep on falling off the eyes of the minions.

So that more and more people will come to see organized religion for what it really is: MIND CONTROL and TOTAL FALLACY.

How is it total fallacy explain this please or apologise for your inerrancy

SpecialAdviser:
Well, what more can I say? I wish him well on his decision. It doesn't in any way make him condemned.

One fact is that the gate of hell cannot prevail against the church Christ himself established
We Catholics should learn to love our priests. These guys are really trying and their vow of celibacy is just very difficult in this sex age. They are all human beings like us with body and blood. They suffer to fetch souls in a most difficult conditions.

PLEASE STOP CONDEMNING PRIESTS. STOP GOSSIPING ABOUT THEM AS WELL. PRAY FOR THEM DAILY.

Celibacy my foot.
99.9% of them have girlfriends and Fûck!

adetayo234:
is that the lie that tell you in the camp of Satan you belong to? Read 1Cor 7, especially verses 1,7 and 8. Maybe those verses can cure You of your annoying stupidity

I suppose you are a Catholic bro. I shiver when I see my brothers descend so low as to insult this much, pls you can pass your massage without name calling. Thanks

talk2percy:
guy, a boy of Twelve to thirteen years knows nothing about celibacy, and that is exactly the time one enters the seminary. And all through his stay in the seminary, they are formed to live fake and pretentious life till either one decides to live a real life by bowing out or going into the priesthood just not to disappoint his family or the community or the society(societal pressure) and live the rest of his life pretending or in regrets most often, that is why apparently 99.9 percent of catholic priests are not virgins. So this guy apparently wants to live a free and normal life devoid of self deceit. There's no such thing as living a celibate life amongst priests and they know that...

. Devil will always punish liars like you. Just because you want to criticize what you did not know you will be saying nonsense. No priest enter the seminary at 12 or 13yrs because you must finish secondary school and have your 5 credits. Even now in some diocese you must pass your JAMB. After that you go for one year SPIRITUAL YEAR before going into major seminary. If you don't know something keep quiet. It's not by force. You can decide to leave the seminary anytime before your ordination and you have 9yrs to do that. Don't turn yourself to liar because you want to win cheap argument.

meezynetwork:
OK oh

He thinks say to follow christ na small tin

Na only kidnapping he come dey shiver!

He purposely sent to carry out his delusion action

Still can't believe it....bt God knows d best...

jonnytad:
Only God knows what happened to him, maybe He was made to defile himself, maybe He was setup to do something He couldn't live with, maybe the person responsible is in His congregation and He can't continue looking at him knowing he can't talk...... Only God can tell.
Let us continue to pray for all this pastors, priests and reverend. Even the imams and alfas bcoz they their actions and inactions affect us directly or indirectly.

My thoughts exactly; God bless you for this sensible comment!!

babaolofin:


Then, they should not stop them from leaving. Even Jesus did not force his apostles to remain with him. In fact after 3 yrs, when all Jesus disciples left remaining only the 12 Apostles, he asked them if they also want to leave.

It is not a cult. If you said if they know they will leave they shouldn't have joined priesthood , then, you are turning it to cult & making the oath of priesthood a secret society oath which it is not.

Nobody is preventing any one from leaving.

Penalty82:


You didn't read to verse 12 to know that Paul was only talking on his own not as commanded by God.

St. Paul was speaking as someone filled with the Holy Spirit bro. I believe you know what that means.

Jonathan:
How can we pray for d0lts?
Where did you people get that idea of celibacy to worship God from? Nonsense

from the Bible, you should read it sometimes.

1 cor 7;32
I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the

have a nice day

philfearon:

Celibacy my foot.
99.9% of them have girlfriends and Fûck!

you are God who sees men's heart or you are lying about something you don't know about.

djoe21:


St. Paul was speaking as someone filled with the Holy Spirit bro. I believe you know what that means.

Did God himself discouraged marriage?.

Your answer to this question will show you the Apostle Paul was speaking based on his own understanding.

Andy2274:
. Devil will always punish liars like you. Just because you want to criticize what you did not know you will be saying nonsense. No priest enter the seminary at 12 or 13yrs because you must finish secondary school and have your 5 credits. Even now in some diocese you must pass your JAMB. After that you go for one year SPIRITUAL YEAR before going into major seminary. If you don't know something keep quiet. It's not by force. You can decide to leave the seminary anytime before your ordination and you have 9yrs to do that. Don't turn yourself to liar because you want to win cheap argument.

and for ur dull mind, junior seminary doesn't exist? What do u think u know? How old were u when entered secondary school? I am telling u of the system I know and that I passed through u are here saying trash. Shut ur mouth and don't quote me if u have nothing to say...I don't argue with those that knows nothing about the church.

Penalty82:


Did God himself discouraged marriage?.

Your answer to this question will show you the Apostle Paul was speaking based on his own understanding.

No one discouraged marriage. Not God, not St. Paul and not the catholic church.

St. Paul gave an admonition as someone with Christ's authority who was very much filled with the Holy Spirit. So invariably God is the one speaking.

djoe21:


No one discouraged marriage. Not God, not St. Paul and not the catholic church.

St. Paul gave an admonition as someone with Christ's authority who was very much filled with the Holy Spirit. So invariably God is the one speaking.

If it was God speaking why did Paul say this?.

1Corinthians 7:12
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord:

talk2percy:
and for ur dull mind, junior seminary doesn't exist? What do u think u know? How old were u when entered secondary school? I am telling u of the system I know and that I passed through u are here saying trash. Shut ur mouth and don't quote me if u have nothing to say...I don't argue with those that knows nothing about the church.

. Keep quiet! You didn't pass through any system. You are absolutely lying and you are not even a Catholic. There is no junior seminary. You only have MINOR SEMINARY and it is a secondary school. That you attend a MINOR SEMINARY does not mean you must be a priest or an automatic ticket to MAJOR SEMINARY. Many priest didn't even attend MINOR SEMINARY yet they went straight to SPIRITUAL YEAR and then MAJOR SEMINARY. Even in MAJOR SEMINARY your first degree in philosophy is like a normal university degree because it is affiliated to some university. SS PETER AND PAUL MAJOR SEMINARY at BODIJA IBADAN is affiliated to UI because your first degree in philosophy bears UI if you decide not to go further you can go for NYSC with the certificate. ALEX USIFOH the actor is an example go and confirm so also with many others. ALL SAINTS MAJOR SEMINARY EKPOMA is affiliated to UNIBEN or so. So also with other MAJOR SEMINARY across Nigeria. The church will not admit you into MAJOR SEMINARY if you don't have 5 credits and did not finish secondary school and if you are above 25yrs. Stop lying that you are a Catholic or passed through the system because if you do you will know all these simple things. Maybe you are one of the sit down look Catholics or bench warmers. Make findings before taking trash. Visit your initial write up to see how confused you are.

Ubenedictus:
you are God who sees men's heart or you are lying about something you don't know about.

See you... I have a girlfriend who is a girlfriend to one even. And i knew already even before i met her!!

Penalty82:


If it was God speaking why did Paul say this?.

1Corinthians 7:12
But to the rest speak I, not the Lord:

Yes he said that because there was no direct teaching/command from Christ about the issue he was addressing (like the questions asked about the unmarried 1Cor 7:25-28). So he taught based on his understanding and what he believed was right. Now St. Paul being an apostle, having all authority in Christ, filled and influenced by the Holy Spirit, we believe that it is most likely the right teaching. And we ought to adhere to it as christians.

djoe21:


Yes he said that because there was no direct teaching/command from Christ about the issue he was addressing (like the questions asked about the unmarried 1Cor 7:25-28). So he taught based on his understanding and what he believed was right. Now St. Paul being an apostle, having all authority in Christ, filled and influenced by the Holy Spirit, we believe that it is most likely the right teaching. And we ought to adhere to it as christians.

djoe21
What do you have to say about this?.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife:and they shall be one flesh.


Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

gemale:

So if RCCG moves their headquarters from ebute metta elsewhere, they have stopped being RCCG. Does that invalidate the late pa akindayomi as their founder? Constantine might have playing a role in institutionalising the church but that doesn't mean it didn't exist before him. There was a church before the Nicene council. The council didn't found a new church. It was just a forum to streamline doctrines & do away with teachings that were not compatible.

(claps) i see that the aim is to prove that the 'church' that existed then was catholic!!(just like telling a judge to overlook strong, irrefutable evidence) i rest my case.

Penalty82:


You didn't read to verse 12 to know that Paul was only talking on his own not as commanded by God.

Does that now mean those who follow Paul's advice are going against the will of God?

Ask yourself this question and be sincere to yourself.

adetayo234:


Does that now mean those who follow Paul's advice are going against the will of God?

Ask yourself this question and be sincere to yourself.

Paul once told Timothy to take little alcohol b'cos of his stomach, today that instruction has bn misinterpreted by so many.

l leave you with this from the same Paul.

1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry:for it is better to marry than to burn.

Penalty82:



djoe21
What do you have to say about this?.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife:and they shall be one flesh.


Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Good questions. But you see before the fall, PROCREATION was the most important thing for man so as to fill up the earth with his perfect offspring. But after falling through sin, while procreation is still relevant, gaining SALVATION has become the most important thing for man (Matt 6:33. 13:44-45. 19:12).

Infact man is not only expected to gain salvation for himself but to help others do so in anyway he can. He must also never be a stumbling block to anyone (1Cor 8:13), (Luke 17:1-3).

So as christians, we should understand that procreation (marriage) is not the ultimate anymore but making heaven and helping others to do so. Remember in heaven there will be no marriage because we shall be like the angels (Mark 12:20-24).

Jesus also made us understand in Matt 19:1-12 that marriage does not apply to all but to those whom God has called to it. Infact the apostles implied that being unmarried was better (Matt 19:10) and St. Paul shared similar sentiment in 1Cor 7:38

Which ever the call is (marriage or celibacy), we must remember that our first and primary call is to LOVE - love God and love humanity (Matt 5:44, 22:35-40), (Jn 13:34-35), (1Cor 13:1-13), (1Jn 2::7-11, 3:22-23), for in love there is no sin for God Himself is love -1Jn 4:8

Penalty82:


Paul once told Timothy to take little alcohol b'cos of his stomach, today that instruction has bn misinterpreted by so many.

l leave you with this from the same Paul.

1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry:for it is better to marry than to burn.

So, are you saying anyone who obeys the instructions /advices of Paul is working against the will of God? Answer in sincerity to your conscience.

Penalty82:


Paul once told Timothy to take little alcohol b'cos of his stomach, today that instruction has bn misinterpreted by so many.

l leave you with this from the same Paul.

1 Corinthians 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry:for it is better to marry than to burn.

Read 1Corinthians 7:38

adetayo234:


So, are you saying anyone who obeys the instructions /advices of Paul is working against the will of God? Answer in sincerity to your conscience.

Some instructions of Paul were directed to those concerned at that moment and he speaks based on circumstances on ground.

Paul said it is not good to marry and he later said to marry is better than to burn. The only way you can reconcile this is to check what God said concerning marriage which is the supreme.

Penalty82:


Some instructions of Paul were directed to those concerned at that moment and he speaks based on circumstances on ground.

Paul said it is not good to marry and he later said to marry is better than to burn. The only way you can reconcile this is to check what God said concerning marriage which is the supreme.

How does your argument prove that it is a sin not to marry? You are not really interested in seeing from other people's perspective. Your intention is to sha win argument at all cost.

adetayo234:

Read 1Corinthians 7:38

Read verse 39

Penalty82:


Some instructions of Paul were directed to those concerned at that moment and he speaks based on circumstances on ground.

Paul said it is not good to marry and he later said to marry is better than to burn. The only way you can reconcile this is to check what God said concerning marriage which is the supreme.

Before, you kept on shouting that it is not in the Bible, deceiving people that lack scriptural knowledge. And now that we have shown you that it is in the Bible, you are looking for another excuse. May God save your soul from obstinacy.

adetayo234:


How does your argument prove that it is a sin not to marry? You are not really interested in seeing from other people's perspective. Your intention is to sha win argument at all cost.

God said that it is not good for a man to be without a wife.

Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Penalty82:


Read verse 39

How does verse 39 have any import on verse 38? Calm down, remove the scale of bias from your eyes and mind, then read it with an unbiased mind bent on winning an argument, and you will discover that there is no import.

adetayo234:


Before, you kept on shouting that it is not in the Bible, deceiving people that lack scriptural knowledge. And now that we have shown you that it is in the Bible, you are looking for another excuse. May God save your soul from obstinacy.

It is not biblical not to marry b'cos God didn't say we shouldn't marry.