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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:46pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

Other than spreading senseless terrorism propaganda and conniving with terrorists, you have nothing to show Nigerian soldiers aren't the best on the continent.


There are multiple real life photos on this site, which back up may fact. There are no insults.

Nigerian soldiers? Best on the continet?

Unable to defeat RUF after 10 years
Unable to defeat any of the 18 rebel groups in nigeria
Mutiny
Attempted assassination of officers

Yeah, they are the best, the best at being the worst
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:49pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

They do not lack APC's, neither would APC's save troops from 14.5mm.

We spend more on trainings than any other country on this continent.

There is no proof of nigerian military personnel RUNNING away from combat.

They do not lack APC's, neither would APC's save troops from 14.5mm.

False

We spend more on trainings than any other country on this continent.

False - we spend 2 years training men before they are considered for the regular army. I have also lost count of the number of exercises at the Brigade level that we have every year.

Its not even a comparison.

There is no proof of nigerian military personnel RUNNING away from combat.

Yes there is. Or have you lost the sight of your eyes?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:49pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

This is your SANDF.

Oh blimey ! cheesy
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:52pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

Troops get all the equipment they need. From AK's to RPG's, MGL's, AGL's, IFV's, AFV's and more.

It is a properly equipped military.

http://www.beegeagle./2014/08/16/nigerian-forces-well-trained-and-equipped-to-counter-the-boko-haram-threat-olukolade/


Your irresponsible troops in south-africa constantly carry out strikes.

Your military is a low-moraled, HIV ridden, pathetic retirement home.


"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"





"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"



"The air force, for example, has been reduced to being a flying limousine service for African National Congress politicians"


" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."




Is the SANDF a military?

We have had 1 strike by off duty soldiers - NA troopers have mutinied and also shot at their officers, people in glass houses should not throw stones cheesy

Your men do not have MGLs or AGLs in common service

Those posts mean nothing, most are from a opinion peace - and when you post them we know we have you by the short and curlys

Beegeagle is a propaganda peice, his information is worth as much as the p1ss that comes out of my cock
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:54pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

This is your SANDF.

The SANDF that has never lost a single yard of national territory to enemy combatants

The SANDF that has never let THOUSANDS of civilians get slaughtered by terrorists

Again, you are posting an opinion peice that has been completely debunked - the fact that you constantly repost it shows that you have no argument
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 3:55pm On Aug 28, 2014
Can somebody please share that picture which shows Nigerian soldiers returning from Cameroon. 1. No vehicles 2. Heavy infantry weapons AGLs,MGLs,mortars,heavy machine guns etc. 3. They were pulling a "tactical manoeuvre" on foot without coordination with the force commander,headquarters nor did they have maps?. Conclusion: These boys ran for their lives. I don't blame them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:57pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

True every military flies VVIP, but your Airforce(SAAF) is only funded for VIP, and VVIP trips alone, and get virtually nothing for training, S&R get nothing. Your Defence review shows your military has and would always be hopeless.


He posted photos of nigerian troops backed by Armour and artillery pieces. You don't fight from inside your APC's.


AGL's, MGL's, IFV's, AFV's are not a problem for nigeria. Troops field them in combat, not for some petty little photo-shoot.

1. We spend more on training than you spend on warfare
2. The DR says that BY OUR STANDARDS we are starting to slip, BY YOUR STANDARDS we would be fine
3. You have a complete lack of AGL'S, MGL's, IFV's and AFV's - fact
4. Nigerian combat involves running away and letting civilians get killed - yeah, serious combat there
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:58pm On Aug 28, 2014
agaugust:

That was SADF not SANDF....and Bush war was 20 years ago, South Africa has fallen 10 times weaker today. Fact !

Seleka won't defeat the former SADF military of Apartheid South Africa era ! Fact !
.

SADF is the SANDF because the SADF BECAME the SANDF

Yes the bush war was 20 years ago.. a 18 or 17 year old soldier who fought back then is how old now? HE IS THE PREFECT AGE FOR A SENIOR NCO OR OFFICER!!

We dont lack experience.

It is you whom lacks experience.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 3:59pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

We have had 1 strike by off duty soldiers

Your men do not have MGLs or AGLs in common service

Those posts mean nothing, most are from a opinion peace - and when you post them we know we have you by the short and curlys

Beegeagle is a propaganda peice, his information is worth as much as the p1ss that comes out of my cock
we can't really say it was "strike",since the soldiers weren't on duty. It was just a protest.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:59pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


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http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.




Master-Blaster 10/10 post . This will go on record for this forum

.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:59pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

Well, according to your defence minister and parliamentarians, they aren't.


" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."



And I'll take your defence ministers comment any day over yours.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:00pm On Aug 28, 2014
agaugust:

They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

You have never heard of high mobility warfare?

because BH has... and that is why they are winning cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:04pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


==============
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.



Bollocks

We receive no training from the british or americans

You have completely misquoted the source

and again. BY OUR STANDARDS we are beginning to slip - by your standards we would be A OK

REMINDER:

SANDF HAS NEVER LOST A SINGLE YARD OF RSA TERRITORY TO ENEMY COMBATANTS
NA HAS LOST MULTIPLE TOWNS

SANDF HAS NEVER LET SOUTH AFRICANS BE KILLED LIKE FLIES BY TERRORISTS
NA HAS LET NIGERIA TOP THE WORLD TERROR RANKINGS

SANDF HAS DEFEATED MULTIPLE INSURGENTS - IN AREAS OF OPERATION THOUSANDS OF KM's FROM HOME
NA HAS NOT DEFEATED ANY OF THE 18 REBEL GROUPS IN NIGERIA - AND IS LOSING THE WAR AGAINST BH
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:05pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

Before I forget, south-africa is the murder capital of the world.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures



Tell me another story.

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition," Maynier said. This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs."


Mapisa-Nqakula stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.




Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group, said in a report titled “Frontier Market Sentiment Index”.

The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms.

Nigeria emerged the number one frontier-market economy in Africa in terms of attracting the most attention from European and American multinationals.





http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa

1. South Africa is not the murder capital of the world
2. South Africa is the No1 FDI receiver in Africa

and dude... if you knew what a frontier market was... you would not be bragging about it...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:05pm On Aug 28, 2014
agaugust:

Even Togo republic can do that ! You Dumbo
.

Nigeria cannot do that... so why would Togo be able to do so?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:08pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

LMAO!!!!

You want to discuss technology you do not have. Pathetic bro. This is a new low coming from you. After conniving with terrorists, you want to go into technology that are non-existent in your HIV defence force.


You should start proving Nigerian soldiers ran away? They combated, and continue to combat the enemy across the borders and into the deserts.

Your security services receive training from the americans and british, they also get hand out equipments from the west. No wonder you guys are massive western a$slickers.


You have no Data links. For how long you're going to continue with this lie?

1. No datalink?

http://www.reutech.co.za/news-events/news-archive/50-sandf-s-link-za

SANDF has a data-link - fact

2. There is not technology you have that we do not have - and have had for years

3. We have received no training from the Americans or British - infact, we sink their fleets and train THEIR men.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:09pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

SADF is the SANDF because the SADF BECAME the SANDF

Yes the bush war was 20 years ago.. a 18 or 17 year old soldier who fought back then is how old now? HE IS THE PREFECT AGE FOR A SENIOR NCO OR OFFICER!!

We dont lack experience.

It is you whom lacks experience.
All soldiers from the homelands defence forces and freedom movements,were evaluated by the SADF before integration. After judging their skills,knowledge,experience,qualifications etc a perfect rank would be awarded.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:09pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:
It doesn't change the fact you are the murder capital of the world.


Yes I know what she talking about. She simply saying no military in africa can be as pathetic as the SANDF. She is saying your HIV force has been in decline and still is.

She is saying your defence force is a hopeless retirement home.

She is saying, you have no money to run your military. Dummy.


I've answered all your question, and have showed and continue to show your military is pathetic.



Lol, what is this comedy central, or "night" of a thousand laughs"?

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

Nigeria Operates the most advanced surveillance assets in Africa.

Camera systems
Satellite systems
Elint surveillance systems
Augusta S&R helicopters
Bell S&R helicopters.

I have been entertaining your posts up until now.

But I have just realized that you are suffering another emotional breakdown. This post is litterally not worth the key strokes I have made.

Get back to us when you have taken your pills.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689: [/quote]

You keep posting the same shit over and over again.


It doesn't however change this fact


[quote author=MikeZA] 1. What's the standard APC of the Nigerian army? 2. How much is spent on training a single Nigeria soldiers. 3. You'll eat humble pie Henry. 2. APCs protected soldiers from the deadliest battlefield weapons,such as mortars,shells,small arms fire,IEDs,land mines etc

I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


==============
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:14pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

You keep posting the same shit over and over again.


It doesn't however change this fact




I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


==============
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.


"Oh look mom I posted it again"-@Henry120

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:14pm On Aug 28, 2014
MikeZA: Can somebody please share that picture which shows Nigerian soldiers returning from Cameroon. 1. No vehicles 2. Heavy infantry weapons AGLs,MGLs,mortars,heavy machine guns etc. 3. They were pulling a "tactical manoeuvre" on foot without coordination with the force commander,headquarters nor did they have maps?. Conclusion: These boys ran for their lives. I don't blame them.

ask and you shall receive

Pic 1 is of them being escorted back over the border

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:15pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

1. South Africa is not the murder capital of the world
2. South Africa is the No1 FDI receiver in Africa

and dude... if you knew what a frontier market was... you would not be bragging about it...

South-Africa, the nation that grew by 0.6 % in the 3rd quarter. Pathetic nation that almost went into recession in 2014.

LMAO

So this is what you're proud of, dummy.

Nigeria recives the highest FDI in Africa. Nigeria is the largest, biggest and most developed market in Africa.


I see you're proud your 11% majority white, 85% controlled economy with a 0.6% growth.

You're a real "dummy genius".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

ask and you shall receive

Pic 1 is of them being escorted back over the border

PIC 1, shows a niger-delta vegetation.

The north-east is a desert, semi arid region fool.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:16pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

You keep posting the same shit over and over again.


It doesn't however change this fact




I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


==============
http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.



So you dont have an argument all?

You are just going to re-post opinion peices?

Get back to us when the SANDF fails to hold all of our land and allows thousands of civilians to be slaughtered

Because, until then, we will allways be better than you.

Do you hear that?

Its the sound of 3 000 dead nigerian civilians cursing the NA!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:19pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

South-Africa, the nation that grew by 0.6 % in the 3rd quarter. Pathetic nation that almost went into recession in 2014.

LMAO

So this is what you're proud of, dummy.

Nigeria recives the highest FDI in Africa. Nigeria is the largest, biggest and most developed market in Africa.


I see you're proud your 11% majority white, 85% controlled economy with a 0.6% growth.

You're a real "dummy genius".

We have just come out of strike season, jackass, the 0.6% is nothing scary. Your economy would contract if your oil workers had the freedom to strike. but they dont as Nigeria is not a free country.

Not to mention that South Africa is completely integrated into global markets and as a result has been hit by the Americans policy decisions on Q.E

You are not the most developed market in Africa - proven by the fact that you are defined as a FRONTIER MARKET

The FDI issue has been provem beyond a Shadow of a doubt - We are the top FDI receiver, and even Kenya receives more than you

And stop with the racism. Who cares who owns what in South Africa? They are all South African!! Because your government is whoring your country out to the Chinese and West, just like Nigerians sold other Nigerians into slavery!! cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 4:20pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

ask and you shall receive

Pic 1 is of them being escorted back over the border
The second picture is heartbreaking LOOOL.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:21pm On Aug 28, 2014
Henry120:

PIC 1, shows a niger-delta vegetation.

The north-east is a desert, semi arid region fool.

Yeah, Geography says no.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 4:21pm On Aug 28, 2014
Msauza:

Now you are jumping and shifting to expenditures. Why do you like this your goal post shifting tendency just like your brother @agaugust.

You are spending more than 2× your budget. Shame!!!
reputable citation for ur acclaimed $100 billion budget

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:21pm On Aug 28, 2014
North-east

Now spot the difference dummy, Patches689 and Mike.ZA.

Have fun lying to yourselves. You gonna soon receive a nobel price for lying.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 28, 2014
MikeZA: "Oh look mom I posted it again"-@Henry120

Oh look mommy, I posted it again.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:24pm On Aug 28, 2014
MikeZA:

Our air force always perform well,from rescuing victims,combat search and rescue all over SADC,mounting rescues,sea rescue(Nigerian air force is still to develop that.

Wow ! South African air force was tied to a tree like a goat, when Nigerian military power was called in by Angola to carry out force projection operation inside your SADC defense zone. SANDF cannot even rescue itself, Angola cried to Nigeria for help, and we saved them inside your SADC tongue

.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:26pm On Aug 28, 2014
patches689:

Yeah, Geography says no.

My front-line photos, say yes.

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