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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:22pm On Sep 26, 2014
agaugust:

Bwahahaha grin grin grin

Those are American troops in Iraq, Abuja WEF meeting area is the city centre NOT a bush and sand village in your photo grin grin

Then your US troops in fake Abuja are wearing desert camo uniform to patrol Abuja city centre? Abuja is NOT a desert.

Enjoy more US Troops in Iraq photos with desert camo for your pleasure grin grin

http://www.army.mil/article/33802/New_Iraqi_tanker_unit_takes_the_lead/

Worry not African brother,cause your big brother from the South is coming to rescue you. grin grin grin


The South African Army will be on standby from December 1 to deploy as part of the African Union's African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crisis force.

Currently 1500 soldiers - including from the infantry, artillery and armoured divisions, engineers and medics - are preparing for combat in some of the deadliest hot spots, including fighting Islamist terrorists in Somalia, Mali and Nigeria.


http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/09/26/gearing-for-war

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:23pm On Sep 26, 2014
AugustineAgain:

[size=16pt] Valour frigate CANNOT harm Alpha jets flying at 12 km above sea level, but the Alpha jet will b.omb Valour frigates to kingdom come sea bottom. I proved that to @Andrewza last year, don't play with that fire again, it disgraced your over-priced warships.

One Alpha jet will sink ALL four Valour frigates in one day !
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You failed to anserw how you will hit a moving ship from 12km high with unguided weapons.

To hit the RN ships with dumb bombs the Argies flew so close that many bombs failed to arm.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:26pm On Sep 26, 2014
AugustineAgain:

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Most airforces in this world don't want a single role attack only dedicated helicopter like Rooicalk, and those air forces are more powerful than South African airforce. Mighty Ethiopian and Braziliian air forces are some of them, they fly only multi-role combat helicopters combining attack with transport like Mi-35 Hind. However, during attack mission most Hinds do not carry troops, they operate in attack mode only.

Mi-35M of Nigeria carries 2,500 kg of weapons, Rooivalk of SAAF carries only 1,500 kg of weapons.

Also the Mi-35M carries guided bombs, bigger 30mm gun, and 20km range rockets....All those are missing on your inferior Rooivalks.

Nigeria has Africa's most powerful combat helicopter fleet today !

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USA, Germany, UK, France, Netherlands, South Korea, Japan, turkey, Italy, extra extra all use dedicated attack helicopters even china and Russia are building dedicated attack helicopters. Hinds do both jobs worse than the dedicated version.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 5:51pm On Sep 26, 2014
Denel Dynamics is busy with a proof of concept project to improve the accuracy of standard 155 mm artillery rounds, the company has announced.

The project aims to develop a precision fuse, dubbed the AcuFuse, within the same footprint as a MIL-STD-333B Multi-option Fuse for Artillery (MOFA) short intrusion fuse.

This will allow artillery operators to select an accurate solution by simply replacing the standard fuse with the AcuFuse when high-precision firing is required. Due to its accuracy, aimed to be between 10 m and 20 m circular error probability at all ranges, AcuFuse will minimize collateral damage on the battlefield, Denel said. It will also decrease the logistics support required due to the fact that fewer ammunition rounds would be required.

AcuFuse utilises the guidance and control technologies of Denel Dynamics with the inertial sensor technologies of UTC Aerospace Systems, based in Plymouth in the UK.

Denel Dynamics and UTC Aerospace Systems have executed a number of successful risk-reduction firings that will be followed by guided firings with a weapon that could be fielded in 2016.

There is a worldwide requirement for this type of weapon, which will also enhance the Denel Group’s artillery capability. The same technology can also be applied to other artillery products such as 120 mm mortars and 105 mm artillery, Denel said.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 5:54pm On Sep 26, 2014
A Army Chief, Lieutenant General Vusi Masondo, has shed light on South Africa’s contribution to the African Union peacekeeping initiative known as the African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crises (ACIRC).

Speaking during the Exercise Seboka open day at the army Combat Training Centre (CTC) in Northern Cape he said the landward element of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) would contribute a motorised infantry battalion (9 SA Infantry Battalion), a composite armoured car squadron from 1 Special Service Battalion and 1 SA Infantry Battalion, a light artillery battery (1 Light Artillery Regiment), an air-mobile anti-aircraft battery (10 Anti-Aircraft Regiment), a composite signal squadron drawn from 1, 2 and 5 Signal regiments and sub-sub-units from 2 Field Engineer Regiment and 1 Tactical Intelligence Regiment.

The SA Air Force’s (SAAF) involvement in the ACIRC force will see a mobile air operations team (MAOT), two Gripen jets (referred to by Masondo as “attack aircraft”), a pair of C-130BZ transports, two Rooivalk combat support helicopters as well as a pair each of Oryx and Agusta A-109 helicopters.

“The SA Navy adds to the fold a boat squadron and accompanying marines and support elements while SA Military Health Services will provide the entire force with a medical task group and a level two hospital.

“Finally, the SA Military Police will also contribute a platoon bringing the total strength of the force to in excess of 1 500,” Masondo said.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Sep 26, 2014
MikeZA: Worry not African brother,cause your big brother from the South is coming to rescue you. grin grin grin


The South African Army will be on standby from December 1 to deploy as part of the African Union's African Capacity for Immediate Response to Crisis force.

Currently 1500 soldiers - including from the infantry, artillery and armoured divisions, engineers and medics - are preparing for combat in some of the deadliest hot spots, including fighting Islamist terrorists in Somalia, Mali and Nigeria.


http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/09/26/gearing-for-war

This is the Hogwash you get fed in South-Africa....... Pathetic country. The same bullsh1t your fantasy dreaming journalist throw up and you swallow, hook, line and sinker.

The same hogwash your newspapers fed you after getting roundly defeated in the C.A.R.

I really, really want to smoke some of the stuff you south-africans smoke. It is obviously very strong.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:01pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

This is the Hogwash you get feed in South-Africa....... Pathetic country. The same bullsh1t your fantasy dreaming journalist throw up and you swallow, hook, line and sinker.

The same hogwash your newspapers fed you after getting roundly defeated in the C.A.R.

I really, really want to smoke some of the stuff you south-africans smoke. It is obviously very strong.

our para troopers did better in CAR than your solders in Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:12pm On Sep 26, 2014
patches689:

1. Proof is in the artical. As Africa's leader, it wont be hard to pull off
2. SAS Drakensberg is a supply vessel - well done, you scared off a logistics vessel. Must be deseperate to brag about that.
3. You have no Su-30's, and the Valour Class will eat Alpha jets for breakfast

Free bombs against a moving target?

Well we know free fall bombs are capable but not effective against warships. Unlike torpedoes which break the keel of the ship,sending massive amount of sea water in,inevitably seeking ship.

In case of normal free bombs,they penetrate the ship's structure from above,before donating. It takes time for the ship to sink,in some case it might even limp home or its company formally abandon it.

Unless luckily the ship's magazine is struck.

To attack ships you'll have to fly amazingly low,to get a better strike. Exposing your self to the ship's defence weapons systems from 76mm naval gun,missiles,CIWS,cannons,RWS to machine guns and if desperate assault rifles by the ship's company.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:17pm On Sep 26, 2014
patriot4: what do you call the MI35M ?
It might not even be a MI-35M.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:20pm On Sep 26, 2014
andrewza:

our para troopers did better in CAR than your solders in Nigeria.

Your soldiers got roundly and utterly defeated in CAR. No question about this.

Nigerian troops have been kicking butt in modern african war-fare since 1991( sierra-leone, ) 1993 (somalia) etc etc.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:24pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Your soldiers got roundly and utterly defeated in CAR. No question about this.

Nigerian troops have been kicking butt in modern african war-fare since 1991( sierra-leone, ) 1993 (somalia) etc etc.

they defended our bases against a massive enemy force. Your guys have had entire towns lost and shot at there own commanders.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:37pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Yeah, the second photo. I guess it's the Ingwe ATGM.

Basic models carry a 25mm cannon?
The are four variants.

1. Fire support.(GI-30 gun)

2. Mortar.(M6 60mm long range mortar)

4.Missile.(Ingwe anti-tank missile).

3.Command(GI-30).

They're all fitted on a single design turret.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:38pm On Sep 26, 2014
andrewza:

they defended our bases against a massive enemy force. Your guys have had entire towns lost and shot at there own commanders.

Oga, you got your as$ handed to you in CAR, this is a well established fact.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:42pm On Sep 26, 2014
MikeZA: The are four variants.

1. Fire support.(GI-30 gun)

2. Mortar.(M6 60mm long range mortar)

4.Missile.(Ingwe anti-tank missile).

3.Command.(Machine gun).

They're all fitted on a single design turret.

Does the basic model come with a secondary MG for supplementary fire? I don't think I've seen any with a Secondary asides it's main cannon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:43pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

This is the Hogwash you get feed in South-Africa....... Pathetic country. The same bullsh1t your fantasy dreaming journalist throw up and you swallow, hook, line and sinker.

The same hogwash your newspapers fed you after getting roundly defeated in the C.A.R.

I really, really want to smoke some of the stuff you south-africans smoke. It is obviously very strong.
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Sit tight,don't move and don't try provoke them.

The Saffers are coming!!!!!!

Diplomatically,through the media(PR),strategically,militarily,economically,technologically,infrastructure!!!!!
We are on the move. African leadership
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Sep 26, 2014
MikeZA: shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Sit tight,don't move and don't try provoke them.

The Saffers are coming!!!!!!

Diplomatically,through the media(PR),strategically,militarily,economically,technologically,infrastructure!!!!!
We are on the move. African leadership

It is going to be a sad sad day for south-africa. This I can assure you.

On the bright side, we would probably have that war we've been simulating all along.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:49pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Does the basic model come with a secondary MG for supplementary fire? I don't think I've seen any with a Secondary asides it's main cannon.
All versions have secondary armaments.


Another MG can also be mounted on the commander's hatch.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:53pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

It is going to be a sad sad day for south-africa. This I can assure you.

On the bright side, we would probably have that war we've been simulating all along.
The same military grappling with BH?

A movement that went from AK-47 rifles to capturing land with company of bigger formations?

SADC=SA shield and Spear.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:57pm On Sep 26, 2014
MikeZA: The same military grappling with BH?

A movement that went from AK-47 rifles to capturing land with company of bigger formations?

SADC=SA shield and Spear.

Keep up with this current rhetoric in your fantasy land, let it get to a diplomatic level, and see our diplomats change things for you, so quickly.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:08pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Yeah, the second photo. I guess it's the Ingwe ATGM.

Basic models carry a 25mm cannon?

There's no basic model, there are different models and the smallest gun is a 30mm... that tears infantry and light armoured vehicles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:15pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

This is the Hogwash you get fed in South-Africa....... Pathetic country. The same bullsh1t your fantasy dreaming journalist throw up and you swallow, hook, line and sinker.

The same hogwash your newspapers fed you after getting roundly defeated in the C.A.R.

I really, really want to smoke some of the stuff you south-africans smoke. It is obviously very strong.

lol... oh Henry120, you still haven't sorted out the low-energy syndrome you suffered from this morning. You're helplessly getting weaker with every post you make.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:22pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Your soldiers got roundly and utterly defeated in CAR. No question about this.

Nigerian troops have been kicking butt in modern african war-fare since 1991( sierra-leone, ) 1993 (somalia) etc etc.

Yet Boko keeps whipping your behind inside your own country... Naija soldiers are getting protected by their girlfriends.... hahahhaha

Oh by the way how close is Cameroon from the closest NA base?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:24pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

It is going to be a sad sad day for south-africa. This I can assure you.

On the bright side, we would probably have that war we've been simulating all along.

Sadly our simulations included the Aradu which is now a fish tank.... we simulated too soon.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:34pm On Sep 26, 2014
patriot4: I think you need to open your mind. There is no chance in hell that your Rooivalk could even be compared to the MI35M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8hFxXt1Mw

Dude, this is ancient weaponry. look at it, its fat and slow, it carries half the weapons the Rooivalk carries, it flies lower than the Rooivalk, it doesn't do those maneuvers the Rooivalk does, electronics, EWF, hack the list is endless.... the only better hind is the Hind South Africans make and its better because we make it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 7:39pm On Sep 26, 2014
patches689:

Its cuts both ways cheesy

Stop editing my comments and changing my words. If you want to argue, write your own lines. I could retaliate, you've done this several time and I warned you. Next time I will retaliate without further warning.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:43pm On Sep 26, 2014
Henry120:

Keep up with this current rhetoric in your fantasy land, let it get to a diplomatic level, and see our diplomats change things for you, so quickly.
No Rhetoric.

Fantasy land,that gets people arrested with suit cases of money.

Nigerians are so ignorant,delusional and with a sense of over confidence. This always gets you guys into trouble.

Your military and politicians highly underestimated BH,only to pay hefty price in bl.......


Mali was a disaster

But you won't hear single,bloke being critical about the apparent rot in the military
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:46pm On Sep 26, 2014
Msauza:


AU

Silly kid! Point to the AU resolution!! Nothing in your dreams ever seem to amaze me. grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:58pm On Sep 26, 2014
Msauza:



Yes it is, definately.

Foreigner carrying gun in Nigeria.

An idiot of your calibre will get lost someday in a rat hole! When did Nigerian soldiers start wearing green-yellow-and-red flags on their uniforms? Desperate little MsauZA

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:07pm On Sep 26, 2014
chris365:

so finally we agree i am "from". as for the rest of your ramblings, it's already obvious what an illiterate you are so no need educating you further. dumbo

Classic response for the idiot! Nice one Chris365.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:18pm On Sep 26, 2014
patches689:

First, wait and see

Second, you have nothing to sink it with

Patrick. Please get a grip. Nothing that you speak makes any sense. Wake up boy!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:27pm On Sep 26, 2014
patches689-Patrick:


Half french half south african

And more is not better.

Someone has finally and grudgingly admitted that Nigeria owns more military purpose helicopters than South Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:44pm On Sep 26, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi:

Someone has finally and grudgingly admitted that Nigeria owns more military purpose helicopters than South Africa.

Where is the part of the post says "I admit"?

We make both atack and troop carrier helicopters in Denel factories so we have more....infinity more.

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