agaugust:


Really? For free?

.

Patchesagain:


No jackass.

74 Hind were lost in Afghanistan alone

Patchesagain:


No jackass.

74 Hind were lost in Afghanistan alone

Patchesagain:


One.

One Apache shot down in Combat in over 11 years of continuous war.

77 Hind shot down during the shorter Russian war in Afghanistan.


And no, a helicopter is not a helicopter.

agaugust:


Smells like just another Mokopa propaganda

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agaugust:


Over how many years? And against hundreds of American supplied Stinger anti-aircraft missiles in the hands of Mujahideen against the Hind helicopters.

"Engineer Ghaffar of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hezb-i-Islami, brought down the first Hind gunship with a Stinger on September 25, 1986 near Jalalabad. The Central Intelligence Agency eventually supplied nearly 500 Stingers (some sources claim 1,500–2,000) to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as part of Operation Cyclone with the supply of 250 launchers."

If M23 Had AIM-92 Stinger hand held missiles we would have buried all your Rooivalk pilots in Congo DRC in one day
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Henry120:


You get dumber and dumber with each post. shot down, by an enemy that had Stinger missiles and other american supplied manpads.

patches689:


Soviet war in Afghanistan was 10years

NATO has been there for just longer than that

Rooivalk can defend against the stinger unlike the Hind

Anyway that is beside the point, you said a helicopter is a helixopter - I have shown you that it's not.

Patchesagain:


Nope, France did.

So that completely torpedoes your argument that Nigeria will never be led.

Thanks for playing.

NEXT!

agaugust:


You proved nothing ! Mumu !

You did not mention that your claim was in a long war of many years with thousands of American stinger missiles used against the Hind.

I showed you that so you can see how poorly you reason.

Helicopter is helicopter, they get shpt down easily when air defense is good.

The Afghan war Hinds were old version Hinds with no radar warning, laser warning, chaff and flares for counter measures against enemy air defenses. Nigeria is flying the latest and best versions of Hinds and we have all those protection on them, NAF combat helicopters are up to the same standard as the second most powerful country in the world....Russia.

Go kiss a frog if envy troubles you...Lady froggie will ease your tensions
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agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Nigerian army defeating Boko Haram as Africa's Gaint unleashes dreaded military might

Soon to set record of fastest defeat of Al-Qaeda/Taliban supported militancy in the world

Nigerian army emerging the current best army in the world by achievements

As NA destroys Boko Haram's force cohesion using rare world class tactics [/size]
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"Boko Haram losing grip
DAVID MOLOMO, YOLA
Sunday, October 12, 2014



Boko Haram losing grip
advertisement



- Deserter reveals how leadership vacuum, internal squabble, hunger, desertion by members made Adamawa military exploit possible


Indications abound that the Nigerian troops are getting upper hand against the Boko Haram sect.


Saturday Sun authoritatively gathered that recent breakthroughs by the Nigerian troops is also informed by the demise of a prominent leader of the insurgents, after the death of Abubakar Shekau at Konduga in Borno State. It is suggested that the weakening of the sect also results from power tussle amongst those who are jostling to lead the gang. The development, which our sources said, has led to internecine squabble even among the rank and file in the Boko Haram camp.


It will be recalled that, as a result of the friction, which culminated in the fierce battle within their ranks and the death of over 30 insurgents in the process, succession palaver, is also said to have informed the new development. In the circumstances, it would seem that things have begun to fall apart with the terror group.


Coupled with all that is the apparent disenchantment by those that were forcefully recruited. For example, there were hundreds that were recruited in Michika and Madagali localities of Adamawa State. According to one of them who deserted the group recently, they were mostly natives who were used by the insurgents to identify houses of prominent figures in government in the two localities and their environs.


Some of the indigenes, who were rescued from captivity during an interaction with Saturday Sun, maintained that the recent military breakthroughs were made possible because the cohesion that once existed within the group has begun to weaken and, therefore, the centre is beginning to bottom out.


The recruited natives, who claimed that they were hypnotized by the insurgents toward assisting in dishing out vital information, took the advantage of these recent breakthroughs of the troops to escape to Mubi and Yola, the state capital.


Aliu Dauda, one of those that escaped, relayed his experience in the camp to Saturday Sun. He said that many of them that were recruited were did not join on their volition. According to him, they hypnotized, using certain liquid substances.


"Most youths in Michika were forcefully recruited to join the gang, first as subsidiary staff. Failure to do their bidding attracted lashes or being shot in the leg or confined in an underground detention camp.


"We served as informants and any attempt to give out false information will be punished severely. The fact remains that we were placed under a spell, which made it possible for us to obey them. We discovered that we were doing everything they told us without complaints.


"I thank God that I survived and now in the midst of our kinsmen who have helped us to recover from the after effect of our abduction," Dauda enthused.


Adding, he said: "Those that forcefully recruited us do not have human feelings. While we were in their midst, we could not resist whatever they told us because a liquid substance was given to us."


When asked how he was able to escape, he said that, "first and foremost, there were disagreement and disenchantment between the rank and file of the gang and our supposed leaders. Those of us that were newly recruited five months ago, had to escape when it was apparent that Nigerian troops were having an edge over the Boko Haram sect.


"At the stage we were, we weren't given arms and ammunitions but rather our assignments were to give out information and identify locations and targets for destruction. We had not graduated to that stage; those recruited in Konduga and Gwoza were our seniors in the business of killing. We that were forcefully recruited in Gulak, Madagali and Michika, were considered not mature or trained to handle weapons or take charge of ammunition."


Dauda disclosed to Saturday Sun that hunger and starvation in the camp of the gang immensely contributed to the breakthroughs recorded by the Nigerian side. "As a result of hunger and starvation, the gang allowed the newly recruited to search everywhere for food. We were given this assignment because we are familiar with the localities. We had no choice but to break into people's houses who are our kinsmen to get raw food. Besides, houses of prominent persons in Michika were taken over by the sect."


Army recovers more towns, arms and ammunition


In recent times, Nigerian troops' successes over the insurgents have reverberated, especially with the capture of two armoured tanks belonging to the sect. Apart from serious casualty figures recorded by the group, the Nigerian military has also captured a massive armoury with arms and ammunitions belonging to the fleeing terrorists.


"The large quantities of weapons recovered in the raid are still being evacuated from the scene of the night raid where several terrorists died," Major General Chris Olukolade, the defence spokesman said recently. He added: "Similar operations took place in coordination with the troops of Multinational Joint Task Force in the raids in other camps located on the outskirts of Duguri, Polkime, Malafatori and other locations around the fringes of Lake Chad."


He also revealed that substantial amounts of "money in different currencies and denominations were recovered from the camps, while a total of seven terrorists were captured in the operation."


The statement also gave an update on the foiled attack on Giwa Barrack in Maiduguri, Olukolade had said: "Troops conducting cordon and search for remnants of the daring terrorists who attacked Giwa Barracks in Maiduguri, had an encounter with some of the surviving terrorists in the general area of Kayamla and Alu Dam on the outskirts of Maiduguri this morning. More of the terrorists have been killed and arrested in the ongoing encounters.


He added that more bodies of fleeing terrorists had been discovered along the routes of their escape. Troops' morale and fighting spirit have been further boosted by the outcome of the operations so far, he said, adding that cordon-and-search as well as patrols and pursuit by air and land were continuing in the entire mission area of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states.


http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/12/504.html

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overhypedsteve:
France didn't lead Afisma or any African interventive force in the continent, they are not a part of it, although they asked for the force to be set up, as they intended to leave Mali in the hands of an African force

patches689:


France just expanded their COIN deployment in North Africa - so they never intended on leaving

Furthermore it is plainly obvious that AFISMA is subservient to them - mere "native auxiliarys"

patches689:


What drivel

Boko Haram is not supported by AQ

Those tactics are not rare and are somewhat outdated in terms of COIN doctrine

The rest is just mindless, poor quality government propaganda

Nigeria is no where near the best army in the world by "acheivement" - because you have none

agaugust:



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Envy can give you high blood pressure. Butt Hurt

See South Africa face very weak threats, that are far inferior to Boko Haram


"A group of South African soldiers was robbed in South Sudan during a peacekeeping mission, the SA Navy said on Thursday.

"There was no loss of life, but some of their equipment was taken away from them," Captain Jaco Theunissen told Sapa.

He said the troops were on a convoy when they were ambushed on Saturday."

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2014/02/13/sa-soldiers-robbed.-in-south-sudan?filter=all_comments

Consequence of almost ZERO war experience and always sitting down in homeland, at ease

[/size]

[img]http://cdn.mg.co.za/crop/content/images/2014/08/28/banguifuneral_landscape.jpg/676x380/[/img]


[size=14pt]Meanwhile, this is Nigerian army...[/size]



[size=14pt]Who has the best army in Africa ?[/size]
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iterator25:
can someone post sandf images during battle? or at least, peacekeeping? I've not seen any since we started this thread ...
and, no training pictures please!

thanks


^{A Nigerian Army Special Forces commando leads troops out on patrol in the far northeastern frontier district of Baga
near the Lake Chad (AFP PHOTO)}

andrewza:



Then you have not been looking. At all

agaugust:



[size=14pt]
Envy can give you high blood pressure. Butt Hurt

See South Africa face very weak threats, that are far inferior to Boko Haram


"A group of South African soldiers was robbed in South Sudan during a peacekeeping mission, the SA Navy said on Thursday.

"There was no loss of life, but some of their equipment was taken away from them," Captain Jaco Theunissen told Sapa.

He said the troops were on a convoy when they were ambushed on Saturday."

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2014/02/13/sa-soldiers-robbed.-in-south-sudan?filter=all_comments

Consequence of almost ZERO war experience and always sitting down in homeland, at ease

[/size]

[img]http://cdn.mg.co.za/crop/content/images/2014/08/28/banguifuneral_landscape.jpg/676x380/[/img]


[size=14pt]Meanwhile, this is Nigerian army...[/size]



[size=14pt]Who has the best army in Africa ?[/size]
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iterator25:
post one! at least....Sandf in a battle front

iterator25:
post one! at least....Sandf in a battle front

andrewza:

Here some more
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkpop9es8VSt6kvyScd-z5U2i5GcdQWgIC1qlgKjHZ_CBJvngwftDxk9c[/img]
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPkLgNttCFSL8ohQeND8HmpidqX4AJitvx5hmNBfVLT71dCxOUxbkQDAE[/img]
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7MShq-mfDUkq6XjqIbSEnoLskKx-4o5UQ4mOeeddoJDHWHWhGp47efM8W[/img]
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjVqrZv9tIU_ubVnKf33A4b1HsLi53IKcPXbaQhO7VT2FXuJtLN23RXGgP[/img]
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROPfxRtLLlJHotHU_Y-I9Dzl_tEUYT3cikNCzJO-3M6Vr-almzxXaSEoHN[/img]
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTaLXs3X3CzZS5EQYuEFUacrniWnihXhaBidJoKun4crlJcTLKDIBj9wEw4[/img]
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNK82RHjxuKm4b3S3TMxh04dK0Dk1KydifiMpF-wOVTv3SIAv1jjyUt6YHHg[/img]
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRDdEm502QsJnD1eUFLu7tjQ-iUAhcjbIiddiSdDVgslGgZ5S3AfyLUdVjUA[/img]
[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRs6KodH9pFkvnqMeaH4tU_lFZzzHOJ5gEZ_B4DB-JCdyfhQH9OOHw19Hls-A[/img]
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfpiR97T5QFUWYfdNEsxoIV2hVIopkq-EvYt0sGjRV56TLooNUCkdZnI21[/img]
All of these are out side of SA

agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Nigerian army defeating Boko Haram as Africa's Gaint unleashes dreaded military might

Soon to set record of fastest defeat of Al-Qaeda/Taliban supported militancy in the world

Nigerian army emerging the current best army in the world by achievements

As NA destroys Boko Haram's force cohesion using rare world class tactics [/size]
.

"Boko Haram losing grip
DAVID MOLOMO, YOLA
Sunday, October 12, 2014



Boko Haram losing grip
advertisement



- Deserter reveals how leadership vacuum, internal squabble, hunger, desertion by members made Adamawa military exploit possible


Indications abound that the Nigerian troops are getting upper hand against the Boko Haram sect.


Saturday Sun authoritatively gathered that recent breakthroughs by the Nigerian troops is also informed by the demise of a prominent leader of the insurgents, after the death of Abubakar Shekau at Konduga in Borno State. It is suggested that the weakening of the sect also results from power tussle amongst those who are jostling to lead the gang. The development, which our sources said, has led to internecine squabble even among the rank and file in the Boko Haram camp.


It will be recalled that, as a result of the friction, which culminated in the fierce battle within their ranks and the death of over 30 insurgents in the process, succession palaver, is also said to have informed the new development. In the circumstances, it would seem that things have begun to fall apart with the terror group.


Coupled with all that is the apparent disenchantment by those that were forcefully recruited. For example, there were hundreds that were recruited in Michika and Madagali localities of Adamawa State. According to one of them who deserted the group recently, they were mostly natives who were used by the insurgents to identify houses of prominent figures in government in the two localities and their environs.


Some of the indigenes, who were rescued from captivity during an interaction with Saturday Sun, maintained that the recent military breakthroughs were made possible because the cohesion that once existed within the group has begun to weaken and, therefore, the centre is beginning to bottom out.


The recruited natives, who claimed that they were hypnotized by the insurgents toward assisting in dishing out vital information, took the advantage of these recent breakthroughs of the troops to escape to Mubi and Yola, the state capital.


Aliu Dauda, one of those that escaped, relayed his experience in the camp to Saturday Sun. He said that many of them that were recruited were did not join on their volition. According to him, they hypnotized, using certain liquid substances.


"Most youths in Michika were forcefully recruited to join the gang, first as subsidiary staff. Failure to do their bidding attracted lashes or being shot in the leg or confined in an underground detention camp.


"We served as informants and any attempt to give out false information will be punished severely. The fact remains that we were placed under a spell, which made it possible for us to obey them. We discovered that we were doing everything they told us without complaints.


"I thank God that I survived and now in the midst of our kinsmen who have helped us to recover from the after effect of our abduction," Dauda enthused.


Adding, he said: "Those that forcefully recruited us do not have human feelings. While we were in their midst, we could not resist whatever they told us because a liquid substance was given to us."


When asked how he was able to escape, he said that, "first and foremost, there were disagreement and disenchantment between the rank and file of the gang and our supposed leaders. Those of us that were newly recruited five months ago, had to escape when it was apparent that Nigerian troops were having an edge over the Boko Haram sect.


"At the stage we were, we weren't given arms and ammunitions but rather our assignments were to give out information and identify locations and targets for destruction. We had not graduated to that stage; those recruited in Konduga and Gwoza were our seniors in the business of killing. We that were forcefully recruited in Gulak, Madagali and Michika, were considered not mature or trained to handle weapons or take charge of ammunition."


Dauda disclosed to Saturday Sun that hunger and starvation in the camp of the gang immensely contributed to the breakthroughs recorded by the Nigerian side. "As a result of hunger and starvation, the gang allowed the newly recruited to search everywhere for food. We were given this assignment because we are familiar with the localities. We had no choice but to break into people's houses who are our kinsmen to get raw food. Besides, houses of prominent persons in Michika were taken over by the sect."


Army recovers more towns, arms and ammunition


In recent times, Nigerian troops' successes over the insurgents have reverberated, especially with the capture of two armoured tanks belonging to the sect. Apart from serious casualty figures recorded by the group, the Nigerian military has also captured a massive armoury with arms and ammunitions belonging to the fleeing terrorists.


"The large quantities of weapons recovered in the raid are still being evacuated from the scene of the night raid where several terrorists died," Major General Chris Olukolade, the defence spokesman said recently. He added: "Similar operations took place in coordination with the troops of Multinational Joint Task Force in the raids in other camps located on the outskirts of Duguri, Polkime, Malafatori and other locations around the fringes of Lake Chad."


He also revealed that substantial amounts of "money in different currencies and denominations were recovered from the camps, while a total of seven terrorists were captured in the operation."


The statement also gave an update on the foiled attack on Giwa Barrack in Maiduguri, Olukolade had said: "Troops conducting cordon and search for remnants of the daring terrorists who attacked Giwa Barracks in Maiduguri, had an encounter with some of the surviving terrorists in the general area of Kayamla and Alu Dam on the outskirts of Maiduguri this morning. More of the terrorists have been killed and arrested in the ongoing encounters.


He added that more bodies of fleeing terrorists had been discovered along the routes of their escape. Troops' morale and fighting spirit have been further boosted by the outcome of the operations so far, he said, adding that cordon-and-search as well as patrols and pursuit by air and land were continuing in the entire mission area of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa states.


http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/12/504.html

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iterator24:
are you saying all south africans living in Nigeria are formally employed? dude, be real

Henry240:


LOL, it's false because it doesn't play into your skewed narrative of your perceived truth. Typical south-african.

agaugust:


You dey mind South Africans?

Envy will k.ill them because Tanzanian army commander is still leading South African army in Congo as we speak

Nigerian military is confirmed the to be big boss as usual, so we will continue to lead Africa till infinity !!!!

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Henry120:


The Nigerian military isn't wavering in it's constitutional duty of protecting Nigerians.

If you were a little intellectually bright, you would know wars aren't video games or movies. Neither does this enemy respect the Geneva convention.

The Nigerian military and security architecture are currently the most engaged and one of the more experienced (bar Algeria, which still suffers terror attacks by the way) on this continent. So it isn't unusual to see students from across the continent including south-africa attend NDA/NDC/NWC and multiple other courses in Nigeria.

Every reasonable neighbor knows practical experience is vitally more important than some fictional war scenario.

This is why they continue to troop into Nigerian war colleges.

iterator25:
post one! at least....Sandf in a battle front

Henry120:


It is an effective bird used by multiple countries across different climatic regions. It is an effective and a very capable tank killer. It's a joy for every airforce pilot. The best part is we are getting up-to 12 MI-171SH terminator.

The Indians fly them
Russians
Chinese
Poles
Venezuelans
Algerians
Ghanaians
Algerians
Nigerians
Brazilians
Mexicans
Colombians

Et al

Henry120:


Algeria is Africa's most experienced COIN force. Next in line is Nigeria.


The article which agaugust pasted months ago stated officers from 19 different countries graduated from the course. One of the 19 countries which included south-africa.