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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:03am On Dec 09, 2014
AugustineAgain:


There are thousands of that engine happily flying around the world today. Your South African engineers were not smart enough to master it, they failed where others succeeded
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Nope, POS slav engineering did not meet our standards
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:07am On Dec 09, 2014
AugustineAgain:


How many CRAM units will you buy? How many will you have to spread around all army, navy, and air force bases, as well as different army battalions on different battle fronts? How many locations, how many CRAM guns which you won't get until year 2017 to 2020 as SANDF is broke now.

Dreamland of delusions, that's where you live dude.

SANDF budgets were increased for the next financial year

The contract was signed a long time ago and money allocated - so it will follow its timetable.

How many? We have 169 Oerlekon, and the Starstreak systems to add to that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:08am On Dec 09, 2014
Henry120:


But you signed the contracts in 1999. It means from the time you signed the contracts, you must have sent officers to train on the platform.

So, from 1999-2014, you only managed to train 8 people to fly the Gripen.

"It does get more pathetic than this.".......... by this I mean, only 12 SAAF Gripens are operational.

A true broke/ pathetic Airforce.

All units operational

14 in the Air at any one time

18 Aircrew, 14 Grip pilots, 54 Hawk pilots

18000 Air-Hours in the last financial year.

These are facts. If you wish to give us your own figures I recommend you come with citations.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:10am On Dec 09, 2014
Henry120:


The variant you fly is old. It is a 4th Gen Aircraft, infact going by the comparison with the JF-17, it should be rated as 3.7 gen.

The E/F is 4.5, not 5 Gen. Only the F-22, F-35 and T-50 are 5th Gen.

Why?

What superior avionics does the Junk Fighter have?

Please, I really wanna hear this
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:11am On Dec 09, 2014
AugustineAgain:


No, you tell us how many of your 30 year old Oerlikon twin barrel guns are being upgraded to CRAM.

SANDF is so poor each Gripen jet carries less than one missile each, precisely 0.96 missile per jet, and your Valour frigates Excoet missile shortage is also bad.

Do you know the meaning of missile poverty? Ask SAAF and SAN
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Go read SIPRI - it clearly says, IRIS-T aquired as short term solution until A-Darter enters service

Production starts next year, then our supply will be unlimited

We plan for the future.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:13am On Dec 09, 2014
Henry120:


SAAF JAS-39D
(click to view full)
In 1999, South Africa became the Saab JAS-39 Gripen‘s 1st export customer, ordering 26 fighters.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/


Actually, I was correct.

15 years
26 planes
8 pilots to show


Embarrassing grin grin

posting outdated information

14 pilots, 18 aircrew, 54 hawk pilots, 18 000 hours
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:46am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
That's because the impala was a trainer aircraft similar to the Hawk, but had a secondary light attack role.

The impalas were also used like attack helicopters, and were a nightmare of enemy helicopter pilots.

South Africa had 250 fighter aircraft during the war.

One Gripen will waste the enitre Nigerian air force in one day.

If I didn't raise the Impala jet issue you would have deceived us that SAAF had 250 fantastic jets during Angolan war. Fraudster, you think Nigerians are unlearned people like your fellow Soweto lazy men koeldrank drinkers who don't work and don't go to school while ANC government feeds their parasite mouths daily?

Anyway SAAF Gripens have only 25 missiles, NAF F-7 jets over 100 missiles, then add JF-17 missiles incoming.

We know NAF is getting total air superiority over SAAF after Christmas, enjoy your newly dropped air power rankings cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:06am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Delta wing shape.

Pappy Jascoco cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:10am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The contract is already signed meaning work is in progress. Similar to the Badger IFV.

This projects are fund.

Go figure how many Oerlikon twin barrel guns South Africa has.


You have mostly very very old versions of Oerlikon, only few are a bit modern, you wanna put CRAM on obsolete guns?

Tell us how many of the few good ones will be CRAM configured, we need numbers, though the current cash trouble of SANDF may still afford about 4 units of guns by 2017-2020
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:11am On Dec 09, 2014
Henry120:


But you signed the contracts in 1999. It means from the time you signed the contracts, you must have sent officers to train on the platform.

So, from 1999-2014, you only managed to train 8 people to fly the Gripen.

"It does get more pathetic than this.".......... by this I mean, only 12 SAAF Gripens are operational.

A true broke/ pathetic Airforce.

SANDF-SAAF is becoming poor like a church rat now o !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:16am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Missiles operational with the SANDF. 1. Ingwe ATGM 2. Milan ATGM 3. Exocet AsM 4. Mongoose missile. 5. IRIS-T SRAAM

Nigeria: 0

You have none!!! NO MISSILES!!

Mongoose is not a 'missile' really, it's an anti-missile projectile and NOT yet operational NOT in service, it's another Mokopa scandal cheesy cheesy

NAF, NA, NN have SEVEN different types of missiles .

1. Swingfire
2. Atoll
3. PL-9C
4. Otomat
5. Roland
6. SA-7
7. Blowpipe.

Get it?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:18am On Dec 09, 2014
ActivateKruger:


Most of the SAAF fighters were Mirages III and F1s.... they shot down the MiG 21, you probably know that by now.


Shot down MiG-21 with Mirage F-1 and you boast? Lol.

Why did your Mirage F-1 not shoot down MiG-23 in the same war?

SAAF cowards, using jets to chase helicopters, avoiding Cuban teenage pilots of MiG-23 cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:20am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The Olifant and Centurion don't have the same engine.

Lack of information displayed again.

Show us proof that every Olifant tank has a different engine from the Centurion
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:21am On Dec 09, 2014
Henry120:


SAAF JAS-39D
(click to view full)
In 1999, South Africa became the Saab JAS-39 Gripen‘s 1st export customer, ordering 26 fighters.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/


Actually, I was correct.

15 years
26 planes
8 pilots to show


Embarrassing grin grin

Bwahahahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22am On Dec 09, 2014
jln115:

i posted sources before that clearly states that Gripen c/d are 4.5gen and sources have been posted previously that gripen ng/,e/f will be the first 6thgen aircraft

Now you have gone absolutely I.N.S.A.NE cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:24am On Dec 09, 2014
ActivateKruger:
Behold : The mighty Gripen showing off her weapons

Gripen showing off it's almost 20 year old obsolescent technology


Your mates are buying 2012-2014 modern jets....Mumu cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:34am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The missile will first be operational on the Gripens.
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Then when funds become available[/size] it will be integrated on the Hawk.

Can you comprehend?
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Yes, we comprehend that you now admit SANDF is seriously cash broke ![/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:35am On Dec 09, 2014
MikeCZAR:
what was the kill ratio Heruburubu?

South African Gripens are slightly different from others.

Yes only South African Gripens have less than one missile each. Guinness Book Of World Records missile shortage cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:39am On Dec 09, 2014
jln115:

Applications which allow cuing of weapon systems are referred to as helmet-mounted sight and display (HMSD) or helmet-mounted sights (HMS)" dus targeting of weapn systems not displaying of flight data

HMSD=HMS just two different names for the same thing thats way in the sentence they use
or meaning it can be called both.

Learn to read! Please!


If HMS/D does not Display data, what does the 'D' stand for, Donuts ?

Better go enroll for Adult education classes nearest to your house
cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:46am On Dec 09, 2014
jln115:


Yes i did say i think the JF-17 is a good fighter for a cheap price that suit NAFs need , but its not in the same class as the gripen in terms of capability Gripen=Merc JF-17=toyota both good fighters but thats way the gripen is more expensive because you get more features for your money! but hey maby NAF will buy the gripen one day if the need arises.

I posted source of why JF-17 is cheap, free technology of J-10 engineering works given to Pakistan almost for free, the whole R & D cost was as low as $500 million !

Gripen costs Billions of dollars R & D.....and also Europeans over-price their products, like the Volvo cost more than Toyota but Toyoto is far more reliable and better all round specs/performance.

SAAF bought over-priced Gripen, thanks to the millions of dollars bribe payed to ANC politicians by SAAB Sweden.

A jet that sells by bribery and corruption must be over-priced and not worth the money !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:47am On Dec 09, 2014
jln115:


By that time our defence review will be fully integrated, mayby then we can upgrade our gripens to e/f stan


[size=16pt]Now you admit SAAF Gripens are obsolete 20 year old technology and needs upgrade !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:50am On Dec 09, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi:

A porous Security Establishment is all South Africa has! No more ... no less! Evidence below.

cool cool cool

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http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/over-7000-guns-reported-stolen-1.1791331#.VIYNUcanq4Q


One day I will s.teal Zuma's daughters cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:51am On Dec 09, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi:
They insult and talk down on Chinese military-tech and socio-economic achievements ... yet these loud mouth South Africans are tightly held in the jugular by the same Chinese people!

========================================
http://mg.co.za/article/2014-12-04-the-age-of-mandarin-is-upon-us


[size=16pt]So China rules South Africa ! Chai ! Okoko-bioko cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52am On Dec 09, 2014
rka1:
http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/150158/nigeria-to-buy-russian-fighter-jets

Thanks big bros ! Allow me to flash your story with a magnifying glass soon oga mi !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:54am On Dec 09, 2014
Patchesagain:


Nope, POS slav engineering did not meet our standards

Nope, your SA engineers did not meet manufacturer's standards of the engine they needed to engineer
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:08am On Dec 09, 2014
mzilakazi:


Junk Fighter =Scorpion jets. Bwahahahaha.... Anyway I knew that the SU-30s are not for the faint hearted.


ActivateKruger:


There was never a Su-30 on Nigerian soil....



mzilakazi:


You never had SU30s at the first place. Bwahahahaha...



ActivateKruger:


so much for the Su-30..


ActivateKruger:


We would be having a worthwhile debate if you had purchased the Su-30 but its the Junk Fighter not even the Chinese want.




[size=25pt] Nigeria To Buy Russian Jet Fighters !

NAF to become Africa's Most Powerful Air Force !

http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/150158/nigeria-to-buy-russian-fighter-jets

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:17am On Dec 09, 2014
agaugust:


Thanks big bros ! Allow me to flash your story with a magnifying glass soon oga mi !
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Na wah oh bros! E be like say we go soon rival Algeria O! no be small.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:28am On Dec 09, 2014
rka1:


Na wah oh bros! E be like say we go soon rival Algeria O! no be small.

I think President Jonathan is sending warning signals to Chad, Cameroon, South Africa, France.

Nigerian air force will beat Algeria soon, we have more combat helicopters and much better ISTAR aircraft, we also have 10 times more combat experience ! Even Egypt will fear Nigeria soon.

Watch NAF 2015 emerging great beyond your wildest imaginations !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 3:36am On Dec 09, 2014
agaugust:














[size=25pt] Nigeria To Buy Russian Jet Fighters !

NAF to become Africa's Most Powerful Air Force !

http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/150158/nigeria-to-buy-russian-fighter-jets

[/size]
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Soo Nigeria is going to buy F-35s made in Russia huh!?

Wow well done!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:39am On Dec 09, 2014
Centrifude:

Soo Nigeria is going to buy F-35s made in Russia huh!?

Wow well done!

It's just a file photo of "fighters". Unfortunately, a lot of journalists can't tell the difference between fighters not to talk of country of origin.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:42am On Dec 09, 2014
agaugust:


I think President Jonathan is sending warning signals to Chad, Cameroon, South Africa, France.

Nigerian air force will beat Algeria soon, we have more combat helicopters and much better ISTAR aircraft, we also have 10 times more combat experience ! Even Egypt will fear Nigeria soon.

Watch NAF 2015 emerging great beyond your wildest imaginations !
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I think at last we are putting down a marker. As you have said, just watch us go in 2015. It will probably start with refurbished aircraft short term with brand spanking new aircraft following later.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:48am On Dec 09, 2014
jf17s and su-30s... finally!, someone has been reading beegeagle's blog. .

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