overhypedsteve:
thats just as truthful as the story of the 5000 Nigerian soldiers rumoured to have fought in the angolan war
mind you, this was written by a prominent jounalist robert moss. http://www.rhodesia.nl/moss4.htm so you ll have a lot of things to believe if you will have me believe that your yeye theory.

Lies are Lies and truth shall always prevail.

Msauza:




Bwahahahahahahaja!!!! Since when did weapon suppliers become mercenaries? Chief you lost it.

ignorant enugu bastarrd. what do you know about the military than to come and troll here.

PGI 225.7401 Contracts requiring performance or delivery in a foreign country.

If the acquisition requires the performance of services or delivery of supplies in an area outside the United States, the contracting officer shall;

1)Follow [specific guidance for the
combatant command in whose area the
contractor will be performing services or
delivering supplies. This guidance is
contained on the respective combatant
commander’s operational contract support webpage which is linked to the procedures at http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/pacc/cc/
areas_of_responsibility.html, at the weblink for the combatant command for the area in
which the contractor will be performing
services or delivering items. These pages list
prevailing regulations, policies, requirements,
host nation laws, orders/fragmentary orders,
combatant commander’s directives, unique clauses, and other considerations necessary
for soliciting and awarding a contract for
performance in, or delivery of items to, that
combatant commander’s area of
responsibility;
www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/dars/pgi/pgi_htm/PGI225_74.htm

bloody ignoramus. keep making a fool of your exiled father.

Msauza:


I am using iPhone 6 and is quite better in zooming capabilities. Just zoom that board next to the filling station and don't zoom useless car registrations which could be from Naijas neighbours.

are you sure you weren't dropped when you were a baby?

your reasoning is too dumb.

saengine:


Would be interesting to get a list of what equipment Nigeria is getting "training" on. Wont hold my breath though

yeah right. ask and it shall be given yea? you think i'm a south african (stup1d)?

stillchris:


are you sure you weren't dropped when you were a baby?

your reasoning is too dumb.

You are really troubled by these news which were revealed by Maiduguri citizens in Borno who were fair enough to agree that was Maiduguri.

So, believe what you want to believe and I will believe that those are SA mercenaries.

stillchris:


ignorant enugu bastarrd. what do you know about the military than to come and troll here.

PGI 225.7401 Contracts requiring performance or delivery in a foreign country.

If the acquisition requires the performance of services or delivery of supplies in an area outside the United States, the contracting officer shall;

1)Follow [specific guidance for the
combatant command in whose area the
contractor will be performing services or
delivering supplies. This guidance is
contained on the respective combatant
commander’s operational contract support webpage which is linked to the procedures at http://www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/pacc/cc/
areas_of_responsibility.html, at the weblink for the combatant command for the area in
which the contractor will be performing
services or delivering items. These pages list
prevailing regulations, policies, requirements,
host nation laws, orders/fragmentary orders,
combatant commander’s directives, unique clauses, and other considerations necessary
for soliciting and awarding a contract for
performance in, or delivery of items to, that
combatant commander’s area of
responsibility;
www.acq.osd.mil/dpap/dars/pgi/pgi_htm/PGI225_74.htm

bloody ignoramus. keep making a fool of your exiled father.

You are just deceing yourself. There is no any arms supplier in the world who can go to the level of even patrolling with big guns in the streets. Surely, you are the one who dropped his head first when you were being delivered.

Msauza:


You are really troubled by these news which were revealed by Maiduguri citizens in Borno who were fair enough to agree that was Maiduguri.

So, believe what you want to believe and I will believe that those are SA mercenaries.

why not. since your own reasoning has failed you.

just kindly redeem yourself by proving those pics are in Nigeria. since you are using china phone iphone6.

Msauza:


You are just deceing yourself. There is no any arms supplier in the world who can go to the level of even patrolling with big guns in the streets. Surely, you are the one who dropped his head first when you were being delivered.

prove those pics are in Nigeria. simple task. o yeah... the only proof they are not has been assumed that our neighbors now issue their vehicle registrations on Nigerian soil.

seriously, go ask your mum if she dropped you when you were a baby. your thinking is not proper for a normal person.

stillchris:


why not. since your own reasoning has failed you.

just kindly redeem yourself by proving those pics are in Nigeria. since you are using china phone iphone6.

My reasoning has never failed me dummy. I stand by my words SA mercenaries are in Maiduguri.

Finish and Klaar.

Henry120:


Your troops routed in the CAR wish they had these structures.


From liberia-ivory coast - Chad - guinea and mali. Nigeria has and continues to deploy it's Airforce and structures in hostile Airspaces.

In Mali, Nigeria deployed it's largest Air and ground maintenance crew yet.

We deployed : 2 C-130's
1 G-222
1 Elint compliant ATR-42 surveillance plane.
4 Alpha jets
2 MI-35 attack Helicopters
1 D0-228.

South-Africa has and would never be able to deploy this quantity of assets. It was a tug of war with the U.N before your Half-french Helicopters could be deployed to the DRC.

Which one of those airspaces was a contested one?

Just wondering

stillchris:


prove those pics are in Nigeria. simple task. o yeah... the only proof they are not has been assumed that our neighbors now issue their vehicle registrations on Nigerian soil.

seriously, go ask your mum if she dropped you when you were a baby. your thinking is not proper for a normal person.

You have never been to Maiduguri, so shut your mouth up.

Msauza:


My reasoning has never failed me dummy. I stand by my words SA mercenaries are in Maiduguri.

Finish and Klaar.

yes i know. by just your words. no concrete evidence.

did you say your reasoning has never failed you?

Msauza:


You have never been to Maiduguri, so shut your mouth up.

wow.. do i need to be in maiduguri to recognize a Nigerian vehicle registration?

dude. your mum definitely dropped you for sure. can't say how many times though. but from the look of things, it must be uncountable.

Henry120:


Nigeria : C-130 (7 operational)

South-Africa : C-130 (3 Operational)

Nigeria : G-222 (6 operational)

South-Africa : Dougas C-47TP (obsolete)

Nigeria : Donier D0-228 (8 operational)

South-Africa : None

Nigeria. : Boeing 737 ( 2 operational)

South-Africa : none

Nigeria : None

South-Africa : cesna 208 (8 obsolete transport planes)


Nigeria: Beechraft super-king (7 operational)

South-Africa : Beechraft super-king (4 in service).

Nigeria : C-130 (7 operational)

You only have 5 in total

Which means that, if you are following proper maintenance regimes, 2 will be on full time operation and perphase 3 airworthy for a short term "surge"

We have 9 in total, 4 being rotated through maintenance, 3 in the air 24/7 and 2 awaiting repair or maintenance.

Nigeria : G-222 (6 operational)

And how many airworthy at any one time?

1/3 rule of thumb means only 2

And our Dakota's may be old airframes, but they have modern engines and avionics, and can still perform transport roles. we have 10

Nigeria : Donier D0-228 (8 operational)

No - you have 6

and you forgot our 4 CASA's

South-Africa : cesna 208 (8 obsolete transport planes)

We have 9, some upgraded with state of the art IR observation equipment.

What makes them obsolete? Can they still sling loads or not?

Nigeria: Beechraft super-king (7 operational)

[citation needed]

So - even with your massively inflated figures - you dont have our airlift, let alone your ludicrous claims of "3 times the airlift"

So here is the tally:

South Africa -
Medium Lift: 9
Transport: 14
Light transport: 15
Total - 38

Nigeria -
Airliner: 1
Medium Lift: 10
Transport: 9
Total - 20

Ouch, thats gotta sting

Patchesagain:


South Africa is the only one between the two that has Fought in air-to-air combat

And in terms of training, Nigeria is not even in the same sport, let alone competing

The war in Angola

Patchesagain:


Which one of those airspaces was a contested one?

Just wondering

[size=16pt]

How Tiny Cuba Totally Defeated South Africa In Contested Airspace

Last time I checked war history, South African air has NEVER WON A BATTLE in a contested airspace in modern war history, SAAF lost air superiority to Cuba's teenage air force.

South African air force Mirage jets withdrew from air to air contest when Cuban MiG-23 jets arrived.

You can boast about your air losses, it's allowed, like the Seleka debacle.

"Some Cuban sources credit the MiG-23 with winning the war in Angola and forcing South Africa to democratize. According to this the final touch to the war happened in June 1988. After their defeat at Cuito Cuanavale the South Africans retired to Namibia. The MiG-23 totally conquered the air and the Mirage F-1 of the SAAF, routed and impotent to reconquer the air without disastrous losses, abandoned the war and left the air to the MiG-23 to pound their army with impunity.

Cubans encountered a wall written on in Afrikaans by the South Africans with an elegant phrase: "MIK23 sak van die kart." They translated it as "The MiG-23 broke our heart."

Cuba advertised its ability to continue its advance into Namibia, but it was too much for South Africa which on 27 June signaled hastily to US mediator Chester Crocker and requested a ceasefire and negotiations, which ended with a peace treaty under which South Africa abandoned Angola and Namibia."

http://www.laahs.com/content/12-The-Cuban-MiGs/view/6

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agaugust:


[size=16pt]

How Tiny Cuba Totally Defeated South Africa In Contested Airspace

Last time I checked war history, South African air has NEVER WON A BATTLE in a contested airspace in modern war history, SAAF lost air superiority to Cuba's teenage air force.

South African air force Mirage jets withdrew from air to air contest when Cuban MiG-23 jets arrived.

You can boast about your air losses, it's allowed, like the Seleka debacle.

"Some Cuban sources credit the MiG-23 with winning the war in Angola and forcing South Africa to democratize. According to this the final touch to the war happened in June 1988. After their defeat at Cuito Cuanavale the South Africans retired to Namibia. The MiG-23 totally conquered the air and the Mirage F-1 of the SAAF, routed and impotent to reconquer the air without disastrous losses, abandoned the war and left the air to the MiG-23 to pound their army with impunity.

Cubans encountered a wall written on in Afrikaans by the South Africans with an elegant phrase: "MIK23 sak van die kart." They translated it as "The MiG-23 broke our heart."

Cuba advertised its ability to continue its advance into Namibia, but it was too much for South Africa which on 27 June signaled hastily to US mediator Chester Crocker and requested a ceasefire and negotiations, which ended with a peace treaty under which South Africa abandoned Angola and Namibia."

http://www.laahs.com/content/12-The-Cuban-MiGs/view/6

[/size]

Problem is we won quito, not to mention that the Cubans accepted OUR terms in the end - same terms we had demanded since 1970's.

Also, you say they chased us out of their airspace... then why do they celebrate no air-to-air kills? We celebrate two

This shows the bias of the artical

Thus: Into the trash it goes

(Pic related: indisputable proof from the gun-cams of SAAF mirages. Two 100% undeniable Mig Kills)

Patchesagain:


Problem is we won quito, not to mention that the Cubans accepted OUR terms in the end - same terms we had demanded since 1970's.

Also, you say they chased us out of their airspace... then why do they celebrate no air-to-air kills? We celebrate two

This shows the bias of the artical

Thus: Into the trash it goes

Cuban air force broke the heart of South Africans after breaking the backbone of your air force.

The only time SAAF engaged in modern air war, SAAF was roundly and squarely defeated by inexperienced Cuba

CASE CLOSED
.

agaugust:


Cuban air force broke the heart of South Africans after breaking the backbone of your air force.

The only time SAAF engaged in modern air war, SAAF was roundly and squarely defeated by inexperienced Cuba

CASE CLOSED
.

It would be great if you could provide solid proof and stop posting opinion peices.

Show us Cuban air-to-air kills!!

Also, how did they chase us out? In the last year of the war:

Mirage F-1AZs flew 683 sorties and dropped more than 3 000 bombs on enemy targets, while Buccaneers carried out 99 sorties, dropping approximately 700 bombs

agaugust:




[size=16pt]

How Tiny Cuba Totally Defeated South Africa In Contested Airspace

Last time I checked war history, South African air has NEVER WON A BATTLE in a contested airspace in modern war history, SAAF lost air superiority to Cuba's teenage air force.

South African air force Mirage jets withdrew from air to air contest when Cuban MiG-23 jets arrived.

You can boast about your air losses, it's allowed, like the Seleka debacle.

"Some Cuban sources credit the MiG-23 with winning the war in Angola and forcing South Africa to democratize. According to this the final touch to the war happened in June 1988. After their defeat at Cuito Cuanavale the South Africans retired to Namibia. The MiG-23 totally conquered the air and the Mirage F-1 of the SAAF, routed and impotent to reconquer the air without disastrous losses, abandoned the war and left the air to the MiG-23 to pound their army with impunity.

Cubans encountered a wall written on in Afrikaans by the South Africans with an elegant phrase: "MIK23 sak van die kart." They translated it as "The MiG-23 broke our heart."

Cuba advertised its ability to continue its advance into Namibia, but it was too much for South Africa which on 27 June signaled hastily to US mediator Chester Crocker and requested a ceasefire and negotiations, which ended with a peace treaty under which South Africa abandoned Angola and Namibia."

http://www.laahs.com/content/12-The-Cuban-MiGs/view/6

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[size=16] NO COUNTRY IN AFRICA CAN SUSTAIN WAR FOR OVER 25 YEARS WHILE UNDER SERIOUS ARMS EMBARGO FIGHTING THE ENEMY THAT GOT CONSTANT ARMS SUPPLY FROM RUSSIA. CUBA STILL FAILED TO DEFEAT SA UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.

NIGERIA FAILED TO DEFEAT BH WITH WEAPONS THAT THEY HAD AT THE TIME, THEY HAD TO RUN ALL OVER THE WORLD ACQUIRING WEAPONS TO FIGHT JUST A RAG TAG ISLAMIC MILITANTS. CUBAN WARPLANES WERE FLOWN BY RUSSIAN PILOTS AS IT COULD BE PROVEN MANY A TIMES HERE.

SA DEFEATED RUSSIA, CUBA, ANGOLA AND GROUP OF REBELS FIGHTING WITHOUT ACQUIRING WEAPONS ABROAD BUT MERELY MANUFACTURING HER OWN WEAPONS LOCALLY.

NIGERIA CAN NEVER ACHIEVE THAT.[/size]

lezz:
you know nothing, patches.

Just like you guys claim evarn and I are one and the same.

When will this desperation end, Clerk?

the story of these saffers is like that of an albino peacock that mistakes itself for a ferret.
They believe themselves wise,but they are the big f00ls with gaping anus.

jln115:

When did someone claim that?

are you denying it?,trouble in paradise?

jln115:

South Africa
C130 all 9 (operational) will be reaplced in next 2-3 years, according to 2015 budget speech.
Douglas c-47tp 7 (operational), i agree that they are obsolete,but according to the budget speech 2015 ,they will be replaced in the next 2-3 years.
CASA C-212 Aviocar 4 (operational)will be replaced in the next 2-3 years according to 2015 budget speech.
Pilatus pc12 1 (operational)
Cessna 208 10 (operational) dont know why you say they are obsolete, they are perfect little planes for the African bush!
Beechraft super-king 4 (operational)

SAAF combat aircraft fleet(includes Hawk jet)= 50
NAF combat aircraft fleet(includes alpha jet) = 25

SAAF trainer Fleet = 53
NAF trainer fleet = 44

SAAF helicopter fleet= 90
NAF helicopter fleet = 54

South-Africa has only 3 Operational C-130s. You are replacing nothing as you have no money. The SANDF is broke.


Over 50 years old transport planes, of course they are obsolete.

Your CASAs are also obsolete, again, you have no money for aviation fuel, how could you possibly afford new planes?

How many troops can a Cessna turboprop possible carry? You also do not have up to 10.


Need I remind you that we're talking about Transport planes, not fighter jets.

While the SAAF only has a whole lot of obsolete flying cans, Nigeria fields a proper Airforce.

NAF C-130 fleet : NAF 913
NAF 914
NAF 915
NAF. 916
NAF 917
NAF 918

Including 2 recently added Transport planes, another C-130 and a G-222

Henry120:


South-Africa has only 3 Operational C-130s. You are replacing nothing as you have no money. The SANDF is broke.


Over 50 years old transport planes, of course they are obsolete.

Your CASAs are also obsolete, again, you have no money for aviation fuel, how could you possibly afford new planes?

How many troops can a Cessna turboprop possible carry? You also do not have up to 10.


Need I remind you that we're talking about Transport planes, not fighter jets.

While the SAAF only has a whole lot of obsolete flying cans, Nigeria fields a proper Airforce.

NAF C-130 fleet : NAF 913
NAF 914
NAF 915
NAF. 916
NAF 917
NAF 918

Including 2 recently added Transport planes, another C-130 and a G-222

No source, Nothing.

Patchesagain:


Nigeria : C-130 (7 operational)

You only have 5 in total

Which means that, if you are following proper maintenance regimes, 2 will be on full time operation and perphase 3 airworthy for a short term "surge"

We have 9 in total, 4 being rotated through maintenance, 3 in the air 24/7 and 2 awaiting repair or maintenance.

Nigeria : G-222 (6 operational)

And how many airworthy at any one time?

1/3 rule of thumb means only 2

And our Dakota's may be old airframes, but they have modern engines and avionics, and can still perform transport roles. we have 10

Nigeria : Donier D0-228 (8 operational)

No - you have 6

and you forgot our 4 CASA's

South-Africa : cesna 208 (8 obsolete transport planes)

We have 9, some upgraded with state of the art IR observation equipment.

What makes them obsolete? Can they still sling loads or not?

Nigeria: Beechraft super-king (7 operational)

[citation needed]

So - even with your massively inflated figures - you dont have our airlift, let alone your ludicrous claims of "3 times the airlift"

So here is the tally:

South Africa -
Medium Lift: 9
Transport: 14
Light transport: 15
Total - 38

Nigeria -
Airliner: 1
Medium Lift: 10
Transport: 9
Total - 20

Ouch, thats gotta sting

Nothing new here, already dealt with this.

SAAF only has 3 operational C-130's.

NAF has 7 operational C-130's from a fleet of 9.

NAF

Heavy lift : 9
Medium lift : 6
Light transport : 15
Transport total : 30

SAAF
Heavy lift: 3
Medium lift:4
Light transport:15
Transport total: 22

*douglas CT, obsolete.

Henry120:


Nothing new here, already dealt with this.

SAAF only has 3 operational C-130's.

NAF has 7 operational C-130's from a fleet of 9.

NAF

Heavy lift : 9
Medium lift : 6
Light transport : 15
Transport total : 30

SAAF
Heavy lift: 3
Medium lift:4
Light transport:15
Transport total: 22

*douglas CT, obsolete.

I gave you a source from SAAF to prove that SAAF has 9 upgraded C130 in service but you would read it because you always want to believe your imaginations. Unlike you who just claim to have billions and trillions without giving a source.

SAAF

Total Aircraft: 209
Fighters/Interceptors: 17
Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 17
Transport Aircraft: 106
Trainer Aircraft: 67
Helicopters: 96
Attack Helicopters: 12


NAF

Total Aircraft: 98
Fighters/Interceptors: 10
Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 10
Transport Aircraft: 42
Trainer Aircraft: 35
Helicopters: 38
Attack Helicopters: 9


We have more fleet than you dummy.

Henry120:


South-Africa has only 3 Operational C-130s. You are replacing nothing as you have no money. The SANDF is broke.


Over 50 years old transport planes, of course they are obsolete.

Your CASAs are also obsolete, again, you have no money for aviation fuel, how could you possibly afford new planes?

How many troops can a Cessna turboprop possible carry? You also do not have up to 10.


Need I remind you that we're talking about Transport planes, not fighter jets.

While the SAAF only has a whole lot of obsolete flying cans, Nigeria fields a proper Airforce.

NAF C-130 fleet : NAF 913
NAF 914
NAF 915
NAF. 916
NAF 917
NAF 918

Including 2 recently added Transport planes, another C-130 and a G-222

No, we have 3 C-130's conducting operations at any one time, with 9 in service

With regards to the Dakota's

1. they are not from the 1950's - they have had engine changes, avionics changes and airframe adaptions (they are longer)
2. As transports, they are not obsolete - since their role is to TRANSPORT

Again, South Africa has 10 more transports than Nigeria

Henry120:


Nothing new here, already dealt with this.

SAAF only has 3 operational C-130's.

NAF has 7 operational C-130's from a fleet of 9.

NAF

Heavy lift : 9
Medium lift : 6
Light transport : 15
Transport total : 30

SAAF
Heavy lift: 3
Medium lift:4
Light transport:15
Transport total: 22

*douglas CT, obsolete.

Henry, you filthy liar

You only have 5 C130's in service. And in service does not mean airworthy - give us proof all 5 are airworthy

We have 9 in service, 3 operational at any one time with the remainder in maintenance and 2 awaiting repair

Not to mention that every single NAF figure you put forward is INFLATED

South Africa -
Medium Lift: 9
Transport: 14
Light transport: 15
Total - 38

Nigeria -
Airliner: 1
Medium Lift: 10
Transport: 9
Total - 20

The above figures are factual, post your wonderland figures all you want. Facts are facts.

Henry120:



NAF has 7 operational C-130's from a fleet of 9.

The Nigerian Air Force will soon take delivery of a refurbished C-130H-30 Hercules transport aircraft after a two and a half year rebuild by specialist company Marshall Aerospace in the United Kingdom.

The Nigerian Air Force aims to refurbish five of its eight surviving C-130Hs. The Nigerian C-130 fleet is more than three decades old and by 2009 only one example was still flying while the others were sitting in obvious disrepair idly at Ikeja Air Base with less than 5,000 flying hours.

After more than a year of major repairs and maintenance, the U.S. Air Force helped return the first of five Nigerian C-130s to operational service on January 21, 2011. The aircraft went through an extensive process called Programmed Depot Maintenance (PDM) in a Lockheed Martin depot in Lisbon, Portugal.

In September 2013 the Nigerian Air Force received another refurbished C-130. This time it was refurbished with the assistance of French aviation company Sabena Technics.
http://www.c-130.net/c-130-news-article134.html

You only have 3 airworthy C-130's in total - which means that you can put a maximum of 2 in the air at any one time

By comparison, SAAF has 5 of 9 C-130's operational with the remaining 4 in various stages of maintenance, repair and re-fit

The South African Air Force is operating five of its nine Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules transport aircraft, as the others are either being serviced or are awaiting inspections.

“What’s confusing is we average about three aircraft per day. I think that’s what’s causing the stories because there are only three aircraft flying. Out of the nine that we’ve got, there are three that are waiting for servicing and one at a time are waiting for inspections. So we’re operating five aircraft of the fleet at a time,” Pretorius said.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30177:five-of-nine-saaf-hercules-serviceable&catid=111:sa-defence

There you have it, we have more in service and more operational

Deal with it

patches689:



You trained him how to fly because he wasnt allowed into SAAF

That is all

That's enough to prove we saved you and own you big time .

SAAF deputy chief of staff trained by giant Nigeria
.

agaugust:


That's enough to prove we saved you and own you big time .

SAAF deputy chief of staff trained by giant Nigeria :O:O
.

You trained him how to fly an unarmed single prop aircraft?

And that means you own us how? That changed what exactly?

You nigerians, you think a fart in an outhouse is a hurricane.