saengine:
MYTH OF 9 SAAF GRIPEN PILOTS SMASHED - PART 2


Pic 1 - Blokkies "Cobra" Joubert. Test and operational pilot

Pic 2 - Another Gripen pilot. Did a solo display at AAD 2014.


That is a total of 15 Gripen pilots purely from pics

Ball is now in Nigeria's court. Show us (with proof) which of these pilots no longer fly for the SAAF. You were brave enough to say 18 aircrew = 9 pilots. So be brave again, show us which of these pilots no longer fly, giving you a total of 9 pilots.

Nutuk:
[img]http://kokpit.aero//image/data/P1120961.JPG[/img]

And to answer on the discussion whether these are Nigerian students I cannot really confirm but I know that Nigerian military students are trained in Turkey and the uniforms they are wearing are Turkish cadet uniforms. So it is impossibile to tell from uniform whether they are Nigerian of Somali, but they do not look like Ethiopians and Somalians to me (again I am not sure)

FighterPilot:


But those have nothing to do with Nigeria sir. They are rather Somalis.

lezz:
[ote author=jln115 post=35014262]
We didnty to build Santon we actually built it ,just like we build Johannesburg, Pretoria, Cape Town, Bloemfontein, PE, Centurion ect ect all of these Cities are 100X better than any City in Nigeria!

Another fact is that there are way way way more people living in poverty and in slums in Nigeria than in SA, Also Khayelitsha is not the second largest slum in the world, although it might be one of the largest it also has electricity and running water supplied to ALL its residents...Free of charge of course !

you entertain me real good. What do you mean by "we"? Zulu please, Europeans mapped out and built those cities you mentioned way back when your lots were running around Bantu mountains half unclad with long spears and broken teeth caught in primitive facial smirks.


Fast forward to 2015 and all your European cities are turning into broken sites like Chicago. Jo Burg is a shadow of its past as whites flee into its suburb of Sandton, away from barbaric Zulus
Of the 80% of blacks in South africa's roughly 50 million only 15% made it out in the middle class.

Nigga, do i need to remind you S.A is the world's most unequal country?

Fvcking sewer pipe.

agaugust:


Cadet walking alone looks Somali-Ethiopian. Cadet standing with colleague, the one on left hand is too huge to be Somali, more like a West African.

Nobody knows.

jln115:

T

urning into Chicago? We are spending more on infrastructure than any other country in Africa, we

and after 24 years of infrastructural development in Soweto giant rats still eat human babies for breakfast.

are ranked 32 in the world regarding infrastructure, which is higher than any of the other BRICS nations

south Africa is the briquette in BRIC BTW.

And calling me a Zulu the whole time isn't going to change the fact that I'm a white Afrikaner!!

Nutuk:
[img]http://kokpit.aero//image/data/P1120961.JPG[/img]

And to answer on the discussion whether these are Nigerian students I cannot really confirm but I know that Nigerian military students are trained in Turkey and the uniforms they are wearing are Turkish cadet uniforms. So it is impossibile to tell from uniform whether they are Nigerian of Somali, but they do not look like Ethiopians and Somalians to me (again I am not sure)

agaugust:


I have always told people not to ignore the good maneuverability of the JF-17, it is one of it's advantages over the Gripen in dog fight.

The JF-17 behaves like a guided missile in the air !

lezz:
your IQ is Zulu grade.

lezz:
your IQ is Zulu grade.

saengine:
I've been lazy to do this....but I have time on my hands today.

MYTH OF 9 SAAF GRIPEN PILOTS SMASHED


Pic 1 - Gripen pilots who took part in Presidential Inauguration flypast 2009. Pic by SAAF photographer Christo Crous titled "2 Squadron Gripen pilots". Taken from his facebook page.

Pics 2,3,4 - More Gripen pilots who ALL took part in Exercise Lion Effort 2012

Nutuk:
[img]http://kokpit.aero//image/data/P1120961.JPG[/img]

And to answer on the discussion whether these are Nigerian students I cannot really confirm but I know that Nigerian military students are trained in Turkey and the uniforms they are wearing are Turkish cadet uniforms. So it is impossibile to tell from uniform whether they are Nigerian of Somali, but they do not look like Ethiopians and Somalians to me (again I am not sure)

jln115:

And by Zulu grade you mean 130+.

jln115:

Turning into Chicago? We are spending more on infrastructure than any other country in Africa, we are ranked 32 in the world regarding infrastructure, which is higher than any of the other BRICS nations BTW.

And calling me a Zulu the whole time isn't going to change the fact that I'm a white Afrikaner!!

DictatorZAR:


I guess Zulu grade remains higher than Igbo sh@iiting on your brain grade

Henry120:


Your numbers still do not add up. There is no evidence you have above 9 Qualified Gripen Pilots. Of that number, which of them are navigators, the photos of those Grand pa's, no evidence they are still flying. Again it still proves our point, the SANDF has the world's oldest soldiers.

Thank you for triple shooting your soweto foot.


[color=#990000]Now, provide evidence that the SAAF has more than 9 qualified Gripen pilots? Thank you.[/color]

Centrifude:


WooooooooooW!!!!! LMFAO That's your interpretation of a Vertical Takeoff

Now I realise that what Patches has been saying about you is true, you just claim sh*t and you expect people to believe you.

That's not a Vertical takeoff because the plane was already in the air, when it moved vertically.

We all know how you see the JF-17 as a Godly plane but the fact is it can't do what you're saying.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VTOL_aircraft

There's a list of a many of the known Aircraft capable of Vertical Takeoff.

FighterPilot:


I won't even wonder if you can even dispute in heaven that your name was ever HENRY. Even with an open evidence in pictures you still deny that those are still pilots.

For your information, there are many pilots who are being placed on gripes platform so far. We don't know much about their daily activities and to conclude that they are doing nothing is still flawed because whenever they do not have furl to fly gripen to accumulate enough hours.

lezz:
we are talking about the IQ grade that couldn't manage their economy, leaving for 5% white settlers to own.

Henry120:


I didn't say they are doing nothing, how do you think they got to 9 in the first place?


Fighterpilot, make SAAF proud, prove you have more than 9 qualified Gripen pilots?

Henry120:


Your numbers still do not add up. There is no evidence you have above 9 Qualified Gripen Pilots. Of that number, which of them are navigators, the photos of those Grand pa's, no evidence they are still flying. Again it still proves our point, the SANDF has the world's oldest soldiers.

Thank you for triple shooting your soweto foot.


[color=#990000]Now, provide evidence that the SAAF has more than 9 qualified Gripen pilots? Thank you.[/color]

Patchesagain:


Jf-17 is not more maneuverable

Radar look down range for the grip is unconfirmed

Apart from the JF-17 s range - Gripen is better in every way you yourself admit it

jln115:
26-12=14

Patchesagain:


ANd yet the Gripen has a better thrust/weight ratio

Jf-17 is trash - runs on a civilian grade operating system ffs

saengine:


You can do yourself a favour and save YOUR own time by not ever replying to my posts again, if you're going to drop this rub.bish and run away like a little bi.tch boy.

I have shown you 15 Gripen pilots taken from 2009 up until 2014. The other day you said we have 9 Gripen pilots total, BUT ONLY 6 are qualified. It is YOU who said we have 9 pilots. You never got that info from the SAAF, Defenceweb, Janes Defence....etc. YOU took a number of 18 aircrew, divided by 2, and said we have 9 pilots.

Now kindly show us which of the 15 pilots in the pics (infact let us even say 14, since Blokkies Joubert is a reserve pilot) have left the SAAF, bringing the total number to 9 Gripen pilots. If you are unable to do that, dont even waste energy moving a finger to reply.

You think you are being smart by now asking for proof of more than "9 qualified pilots"? You yourself said we have 9 total....6 qualified.

Henry120:


Cool story bro, that number still doesn't add up.

jln115:

You mean the economy that is much more sophisticated and advanced than any other country in Africa.

Henry120:


At present the SAAF can only muster six qualified Gripen pilots who only have 150 flying hours available across the whole Gripen squadron this year, according to Maynier. The annual target for fighter flying hours was 250 for the 2011/2012 period, according to the Department of Defence’s most recent Annual Report.

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29831:a-dozen-saaf-gripens-in-long-term-storage35:Aerospace




SAAF only has 6 qualified Gripen Pilots, and only 9 Gripen Pilots of a total Gripen crew of 18.

Henry120:


Just a single digit, quite insignificant really. Or are you saying that single digit thrust is worth $35 million
more?

The JF-17's C++ programing is an advantage for the fighter. It is easy to debug and write. Hell, even the F-35 runs on C++ programing.

Gripen runs on ADA, not a difficult language either.

saengine:


June 16. 12:26 pm. Page 2290

-Chief of the South African Air Force, Henry 120 states that we only have 9 Gripen pilots of which, only 6 are qualified.

-He is shown evidence that there are physically more than 9 Gripen pilots.

-After choking on his coffee, he now demands proof that we have more than "9 qualified pilots". Utter utter desperation.

-Let him show us which of the 14/15 pilots shown no longer fly in the SAAF. Let him show us who makes up the famous number 9.

Centrifude:


www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1505103&page=28

Those are definitely Somali Cadets. There's a source to prove it, it has multiple pictures of Somalis wearing that Uniform.

So you and @agaugust can just sit the f*ck down.