Msauza:

And the hawks?

[size=16pt]south african Hawk jets have no air to air missiles at all. fact.[/size]

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zaandrew:

For the ISRT yes, but the ISRT was only a interim AAM till the A darter came out. No detail on number of A-darters will be public domian since you know we build it our self.

A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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[size=16pt]south african navy Valour Frigates have only 4 Exocet missiles for each warship instead of the standard 8 anti-ship missiles. fact.[/size]

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zaandrew:

Who said they used that satellite.

you @andrewza said it. want me to repeat your post again ? liar

andrewza:

http://www.sunspace.co.za/home/

Funy how sa is still takings pics after 2010

Msauza: Of all 12 Nigerian F7-Ni only three are loaded with missiles with only one each and the rest are free falling bombs. That is a fact!!!

NO ! you posted wrong fact.

TRUE FACT IS : nigerian 12 F-7 jets have 20 PL-9 missiles to share and a big back up supply of over 100 Atoll missiles too, plus many air to ground rockets/rocket pods/special bombs all worth about $ 30 million of assorted ammunitions. fact !

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agaugust:

[size=16pt]south african Hawk jets have no air to air missiles at all. fact.[/size]

[img]http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=38940[/img]

A darter has been certfied on the hawk.

agaugust:

A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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The A darter has been certfied on the gripen and hawk all ready. This was achieved last year.

zaandrew:

And M23 is hardly a trusted source i mean they not going to admit to war crimes

south africa too is hardly a trusted source. Angolan bush war and Seleka combat casualty figures dispute, fake satellite, extra extra extra

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agaugust: .

[size=16pt]south african navy Valour Frigates have only 4 Exocet missiles for each warship instead of the standard 8 anti-ship missiles. fact.[/size]

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What. You think SIPRI can not be off with SA to. Each frigat has 2 quade cells 2x4 is what now.

zaandrew:

The A darter has been certfied on the gripen and hawk all ready. This was achieved last year.

if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill.

agaugust:

NO ! you posted wrong fact.

TRUE FACT IS : nigerian 12 F-7 jets have 20 PL-9 missiles to share and a big back up supply of over 100 Atoll missiles too, plus many air to ground rockets/rocket pods/special bombs all worth about $ 30 million of assorted ammunitions. fact !

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So you not atoll we have r,d and v daters.

And you have less aam's than sa.

NaijaPikinGidi:

Laughable stupidity! You are not up to anything worth my while! My time in my real world is more important than responding to every trash from you especially. Why not log me off if you can!

Yes - your time in your real world of Hillbrow, no doubt. Where you take refuge away from all that is Naai-geria. When are you going to Park Station again, to take the city liner?

agaugust:

south african too is hardly a trusted source. Angolan bush war and Seleka combat casualty figures dispute, fake satellite, extra extra extra

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Only fools doubt those casulty reports and how do you fake a satlight photo.

Now what are those extras.


Any case the SANDF is not the source of the info.

zaandrew:


What. You think SIPRI can not be off with SA to. Each frigat has 2 quade cells 2x4 is what now.

same way your Gripen jets will fly with empty missile pylons/hardpoints, same way your Valour warships will sail with empty missile cells. fact !

south africa itself never hides basic military information, they are always boasting about what they have to show the world. SIPRI will see south african a.zz more than they see nigeria's , your country's military sh..i..t hole is always open to the public on internet...thats why i know too much about south african weapons and their weaknesses

@saengine has been boasting here that south african navy test fires anti-ship missiles regularly, so we dont even know if your warships have up to the 4 missiles each by now after 6 years, the number could be less since your people boast that south african navy test fires missiles regularly on all 4 warships. nice waste of money....$1 million per unit missile. fools

Gripen jets are short of missiles
Valour frigates are short of missiles

south african military weakness...live with it, or deal with it.
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zaandrew:

So you not atoll we have r,d and v daters.

And you have less aam's than sa.

only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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Mike..ZA:
Using the NTW-20 sniper rifle. SANDF snipers in the FIB took out an M23 machine gun position which was used to pin down the FARDC today. Try get information from Makenga's boys how is it like to be a "foe" of the SANDF.

quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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agaugust:

if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill.

http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/a-darter-could-be-followed-by-further-south-african-brazilian-air-force-missile-projects-2012-11-09

he A-Darter has already been integrated on to the South African Air Force’s Saab Gripen fighters and is also being integrated on to its BAE Systems Hawk fighter-trainers. Integration of the missile on Brazilian Air Force fighters will take place in Brazil, with the support of Denel Dynamics, which is the design authority.

agaugust:

quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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A fast search got this.

http://m.jacarandafm.com/post/sandf-denies-drc-clashes/

24 August 2013 at 17:10
The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) on Saturday denied reports that South African troops had clashed with rebels in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
   
"We have not heard about any of this," said SANDF spokesman Brigadier General Xolani Mabanga.
   
The SA National Defence Union (Sandu) said the local troops had been involved in clashes with the rebels.
  
"[We understand] that troops deployed in the intervention brigade in the eastern DRC have been engaged in at least two incidents of engagement with enemy rebel forces near Goma over the past 12 hours," Sandu's Tim Flack said in a statement.
  
"Apparently our troops eliminated an enemy machine gun nest hampering the advance of Congolese forces and also returned mortar fire on rebel forces."
   
Flack said the union wished the local troops in the DRC all the best.
   

agaugust:

only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong.

agaugust:

only IRIS missile works on Gripen jet as at today and you have only one missile for each Gripen. dont write ant A or B or Z data to cover up your open a.zz

nigeria has over 100 Atoll air to air missiles for F-7 jet. Fact ! dont let me rubbish you with sources again, like the APR-40 story. sharaaap dude !

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Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong. Denel could certfie any of it's wepaons on our gripens.

agaugust:

same way your Gripen jets will fly with empty missile pylons/hardpoints, same way your Valour warships will sail with empty missile cells. fact !

south africa itself never hides basic military information, they are always boasting about what they have to show the world. SIPRI will see south african a.zz more than they see nigeria's , your country's military sh..i..t hole is always open to the public on internet...thats why i know too much about south african weapons and their weaknesses

@saengine has been boasting here that south african navy test fires anti-ship missiles regularly, so we dont even know if your warships have up to the 4 missiles each by now after 6 years, the number could be less since your people boast that south african navy test fires missiles regularly on all 4 warships. nice waste of money....$1 million per unit missile. fools

Gripen jets are short of missiles
Valour frigates are short of missiles

south african military weakness...live with it, or deal with it.
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SA has very few air threats most of the gripen hard points would carry bombs. Even so the a darter is there.


No SANDF is very secrive it has a secrtive account that not even members of parlment has access to. We reveal info to show that we not waisting money. Our defence industry market the goods that of course the sandf use and we may even assest with the markting.

We fire a few excocet and umkontho every now and then. And replenish stock. Any case we have skepion ASMs

agaugust:

A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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The Gripen(forgot its number) stationed in overberg test range,has fired the A-Darter missile on many occasions during testing.

agaugust:

A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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The Gripen(forgot its number) stationed in overberg test range,has fired the A-Darter missile on many occasions during testing. And oh the Gripens SAAF bought,have special features.

agaugust:

A-Darter is missile is NOT yet in service today though developed, and it is a south african missile NOT yet configured to be used by SAAB Gripen which is a Swedish made imported jet .

try to be honest and give complete information. half information is a form of mis-information.

south african Gripen jets have only one missile each for over 5 years . fact you were hiding for 600 pages of this thread.

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A-Darter January flight tests successful
Date: 7 March 2012
The Denel Dynamics A-Darter 5th generation
infra-red guided short range air-to-air missile is a
step closer to production following a successful
series of undisclosed guided launches in January.
The joint R1 billion missile programme between
South Africa and Brazil is in its fifth year of
development, and only a hand-full of countries in
the world are capable of developing missiles in
this class.
"We successfully executed the air launched
guided missile firings from the South African Air
Force's SAAB Gripen fighter platform at the local
Overberg Test Range," said Deon Olivier, Business
Development Manager for Air-to-Air missiles.
"These launches were completed against
(amongst others) the Denel Dynamics high speed
Skua aerial target drone which is designed for
high subsonic missile testing and evaluation."
The programme has now entered its qualification
phase, and is well on its way to completion by
next year (2013), with the ultimate goal of being
production-ready by the end of that year. The
initial fighter aircraft for integration are the Hawk
and Gripen for the South African Air Force (SAAF),
and the Northrop F-5M for the Brazilian Air Force.
It is likely that A-Darter will enter into operational
service in both air forces in 2014, Denel Dynamics
said in a statement released at the Defence and
Security Asia 2012 show in Thailand.
The company says the relationship with the
Brazilian Air Force and Brazilian industry on the
development programme has strengthened the
ties between the two countries and may lead to
more cooperation opportunities. "There are also
significant export opportunities for this product
into further markets, particularly with A-Darter's
aircraft integration flexibility across platforms,"
said Olivier.
The A-Darter was successfully launched in-flight
from a Gripen fighter jet for the first time on 17
June 2010. This led to all subsequent firings
taking place with clearance for the full carriage
and firing envelopes of the Gripen. It ultimately
resulted in a successful clearance programme -
commended by SAAB as well as South African
certification authorities.

agaugust:

quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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You should get me link about how BH killed forty of your fellow country men.

agaugust:

quote BBC or Reuters or VOA source for the above claim please

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Media statement by the South
African National Defence Union
on operational contact by
South African troops with M23
rebel enemy forces in the DRC.
Pretoria
SANDU HQ
24 August 2013
SANDU understands that South
African Troops deployed in the
intervention brigade in the
eastern DRC have been
engaged on at least two
incidents of engagement with
enemy rebel forces near Goma
over the past 12 hours.
Apparently our troops
eliminated an enemy machine
gun nest hampering the
advance of Congolese forces
and also returned mortar fire
on rebel forces.
SANDU wishes our troops in the
DRC all the best and we call on
all South Africans to support
our men and women in uniform
facing the inevitable dangers of
military conflict irrespective of
political opinion. Our soldiers
need to know that we back
them. We wish for their safe
return after successful
completion if their tour of duty.

CraigB:

They keep trying to discredit Ghana just because Ghana happens to be smaller. But everyone knows that Ghana is the only shining star in west africa. Far better than Naai-geria. Better by a mile. No wonder the preacher says if Naai-gerian refugees come to Ghana, then Ghana is finished.

guy u are just deceiving your self nigeria is the giant of west africa and africa. You say ghana is far better than nigeria what role do they play africa don't even know y am saying africa what role do they play in west africa if any african country is in crisis who do they come and meet for help nigeria not ghana because they know ghana is shit they do much to help their country un like nigeria. And you also say ur country economy is going grow faster than nigeria's economy in 2013 then tell me why nigeria has the fastest growing economy in africa

agaugust:

if you have a source to prove that, post it or else lets wait and see a Hawk fire an A-darter missile in air to air combat drill.

Show me any Nigeria air to air combat kill,any Nigerian MBT(Main battle tank) kill. Any Nigerian counter battery firing. Any Nigerian submarine kill(sinking). Any Nigeria drone in action,selecting targets for howitzers. Any Nigerian successful interception of a jet fighter. Any record of Nigerian howitzers destroying armoured vehicles,tanks,infantry,anti aircraft systems and war planes. If there's non that means Nigeria lacks war experience and doesn't have a unique way of operating like the SANDF(Long distances,less supplies).

mchidi: guy u are just deceiving your self nigeria is the giant of west africa and africa. You say ghana is far better than nigeria what role do they play africa don't even know y am saying africa what role do they play in west africa if any african country is in crisis who do they come and meet for help nigeria not ghana because they know ghana is shit they do much to help their country un like nigeria. And you also say ur country economy is going grow faster than nigeria's economy in 2013 then tell me why nigeria has the fastest growing economy in africa

What's the biggest economy in Africa now? Let's us not talk about stuff from your dreams.

mchidi: guy u are just deceiving your self nigeria is the giant of west africa and africa. You say ghana is far better than nigeria what role do they play africa don't even know y am saying africa what role do they play in west africa if any african country is in crisis who do they come and meet for help nigeria not ghana because they know ghana is shit they do much to help their country un like nigeria. And you also say ur country economy is going grow faster than nigeria's economy in 2013 then tell me why nigeria has the fastest growing economy in africa

That's the problem with you lot. It's all about roles. Ghana has the better living standards, which is what matters in the end. And actually, the fastest growing economy right now is Libya at 11.6 per cent. So, I won't be answering your clearly erroneous question. You have some reading to do.

mchidi: guy u are just deceiving your self nigeria is the giant of west africa and africa. You say ghana is far better than nigeria what role do they play africa don't even know y am saying africa what role do they play in west africa if any african country is in crisis who do they come and meet for help nigeria not ghana because they know ghana is shit they do much to help their country un like nigeria. And you also say ur country economy is going grow faster than nigeria's economy in 2013 then tell me why nigeria has the fastest growing economy in africa

Nigeria does not have the fastest growing economy in africa. And sad thing is nigeria annal budget is tiny. So you guys are actualy poor.

zaandrew:

Well I have jus shown we the a darter is certfied on the gripen. So you all ready wrong.

you showed me NOTHING....quote a source and let your source confirm the test firing of south african missile on the swedish Gripen. show me that specific source !