agaugust: .



[size=16pt]Ukraine's air force Mi-24 Hind helicopter gunships finish the tactical attack on M23 rebels

.....after which UN is confident enough to slowly give a chance in a less capable South African air force with Rooivalk helicopter gunships in congo DRC

Tanzania's army Artillery guns complete the tactical bombardment of M23 rebels

.....after this the UN is confident enough to reluctantly invite a less courageous South African army with G6 or other artillery guns in congo DRC [/size]


the world's (UN) tested, tried, and trusted military forces have done the most important job of MASTERS in combat, the SERVANTS are now invited to come from Soweto land to follow the teaching and footsteps of their MASTERS.


Ukraine shines in Congo DRC, European backbone of UN air power, clears the frontline for others to follow

Searched and searched for a source link. Didn't find any source link.

Dismissed the whole post seeing as it's mouth-foaming with no substance. More of the same. Ho-hum.

*continues with shopping, with the rubbish firmly ignored.

chris365:

yeah, and you failed woefully until other SADC troops came to your rescue

South Africans botch military intervention in Lesotho

They achieved the exact opposite. Moving in against fierce resistance, with poor information from their intelligence apparatus, they failed to secure their objectives timeously, and stood by while the Basotho basically looted and burnt down their own capital. The major causes of this failure were due to a lack of intelligence as to the situation on the ground, and the fact that they were understrength militarily for an operation of this nature.

I suspect that most of the South African casualties occurred in the first few hours as the South Africans waltzed in like some sort of colonial expedition, expecting the natives to see our "maxim guns" and run away. Wars don't happen like that. Something the South African general staff only realised to its dismay when it was too late.

your military lacks the capability to lead.. simple
http://www.ecn.org/communitas/en/en121.html

FACT! The mission was a success. Coup detat was discouraged.

Msauza:

History has been made and successfully recorded. You can argue hundred times and go to hell. I hope this will make you cry out of jealousy.

Here under history was made by our snypers:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

Hope you are already in tears.

Did the wiki community chase him away when he tried to change the entry? Didn't he threaten to change it?

Was there a sign at the door? Did it read "no monkeys" perhaps?

Flattened monkey, is he?

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]UN Asks South African Army To Step Behind.....

....Moves Tanzanian Army To Frontline Battle In Congo DRC[/size]


UN wants the stronger and more experienced Tanzanian army to be in the frontline battles, thus throwing South African army backwards to watch and learn combat from their new Tanzanian military masters.


"A U.N. source said the South African government is not reluctant to combat the M23 rebels, but its forces were not needed in the latest engagement, which required only the use of the Tanzanian field artillery unit.

The intervention brigade commander used to be Tanzania's highest ranking artillery commander."

http://allafrica.com/stories/201308250124.html


Tanzanian army warriors doing Africa proud by protecting and teaching their DENEL equipped South African army brothers

guy, collect my second shot abeg.. you gbaski

saengine:

Your stupidity might remain constant, but news changes. Now email the M23 president and tell him that he is lying.
Tell him that he is mistaken.


http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/UN-peacekeeper-killed-in-DRC-fighting-20130829-2

However, the president of the M23 rebel movement, Bertrand Bisimwa, who spoke by telephone, said the UN's intervention brigade was on the frontline of Wednesday's fighting.

"It was the UN that was shooting directly at us, from their helicopters. It's the Tanzanian and South African [United Nations] troops that are on the frontline. It's them that we see first," he said.

you never wondered why he mentioned the Tanzanians first? read again and look between the lines.. that's how to read

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[size=16pt]Photo Of Ukraine's air force attacking M23 Rebels....

the masters fight before the servants come behind...[/size]


"The UN and the Congolese army sent MI24 and MI25 helicopters flown by Ukrainian pilots. The gunships, first made by the Soviet Union, strafed hillsides with 30mm rounds and fired rockets, a UN source said.

"We made several passes on rebel positions," the UN official said"

http://reliefweb.int/report/democratic-republic-congo/un-drc-helicopter-gunships-attack-m23-rebels

[img]http://3.bp..com/-InY_pj1Jl2Q/UJRyXrfJAhI/AAAAAAAATCQ/XZVbmxKmeOk/s320/The+certification+of+the+18th+Detached+Helicopter+Unit+of+the+Ukrainian+Armed+Forces+of+the+second+rotation+for+missions%25E2%2580%2599+execution+in+the+Democratic+Republic++Congo+is+nearing+completion+%25284%2529.jpg[/img]

Msauza:

History has been made and successfully recorded. You can argue hundred times and go to hell. I hope this will make you cry out of jealousy.

Here under history was made by our snypers:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

Hope you are already in tears.

yeah right, the fake sniper kill your commander has denied in front of the world.. mumu like you

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Photo Of Ukraine's air force attacking M23 Rebels....

the masters fight before the servants come behind...[/size]


"The UN and the Congolese army sent MI24 and MI25 helicopters flown by Ukrainian pilots. The gunships, first made by the Soviet Union, strafed hillsides with 30mm rounds and fired rockets, a UN source said.

"We made several passes on rebel positions," the UN official said"

http://reliefweb.int/report/democratic-republic-congo/un-drc-helicopter-gunships-attack-m23-rebels

[img]http://3.bp..com/-InY_pj1Jl2Q/UJRyXrfJAhI/AAAAAAAATCQ/XZVbmxKmeOk/s320/The+certification+of+the+18th+Detached+Helicopter+Unit+of+the+Ukrainian+Armed+Forces+of+the+second+rotation+for+missions%25E2%2580%2599+execution+in+the+Democratic+Republic++Congo+is+nearing+completion+%25284%2529.jpg[/img]

You've been flattened with your 2012 link.

* carries on with things far better than watching desperate house monkeys

Oh, * continues to fly the fiag,by the way.

they may try so hard, but their achievements will never measure up to to the brave Nigerian Military that have sacrificed so much to keep Africa stable for decades. and will be ready to train the wimps with shiny weapons they don't know how to use

chris365: they may try so hard, but their achievements will never measure up to to the brave Nigerian Military that have sacrificed so much to keep Africa stable for decades. and will be ready to train the wimps with shiny weapons they don't know how to use

A joke for the ages.

A Naai-gerian monkey with a knobkierrie for a rifle teaching us how to use our own NTW-20.

I will choke with laughter.

And did you use Plascon wall paint on your car-like piece of worthless metal?

guys, check out the Egyptian military personnel by the left... is it really necessary to be that huge to be effective?

abeg my reasonable south africans can answer as well

thanks to the brave Tanzanians for leading a succefull peace enforcement mission to push M23 to retreat.

a tribute to the brave warriors

chris365: thanks to the brave Tanzanians for leading a succefull peace enforcement mission to push M23 to retreat.

a tribute to the brave warriors

Our comrades, whom we did not abandon like Naai-geria abandoned their comrades in Mali.

very soon Seychelles snipers will be leading SANDF in balltle

chris365: very soon Seychelles snipers will be leading SANDF in balltle

As the knobkerrie brigade of Naai-jeria rests in pieces in an avalanche of Boko Haram chrome worms.

Naai-gerian vs Naai-gerian = Boko Haram strikes again.

SMH.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130831-nigeria-suspected-boko-haram-attacks-kill-dozens

"Boko Haram's insurgency has left more than 3,600 dead since 2009, including killings by the security forces, who have been accused of major abuses."

chris365:

yeah, and you failed woefully until other SADC troops came to your rescue

South Africans botch military intervention in Lesotho

They achieved the exact opposite. Moving in against fierce resistance, with poor information from their intelligence apparatus, they failed to secure their objectives timeously, and stood by while the Basotho basically looted and burnt down their own capital. The major causes of this failure were due to a lack of intelligence as to the situation on the ground, and the fact that they were understrength militarily for an operation of this nature.

I suspect that most of the South African casualties occurred in the first few hours as the South Africans waltzed in like some sort of colonial expedition, expecting the natives to see our "maxim guns" and run away. Wars don't happen like that. Something the South African general staff only realised to its dismay when it was too late.

your military lacks the capability to lead.. simple
http://www.ecn.org/communitas/en/en121.html

\By the time the other countries rocked up the coup had been stoped, so please stop with you bull, but this has been discussed and you still menstion it, because tou a fool

agaugust: .



[size=16pt]Ukraine's air force Mi-24 Hind helicopter gunships finish the tactical attack on M23 rebels

.....after which UN is confident enough to slowly give a chance in a less capable South African air force with Rooivalk helicopter gunships in congo DRC

Tanzania's army Artillery guns complete the tactical bombardment of M23 rebels

.....after this the UN is confident enough to reluctantly invite a less courageous South African army with G6 or other artillery guns in congo DRC [/size]


the world's (UN) tested, tried, and trusted military forces have done the most important job of MASTERS in combat, the SERVANTS are now invited to come from Soweto land to follow the teaching and footsteps of their MASTERS.

"The UN and the Congolese army sent MI24 and MI25 helicopters flown by Ukrainian pilots. The gunships, first made by the Soviet Union, strafed hillsides with 30mm rounds and fired rockets, a UN source said.

"We made several passes on rebel positions," the UN official said"

http://reliefweb.int/report/democratic-republic-congo/un-drc-helicopter-gunships-attack-m23-rebels



Ukraine shines in Congo DRC, European backbone of UN air power, clears the frontline for others to follow

my God you are a fool, the UN has asked for rooivalks along tome ago, if they did not think they were better they would have just asked for hinds, and we were only just asked for our ARTY but you jump to these conclusions, yes this is wshy i call you a fool with zero credbliety. please leave this forum and stop embarsing every african with your perthticness

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[size=16pt]Ghost south african army snipers in Congo DRC.....

.....fire Ghost DENEL sniper rifles....

....k.ill Ghost M23 Rebel commanders....

set new Ghost world sniper k.ill record.........

...posted by Ghost south african fraudsters on wikipedia......

.....how do we trust Seleka rebel claims of 800 k.illed by SANDF in CAR ?



http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre
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zaandrew:


my God you are a fool, the UN has asked for rooivalks along tome ago, if they did not think they were better they would have just asked for hinds, and we were only just asked for our ARTY but you jump to these conclusions, yes this is wshy i call you a fool with zero credbliety. please leave this forum and stop embarsing every african with your perthticness

[size=14pt]UN prefers Ukrainian air force helicopter gunships and Tanzanian artillery guns for tactical a.ttack on M23 rebels to clear the way fro easy entrance of less capable South African air force DENEL made gunships and artillery


"In a second day of fighting Thursday between the army and the M23, some 17 kilometers north of Goma, however, the brigade’s artillery unit from Tanzania fired its field artillery at the rebels’ positions, according to international observers and sources within the Congolese army"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/us-congo-democratic-strikes-idUSBRE97R0QD20130828

http://www.voanews.com/content/drc-welcomes-action-by-un-intervention-brigade/1736011.html

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D-30 ARTILLERY GUNS....POWER OF TANZANIA'S TRUSTED ARMY...CLEARING THE WAY BY UPROOTING M23 REBEL POSITIONS BEFORE UN INVITES DENEL EQUIPPED SOUTH AFRICAN ARTILLERY UNITS TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Ghost south african army snipers in Congo DRC.....

.....fire Ghost DENEL sniper rifles....

....k.ill Ghost M23 Rebel commanders....

set new Ghost world sniper k.ill record.........

...posted by Ghost south african fraudsters on wikipedia......

.....how do we trust Seleka rebel claims of 800 k.illed by SANDF in CAR ?



http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre
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where in the (south african source) do you get the info for your statments?

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31736:sandf-mum-about-drc-sniper-super-shot&catid=55:SANDF&Itemid=108

“South Africa was not specifically requested to supply snipers as part of its troop contribution but the 850-strong battalion moved to the DRC to be part of the FIB does have certain capabilities,” Lieutenant General Derrick Mgwebi told a briefing in Thaba Tshwane this morning when asked about the sniper’s kill.

“That is a question you would have to ask the UN,” was all he would say. At the time of publication the UN Peacekeeping Operations website did not carry any information about the sniper shot.

agaugust:

[size=14pt]UN prefers Ukrainian air force helicopter gunships and Tanzanian artillery guns for tactical a.ttack on M23 rebels to clear the way fro easy entrance of less capable South African air force DENEL made gunships and artillery


"In a second day of fighting Thursday between the army and the M23, some 17 kilometers north of Goma, however, the brigade’s artillery unit from Tanzania fired its field artillery at the rebels’ positions, according to international observers and sources within the Congolese army"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/us-congo-democratic-strikes-idUSBRE97R0QD20130828

http://www.voanews.com/content/drc-welcomes-action-by-un-intervention-brigade/1736011.html

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D-30 ARTILLERY GUNS....POWER OF TANZANIA'S TRUSTED ARMY...CLEARING THE WAY FOR DENEL EQUIPPED SOUTH AFRICAN ARTILLERY UNITS

where in the source is the above statements facts from? If they think our stuff is so bad they can just get more hinds and tanzanian arty, but no they asked for our stuff because it is better. But you a fool so what do you know did your mommy change the retards diaper yet.

zaandrew:

where in the source is the above statements facts from? If they think our stuff is so bad they can just get more hinds and tanzanian arty, but no they asked for our stuff because it is better. But you a fool so what do you know did your mommy change the retards diaper yet.

only south africans think shiny weapons alone win a war.....

i have told you nobody in the world is interested in wasying money to buy some useless 70km range DENEL G6 artillery. now see real life battlefield reality in Congo DRC, the distance between the two opposing armies is maximum of 17km or even less. reason why Tanzanian D-30 artillery guns are clearing out M23 rebels for the weaker south african army to be safe and protected by their more experienced Tanzanian brothers.

global military experience has learned from war history that an army does not need artillery guns with range more than about 24km....that is what the americans and russians are building and still using today. 70km range of G6 DENEL artillery is a waste, if the enemy is too far away, you lose control and accuracy because you dont knwo what you are hitting anymore and the enemy target may have since moved away from where you think they were, you just waste your shells bombarding a useless potato farm .

UN is going for human capacity of combat experience, battlefield courage, physical toughness, and history of reliability in military operations.

DENEL should start using Tanzania's army to market their weapons from now on !

Tanzania's army trained with China's army for the Congo DRC war....they now command and control south african military.
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agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Ghost south african army snipers in Congo DRC.....

.....fire Ghost DENEL sniper rifles....

....k.ill Ghost M23 Rebel commanders....

set new Ghost world sniper k.ill record.........

...posted by Ghost south african fraudsters on wikipedia......

.....how do we trust Seleka rebel claims of 800 k.illed by SANDF in CAR ?



http://mg.co.za/article/2013-08-30-sandf-on-drc-deployment-no-repeat-of-car-massacre
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Have you now suddenly developed little confidence on SA media such that you even quote from it a lot lately. What strikes me the most is that the only way for those media reports to be accepted is when they report negatively about SA. It always turns out to be propaganda when anything positive come from it. Hence, you must decide whether you will stay away from SA media or remain.

Who's fooling who.

agaugust:


only south africans think shiny weapons alone win a war.....

i have told you nobody in the world is interested in wasying money to buy some useless 70km range DENEL G6 artillery. now see real life battlefield reality in Congo DRC, the distance between the two opposing armies is maximum of 17km or even less. reason why Tanzanian D-30 artillery guns are clearing out M23 rebels for the weaker south african army to be safe and protected by their more experienced Tanzanian brothers.

global military experience has learned from war history that an army does not need artillery guns with range more than about 24km....that is what the americans and russians are building and still using today. 70km range of G6 DENEL artillery is a waste, if the enemy is too far away, you lose control and accuracy because you dont knwo what you are hitting anymore and the enemy target may have since moved away from where you think they were, you just waste your shells bombarding a useless potato farm .

UN is going for human capacity of combat experience, battlefield courage, physical toughness, and history of reliability in military operations.

DENEL should start using Tanzania's army to market their weapons from now on !

Tanzania's army trained with China's army for the Congo DRC war....they now command and control south african military.
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since when did we say that, but have the best weapons sure does help, or do you think wars are won with bravery and foolhardiness alone.

except all those countries that have bought arty that can fire that far, hell russia has the BM30 mrls. The biggest advantage of the G guns is not range but accuracy and accuracy at extreme ranges.

Wrong, the USA has a strong air force so ARTY is less imported even so they did try and get long range guns, they all so need them here are three part vedioe on the issue, go to number three to get the list of different arty out there and there range.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ehxKHhUBc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ3lyhJbyUA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxFBObUZ-4


You many a china that lost there last war they fought, and that was in vietnam. Tanzanian are the brigade commander not the south african battalion commander, you see unlike nigerians we don't leave UN missions when the UN puts someone else in charge like in malil


the fact is you a ignorant fool accept t and move along

Msauza:

Have you now suddenly developed little confidence on SA media such that you even quote from it a lot lately. What strikes me the most is that the only way for those media reports to be accepted is when they report negatively about SA. It always turns out to be propaganda when anything positive come from it. Hence, you must decide whether you will stay away from SA media or remain.

Who's fooling who.

He is not fooling me since i always knew he was a ignorant fool

agaugust: .
[size=16pt]South Africans turn desperate on nairaland.....looking for military glory....sources of Congo DRC war achivements activities now come form Tweeter and Facebook....as SANDF history of non-achievement remains the same [/size]

south africans now seek the help of a dozen civilians who sit in their homes with a laptop googling google to get 3rd hand information and soweto propagander in a FAILED attempt to improve south africa's every worsening combat history.

what a shame, even in a Congo DRC war civil rebellion, south african military cannot fight alone, they are getting daily b..reast f..eeding by the whole world through the UN and about 20 countries' armies and airforces


India's army officer in the Congo DRC battlefield strategizes with Congolese army and others in the UN multinational force.
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That's was last year when the Indian peacekeepers,were trying to stop M23's advance.

Msauza:

Who's fooling who ?

...south africans fooling themselves about Congo DRC war

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Mike..ZA:
That's was last year when the Indian peacekeepers,were trying to stop M23's advance.

you mean when they did nothing? Indian peace keepers care more about drinking tea than going on patrol

agaugust:

...south africans fooling themselves about Congo DRC war

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South Africans are not fooling themselves about Congo. SANDF has been deploying to Congo ever since my high school days. They are merely making their mark and contributions. That's all.

Who's fooling who?

Here under is our pride. History was made last month and neatly recorded. South Africa today is among the superpowers who have managed to hit the target from 2Km away and have their names listed for record purposes.

Check:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

The pride of the lions- The power of Denel's technology.

Msauza:

South Africans are not fooling themselves about Congo. SANDF has been deploying to Congo ever since my high school days. They are merely making their mark and contributions. That's all.

Who's fooling who?

zaandrew:

you mean when they did nothing? Indian peace keepers care more about drinking tea than going on patrol

....while the south african army does the R.aping and M.urder of innocent girls and women/wives of other people in Congo DRC

"The SANDF is supposed to be a "disciplined military force". However, there have been 93 cases of misconduct brought against members of the SANDF serving in the DRC. Of the 93 cases, most shockingly, at least 23 involve R.ape, s.exual exploitation, s.exual abuse and assault of women. These include, for example:

- Alleged s.exual molestation;

- R.ape and murder of a Burundian girl;

- S.exual abuse and exploitation; and

- S.exual abuse and misconduct."


http://allafrica.com/stories/201306130303.html


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