chris365:

by far the dumbest post on military matters so far. even your comrade that's in the military disproves this your imagination.

well the longer the range the harder the shot, but snipers are more than a good shot that is a marksman.

zaandrew:

well the longer the range the harder the shot, but snipers are more than a good shot that is a marksman.

Nigerian army snipers are also expert at hitting targets at long range and can handle long range rifles. that is a special skill for our special forces and yours as well.

but the ordinary soldiers are trained to be snipers. it's a normal training for the army

@Andrewza and Nigerians. here's another sniper rifle confirmed to be in use by our army. am not too good with weapon specs but got it from a reliable military blogger..www.beegeagle.

do you know about it.

andrewza:

I was puting it in cotects. And how long are a hinds rotor blades, how much room for a misstake is there. Basicaly you can't land a hind there. No pilot would take the chance. Just one mistake, one swell and you could loose the ship and choper. It is funny that some one who has never seen NNS thunder up close and has zero martime training wants to argue with some one who has both.

are you south africans all a nation of mathematical fools ? no wonder pretoria is begging nigeria to send you more and more nigerian mathematics and science teachers to open your blind eyes and improve your 33% brain in mandela's rainbow nation.

instead of you to use mathematical data to determine how an helicopter will land on a ships flight deck, you are using your ordinary eye sight....fool

Mi-35 Hind helicopter is even shorter than the 18m i said, its FULL length from tail rotor end to overhead rotor end and gun pod in the nose all together is 17.5 m and that is 6.5m smaller than the NNS Thunder flight deck and that means if the Hind lands on the Thunder there is still extra free space of a whole 21 feet free space between the helicopter and the ships structures and only at the front of the helicopter do you have a structure 21 feet far away, on all two sides and backside of the helicopter is open free always empty air space you fool

21 feet is more than enough space to park a 16 feet long Honda Accord car and leave extra space. you are a foolish navy cook in south africa, the whole of mandela's navy does not know applied mathematical geometry....rainbow nation of fools

19.76m long american jayhawk helicopters have been landing of NNS Thunder Hamiliton class ships at random without any accident or mistake, and the american helicopter is over 6 feet longer than Mi-35 Hind....you fool

"Coast Guard cutters with their Jayhawks HH-60Js and other helicopters performed security and interdiction in the Persian Gulf in 1991 in support of Operation Desert Storm and also in 2003 for Operation Enduring Freedom."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HH-60_Jayhawk

it is only foolish pilots like in that published media news of south african air force Rooivalk helicopter gunship pilots that flew the helicopter in broad daylight and entered into city street electricity cables flying helicopter like a blind bat, because his south african brain cannot calculate distance between two objects

now stop all these time wasting argument that show how badly south african military men apply basic mental calculations wrongly on a battlefield, no wonder the UN does not trust SANDF and they asked a Tanzanian man to be ordering your army about with all your DENEL shiny weapons....fools

CASE CLOSED !

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agaugust:


are you south africans all a nation of mathematical fools ? no wonder pretoria is begging nigeria to send you more and more nigerian mathematics and science teachers to open your blind eyes and improve your 33% brain in mandela's rainbow nation.

instead of you to use mathematical data to determine how an helicopter will land on a ships flight deck, you are using your ordinary eye sight....fool

Mi-35 Hind helicopter is even shorter than the 18m i said, its FULL length from tail rotor end to overhead rotor end and gun pod in the nose all together is 17.5 m and that is 6.5m smaller than the NNS Thunder flight deck and that means if the Hind lands on the Thunder there is still extra free space of a whole 21 feet free space between the helicopter and the ships structures and only at the front of the helicopter do you have a structure 21 feet far away, on all two sides and backside of the helicopter is open free always empty air space you fool

21 feet is equal to 3 giant tall men each 7 feet tall and lying down on the ground in a stretched straight line head to foot to head of each other. you are a foolish navy cook in south africa, the whole of mandela's navy does not know applied mathematical geometry....rainbow nation of fools

19.76m long american jayhawk helicopters have been landing of NNS Thunder at random without any accident or mistake, and the american helicopter is much longer than Mi-35 Hind....you fool

"Coast Guard cutters with their Jayhawks HH-60Js and other helicopters performed security and interdiction in the Persian Gulf in 1991 in support of Operation Desert Storm and also in 2003 for Operation Enduring Freedom."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HH-60_Jayhawk

it is only foolish pilots like in that published media news of south african air force Rooivalk helicopter gunship pilots that flew the helicopter in broad daylight and entered into city street electricity cables flying helicopter like a blind bat

now stop all these time wasting argument that show how badly south african military men apply basic mental calculations wrongly on a battlefield, no wonder the UN does not trust SANDF and they asked a Tanzanian man to be ordering your army about with all your DENEL shiny weapons....fools

CASE CLOSED !

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Once again, spare us the sermon about your decommissioned rust-bucket. It doesn't matter if you can land a space-ship on it. The thing is on it's last legs.

Here's a US Coast Guard Commandant explaining what it is that you inherited:

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MOAA: You refer to an alarming number of patrol days lost because of ship breakdowns. What’s the condition of your fleet of cutters?


Papp: We had 12 Hamilton-class high-endurance cutters and were getting only seven ship-years of use because of breakdowns. We decommissioned two in 2011.

Where do we take the shortfall? In Alaskan fisheries patrol or Western Pacific drift-net enforcement, in drug enforcement or migrant interdiction? My area and district commanders confront those choices daily.

We also have an artificially imposed cut to our finite resources because our ships are so unreliable, and the cost to make them more reliable is astronomical. We have obsolete equipment and engines so long out of general production that parts need to be handmade.

Three years ago, when I was Atlantic Area commander, I had a high-endurance cutter, Gallatin [WHEC-721], off the coast of Colombia. Those ships have four engines — two gas turbines and two diesels — and three electrical generators. On the day I called on the commanding officer, they were down to one diesel for propulsion and one generator for electrical power. They literally had to turn off refrigerators and other systems to have power to launch a boat. I ordered the ship back to port. We shut them down for close to two years for repairs.

After Gallatin, we looked at Dallas [WHEC-716], which shared its homeport of Charleston [S.C.]. Dallas was in even worse structural condition. She had just returned from deployment with the Navy in the Mediterranean and Black Sea and had done phenomenally. But it was at a cost.

It’s not just engineering challenges we face. These cutters were designed in the ’60s when we didn’t put much consideration into crew comfort. Crews are still in 40-person berthing areas, stacked three high. The age of ships makes them smelly, cold, and uncomfortable. We ought not to treat young patriot volunteers that way.

http://www.moaa.org/eMember/em_Article.aspx?id=9286
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You have no shame, making noise about this vessel.

1. Smelly

2. Cold

3. Uncomfortable

Give us a break, will you?

a tribute to the brave Tanzanian army that led a good campaign to make M23 retreat to their bushes

they deserve it.

Brave Tanzanian soldiers that are not afraid to fight in close combat

CraigB:

Once again, spare us the sermon about your decommissioned rust-bucket. It doesn't matter if you can land a space-ship on it. The thing is on it's last legs.

Here's a US Coast Guard Commandant explaining what it is that you inherited:

We had 12 Hamilton-class high-endurance cutters and were getting only seven ship-years of use because of breakdowns. We decommissioned two in 2011.

You have no shame, making noise about this vessel.

1. Smelly

2. Cold

3. Uncomfortable

Give us a break, will you?

south african air force rusty tins of sardines....Dakota maritime patrol aircraft....built in year 1943, used by america, transfered to britain, then transfered to south african air force as a hand me down second third hand gift...crashed in last december k.illing 11 south african military officers and men...crashed due to excess rust metals from its 1943 manufacture date....about 7 more of it still in service today as the rusted junk metal aircrafts of south african airforce much older than nigerian NNS Thunder....only fools dont smell their own s..h..i..t and say other people stink....pigs of pretoria

before crash...



after crash....

Brave Tanzanian soldiers. Even though some criminals tried to claim your glory cos you are not in the habit of making noise.. from your bravery in somalia and beyond.

we that know the true meaning of bravery salute you. fight on brothers

agaugust: south african air force rusty tins of sardines....Dakota maritime patrol aircraft....built in year 1943, used by america, transfered to britain, then transfered to south african air force as a hand me down second third hand gift...crashed in last december k.illing 11 south african military officers and men...crashed due to excess rust metals from its 1943 manufacture date....about 7 more of it still in service today as the rusted junk metal aircrafts of south african airforce much older than nigerian NNS Thunder....only fools dont smell their own s..h..i..t and say other people stink

before crash...



after crash....

Mohahaha!

Fail!

I quote:

It had been built in 1943 as 43-48050 for the United States Army Air Forces and was transferred to the Royal Air Force in 1944 as KG767 before being immediately transferred to the South African Air Force as 6840.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_SAAF_Dakota_crash

South Africa received a brand new aircraft.

Try again, Mr rust-bucket.

You inherited a dead vessel.

About your rust-bucket, I quote:

"Because there are 12 ships and their life expectancy is 40 years, they're all kind of coming due at the same time. It's kind of like when you pay off your car, the maintenance problems start after that," says Wisener. "Well, our maintenance problems are about triple what we have budgeted for."

Your rust-bucket lady was in service for over 40 + years before you grabbed her! Way beyond her life expectancy

It is a dead ghost of the seas. A zombie vessel.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

CraigB:


Mohahaha!

Fail!

I quote:

It had been built in 1943 as 43-48050 for the United States Army Air Forces and was transferred to the Royal Air Force in 1944 as KG767 before being immediately transferred to the South African Air Force as 6840.

South Africa received a brand new aircraft.

Try again, Mr rust-bucket.

You inherited a dead vessel.

5 american Dakota aircrafts were transferred second hand by USA to south africa in 1966 plus all the rust and still being flown today....though started to crash one by one from 2012 due to rust....tins of sardine with metal rust peeling off...falling out of the skies....making widows of south african air force officers wives.

quote :



Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


USA
R: South Africa

5 Dakota DC-4/C-54 Transport aircraft 1964 1966 5 Second-hand




source :

SIPRI ORG ARMS TRANSFER DATABASE.

now to the other Dakota third hand british transfer....

your grandfather's car, transferred to your father after one year, then re-registered by your father in his own name, then transfered to you after some years, then re-registered by you in your own name....is a brand new car after the third hand ? seems you just got fresh b.lood transfusion from an out-patient of the incurable unit of a psychiatric hospital

i wont waste my time replying a mental case

[size=16pt]photo : 1 of the 7 rusted Dakota Flying Coffins of south african air force[/size]

agaugust:


5 american Dakota aircrafts were transferred second hand by USA to south africa in 1966 plus all the rust and still being flown today....though started to crash one by one from 2012 due to rust....tins of sardine with metal rust peeling off...falling out of the skies....making widows of south african air force officers wives.

quote :



Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


USA
R: South Africa

5 Dakota DC-4/C-54 Transport aircraft 1964 1966 5 Second-hand




source :

SIPRI ORG ARMS TRANSFER DATABASE.

now to the other Dakota third hand british transfer....

your grandfather's car, transferred to your father after one year, then re-registered by your father in his own name, then transfered to you after some years, then re-registered by you in your own name....is a brand new car after the third hand ? seems you just got fresh b.lood transfusion from an out-patient of the incurable unit of a psychiatric hospital

i wont waste my time replying a mental case
.

Is that why you aren't telling us when they were built?

Yes, don't waste our time. You even voluntarily told us England received a second-hand aircraft from the US.

Therefore, that's not the issue.

The issue is taking a dead, decommissioned vessel and presenting it as something worth looking at. It was dead when you got it.

I quote, once again, about your dead vessel.

"Because there are 12 ships and their life expectancy is 40 years, they're all kind of coming due at the same time. It's kind of like when you pay off your car, the maintenance problems start after that," says Wisener. "Well, our maintenance problems are about triple what we have budgeted for."

Another quote:

"Commander Gregory Wisener is the executive officer aboard the Coast Guard Cutter Morgenthau, and he's helping out with this training. He says that there are a couple of options the United States has when it is ready to retire military equipment of this size. For example, it can convert a cutter like the Chase into a National Wildlife Refuge by turning it into an ocean reef, at a cost of $10 million. It can also sell the equipment to a friendly nation, like Nigeria."

_________

A dead lady brought back to life by your rag-tag navy. Received after it had looooong exceeded its life expectancy. And to think that reports say that you bought it. What kind of procurement people do you have? Do you have idïots for procurement people?

Yes, don't waste our time.

CraigB:

Is that why you aren't telling us when they were built?


Another quote:

"Commander Gregory Wisener is the executive officer aboard the Coast Guard Cutter Morgenthau, and he's helping out with this training. He says that there are a couple of options the United States has when it is ready to retire military equipment of this size. For example, it can convert a cutter like the Chase into a National Wildlife Refuge by turning it into an ocean reef, at a cost of $10 million. It can also sell the equipment to a friendly nation, like Nigeria."

_________

But then again, the Chase is already a wildlife refuge, Commander Wisener.

chris365: a tribute to the brave Tanzanian army that led a good campaign to make M23 retreat to their bushes

they deserve it.

Tanzania is now South Africa's masters

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agaugust:

Tanzania is now South Africa's masters

.

Throw-away statements of defeat.

Throw-away statements from a country that abandons its comrades.

chris365: Even Zimbabwe went in to DRC, fought like warriors and successfully pushed back the rebels that were stronger than M23 were celebrated and never tried to spread false propaganda.

they let the photos speak for them

Yes, the "false" propaganda that you are yet to prove as false.

Wonderful insights there.

chris365: Even Zimbabwe went in to DRC, fought like warriors and successfully pushed back the rebels that were stronger than M23 were celebrated and never tried to spread false propaganda.

they let the photos speak for them

Up Zimbabwean Army ! their weapons may not shine, but their military brains do glitter like gold !

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agaugust:

Up Zimbabwean Army !

.

Yes, our neighbours. Indeed.

Their joy is our joy.

Nigerian Snipers
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not particularly a sniper, but i like this picture
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1259047_192071_4428406238376_1412309927_o_jpg5013c1239718b556f55240cfb6588993

I DO NOT OWN ANY OF THESE PICTURES, ownership goes to Henry120 and fynline

agaugust:
[size=16pt]photo of the 7 flying rusted Dakota coffins of south african air force[/size]

you no well

agaugust:

Up Zimbabwean Army ! their weapons may not shine, but their military brains do glitter like gold !

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Zimbabwe's army too succeeded where South African army failed woefully

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agaugust:


Zimbabwe's army too succeeded where South African army failed woefully

.

LOL - The only "failure" are know of is spelt "Naai-geria in Mali".

I don't know of another...?

GeneralJ: Nigerian Snipers
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www.nairaland.com/attachments/1249045_17508_387990247972455_709235130_n_jpgc08cda2489c2a17d13f69de8a7c98738
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1259047_192071_4428406238376_1412309927_o_jpg5013c1239718b556f55240cfb6588993

[size=16pt]thanks @GeneralJ for showing nigerian sniper power[/size]

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agaugust:

Up Zimbabwean Army ! their weapons may not shine, but their military brains do glitter like gold !

.

even any south africans have confessed that zimbabwe can successfully invade their country. they know they have wimps as soldiers

chris365:

even any south africans have confessed that zimbabwe can successfully invade their country. they know they have wimps as soldiers

As you will no doubt show us, seeing as as you are not in the habit of speaking out your bottom.

Not that we'll hold our breath or anything.

We understand throw-away statements of resignation.

agaugust:


are you south africans all a nation of mathematical fools ? no wonder pretoria is begging nigeria to send you more and more nigerian mathematics and science teachers to open your blind eyes and improve your 33% brain in mandela's rainbow nation.

instead of you to use mathematical data to determine how an helicopter will land on a ships flight deck, you are using your ordinary eye sight....fool

Mi-35 Hind helicopter is even shorter than the 18m i said, its FULL length from tail rotor end to overhead rotor end and gun pod in the nose all together is 17.5 m and that is 6.5m smaller than the NNS Thunder flight deck and that means if the Hind lands on the Thunder there is still extra free space of a whole 21 feet free space between the helicopter and the ships structures and only at the front of the helicopter do you have a structure 21 feet far away, on all two sides and backside of the helicopter is open free always empty air space you fool

21 feet is equal to 3 giant tall men each 7 feet tall and lying down on the ground in a stretched straight line head to foot to head of each other. you are a foolish navy cook in south africa, the whole of mandela's navy does not know applied mathematical geometry....rainbow nation of fools

19.76m long american jayhawk helicopters have been landing of NNS Thunder at random without any accident or mistake, and the american helicopter is much longer than Mi-35 Hind....you fool

"Coast Guard cutters with their Jayhawks HH-60Js and other helicopters performed security and interdiction in the Persian Gulf in 1991 in support of Operation Desert Storm and also in 2003 for Operation Enduring Freedom."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HH-60_Jayhawk

it is only foolish pilots like in that published media news of south african air force Rooivalk helicopter gunship pilots that flew the helicopter in broad daylight and entered into city street electricity cables flying helicopter like a blind bat

now stop all these time wasting argument that show how badly south african military men apply basic mental calculations wrongly on a battlefield, no wonder the UN does not trust SANDF and they asked a Tanzanian man to be ordering your army about with all your DENEL shiny weapons....fools

CASE CLOSED !

.

Thing is I know persnaly how big a hind is and how big the flight deck is. I know how much room a pilot needs to land. I all so know the hind is a poor hover. So unless you can show me proove that the hind has landed on a flight deck of that set up and size the case is not closed.

6.5m leaves close to no room to manover. Not to menstion the hind is all so wid and tall(top heavy).
What about the telscoping hanger it right there. And 21 feet can be coverd really fast


Firstly that quote does not back up what you said. Do you thing the hamlton class is the only cutter in the USCG? That they have not built any thing new since the 1960s? And the jayhawk is a purpos built martime choper, it can over far better than a hind for one thing


Sorry you do know that every country has accdints. More so with low flying. Even the dutch did it with a apachy.

Sorry it is a brlian in over all comand and our forces are still being commanded by a south african. And by your own statment the UN would rather put a rwandan (a country they have publicy accused of supporting rebels) in charge of a mission than the nigerias.

CraigB:

As you will no doubt show us, seeing as as you are not in the habit of speaking out your bottom.

Not that we'll hold our breath or anything.

We understand throw-away statements of resignation.

unlike you i always reason before i talk. which sets me far above your level.. enjoy

MminaPhiri
But wasnt that true about what is happening in Zim, I do not see the need for apology. SA is fearful of the mighty Mugabe thats why, Zuma as a facilitator will not utter a word about the situation there.

Guptanistan1
@MminaPhiri the problem with SA it is desperate to "PLEASE" they are so desperate that they have been dancing and hob knobbing with dictators of this continent and using our money to bribe them to be 'nice' Mugabe regime knows our army is f@cked up and we are lead by an idiot who is clueless

Guptanistan1
And WTF can anc regime of uselessness do if Mugabe decided to invade SA? when our soldiers can't even wear bullet proof vests correctly? I was wondering how long it will take for one of the desperately poor countries neighbouring us will think about invading SA for its wealth? did this regime no see this coming? and make precuationery measures such as rebuilding our army to protect us effectively? We are already invaded by violent vicious criminals who clearly have millitary training, if one has to judge by hte bank robberies? they are so confident that in some cases they are reported to have keep our police on their toes, imagine the army of rebels where these people come from and this BS regime insists on leaving our borders wide open? SA please vote this foolish gov out of power and save this country.
http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/07/22/zimbabwe-comments-unfortunate-presidency?filter=all_comments

chris365:

unlike you i always reason before i talk. which sets me far above your level.. enjoy

MminaPhiri
But wasnt that true about what is happening in Zim, I do not see the need for apology. SA is fearful of the mighty Mugabe thats why, Zuma as a facilitator will not utter a word about the situation there.

Guptanistan1
@MminaPhiri the problem with SA it is desperate to "PLEASE" they are so desperate that they have been dancing and hob knobbing with dictators of this continent and using our money to bribe them to be 'nice' Mugabe regime knows our army is f@cked up and we are lead by an idiot who is clueless

Guptanistan1
And WTF can anc regime of uselessness do if Mugabe decided to invade SA? when our soldiers can't even wear bullet proof vests correctly? I was wondering how long it will take for one of the desperately poor countries neighbouring us will think about invading SA for its wealth? did this regime no see this coming? and make precuationery measures such as rebuilding our army to protect us effectively? We are already invaded by violent vicious criminals who clearly have millitary training, if one has to judge by hte bank robberies? they are so confident that in some cases they are reported to have keep our police on their toes, imagine the army of rebels where these people come from and this BS regime insists on leaving our borders wide open? SA please vote this foolish gov out of power and save this country.
http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/07/22/zimbabwe-comments-unfortunate-presidency?filter=all_comments

Idiöt. I said show me that Zimbabwe can invade South Africa. And then you pull pull out comments from news sites?

Are you desperate, stüpid or both?. Show us that Zimbabwe can invade South Africa.

You do know that we can post a lot of "admissions" made by Naai-gerians too, right? Have you "reasoned" about that?

Example below, just to show you how stüpid you are for quoting things like the above:

http://naijamayor.com/nigerian-police-and-nigerian-army-are-becoming-useless/

Nigerian Police And Nigerian Army Are Becoming Useless
Posted on Mar 26 2012 - 9:52pm by naijamayor
« PREVIOUS | NEXT »
I think that The Nigerian Police and Nigerian army are becoming increasingly useless.
I was on my way to Enugu and on getting to Awka, I saw a soldier on uniform sleeping, just after Aroma junction. Though, there was a sign of military check point there but they were somewhere sleeping.
On getting to Enugu, just in front of Holy Ghost Catheral, I saw a team of soldiers and police arresting okada riders indiscriminately.
And so I started to wonder, what are these people really paid for? To sleep on duty? To arrest okada men, who are legitimately looking for their daily bread?
Again, in the north, where they are needed, they have failed woefully. They are attacked and killed, even in their stations.
Do these people still worth their pay with taxpayers’ money including mine?
What are they doing in the south and what have they achieved in the north?
Your contributions.
_______

You are an idïot. In your own words, "enjoy"

CraigB:

Idiöt. I said show me that Zimbabwe can invade South Africa. And then you pull pull out comments from news sites?

Are you desperate, stüpid or both?. Show us that Zimbabwe can invade South Africa.

You do know that we can post a lot of admissions made by Naai-gerians, right? Have you "reasoned" about that?

Example below, just to show you how stüpid you are for quoting things like the above:

http://naijamayor.com/nigerian-police-and-nigerian-army-are-becoming-useless/

Nigerian Police And Nigerian Army Are Becoming Useless
Posted on Mar 26 2012 - 9:52pm by naijamayor
« PREVIOUS | NEXT »
I think that The Nigerian Police and Nigerian army are becoming increasingly useless.
I was on my way to Enugu and on getting to Awka, I saw a soldier on uniform sleeping, just after Aroma junction. Though, there was a sign of military check point there but they were somewhere sleeping.
On getting to Enugu, just in front of Holy Ghost Catheral, I saw a team of soldiers and police arresting okada riders indiscriminately.
And so I started to wonder, what are these people really paid for? To sleep on duty? To arrest okada men, who are legitimately looking for their daily bread?
Again, in the north, where they are needed, they have failed woefully. They are attacked and killed, even in their stations.
Do these people still worth their pay with taxpayers’ money including mine?
What are they doing in the south and what have they achieved in the north?
Your contributions.
_______

You are an idïot.

it's not yet time to bark with foam in your mouth

check the two scenarios. are you comparing comments made from a diplomatic row (which SA flopped) to a disgruntled person? what a GOOFBALL

like i said, i reason before talking.

chris365:

even any south africans have confessed that zimbabwe can successfully invade their country. they know they have wimps as soldiers

an i have given you my proof. it's not my fault if you lack understanding and retentive memory.

you can continue your barking. i've made my point.

you've not pasted that picture of your monkey relative and my foot in your mouth... tired already?

agaugust:


5 american Dakota aircrafts were transferred second hand by USA to south africa in 1966 plus all the rust and still being flown today....though started to crash one by one from 2012 due to rust....tins of sardine with metal rust peeling off...falling out of the skies....making widows of south african air force officers wives.

quote :



Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


USA
R: South Africa

5 Dakota DC-4/C-54 Transport aircraft 1964 1966 5 Second-hand




source :

SIPRI ORG ARMS TRANSFER DATABASE.

now to the other Dakota third hand british transfer....

your grandfather's car, transferred to your father after one year, then re-registered by your father in his own name, then transfered to you after some years, then re-registered by you in your own name....is a brand new car after the third hand ? seems you just got fresh b.lood transfusion from an out-patient of the incurable unit of a psychiatric hospital

i wont waste my time replying a mental case

[size=16pt]photo : 1 of the 7 rusted Dakota Flying Coffins of south african air force[/size]

we are well awar the turbo daks are old, but second hand rust buckets? firsly when we got them most were new builds and they were top of the line, second they are in exltend condistion and non have crashed due to maintance issues. and we have a funded program called project sauce pan to replace them.