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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:19pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

Finland and Algeria bought them, so that is more users than the challenger 2 tank

those 2 countries are not world powers and both have ZERO modern war experience, they can buy what they wish and dream about grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:19pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

you posted test against a drone, not a missile....fool grin

i repeated this same question more than 7 times today, show me source of where DENEL tested Umkhonto missile against a single sea-skimming anti-ship missile anywhere in this world...or your cook/chef oil fried brain cannot understand simple english language ? grin

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sukua is has fas has a missile with a 200km range.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:25pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

those 2 countries are not world powers and both have ZERO modern war experience, they can buy what they wish and dream about grin

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Finland a country that mad made the USSR cry in fear, a country where one of there solders disabled a tank with a spanner

Algeria a nations who defeated France, had a problem with insurgents but put it down. Those countries have a history of war and the only resoane they not at war now is because they have smart leaders. Only a fool brags about military conquest

Did you know FN a Belgium company created a lot of the worlds weapons. FN Fal was called the right arm of the free world. When was there last war
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:27pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

Tell me once where a F22 was test in combat, a T90 or a host of weapons. Some like the chieftain/S tank have come and gone with out a single shot in anger were they bad?


i never said combat test, i said manufacturers test in peace time for marketing purposes. Otomat was tested against powerful american navy warship defensive missiles in peace time and Otomat defeated them all....show me where DENEL tested umkhonto against a sea skimming missile like Otomat that is only 6 feet above the sea waters....the skua drone used for DENEL test CANNOT fly below 30 feet...Otomat flies at 6 feet you fool cheesy

i have sunk all south african navy expensive valour frigate warships today o ! up NNS Aradu !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:31pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:


i never said combat test, i said manufacturers test in peace time for marketing purposes. Otomat was tested against powerful american navy warship defensive missiles in peace time and Otomat defeated them all....show me where DENEL tested umkhonto against a sea skimming missile like Otomat that is only 6 feet above the sea waters....the skua drone used for DENEL test CANNOT fly below 30 feet...Otomat flies at 6 feet you fool cheesy

i have sunk all south african navy expensive valour frigate warships today o ! up NNS Aradu !

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So the skua dronethat looks like a missile and flys like one is not enough?

The otmat only drops that low for the final approach you fool an with a 23km warhead a miss will kill.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:41pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

So the skua dronethat looks like a missile and flys like one is not enough?

The otmat only drops that low for the final approach you fool an with a 23km warhead a miss will kill.

i wont repeat the same post i made early this morning...Otomat drops to 6 feet at far off 6km away from the enemy ship on its own if left alone, however as a guided missile, the launcher will maneuver to avoid enemy conuter attack it as a guided missile if any threat of enemy defense is sighted on NNS Aradu long range 180km radar, Otomat is NOT restriced to fire and forget, it is long range and very well guided by the launch officer in fire control....

ALL AMERICAN NAVY WARSHIPS ANTI-MISSILE DEFENCE MISSILES AND CIWS GUNS FAILED TO STOP THE OTOMAT ANTI-SHIP MISSILE IN THE PUBLISHED AMERICAN TEST AS OTOMAT PENETRATED THE POWERFUL AMERICAN MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS AND WEAPONS

....you cannot even think well again...Otomat has now s..cattered your south african brain cheesy

you lose south africa...you lose this Otomat argument again today.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 12:44pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

i wont repeat the same post i made early this morning...Otomat drops to 6 feet at far off 6km away from the enemy ship on its own if left alone, however as a guided missile, the launcher will maneuver to avoid enemy conuter attack it as a guided missile if any threat of enemy defense is sighted on NNS Aradu long range 180km radar, Otomat is NOT restriced to fire and forget, it is long range and very well guided by the launch officer in fire control....

ALL AMERICAN NAVY WARSHIPS ANTI-MISSILE DEFENCE MISSILES AND CIWS GUNS FAILED TO STOP THE OTOMAT ANTI-SHIP MISSILE IN THE PUBLISHED AMERICAN TEST ....you cannot even think well again...Otomat has now s..cattered your south african brain cheesy

you lose south africa...you lose this Otomat argument again today.

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6km is final approach.


That in flight guidance is a weak point it can be jammed

The test was done when? It was not the missiles or guns that were beaten but the system aka radar and fir control
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:51pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza: 6km is final approach.


That in flight guidance is a weak point it can be jamed

The test was done when? It was not the missiles or guns that were beaten but the system aka radar and fir control


Otomat missile is partly a Stealth missile you dont know ? navy cook/chef ! Otomat has been tested again and again and over too much tested and proved unstoppable in europe and america.....fool cheesy



" In another example at least 8 missiles were bought by US Navy: thanks to a evasive, final maneuver, the majority of these weapons, called LRAT (Long Range Attack Target) Otomat missile penetrated inside the formidable missile defenses of US ships . To improve the missile chances of hitting, its nose and wing shapes were optimized for a reduced radar cross section (RCS). Range was improved to 250–300 km while keeping the same dimensions of the previous versions. The warhead was kept at 210 kg but fitted with an armored casing and less sensitive explosives which lowered its chances of being destroyed by close-in weapon systems. Three Otomat missiles were test launched in 1994–1995 with good results."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomat

mighty american navy is the most powerful in the world....they could NOT jam the Otomat missile because it had its own counter-measures/anti-jamming devices....ALL american navy electronics and technology and defense missiles could NOT stop a single Otomat....

please leave this topic...lets talk something new...i K.illed y.ou many times over and over again early this morning cheesy

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:07pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

Otomat missile is partly a Stealth missile you dont know ? navy cook/chef ! Otomat has been tested again and again and over too much tested and proved unstoppable in europe and america.....fool cheesy



" In another example at least 8 missiles were bought by US Navy: thanks to a evasive, final maneuver, the majority of these weapons, called LRAT (Long Range Attack Target) Otomat missile penetrated inside the formidable missile defenses of US ships . To improve the missile chances of hitting, its nose and wing shapes were optimized for a reduced radar cross section (RCS). Range was improved to 250–300 km while keeping the same dimensions of the previous versions. The warhead was kept at 210 kg but fitted with an armored casing and less sensitive explosives which lowered its chances of being destroyed by close-in weapon systems. Three Otomat missiles were test launched in 1994–1995 with good results."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomat

mighty american navy is the most powerful in the world....they could NOT jam the Otomat missile because it had its own counter-measures/anti-jamming devices....ALL american navy electronics and technology and defense missiles could NOT stop a single Otomat....

please leave this topic...lets talk something new...i K.illed y.ou many times over and over again early this morning cheesy


It was the same test janitor

The US navy is large that is it they for the most part are not the best by far. And 1994 is a long time ago


Maritime research enhances SA Navy’s capabilities

By Dean Wingrin

The Defence Technology Development Board (DRDB) hosted a Maritime Technology Exposition at the Institute for Maritime Technology (IMT) in Simon’s Town, Cape Town on Tuesday 19 May 2009.

Combat, engineering and technical officers of the South African Navy (SAN) were shown numerous projects that were taking place to enhance the capabilities of the SAN.

The aim of the presentations was to inform the audience about the technology that is currently being developed and researched by the Defence Evaluation and Research Institutes and the defence related industries to enhance new or existing South African Navy warfare capabilities.

In his opening address, R Adm (JG) Rusty Higgs, Flag Officer Fleet, said that the planning and setting of requirements is usually done at Navy Office level, with little or no input provided by the Fleet and the end-users aboard the ships.

“The organisers felt that it was important to involve the Fleet in these activities and requirement settings as (the serving officers) should also have an input into identifying requirements at the tactical level for the future”.

The DRDB has an annual budget in order for defence industries and research organisations to carry out research for the South African National Defence Force (SANDF). The SANDF has budgeted R303m for research, of which approximately R28m is allocated for maritime research. Although the bulk of these funds (R24m) are allocated to the IMT, the exposition only demonstrated a sample of non-IMT research technologies.

It was stated that South Africa only spent 4 cents in the Rand on defence, while a country like Singapore spent 28 cents.

“Four cents in the Rand is not good enough for a country that wants to be a serious player. We must look after the interests of South Africa,” Higgs said.

A large number of research projects are currently being undertaken, with only a sample being presented.

The Optronic Radar Tracker (ORT) is fully integrated on the SA Navy's Valour class frigates. Anti-Multipath Enhancement for ORT (MECORT) is a program run by the CSIR and is a prototype ORT for radar and optronics research to prevent multi-pathing. Multipathing is when multiple radar signals are reflected by a low-flying target, one directly to the radar receiver and the other via ‘bouncing’ off the surface of the sea. This can cause the radar to erroneously think that a target is much lower than it actually is. The CSIR has studied the problem in a realistic simulation environment, which will lead to a software update to the ORT with no domino effect to the rest of the combat suite. Trials have been ongoing since 2004. Pre-production testing will commence in 2009, leading to a roll-out on all ORTs in 2010.

As navies are increasingly subjected to asymmetric warfare, a Close-In Surveillance System (CISS) is gaining in importance. Such close-in asymmetrical threats are generally cheap and fast, such as small vessels, RPGs, swimmers and IEDs. Immediate identification of the threat and quick decision-making is paramount. Protoclea, in conjunction with Armscor, is developing an automated imaging processing and analysis system, using electro-optic sensors, to improve ship security. This will automatically detect any threats within 1-2 km of the vessel. These threats will then be identified, classified and analysed. The result will then be presented to the Commander with, if possible, scenario analysis. The platforms defensive systems may also be slaved to the CISS for immediate action should the command be given.

SAAB Avitronics and the University of Stellenbosch presented on the development of an active off-board decoy system. An active off-board decoy is a decoy which is used to seduce an incoming anti-ship missile away from its intended target by actively transmitting RF energy to interfere with the missiles tracking sensor. The three main areas of development are the RF payload (SAAB Avitronics), the flight platform (University of Stellenbosch) and the ship and system integration (IMT). The RF payload is based on the concept of an active broadband repeater, launched from the vessel, in order to confuse the missile seeker by moving the missile range gate (where the missile seeker expects to find the target echo) away from the vessel. The two concepts for the flight platform are a flying ducted fan design and a tethered rotor platform. ECM trials commenced in 2005 and an Advanced Concept Technology Demonstrator should be ready in 2010.

The University of Stellenbosch presented their studies on the autonomous control of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) that could result in an autonomous maritime surveillance helicopter UAV. This UAV would be cheap and provide automated take-off, waypoint guidance and landing. The UAV would incorporate a surveillance payload and video downlink. Development of the automated waypoint guidance has been completed, with automated take-off and landing from a moving vehicle scheduled to commence in July 2009. The surveillance payload has been acquired, but has not yet been integrated. The technology demonstrator was displayed, hooked up to a computerised flight simulator.

The new StealthRad family of small and mobile surveillance radars was demonstrated by Reutech Radar Systems. These radars are ideal for marine, coastal and battlefield surveillance, movement detection and border and perimeter monitoring. By using solid-state Frequency Modulated Continuous Wave (FMCW) technology, a reliable, low cost short-range/close-in radar with a low probability of detection and jamming can be produced. The radars can be vehicle, land or ship mounted.

For harbour defence, the displays of the sensors may need to be presented in a temporary operation room, such as the containerised systems being developed by Thermodynamics Fluids & Design. They produce containers for mobile command and control that are fully equipped, air-conditioned and are self-loading.

The University of Stellenbosch demonstrated their research in Human Language Technology, which can assist in translating phrases from one language to another. Ergotech presented their findings from their research on the effects of motion on the body and the ergonomics in the maritime environment.

Biological and chemical environment research was conducted by Protechnik and their findings may help in the biological and chemical defence of ships.

SAAB Avitronics are also involved in the application of active protection technology in the littoral and inland water environment, while the CSIR presented on sonar development for underwater security.

South Africa has a proud history of technical and scientific development. Equipment aboard the SA Navy's Valour class frigates that was developed using DRDB funding include the combat management system, the ORT, the Electronic Warfare (EW) suite, the Umkhonto-IR SAM and the sonar transducers and array.

Many of the products developed in South Africa are world leaders and it is thus imperative that funding be provided for continued research and development.

As Higgs stated, “in order for any defence force to improve its capability and maintain the winning edge over its adversaries, technology research has to take place”.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:26pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

their is only one DENEL CIWS gun on a whole valour frigate, and it is located at that one single side....how will it stop an anti-ship missile coming at its back, front, or the other unprotected side of the warship...or 4 NNS Aradu Otomat missiles coming the same time from all 4 directions ?

does your brain work ? or you are a policeman talking on a military thread/forum ? cheesy

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The Umkhonto missile is the first line of defence against missiles and aircrafts from all directions. Let's play video games then: While firing her four Otomat missiles against SAS Amatola,the Nigerian warship NNS Arandu was sunk by a South African submarine's torpedo. Rescued sailors from the sunk warship praise and thanked the highly trained SAN sailors.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:28pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

i posted nigerian NNS Aradu Otomat missile test results early this morning, go back to page 781...fool cheesy

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Test by whom? Not Nigerians right?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On Sep 21, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The Umkhonto missile is the first line of defence against missiles and aircrafts from all directions. Let's play video games then: While firing her four Otomat missiles against SAS Amatola,the Nigerian warship NNS Arandu was sunk by a South African submarine's torpedo. Rescued sailors from the sunk warship praise and thanked the highly trained SAN sailors.

dont be in a hurry, i am placing NNS Aradu out of range of your 25km limit submarine torpedo, wait for my naval attack war simulation next weekend...if Otomat has not k.illed you before that time grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:46pm On Sep 21, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Test by whom? Not Nigerians right?

Exocet missile was tested by France but Argentina used it to sink that British warship in Falklands war. stop making foolish posts, are you a policeman or anti-Rhino poaching bush ranger ? grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:48pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

those 2 countries are not world powers and both have ZERO modern war experience, they can buy what they wish and dream about grin

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How many countries bought the B2 spirit bomber,how many countries bought the F22 raptor,how many countries bought the challenger 2 tank,how many countries bought the C5 galaxy transport plane,how many countries bought the Tomahawk missile,how many countries bought the Rafaele fighter jet,how many countries bought the Archer 155mm howitzer. This weapons are seriously good,but operated a few countries. Weapons purchases involved politics. And armies buy systems they can maintain.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:04pm On Sep 21, 2013
swanky@vodamail:
You are the only Nigerians who is not Egostical ,because when I pointed out that shortcomings most Nigerians did not agree with me,Personnal I wish them to come on top of these challenge yes you can't kill an ideology but at least if the boys can have the ability to identify the moles in the Nigerian army half of their battle will be won

Every military/ defence architecture in africa has shortcomings. If the biggest economy in africa is only just over 400 billion dollars, not even up to that of poland(600 billion usd), it shows the sort of challenges we face as a continent. it also means across every facet of each of those nations there are going to be shortfalls. Defence would not be immune.

We have always acknowledged that we, like the rest of africa have challenges. If we did not, we would have deployed at least 15 SU-30 MKK's to mali instead of 4 alpha jets. Same way south africa would have deployed your 11 roivalk helicopters to congo without demanding that the UN pays first before deployments are made.

The government of nigerian recently purchased an intelligence system from elbit systems of Israel for 50 million dollars. Ordinarily you should have such an equipment in all 36 states and the FCT. It would cost the government of nigeria 1.8 billion dollars to have such a system in all 36 states of the federation. Question is, Where is such a money going to come from? Or would you south africans shit it out for us?


I do not know what the system is, however I've giving you an idea of how almost impossible it is to run an effective intelligence agency with the resources available, not only in the case of nigeria, but for the rest of africa, including south africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:15pm On Sep 21, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Boko Haram is now hitting Abuja. That's the thing you lack funds,experience and training,now how can Nigeria take on SA without the money to fund operations?

Fool, the DSS arrested 2 suspects who led the service to an un-completed building were the agency took out the 9 more suspects.

Yes, we lack funds, just like every other agency in africa. A budget of 1.4 billion dollars is certainly not enough for the DSS. The DSS should ordinarily have a minimum budget of 3.5 billion USD to operate effectively.

We would kick your butts in under 24 hours tops. Let me reiterate, the nigerian DSS is better trained, equipped and experienced than her south african counter-part, and is the best in africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:18pm On Sep 21, 2013
Henry120:

Fool, the DSS arrested 2 suspects who led the service to an un-completed building were the agency took out the 9 more suspects.

Yes, we lack funds, just like every other agency in africa. A budget of 1.4 billion dollars is certainly not enough for the DSS. The DSS should ordinarily have a minimum budget of 3.5 billion USD to operate effectively.

We would kick your butts in under 24 hours tops. Let me reiterate, the nigerian DSS is better trained, equipped and experienced than her south african counter-part, and is the best in africa.

FBI budget is 8.1billion USD
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 21, 2013
Mike..ZA:
The North was simply neglected by the new Christian leader from the South. Northern Nigeria is just a region ridden by poverty. Your country will split in two.

You are talking bull-crap. The nigerian president has/ did not neglect the north in favour of the south. Equal opportunities/ attention is giving to all region. However we acknowledge that we have in the past made mistakes, and are determined to correct our failures of the past.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:22pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

FBI budget is 8.1billion USD

How much is the defence budget of the military of america, 700 billion dollars. In the 50's the CIA had a budget of 2 billion dollars. You cannot compete with that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:31pm On Sep 21, 2013
Henry120:

How much is the defence budget of the military of america, 700 billion dollars. In the 50's the CIA had a budget of 2 billion dollars. You cannot compete with that.

The zumwalt class destroyer costs 7billion USD. One ship worth more than any African defense budget.
The fact is the US waist money take the Stryker ICV a base model costs 6million USD where a ratel built right now costs 750.000 and a ikwlela costs around 1milion(load out depending)

Base line stryker ICV, 7.62mm armor protection, 12.7mm gun and a tier endurance of 500miles ratel 12.7m protection, 20mm gun and 600mile+ fuel endurance.

So just because America spends lots of money does not mean they spend it well
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MiguelMi6(m): 3:36pm On Sep 21, 2013
I could write an exam on african militaries just studying the indepth analysis of attacks and replies in this room.You guys are bringing your A-game.Proud Patriots I must say.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:57pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

i wont repeat the same post i made early this morning...Otomat drops to 6 feet at far off 6km away from the enemy ship on its own if left alone, however as a guided missile, the launcher will maneuver to avoid enemy conuter attack it as a guided missile if any threat of enemy defense is sighted on NNS Aradu long range 180km radar, Otomat is NOT restriced to fire and forget, it is long range and very well guided by the launch officer in fire control....

ALL AMERICAN NAVY WARSHIPS ANTI-MISSILE DEFENCE MISSILES AND CIWS GUNS FAILED TO STOP THE OTOMAT ANTI-SHIP MISSILE IN THE PUBLISHED AMERICAN TEST AS OTOMAT PENETRATED THE POWERFUL AMERICAN MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS AND WEAPONS

....you cannot even think well again...Otomat has now s..cattered your south african brain cheesy

you lose south africa...you lose this Otomat argument again today.

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Is good to know how weak American defence missiles are, but surely Americans will never like that statement you have written above. Then, it means with otomat you can down all US navy's ships in one day grin grin

You can keep on changing topic like underwear, but the fact remains Umkhonto will shoot down Otomat. You can try as hard as you can to make your otomat look invincible, but it cannot survive a hit from Umkhonto. Umkhonto has a sensitive head which detects the position from the moment of fire and the infrared (IR) homing mechanism will thereafter pursue the target like a magnet. The umkhonto head is attracted to many warheads including those that are rare. It doesn't matter how low the target will fly, the umkhonto will pursue it because of lock-on mechanism.

This is final, you wanted us to proof to you with sources that umkhonto can shoot down sea skimming missiles and we did just that. Now you come with something else which does not make any sense. Why can't you accept that you are beaten or do you feel that your honour will be at stake.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by swankyvodamail: 4:43pm On Sep 21, 2013
Henry120:

Every military/ defence architecture in africa has shortcomings. If the biggest economy in africa is only just over 400 billion dollars, not even up to that of poland(600 billion usd), it shows the sort of challenges we face as a continent. it also means across every facet of each of those nations there are going to be shortfalls. Defence would not be immune.

We have always acknowledged that we, like the rest of africa have challenges. If we did not, we would have deployed at least 15 SU-30 MKK's to mali instead of 4 alpha jets. Same way south africa would have deployed your 11 roivalk helicopters to congo without demanding that the UN pays first before deployments are made.

The government of nigerian recently purchased an intelligence system from elbit systems of Israel for 50 million dollars. Ordinarily you should have such an equipment in all 36 states and the FCT. It would cost the government of nigeria 1.8 billion dollars to have such a system in all 36 states of the federation. Question is, Where is such a money going to come from? Or would you south africans shit it out for us?


I do not know what the system is, however I've giving you an idea of how almost impossible it is to run an effective intelligence agency with the resources available, not only in the case of nigeria, but for the rest of africa, including south africa.
that's why I said the sooner they get on top of these the better fo Nigeria and the Continent,and I hope that other Intelligence operative from other countries take what is happening at Nigeria as a case study and I also hope that they are sharing some intel as to how to handle terrorism in their respective countries
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:44pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

Finland a country that mad made the USSR cry in fear, a country where one of there solders disabled a tank with a spanner

Algeria a nations who defeated France, had a problem with insurgents but put it down. Those countries have a history of war and the only resoane they not at war now is because they have smart leaders. Only a fool brags about military conquest

Did you know FN a Belgium company created a lot of the worlds weapons. FN Fal was called the right arm of the free world. When was there last war

You have said it all. I was about to come to that to prove @Agaugust wrong. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:47pm On Sep 21, 2013
22 dead, 50 taken hostage in nairobi mall attacks.........

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:55pm On Sep 21, 2013
swanky@vodamail:
that's why I said the sooner they get on top of these the better fo Nigeria and the Continent,and I hope that other Intelligence operative from other countries take what is happening at Nigeria as a case study and I also hope that they are sharing some intel as to how to handle terrorism in their respective countries

It is imperative that south africa in particular carefully studies the situation in nigeria. As africa's biggest economy, you are also at risk of terror attacks. However the biggest advantage is your country is in a Christian neighbourhood, unlike nigeria, kenya et al. So no religious sentiments, when it comes to dealing with the problem.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:01pm On Sep 21, 2013
agaugust:

their is only one DENEL CIWS gun on a whole valour frigate, and it is located at that one single side....how will it stop an anti-ship missile coming at its back, front, or the other unprotected side of the warship...or 4 NNS Aradu Otomat missiles coming the same time from all 4 directions ?

does your brain work ? or you are a policeman talking on a military thread/forum ? cheesy

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The Denel dual purpose gun does not need to be more because of this technology below which I have quoted from wikipedia:

In the anti-missile role it uses Advanced Hit Efficiency And Destruction (AHEAD) ammunition from RWM Schweiz AG.[3] This round ejects 152 tungsten projectiles at a predetermined distance, between 40 and 10 m, from the target. A 25-round burst of AHEAD rounds produces 3,800 times 6.04 = 23104 of these small projectiles to destroy the incoming missile.[4] Cruise missiles can be destroyed at 2.5 km and high speed missiles at 1.5 km range (quote closed)

Remember that any missile can be exploded by even a bullets from an ordinary gun. It does not have to come to contact with any impact irrespective of how big a missile is. Now imagine how will any missile manage to manuevre 23104 projectiles shot at its direction with just a single shot? That is for your home assignment to do.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by swankyvodamail: 5:05pm On Sep 21, 2013
Henry120:

It is imperative that south africa in particular carefully studies the situation in nigeria. As africa's biggest economy, you are also at risk of terror attacks. However the biggest advantage is your country is in a Christian neighbourhood, unlike nigeria, kenya et al. So no religious sentiments, when it comes to dealing with the problem.
In your own.opinion what do you think your govt and the citizens should do to bring peace to Nigeria
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Sep 21, 2013
Nigerian airforce drones.

1) The top photo is the isreali made aerostar drone. nigeria bought 3 for use by the airforce air-maritime group

2) The second photo is a nigerian made drone. We have so far built 3 models of the drone, named "amebo". Amebo is a word in pidgin english which means "snitch". The drones were designed by AFIT (airforce institute of technology).

The airforce institute also designed a bomb disposal robot. The program is still under development.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:34pm On Sep 21, 2013
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31822:nigerian-air-force-testing-indigenous-uavs&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

Two indigenously developed unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) made their maiden flight at the Nigerian Air Force Base in Kaduna last month. The UAVs are designed to enhance aerial surveillance capabilities of the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), but serial production of the system still seems far away.

Although there are no official reports providing more details about these flights, it is likely that they concerned the AMEBO III, which was unveiled at Air Expo 2012 in Kaduna. The UAV, developed by MSc students from the Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT), is an upgraded version of the AMEBO I and II. At the Air Expo, AFIT stated that test flights for AMEBO I and II had been carried out by UK pilots in 2010 and 2011, but that a NAF pilot would perform the AMEBO III test flight.

AMEBO III could be deployed for aerial surveillance missions, operating autonomously with live video and data telemetry up to a range of 40 km. Its applications include protection of pipelines and borders, maritime control and disaster monitoring. However, the system could also be utilized for monitoring increasing Boko Haram terrorist activity in the Niger Delta and Borno State. At present, only unarmed US MQ-1B Predator UAVs, stationed in Niger, are monitoring the border of Niger-Nigeria and Cameroon-Nigeria.

AMEBO research is sponsored by the NAF with contributions from the Cranfield University in the United Kingdom. However, more funding and political support is required to develop the UAV further. Looking at the 2013 budget of NAF, amounting to $420.6 million, no significant funding seems to be available, with over half of its budget being allocated to the re-activation of a number of aircraft in the inventory, which have been mainly grounded in the period following NAF’s attempt to topple General Ibrahim Babagida’s regime.

Although the Nigerian government is committed to growing its defence industry, only $3.3 million of the $2.2 billion defence budget is allocated to Research, Development, Test & Evaluation (RDT&E). Also, taking into consideration the underdeveloped aerospace industry, co-operation with foreign companies is required to take the AMEBO project further.

According to AFIT, the project has already attracted international attention including from overseas companies looking to collaborate in research and development. Brazil, having experience in the development of UAVs, could be a potential partner. The countries have held bilateral discussion on defence relations in July 2013 aiming to co-operate in the areas of military technology transfer and training of Nigerian forces.

Although there is commitment from the Nigerian government to develop its defence industry, and a requirement to enhance the NAF’s aerial capabilities with UAVs, it remains to be seen if the programme will receive adequate funding to take it to the next stage.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 6:46pm On Sep 21, 2013
andrewza:

FBI budget is 8.1billion USD

hahahahahaha... That's the budget of 3 top african military combined.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:51pm On Sep 21, 2013
chris365:

hahahahahaha... That's the budget of 3 top african military combined.


The FBI has a air force larger than some african countries,

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