chris365:

you just encountered the clown of this thread. my advise is don't give him the attention.

okay.I see.I observed there are some,I don't know how to put it,some comments I've seen on this forum makes me wonder if the user is psychologically competent.others even laugh along.is that part of doing things here cause I mostly don't find them funny.

chris365:

that's where i spend my holiday too. very nice city but not given enough media attention. but oga henry i love that your other thread. try to keep it alive abeg.... this one wey beeg don go AWOL

I went there in december of 2012. I was marvelled by the place. Yeah, I'd be updating the thread from time to time. It's unfortunate he just went awol like that, I don email am tire.

Fighter Pilot:

Have you ever heard about urban warfare? It is even more complex than bush and jungle warfare because of its required close contact with the enermy. There are many soldiers who have been in the force for many years and quite a large portion had never undergone rigorous training in urban warfare because it is a specialised training. Military is not required to spray shoot around since there are many civilians loitering around. It poses a real challenge than a war on an open veld.

stop misleading people here.

the most difficult warfare in the world is jungle battlefield

next is mountain warfare

next arctic/polar warfare

next urban warfare

last is desert warfare.

go ask the british army why they ran away from japan's army in burma jungle warfare world war II.

stop misleading people here !

Mike..ZA:
First 1. Egypt will always be ranked below South Africa,Ethiopia and Nigeria. Because they have never proved them selves in the battlefield. Equipment won't raise their rank,because they had superior equipment during the Yim Koppur war like the T-62(with night vision capabilities,Israel centurion tank crews had to use NVG to find targets during the night),portable anti aircraft missiles and anti tank missiles(like the deadly wire guided Sagger missile). But Egypt was badly beaten,Israel cut through their flanks to capture or threatened Cairo. Second. 2 Their soldiers can't fight all over Africa(sub-saharan africa to be specific),they're trained for desert warfare. We all know what happens when desert commandos try to fight in the sub-saharan. We saw it in Uganda when Libyan commandos were easily defeated. Third 3. Like Israelis would say "Arabs can't fight".

the last war between Egypt and Israel ended in a draw/stalemate/no winner....but Egypt had the upper hand and almost defeated Israel until peace was negotiated....that is war history lesson for you.

today, Egypt has 400 F-16 jet fighters/Apache helicopter gunships, about 1.5 million soldiers, about 30,000 tanks/amoured vehicles/artillery, about 20,000 anti-tank/anti-aircraft missiles.

Egypt is the strongest military in africa, anybody that says a different thing is a born fool from his m.other's womb

see photo of E-3 Hawkeye....Egypt has 8 Hawkeyes. Egypt will wipe out all south african airforce from long distance....they Egytian army will invade and occupy south africa untill you kneel down and beg them for mercy




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iLS6sFD9d4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoNha1hUQ8w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIkpUW83uTc


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Mike..ZA:
The bush war was never easy. Nigeria has never fought a war like the bush war. A war of tanks to artillery. The Bush war allowed South Africa to develop systems fitted for the African battle space. This is the reason why SAAF asked SAAB to "South Africanise" the Gripen a bit. It is the same reason why the Badger Vehicle will be built in SA with Denel weapons and LMT armour. Nigeria buys any systems it thinks will operate well in Africa. I once said this before that a mine fields can stop the 150 000 strong Nigerian forces. Giving time for another country to call up reserves,armed them and head straight to the front lines to meet the enemy. Or bring up to operational standards some non-operational systems like tanks and armoured fighting vehicle.

land mines CANNOT stop nigerian army, we have hundreds of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and we are manufacturing about 3 different types in nigeria so soon we will have thousands of MRAPS.

nigerian army is NOT Togolese or Congolese army....please s.hut up, and stop fooling around !

agaugust:

stop misleading people here.

the most difficult warfare in the world is jungle battlefield

next is mountain warfare

next arctic/polar warfare

next urban warfare

last is desert warfare.

go ask the british army why they ran away from japan's army in burma jungle warfare world war II.

stop misleading people here !

That your own list or is it from some actual source. Considring you never had milltary training I wonder how you got to your conclusion.

Would artic and dessert not be the same. Actualy dessert is worse since dehydrastion is a threat a long whith heat stroke.

agaugust:

land mines CANNOT stop nigerian army, we have hundreds of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and we are manufacturing about 3 different types in nigeria so soon we will have thousands of MRAPS.

nigerian army is NOT Togolese or Congolese army....please s.hut up, and stop fooling around !

What about your truks, support vechiels, IFV, tanks, scout cars extra extra.

agaugust:

stop misleading people here.

the most difficult warfare in the world is jungle battlefield

next is mountain warfare

next arctic/polar warfare

next urban warfare

last is desert warfare.

go ask the british army why they ran away from japan's army in burma jungle warfare world war II.

stop misleading people here !

I will not explain myself to civilians who have never attended any military academy and who have even misleaded people by saying that Air strikes cannot be used in the jungles. The Jungle warfare is not a specialised training and any soldier who has never been trained in jugles can be utilised effectively to fight in jungles depending on the experience of the commander. Urban warfare is completely different and in most countries is only carried out by special forces. The is no any difficult war in the world as that which involves lives of civilians and I hope you understand that lives of civilians must be protected at all times. Urban warfare restrict you to a limited firepower and air strikes are ruled completely useless. Nigeria failed to handle it successfully in Baga where they have killed more than 200 civilians on air strikes in just a small town. What if it was in Lagos? The whole of it would have been flat by now if the would have employed the same approach.

Bush war and desert war is even regarded as being the most toughest as it does not provide any cover and soldiers are exposed to fire most of the times. Jungle warfare only makes it difficult to see the enermy from distance but its advantage is that it provides a perfact cover for your own armies.

agaugust:

land mines CANNOT stop nigerian army, we have hundreds of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and we are manufacturing about 3 different types in nigeria so soon we will have thousands of MRAPS.

nigerian army is NOT Togolese or Congolese army....please s.hut up, and stop fooling around !

You think those vehicles will hit a land mine and KEEP GOING? Hahaha....ok then

chris365:

please stop using the bush war to justify your military ranking cos it was a war you fought for too long against an inexperienced military and didn't win.

i posted proof of how SADF was pushed back from their offensive on cuito (the only offensive they ever made) and were further pushed back to retreat. how is that something to brag about? no one doubts your capabilities to build weapons, but we are saying that your military is not up to it.

countries like Ethiopia have fought wars and won against colonial invaders, against powerful eritrea etc but we still underrate them. Uganda fought a full scale war against many nations who backed Tanzania(would have won tanzania alone) so why should you be bragging about a bush war you didn't win?

Nigeria only came close to a full scale war with cameroon of which they chickened out. aside from that, we have had small skirmishes with our neighbors and occupied small portion of chad before we were asked to withdraw. (i remember buhari commanded the artillery unit).

but we showed our might in major peace enforcements that the west were afraid to intervene in, fought the bloodiest civil war against an army that was backed by france and other african countries including SA and won. that's enough to make you sh*t your pants.

you can't claim to have military knowledge and not know that any country under sanction if not being blockaded, can still get arms secretly from any country willing to sell especially if there's a pact with such country cos war is good business for arms dealers. e.g russia continues to supply arms to syria after being sanctioned

point is... yeah you fought the bush war..."fought" not "won".... so until you are able to win any conflict, you don't have permission to use the bush war to justify your military ranking.

even egypt has a better war record than SA (at least they defeated libya).

You've only read about 1987-1988 battles(operation hooper and parker). But you should read about the battle of bridge 41. Regarding experience I can say Nigeria is not experience. If you're going to say the USSR and Cuba were inexperienced. With Cuito we all know what happened: The enemy rushed south with tanks,vehicles and artillery. Nigerian army has never destroyed more 60 tanks,which the SADF did in the Lomba river. Nigerian artillery men have destroyed air fields,tanks,fighter jets,air defence systems,APCs and large numbers of infantry. Remember 3000 elite SADF warriors faced more than 2 brigades,but pushed them back to cuito. Besides we all know SADF trained 11 000 infantry for a blitzkrieg offensive. What I'm saying is just because Nigeria fought rebels and won,doesn't mean they can fight. They've never faced a well equipped army like Cuba. They've never been to what I call FULL BLOWN or an ALL OUT WAR(tanks,artillery,infantry from paratroops,motorised,sappers"engineers" special forces and mechanised units,fighter jets,rocket launchers and supply trucks. Winning against rebels doesn't count.

andrewza:

That your own list or is it from some actual source. Considring you never had milltary training I wonder how you got to your conclusion.

Would artic and dessert not be the same. Actualy dessert is worse since dehydrastion is a threat a long whith heat stroke.

arctic is worse than desert boss. During world war 2, hitler's army suffered so many losses due to extreme cold. You can easily adapt to a desert terrain than a cold one.

Henry120:

I'm a nigerian. We are a very hospitable people. Forget about all the bad press, and the 1% of the population who have decided to soil or name.

If and when you visit nigeria, forget about lagos, abuja or port-harcourt. Make sure you Visit CALABAR instead. It is nigeria's number 1 holiday city. Very beautiful, green and peaceful with lots of historical and tourist attractions to see.

Seconded. I have heard lots of Calabar visitors complement ghe plaxe including my sister. Impressive, she saud the bus took her round the city and she was hard-pressed to find dirt. As a Lagosian, that still sounds incredible to me.

chris365:

arctic is worse than desert boss. During world war 2, hitler's army suffered so many losses due to extreme cold. You can easily adapt to a desert terrain than a cold one.

They died due to not enough cold or winter dress. You go in to a desert with out water death is just has fast.

All so german afv engiens where not able to handel the cold.

Nieth of these is a problem to day.


But both are hostil terrians that can kill you.

Mike..ZA:
You've only read about 1987-1988 battles(operation hooper and parker). But you should read about the battle of bridge 41. Regarding experience I can say Nigeria is not experience. If you're going to say the USSR and Cuba were inexperienced. With Cuito we all know what happened: The enemy rushed south with tanks,vehicles and artillery. Nigerian army has never destroyed more 60 tanks,which the SADF did in the Lomba river. Nigerian artillery men have destroyed air fields,tanks,fighter jets,air defence systems,APCs and large numbers of infantry. Remember 3000 elite SADF warriors faced more than 2 brigades,but pushed them back to cuito. Besides we all know SADF trained 11 000 infantry for a blitzkrieg offensive. What I'm saying is just because Nigeria fought rebels and won,doesn't mean they can fight. They've never faced a well equipped army like Cuba. They've never been to what I call FULL BLOWN(tanks,artillery,infantry from paratroops,motorised,sappers"engineers" special forces and mechanised units,fighter jets,rocket launchers and supply trucksy. Winning against rebels doesn't count.

look at this mr copy and paste. so you don't know the battle of cuito was after the lomba river? the battle at lomba river was squarely between FAPLA and UNITA. the Cubans were not involved. SADF showed up to support UNITA with the G6 artillery when they saw that they were almost defeated. guy, FAPLA retreated cos SADF bombed them with chemical weapons (please do your research). it was a battle FAPLA never prepared for.

bragging that you defeated FAPLA is like Nigeria bragging to have defeated Liberian and sierra Leonanie rebels. there's no difference.

here's are some quotes from a book i read about SADF advancement on cuito which was your real test.

"None of these decisive battles, which are recorded in great detail in the South African accounts of the war (irrespective of their triumphant distortions), are mentioned by Zhdarkin".

"At one stage of the retreat (according to Zhdarkin), they were even bombed with “chemical weapons containing poisonous gas,” against which they had no gas masks for protection"

"The most effusive praise was rightly reserved for the Cubans, without whom the author would not have survived to record these memoirs. It was the Cubans who had supplied them, fought and died for Angola, and forced South Africa to sue for peace after having allegedly destroyed most of their tanks and driven the SADF out of Angolan and back over the Namibian border."

the book is titled "Memoirs of a Participant of the Angolan War (1986-1988)" by Igor Zhdarkin

SADF had low casualties cos they used UNITA as cover while they shelled cuito from behind with the G6. guy, russia only sent advisers, not troops. if they had joined the cubans, SA would have been a wasteland by now.

cuba was inexperienced in conventional war (refute it if you have proof).

it was a war you "fought" not "won". so you should not brag cos i have many accounts of how cuba brushed SADF to retreat.

I hope @Agaugust will read this extract attached underneath to see how the so called superpowers are facing challenges in Urban terrain.

The Challenges of Operations in an Urban Environment
Urban warfare poses a different set of challenges than those that confronted the U.S. military for nearly forty years. During the Cold War the U.S. military prepared to fight a numerically superior foe, in armored warfare, on relatively open terrain, with long-range precision weapons. A clash between NATO and the Warsaw Pact would have required the coordination of several corps of NATO ground forces. In urban terrain, by contrast, engagements occur at short-range, maneuver and command and control are difficult, and battles are typically fought at the squad level without substantial coordination or fire support from higher echelons. Finally, urban operations raise political risks which were less-relevant in Cold War scenarios.

For years the U.S. military has been working to detect and kill the enemy at longer range than the enemy could target U.S. forces. The goal behind these efforts was to force the enemy to cross a "killing zone" before they could engage U.S. forces with their shorter range systems.5 In urban terrain, however, America's long-range weapons are less useful. Long-range acquisition is difficult because obstacles obstruct line-of-sight and because enemy infantry hide in and move through buildings. A skillful enemy will deploy his forces in ways that prevent long-range direct fire engagements. Indirect fire support is difficult in urban terrain, too. Most artillery shells and many air-to-ground weapons fall at too-shallow an angle to be effective in densely built up areas. Furthermore, low flying aircraft are vulnerable to shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). And because engagements are fought at very short range, the dangers of friendly fire from artillery or air support are multiplied. The navigation and communication difficulties resulting from urban terrain (described below) further complicate effective fire support as units have difficulty knowing or reporting their own positions or the positions of friendly and enemy forces. The long range of America’s high-tech weapons is negated in a dense urban environment.

Urban terrain also makes maneuver difficult. Streets channelize the movement of ground vehicles. Because ground routes are predictable, cities offer ideal terrain for setting ambushes. The Russian Army learned this lesson in Chechnya. Their armored thrust into Grozny was anticipated by Chechen guerrillas who ambushed the Russians from the sides, rear, and above. The narrow streets, soon blocked by burning Russian vehicles, made it difficult for the embattled Russian armored columns to advance, counter-maneuver, or even withdraw

For further reading
http://web.mit.edu/ssp/publications/conf_reports/urbanwarfare.html

agaugust:

the last war between Egypt and Israel ended in a draw/stalemate/no winner....but Egypt had the upper hand and almost defeated Israel until peace was negotiated....that is war history lesson for you.

today, Egypt has 400 F-16 jet fighters/Apache helicopter gunships, about 1.5 million soldiers, about 30,000 tanks/amoured vehicles/artillery, about 20,000 anti-tank/anti-aircraft missiles.

Egypt is the strongest military in africa, anybody that says a different thing is a born fool from his m.other's womb

see photo of E-3 Hawkeye....Egypt has 8 Hawkeyes. Egypt will wipe out all south african airforce from long distance....they Egytian army will invade and occupy south africa untill you kneel down and beg them for mercy




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iLS6sFD9d4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoNha1hUQ8w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIkpUW83uTc


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Egypt didn't have the upper hand. Cairo was about to be captured and the USA flown supplies like the TOW missiles to the Israelis. Remember the battle of the Chinese farm? Israel centurion tanks were headed to Cairo. And Israel was fighting Syria on the Golan heights at the same time. It is fair to say that the Israeli tank crews held their own,despite being out numbered. Their gunnery skills were good,they could hit Egyptian tanks before they can get close to return fire. How can you lose a war,with the T-66(with lasers targeting systems) and modified T-55 tanks against numerical inferior centurion tanks. Which didn't have night vision capacities,while the enemy had the advantage of massive numbers,technology and the element of surprise. The only reason is your soldiers are ill trained and bad commanding tactics from your Generals. As of today Egypt relies on aid from the USA and Qatar,without it their equipment would "rust" like the 200 fighter jets strong Libyan air force. And they still can't take on Israel tanks from the Merkava to Sabra main battle tanks.

agaugust:

land mines CANNOT stop nigerian army, we have hundreds of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, and we are manufacturing about 3 different types in nigeria so soon we will have thousands of MRAPS.

nigerian army is NOT Togolese or Congolese army....please s.hut up, and stop fooling around !

Have you ever seen a real MRAP? This "things" can't take on a land mine. Compared to Maraunder,casspir,RG31,Mamba and Buffel. South Africa is the best MRAP manufacture even the USA and the UK bought our vehicles for use in Afghanistan. And NO army will send soldiers in MRAPS to attack another army. Besides those vehicles are small and can't carry as many troops like the casspirs and Ratels(which the SANDF has over 900 of them). To fight another army cross a mine field you will need many IFV,Tanks,artillery,Supply trucks and many fighter bombers to bombard the enemy while you're clearing the mine field.

chris365:

look at this mr copy and paste. so you don't know the battle of cuito was after the lomba river? the battle at lomba river was squarely between FAPLA and UNITA. the Cubans were not involved. SADF showed up to support UNITA with the G6 artillery when they saw that they were almost defeated. guy, FAPLA retreated cos SADF bombed them with chemical weapons (please do your research). it was a battle FAPLA never prepared for.

bragging that you defeated FAPLA is like Nigeria bragging to have defeated Liberian and sierra Leonanie rebels. there's no difference.

here's are some quotes from a book i read about SADF advancement on cuito which was your real test.

"None of these decisive battles, which are recorded in great detail in the South African accounts of the war (irrespective of their triumphant distortions), are mentioned by Zhdarkin".

"At one stage of the retreat (according to Zhdarkin), they were even bombed with “chemical weapons containing poisonous gas,” against which they had no gas masks for protection"

"The most effusive praise was rightly reserved for the Cubans, without whom the author would not have survived to record these memoirs. It was the Cubans who had supplied them, fought and died for Angola, and forced South Africa to sue for peace after having allegedly destroyed most of their tanks and driven the SADF out of Angolan and back over the Namibian border."

the book is titled "Memoirs of a Participant of the Angolan War (1986-1988)" by Igor Zhdarkin

SADF had low casualties cos they used UNITA as cover while they shelled cuito from behind with the G6. guy, russia only sent advisers, not troops. if they had joined the cubans, SA would have been a wasteland by now.

cuba was inexperienced in conventional war (refute it if you have proof).

it was a war you "fought" not "won". so you should not brag cos i have many accounts of how cuba brushed SADF to retreat.

Your information is very wrong. Russia deployed more than 10 000 soldiers to fight on along with Cuba
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

They secretly provided military weapons, soldiers and military pilots where even several of them were taken in as POW by South African special forces as a proof of their involvement. They suffered 54 casualties. I know you copied that nonsense from @Agaugust whose knowledge about war history is zero.

chris365:

look at this mr copy and paste. so you don't know the battle of cuito was after the lomba river? the battle at lomba river was squarely between FAPLA and UNITA. the Cubans were not involved. SADF showed up to support UNITA with the G6 artillery when they saw that they were almost defeated. guy, FAPLA retreated cos SADF bombed them with chemical weapons (please do your research). it was a battle FAPLA never prepared for.

bragging that you defeated FAPLA is like Nigeria bragging to have defeated Liberian and sierra Leonanie rebels. there's no difference.

here's are some quotes from a book i read about SADF advancement on cuito which was your real test.

"None of these decisive battles, which are recorded in great detail in the South African accounts of the war (irrespective of their triumphant distortions), are mentioned by Zhdarkin".

"At one stage of the retreat (according to Zhdarkin), they were even bombed with “chemical weapons containing poisonous gas,” against which they had no gas masks for protection"

"The most effusive praise was rightly reserved for the Cubans, without whom the author would not have survived to record these memoirs. It was the Cubans who had supplied them, fought and died for Angola, and forced South Africa to sue for peace after having allegedly destroyed most of their tanks and driven the SADF out of Angolan and back over the Namibian border."

the book is titled "Memoirs of a Participant of the Angolan War (1986-1988)" by Igor Zhdarkin

SADF had low casualties cos they used UNITA as cover while they shelled cuito from behind with the G6. guy, russia only sent advisers, not troops. if they had joined the cubans, SA would have been a wasteland by now.

cuba was inexperienced in conventional war (refute it if you have proof).

it was a war you "fought" not "won". so you should not brag cos i have many accounts of how cuba brushed SADF to retreat.

What destroyed the 60 out 70 tanks at the Lomba river? UNITA? NO,the SADF Ratels,G5 and G6 did. The Ratel ZT3 made its first kill during that battle. FAPLA was surprised,the element of surprise is widely used in any war. SADF's 32 battalion and 61 mechanised unit fought well in that battle. You should get Helmoed's books about accounts in the war. In some accounts today's deputy chief of the army was caught up in the fighting,while commanding his motorised infantry. Since you say Cuba was inexperience in conventional warfare,is Nigeria experienced in that? Have Nigeria ever fought against another country or enemy with paratroopers,motorised infantry,mechanised infantry,special forces,sappers(engineers) to equipment like Anti aircraft missiles,Artillery,main battle tanks,MRAPS,rocket launchers,armoured fighting vehicles,IFVs,fighter jets,supply trucks and recovery vehicles? To me the answer is NO,this proves your lack of experience.

chris365:

a typical war tactic for SADF that was used during the bush war. while they retreated from the cubans, they laid mines to slow down the cubans from catching up fast. thereby giving the SADF more time to safely retreat. but what hapens when you push for an offensive? that's where the real battle lies. the battle of cuito exposed your weakness. after several attempts, you had to retreat and continue shelling from 40km (which is what you do best)... fight from a distance.

you can only fool a novice with the bush war nonsense. i studied it, so there's nothing you can tell me about it that i don't know

How many Cuban troops were deployed? Around 30 000 against 300 SADF elite warriors. The SADF totally stopped their advance and smashed them while they were retreating. Capturing cuito would have caused many casualties unless South Africa reinforced with more troops,artillery and tanks. But as the objective of stopping the advance was achieved,it was unnecessary to capture that town. South Africa learned a lot from that war,Nigeria has never had any war to learn from. Unless that civil war,which was "old school". A war of marching troops in columns. In a armour(tanks and artillery) warfare South Africa is more experienced than Nigeria.

GHANA VISITING SOUTH AFRICA IN OUR "WEATHER STATION IN ANTARTICA.

FACT GHANA IS THE 1ST WEST AFRICAN COUNTRY TO LAND IN "ANTARTICA".

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Dressed in full military fatigue and armed with anti-aircraft guns, rocket propelled grenades (RPGs) and a fleet of armoured tanks that they stole from Nigerian soldiers, the Boko Haram insurgents now stage bolder attacks and even overrun federal troops in northeast Nigeria.

There are fears that the continued attacks on the military and the looting of arms by Boko Haram also threatens the fragile peace being enjoyed by residents of Maiduguri in the past three months. There are also concerns that Boko Haram's continued attacks on towns and villages located around a 100 km radius of Maiduguri, could possibly weaken the defence around the capital city.

In the past month, Boko Haram has carried out several gory attacks on both civilians and soldiers on the five major routes that lead in or out of Maiduguri, and these point of attacks are all less than 80km away from, Maiduguri.

Last Tuesday, Boko Haram gunmen, in their hundreds, staged their second attack in a week on the town of Benisheik, 75 km away from Maiduguri. They left at least 140 persons either injured or dead. About a hundred homes and businesses premises were burnt and scores of vehicles, including military tanks, looted.

PREMIUM TIMES visited Benisheik and interviewed some eyewitness and victims of that bloody attack.

Carnage on the road

A commercial cab driver, Sani Babayo, said it was another day of horror along the Kano-Maiduguri Highway.

"We thought they were soldiers because their uniforms, vehicles and guns suggested so," recalled Mr. Babayo. "But when they ordered us to come down from the vehicle and began to ask if we are residents of Maiduguri, it immediately dawned on us that we had fallen into the hands of Boko Haram.

"After separating the women and girls from the group, they ordered the men to run into the bush for our lives. No sooner had we started running than they opened fire on us. I saw many of my passengers fall after being hit by flying bullets. I kept running for my dear life until I was out of their range of fire."

Mr. Babayo, who looked dishevelled with tell-tale bruises on his skin and blistered feet, was among few of the very lucky travellers who escaped the Tuesday carnage. Many did not.

Most of the victims were those who had gone to make phone calls in the neighbouring Yobe State capital, Damaturu, 136 km from Maiduguri.

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"When our vehicle was stopped at about 6 p.m., and we saw how those ahead were being shot at, Markus and I had to run into the bush, but suddenly some uniformed gunmen appeared from the bush and ordered us to go back," Ms. Hyeladi recalled.

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The below post is fro a beegeagle blogger. He didn't put a link, so not sure of the source;


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The source said, “We strongly believe that the foreign militants under the Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb are coordinating the attacks against our men in the troubled North Eastern states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

“We have seen fairs-skinned corpses and those of Arabs of Shuwa descent. We believe they are from countries like Algeria, Mauritania, Niger, Sudan and Somalia. It is very possible they are helping the Nigerian insurgents like those in Boko Haram in coordinating attacks against our men.”

Our correspondent learnt that there were strong feelings in the military that the militants who still have several bases in the thick forests of the northern part of Borno State, were among those chased out of Mali by the French and the West African troops led by Nigeria.

The militants are said be be armed with Rocket Propelled Grenades and General Purpose Machine Guns which are more sophisticated than the AK 47 used by the Nigerian troops.

Another security source told our correspondent that the RPG released to the Nigerian troops were obsolete compared to those being wielded by the militants from North Africa and their Boko Haram allies.

Findings indicated that the level of preparedness and calibre of arms in possession of the militants were responsible for ‘the high casualty on the Nigerian side.’

The Director of Army Public Relations, Brig. Gen Ibrahim Attahiru, had said during a press conference a week ago that the Army lost 15 soldiers with nine others missing during the attack by militants in the Kasiya Forest in Ngazai Local Government Area of Borno State.

Last Sunday and Monday morning, the insurgents launched another rounds of attacks on the Nigerian troops, necessitating the deployment of more fighter jets in the troubled states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

It was learnt that the fighter jets immediately commenced monitoring the activities of the insurgents in the three states which are under emergency rule.

The Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Alex Badeh, is said to be personally supervising the use of fighter jets and the Air Force personnel supporting the Army in the fight against the insurgents.

It was also gathered that a major offensive planned by the Army with aerial back up from the Air Force resulted in the killing of a good number of the insurgents on Monday night.

Our source couldn’t give the casualty figure in the latest attack.

The Director of Air Information, Air Commodore Yusuf Anas, confirmed the deployment of Alpha jets as well as M1, 35 and M1,34 helicopters in the operational areas.

Anas also confirmed that Badeh was in Maiduguri to supervise the latest deployment and the personnel of the Air Force assisting the the Army in the campaign against terrorism.

He said, “It is true; we have deployed M1, 35 and M1,34 helicopters and Alpha jet aircraft. They are there to support the Nigerian Army in curtailing the security situation in the North-East.

“I cannot give you the exact number but the figure is adequate to perform the role for which they were deployed. I know that in the past nine months, we have always had NAF helicopters there; they are engaged in patrol purposes, medical services, medical evacuation and also offensive roles; that is, they are also used for attacks.

“In addition to that, the Air Force has deployed Alpha jets aircraft to participate in the operation. I can also confirm that the Chief of Air staff was in Maiduguri to monitor the deployment and supervise our personnel who are involved in the operation.”

rka1: The below post is fro a beegeagle blogger. He didn't put a link, so not sure of the source;


Strong indications have emerged that Islamic militants from some North African countries are coordinating attacks against the Nigerian military in the North Eastern part of the country.

A military source told one of our correspondents in Abuja that security operatives came to this conclusion when they discovered that many Arabs of Shuwa descent and fair-skinned people from Mauritania, Sudan, Somalia, Algeria and Niger, were among those whose bodies were found after some of the recent encounters with the militants.

The source said, “We strongly believe that the foreign militants under the Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb are coordinating the attacks against our men in the troubled North Eastern states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

“We have seen fairs-skinned corpses and those of Arabs of Shuwa descent. We believe they are from countries like [b]Algeria, Mauritania, Niger, Sudan and Somalia. It is very possible they are helping the Nigerian insurgents like those in Boko Haram in coordinating attacks against our men.”
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Our correspondent learnt that there were strong feelings in the military that the militants who still have several bases in the thick forests of the northern part of Borno State, were among those chased out of Mali by the French and the West African troops led by Nigeria.

The militants are said be be armed with Rocket Propelled Grenades and General Purpose Machine Guns which are more sophisticated than the AK 47 used by the Nigerian troops.

Another security source told our correspondent that the RPG released to the Nigerian troops were obsolete compared to those being wielded by the militants from North Africa and their Boko Haram allies.

Findings indicated that the level of preparedness and calibre of arms in possession of the militants were responsible for ‘the high casualty on the Nigerian side.’

The Director of Army Public Relations, Brig. Gen Ibrahim Attahiru, had said during a press conference a week ago that the Army lost 15 soldiers with nine others missing during the attack by militants in the Kasiya Forest in Ngazai Local Government Area of Borno State.

Last Sunday and Monday morning, the insurgents launched another rounds of attacks on the Nigerian troops, necessitating the deployment of more fighter jets in the troubled states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

It was learnt that the fighter jets immediately commenced monitoring the activities of the insurgents in the three states which are under emergency rule.

The Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Alex Badeh, is said to be personally supervising the use of fighter jets and the Air Force personnel supporting the Army in the fight against the insurgents.

It was also gathered that a major offensive planned by the Army with aerial back up from the Air Force resulted in the killing of a good number of the insurgents on Monday night.

Our source couldn’t give the casualty figure in the latest attack.

The Director of Air Information, Air Commodore Yusuf Anas, confirmed the deployment of Alpha jets as well as M1, 35 and M1,34 helicopters in the operational areas.

Anas also confirmed that Badeh was in Maiduguri to supervise the latest deployment and the personnel of the Air Force assisting the the Army in the campaign against terrorism.

He said, “It is true; we have deployed M1, 35 and M1,34 helicopters and Alpha jet aircraft. They are there to support the Nigerian Army in curtailing the security situation in the North-East.

“I cannot give you the exact number but the figure is adequate to perform the role for which they were deployed. I know that in the past nine months, we have always had NAF helicopters there; they are engaged in patrol purposes, medical services, medical evacuation and also offensive roles; that is, they are also used for attacks.

“In addition to that, the Air Force has deployed Alpha jets aircraft to participate in the operation. I can also confirm that the Chief of Air staff was in Maiduguri to monitor the deployment and supervise our personnel who are involved in the operation.”

This is getting serious

It would not suprise me to find out that forghin fighters are in Nigeria. Or that thanks to libya BH has a lot more guns and more modern hardware.

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Nigerian Navy to Host African Winds Exercise
by African Defence Admin • September 25, 2013

The Nigerian Navy will be hosting a major combined military exercise, the AFRICAN WINDS programme of the African Partnership Station from 3 – 24 Oct 2013. The programme involves trainings and exercises in Lagos, Calabar and Oron with elements of Dutch, US, UK and Spanish Marines and Special forces on the Dutch Navy Amphibious support ship, the HMNLS POTTERDAM. The trainings are scheduled to take place in Lagos from 3 – 14 Oct and in Calabar from 7 – 20 Oct while the exercises are scheduled in Lagos from 15 – 18 Oct and Calabar/Oron    from 21 – 24 Oct.

The exercises will cover company level amphibious raid, marine counter terrorism, sea mine identification and disposal, oil rig protection, riverine operations, insertion and extraction. The objective of the exercise is to improve the capacity of the Nigerian armed forces to plan and execute joint operations in a maritime environment. The NN in line with global best practices is driving the programme.

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This is getting serious

It is in this area a good multi-role fighter would have been priceless. If we had the SU-30MKK or even the SU-25 aka "frogfoot", these insurgents would have seen hell. We have completely over-worked our alpha jets. They are also not fast enough to evade anti-aircraft fire.

This report gives credence to what we have been saying all along and the post by the nairaland JTF member @13 volts, about the composition of boko-haram fighters.

chris365:

arctic is worse than desert boss. During world war 2, hitler's army suffered so many losses due to extreme cold. You can easily adapt to a desert terrain than a cold one.

Desert warfare can be quickly won. Cause both sides are in open area,where gorrila tactics won't work. Regarding arctic warfare it is worse if you don't have supplies,most of Hitler army suffered losses because he couldn't supply or reinforce them. You should know this wasn't just "extreme cold warfare" it was a mix urban and a"extreme cold warfare". Desert warfare requires a General's troops to be highly trained in "long range engagement",to kill the enemy before he can close in and shot back. Like Israel does.

MiguelMi6: okay.I see.I observed there are some,I don't know how to put it,some comments I've seen on this forum makes me wonder if the user is psychologically competent.others even laugh along.is that part of doing things here cause I mostly don't find them funny.

Like one of my brothers(South African) said on this forum: We are discussing military matters or stuff here,so we don't have time for jokes and insults. You will get used to "jokes" on this forum.

Kwame Tut.stop this ridicule.It's annoying.what's your beef with Nigeria if I may ask you.

@Miguel
KEEP WONDERING STEVIE WONDER.

Your eyes can only see my posts, what brought me here are insults from Agaust and his AGBEROS squad.

Its funny now they have changed their colours bloody CHAMELEONS.

Boeing Makes Drone F16 Fighter Aircraft

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24231077

Boeing has revealed that it has retrofitted retired fighter jets to turn them into drones.

It said that one of the Lockheed Martin F-16 made a first flight with an empty cockpit last week.

Two US Air Force pilots controlled the plane from the ground as it flew from a Florida base to the Gulf of Mexico.

Boeing suggested that the innovation could ultimately be used to help train pilots, providing an adversary they could practise firing on.

The jet - which had previously sat mothballed at an Arizona site for 15 years - flew at an altitude of 40,000ft (12.2km) and a speed of Mach 1.47 (1,119mph/1,800km/h).

It carried out a series of manoeuvres including a barrel roll and a "split S" - a move in which the aircraft turns upside down before making a half loop so that it flies the right-way-up in the opposite direction. This can be used in combat to evade attack.

Boeing said the unmanned F16 was followed by two chase planes to ensure it stayed in sight, and also contained equipment that would have allowed it to self-destruct if necessary.

The firm added that the flight attained 7Gs of acceleration but was capable of carrying out manoeuvres at 9Gs - something that might cause physical problems for a pilot.

"It flew great, everything worked great, [it] made a beautiful landing - probably one of the best landings I've ever seen," said Paul Cejas, the project's chief engineer.

Lt Col Ryan Inman, Commander of the US Air Force's 82nd Aerial Targets Squadron, also had praise for how the test had gone.

"It was a little different to see it without anyone in it, but it was a great flight all the way around," he said.

Boeing said that it had a total of six modified F-16s, which have been renamed QF-16s, and that the US military now planned to use some of them in live fire tests.

However, a spokesman for the Campaign to Stop Killer Robots warned of the temptation to use them in warfare.

I'm very concerned these could be used to target people on the ground," said Prof Noel Sharkey.

"I'm particularly worried about the high speed at which they can travel because they might not be able to distinguish their targets very clearly.

"There is every reason to believe that these so-called 'targets' could become a test bed for drone warfare, moving us closer and closer to automated killing."

This is not the first time a jet has been retrofitted to fly without a pilot inside. The US Air Force has previously used adapted F4- Phantoms for target practice.