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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:35pm On Oct 29, 2013
Lest we forget: the uselessness of the incapacitated Naai-gerian military:


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/islamic-attack-128-dead-nigeria-state-capital-20713736


Islamic Attack: 128 Dead in Nigeria State Capital
DAMATURU, Nigeria October 29, 2013 (AP)
By ADAMU ADAMU and MICHELLE FAUL Associated Press
Associated Press
A 5-hour battle between Islamic extremists and army troops in the capital of Yobe state killed at least 127 people, all but two combatants, according to reports from army and police officers that raise doubts about military claims that they have the upper hand in Nigeria's fight to halt an Islamic uprising in the northeast.

The stench of rotting corpses from the morgue hung over Damaturu Specialist Hospital on Tuesday, where a reporter counted 31 bodies identified as those of extremists.

Details still are trickling in about the attack, which militants began at dusk Thursday on an army barracks 20 kilometers (12 miles) outside Damaturu, the capital, where they overpowered the soldiers, seized an armored car, looted the armory and set the barracks ablaze with improvised explosive devices.



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State capital nogal. shocked

Rubbish military, this.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01am On Oct 30, 2013
CraigB: Lest we forget: the uselessness of the incapacitated Naai-gerian military:


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/islamic-attack-128-dead-nigeria-state-capital-20713736


Islamic Attack: 128 Dead in Nigeria State Capital
DAMATURU, Nigeria October 29, 2013 (AP)
By ADAMU ADAMU and MICHELLE FAUL Associated Press
Associated Press
A 5-hour battle between Islamic extremists and army troops in the capital of Yobe state killed at least 127 people, all but two combatants, according to reports from army and police officers that raise doubts about military claims that they have the upper hand in Nigeria's fight to halt an Islamic uprising in the northeast.

The stench of rotting corpses from the morgue hung over Damaturu Specialist Hospital on Tuesday, where a reporter counted 31 bodies identified as those of extremists.

Details still are trickling in about the attack, which militants began at dusk Thursday on an army barracks 20 kilometers (12 miles) outside Damaturu, the capital, where they overpowered the soldiers, seized an armored car, looted the armory and set the barracks ablaze with improvised explosive devices.



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State capital nogal. shocked

Rubbish military, this.


Army kills 74 Boko Haram members in Borno


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/cover/army-kills-74-boko-haram-members-borno/


look here , during your weeks of absence from this forum, people have posted many newspaper publications of nigerian army attacks on boko haram camp on a weekly basis, killing hundreds of boko haram fighters in battale and uprooting their camps, making the survivors flee into cameroon.

the casualty on boko haram side is 10 times more and they are running like chickens fleeing from the eagle called nigerian army.

if a rubbish military is the one that is killing more, pursuing the enemy, capturing and displaying the enemy`s weapons and winning every battle, in your own mind, then i will be forced to say that your parents wasted their energy 'producing' you.

if your still haven`t got your brain scanned and medically re-configured to function normally, then look for a thread or forum made for mad people and post your comments there.



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:09am On Oct 30, 2013
Mike..ZA:
NO Griffin,NO A109 is grounded. Anyone can manufacture parts of that old jet. Even is SAAF was paralysed,your Nigerian air force won't be any close..........SAAF or the SA army dealt with almost all the weapons in Nigeria's arsenal during the bush war systems like the T-55,MIG-21,AA guns and many of Nigeria's soviet era artillery and rocket launchers. Even the AK47!!!!!! Now check this link www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/hawks-gripens-thrill-polokwane-crowds-1.1598341


south african military has never fought against 99% of nigerian military weapons.

show me source as proof where south african army fought war against these nigerian weapons :

Vickers Main Battle Tank
Cobra APC
APR-40 Rockets launchers
Bofors Haubit Artillery
Plamaria Mobile Artillery
Swingfire Anti-tank Missile
Otomat Anti-ship missile
ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft
F-7 jet with PL-9C Missile range 22km equal to Gripen Jet Iris or A-Darta Missile
Type 056 Stealth Warship
Mi-35 Hind helicopter gunship
Roland Anti-aircraft Missile
High Altitude Spy Balloons
Spy satellites in space, which nigeria has but south africa has NONE !

you think nigeria is like burundi or mozambique ?

you are a big time buffoon...a complete Papa Ajasco grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:19am On Oct 30, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Stop avoiding the fact that SAAF shoot down the MIG-21s with cannon fire. South Africa can take anything Nigeria can throw at it. While your forces would perish under real fire,which you have never seen. YOU CAN READ RIGHT? Then read this quote "In 1979, the Swedish government began
development studies for an aircraft capable of
fighter, attack and reconnaissance missions to
replace the Saab 35 Draken and 37 Viggen. A NEW DESIGN from Saab was selected and
developed as the JAS 39, first flying in 1988.
Following two crashes during flight
development and subsequent alterations to the
aircraft's flight control software, the Gripen
entered service with the Swedish Air Force in
1997." A NEW DESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i tactically forced you to give an answer that will make everybody see how foolish you are grin

same way nigerian F-7 jet is a new design and different from the original MiG 21, F-7 jet has a new engine, new avionics, new wing shape, new radar, new weapons targeting systems, new electronic warfare suite, new PL-9C missile....or did your dull brain tell you that MiG 21 jet uses the same missile as F-7 jet ? fool grin



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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:23am On Oct 30, 2013
agaugust:


south african military has never fought against 99% of nigerian military weapons.

show me source as proof where south african army fought war against these nigerian weapons :

Vickers Main Battle Tank
Cobra APC
APR-40 Rockets launchers
Bofors Haubit Artillery
Plamaria Mobile Artillery
Swingfire Anti-tank Missile
Otomat Anti-ship missile
ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft
F-7 jet with PL-9C Missile range 22km equal to Gripen Jet Iris or A-Darta Missile
Type 056 Stealth Warship
Mi-35 Hind helicopter gunship
Roland Anti-aircraft Missile
High Altitude Spy Balloons
Spy satellites in space, which nigeria has but south africa has NONE !

you think nigeria is like burundi or mozambique ?

you are a big time buffoon...a complete Papa Ajasco grin

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Only 2 countries use the vikers and both are african. It simlare it abliety to a T55.

The cobra is nothing to say OMG about. If you can take out a BMP you can take our a cobra

APR 40 is a BM21 coppy witch we took out with WW2 QF25 pounders

Your bofors 77 are in storage according to reconised sources.

Noted but is irelent in the grand scheme since it is badly out classed

Swing fire was good 20 years ago
Ottmat is well with in the target range of a umkhonto

You have 2 of them or 4 if you includ those in civlian hands. They all so not any thing speciol

It a MIG 21 copy and the PL9 is a export model PL8 witch is a lisnienced python 3 AAM. We have python 3 AAMs meaning we have the seeker head of your AAM all ready and no it's limtastion.

Your chinness OPV are nothing to brag about and we never had nearly has good frigats in the 70s and 80s

Mi 35 is just a upgraded Mi24 both are hinds. We fought against Mi 24s built a supper hind(better than a Mi35) and still a supper hind. Most of our rooivalk piolts have flown both there chopper and the supper hind.

We fought against russian rqulvents and in great numbers.

We fought against a USSR backed angola and cuba who know a lot more about spy satlites. All so you "spy ballons" and satlits have not saved the hundreds of civlians that BH kill. And don't say they hide among civlians. BH drives in to towns with force.



You thing nigeria is any difrent from the rest of west africa?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:24am On Oct 30, 2013
agaugust:


i tactically forced you to give an answer that will make everybody see how foolish you are grin

same way nigerian F-7 jet is a new design and different from the original MiG 21, new wing shape, new radar, new electronic warfare suite, new PL-9C missile....or did your dull brain tell you that MiG 21 jet uses the same missile as F-7 jet ? fool grin



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I menstioed the Mig 21 lancer many times. The F7 is no better than it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 5:38am On Oct 30, 2013
agaugust:

Army kills 74 Boko Haram members in Borno


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/cover/army-kills-74-boko-haram-members-borno/


look here , during your weeks of absence from this forum, people have posted many newspaper publications of nigerian army attacks on boko haram camp on a weekly basis, killing hundreds of boko haram fighters in battale and uprooting their camps, making the survivors flee into cameroon.

the casualty on boko haram side is 10 times more and they are running like chickens fleeing from the eagle called nigerian army.

if a rubbish military is the one that is killing more, pursuing the enemy, capturing and displaying the enemy`s weapons and winning every battle, in your own mind, then i will be forced to say that your parents wasted their energy 'producing' you.

if your still haven`t got your brain scanned and medically re-configured to function normally, then look for a thread or forum made for mad people and post your comments there.



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Oooooold and tired story that we've been hearing for close to a year now. It goes without saying that some BH members will be killed (some no more than "suspected BH members". Some no more than mere innocent civilians killed in detention cry - uselessness)

Meanwhile BH feast in Naai-geria every single month. cry

Don't waste our time with propaganda and displayed weapons. You've done that long enough all year.

Face it, you are locked in shifting sands that suck up your resources and time. You have ceased to be a force to be considered outside Naai-geria. cry Your full military machine is incapacitated and made to work hard for its money by BH.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by forumcitizens: 9:02am On Oct 30, 2013
The Nigerian Army.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:49am On Oct 30, 2013
agaugust:


south african military has never fought against 99% of nigerian military weapons.

show me source as proof where south african army fought war against these nigerian weapons :

Vickers Main Battle Tank
Cobra APC
APR-40 Rockets launchers
Bofors Haubit Artillery
Plamaria Mobile Artillery
Swingfire Anti-tank Missile
Otomat Anti-ship missile
ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft
F-7 jet with PL-9C Missile range 22km equal to Gripen Jet Iris or A-Darta Missile
Type 056 Stealth Warship
Mi-35 Hind helicopter gunship
Roland Anti-aircraft Missile
High Altitude Spy Balloons
Spy satellites in space, which nigeria has but south africa has NONE !

you think nigeria is like burundi or mozambique ?

you are a big time buffoon...a complete Papa Ajasco grin

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I'll hit your blue balls so hard. South Africa faced the APR-40 rocket launchers,during the 1970s period of the war,some were captured inspiring SA designs. Your ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance craft and Nigeria only has one. The F7 I proved it to you that it is a chinese copy of the MIG-21,which SAAF downed in Angola. The Soviet Union had spy satellites focused on South Africa,they even detected an area meant for a nuclear test. I won't talk about artillery cause the G5,G6 and G7 are the best in world,Nigeria has nothing to counter them. SANDF can take anything Nigeria can throw at !!! Check this quote about the MI-24/35. "Angolan Air Force in 1985
In preparation for this offensive the Angolan Air
Force – FAPA-DAA – was reinforced by supplies of
soome 20 MiG-21bis, ten Su-20s, as well as
approximately 30 Mi-25s and Mi-8s. The Angolan
Air Force was – especially for African
circumstances – a modern, battle-proven and
actually a self-sufficient force, with 7.000
personnel and some 180 aircraft and helicopters,
organized in six regiments, of which three were to
participate in the operation, including two
equipped with fighter-bombers and one with
combat helicopters. At the time these three units
have nominally controlled five squadrons, but for
their participation in the Second Congress each
has got at least one additional unit. The helicopter
regiment operated a Soviet-manned squadron of
Mi-24s, a Cuban-manned squadron of Mi-35s, and
a “mixed”, Soviet/Cuban/Angolan-manned
squadron of Mi-8s and Mi-17s; one fighter
regiment has had two Cuban-manned squadrons
of MiG-21s, and an Angolan MiG-21 unit, while the
other had a Soviet-manned “special” MiG-21
squadron, an Angolan MiG-17-unit, and a Soviet-
Angolan Su-20-unit."
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:54am On Oct 30, 2013
forumcitizens: The Nigerian Army.
Yes,the Nigerian army lacks experience,quality equipment,weapons industry to back them plus an air force to protect their heads.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:19am On Oct 30, 2013
agaugust:


south african military has never fought against 99% of nigerian military weapons.

show me source as proof where south african army fought war against these nigerian weapons :

Vickers Main Battle Tank
Cobra APC
APR-40 Rockets launchers
Bofors Haubit Artillery
Plamaria Mobile Artillery
Swingfire Anti-tank Missile
Otomat Anti-ship missile
ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft
F-7 jet with PL-9C Missile range 22km equal to Gripen Jet Iris or A-Darta Missile
Type 056 Stealth Warship
Mi-35 Hind helicopter gunship
Roland Anti-aircraft Missile
High Altitude Spy Balloons
Spy satellites in space, which nigeria has but south africa has NONE !

you think nigeria is like burundi or mozambique ?

you are a big time buffoon...a complete Papa Ajasco grin

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FACTS ONLY!!!!!..
"The First Ambush
On the afternoon of 27 September 1985, around
1600hrs, a signal from a SAAF or UNITA
reconnaissance team posted near the Cuito
Cuanavale airfield was received at Rundu,
informing the South Africans about two Mi-24s
getting airborne and turning towards the combat
zone. Immediately, the Impalas were scrambled
to intercept.
Almost half an hour later, the wingman of the
second pair, Maj. Pine Pienaar, sighted the
helicopters above him, underway at
approximately 700m. Being in the more
favourable position for an attack, Pienaar -
imitated a climb towards the rear Mi-24, reached
a position above it and attacked. A burst of fire
from cannons hit the rear fuselage of the Mi-24,
causing fire. The helicopter started to dive and
the pilot initiated a controlled descent, firing all
his unguided rockets off before jettisoning all
containers for these in order to make his machine
lighter.
Meanwhile, the leader of the Impala-pair, Capt.
Leone Mare, attacked the second helicopter that
initiated a steep descent. Mare began a quarter
attack approaching from bellow and the side. The
Soviet pilot turned through 180° and was in nose-
down attitude, continuing to descent. Capt. Mare
opened fire from a range of 500m, pulling 4-5 gs
and firing 19 rounds that hit the starboard
fuselage of the target, bellow the main rotor gear
box. A panel separated from the Mi-24, the nose
of the helicopter suddenly dropped directly
towards the ground and rotor blades separated
under the stress.. The Hind then turned, going
into a tail slide, hit the ground and exploded.
Meanwhile, Maj. Pienaar repositioned for a second
attack on his target and opened fire. Rotor blades
separated and the helicopter crashed into the
ground nose-high, exploding on impact. Both
Impalas immediately dropped on a low altitude in
order to evade any potential MiGs, and escaped
back to Rundu without any further incidents."
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 1:10pm On Oct 30, 2013
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:15pm On Oct 30, 2013
GORE gory details of last week’s Boko Haram attacks on Damaturu, the Yobe State capital, emerged yesterday. No fewer than 128 people were killed, it was learnt.

Military and hospital reports indicated to Associated Press (AP) that 23 soldiers, eight policemen and 95 insurgents were killed in the five-hour long battle between the Islamic extremists and troops.

There has been no specific figure given by the military on the casualty , but the latest findings showed that the militants had a strong hand and caught troops by surprise.

The attack came after a lull and almost six months after the federal government imposed a state of emergency in Yobe along with Borno and Adamawa states.

Reporters saw that the extremists set ablaze four police command posts and an army barracks where they looted vehicles and weapons.

Police and witnesses said at least two civilians died — a man believed killed by the insurgents and a civil servant shot by soldiers for breaking the curfew.

Also yesterday, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees UNHCR) urged neigbouring countries to keep their borders open for Nigerians fleeing the escalating violence and who may be in need of international protection.

The Geneva-based agency also advised states against forced return of people to the region.

Spokesperson Dan McNorton told reporters: “Our recommendations are contained in a newly issued Return Advisory, which seeks to ensure that humanitarian and asylum principles are upheld in light of the worsening security situation in northeastern Nigeria.”
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MiguelMi6(m): 7:15pm On Oct 30, 2013
I just love how you dissect information here.its powerful and highly constructive.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:09pm On Oct 30, 2013
Mike..ZA:
You really need a brain.

Seek help fast! You are doing yourself no good! cool cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:13pm On Oct 30, 2013
forumcitizens: The Nigerian Army.

Very short and crisp!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:10am On Oct 31, 2013
Mike..ZA:
Yes,the Nigerian army lacks experience,quality equipment,weapons industry to back them plus an air force to protect their heads.

you are now crowned as the Papa Ajasco of nairaland grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:12am On Oct 31, 2013
Mike..ZA:
FACTS ONLY!!!!!..
"The First Ambush
On the afternoon of 27 September 1985, around
1600hrs, a signal from a SAAF or UNITA
reconnaissance team posted near the Cuito
Cuanavale airfield was received at Rundu,
informing the South Africans about two Mi-24s
getting airborne and turning towards the combat
zone. Immediately, the Impalas were scrambled
to intercept.
Almost half an hour later, the wingman of the
second pair, Maj. Pine Pienaar, sighted the
helicopters above him, underway at
approximately 700m. Being in the more
favourable position for an attack, Pienaar -
imitated a climb towards the rear Mi-24, reached
a position above it and attacked. A burst of fire
from cannons hit the rear fuselage of the Mi-24,
causing fire. The helicopter started to dive and
the pilot initiated a controlled descent, firing all
his unguided rockets off before jettisoning all
containers for these in order to make his machine
lighter.
Meanwhile, the leader of the Impala-pair, Capt.
Leone Mare, attacked the second helicopter that
initiated a steep descent. Mare began a quarter
attack approaching from bellow and the side. The
Soviet pilot turned through 180° and was in nose-
down attitude, continuing to descent. Capt. Mare
opened fire from a range of 500m, pulling 4-5 gs
and firing 19 rounds that hit the starboard
fuselage of the target, bellow the main rotor gear
box. A panel separated from the Mi-24, the nose
of the helicopter suddenly dropped directly
towards the ground and rotor blades separated
under the stress.. The Hind then turned, going
into a tail slide, hit the ground and exploded.
Meanwhile, Maj. Pienaar repositioned for a second
attack on his target and opened fire. Rotor blades
separated and the helicopter crashed into the
ground nose-high, exploding on impact. Both
Impalas immediately dropped on a low altitude in
order to evade any potential MiGs, and escaped
back to Rundu without any further incidents."


cut short these long stories.....tell us, did south africa win that war against tiny cuba island ?

answer simple yes or no
grin cheesy shocked tongue




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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:37am On Oct 31, 2013
zaandrew:

Only 2 countries use the vikers and both are african. It simlare it abliety to a T55.

The cobra is nothing to say OMG about. If you can take out a BMP you can take our a cobra

APR 40 is a BM21 coppy witch we took out with WW2 QF25 pounders

Your bofors 77 are in storage according to reconised sources.

Noted but is irelent in the grand scheme since it is badly out classed

Swing fire was good 20 years ago
Ottmat is well with in the target range of a umkhonto

You have 2 of them or 4 if you includ those in civlian hands. They all so not any thing speciol

It a MIG 21 copy and the PL9 is a export model PL8 witch is a lisnienced python 3 AAM. We have python 3 AAMs meaning we have the seeker head of your AAM all ready and no it's limtastion.

Your chinness OPV are nothing to brag about and we never had nearly has good frigats in the 70s and 80s

Mi 35 is just a upgraded Mi24 both are hinds. We fought against Mi 24s built a supper hind(better than a Mi35) and still a supper hind. Most of our rooivalk piolts have flown both there chopper and the supper hind.

We fought against russian rqulvents and in great numbers.

We fought against a USSR backed angola and cuba who know a lot more about spy satlites. All so you "spy ballons" and satlits have not saved the hundreds of civlians that BH kill. And don't say they hide among civlians. BH drives in to towns with force.



You thing nigeria is any difrent from the rest of west africa?

you must be drunk with locally made alcohol grin

T-55 is a russian made 1958 tank. Vickers MK 3 is british made 1978 tank with bigger gun/firepower and heavier armour than T-55

Cobra is a very modern armoured vehicle and with speed faster than all the old vehicles cuba that south africa fought against in angola bush war, it is good in its roles as a high speed light APC with amphibious capability to swim across a river.

Bofors Haubit artillery is NOT in storage, quote your fake source for us to read, the Bofors Haubits were displayed publicly this year nigerian army day celebrations and posted many times on this forum. fool grin

APR-40 range is 45km with modern targeting systems, BM 21-GRAD is an old rocket artillery with 20km standard range. only a fool like south africans will always call one weapon a copy of another without thinking of the new weapons technical specifications.

fool, the R-4 rifle you all carry in south african army is a copy of Galil rifle which is a copy of old russian AK-47 rifle, so your SANDF rifle is bad because it is a copy grin

south african olifant tank is a re-welded steel piece of the ancient british made centurion tank, with same old engine grin

south african Gripen jet is a copy of 1955 swedish Draken jet, FACT proved with sources !!

MiG 21 Lancer is NOT same as F-7 Airguard, the names are different, and MiG is russian product with russian engine, while F-7 is chinese product with chinese engine. also MiG 21 Lancer does NOT carry PL-9C missile of the F-7 jet.

i dont care what you say, PL-9C missile of nigeria is equal to IRIS-T or A-Darta missile of south africa, both are basically the same level of technology, speed and range.

nigeria alone can mount a naval and air blockade of the whole of west africa and the 15 countries there in one day with our 50 jets and 300 warships/gunboats. FACT !!

south africa has never fought against a navy that has anti-ship missiles like nigerian Otomat missiles.

NNS Aradu Otomat anti-ship missile will sink the whole south african navy to sea bottom in one day. FACT !

you still have not grown from being a navy cook/chef into a real combatant grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:52am On Oct 31, 2013
Mike..ZA:
I'll hit your blue balls so hard. South Africa faced the APR-40 rocket launchers,during the 1970s period of the war,some were captured inspiring SA designs. Your ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance craft and Nigeria only has one. The F7 I proved it to you that it is a chinese copy of the MIG-21,which SAAF downed in Angola. The Soviet Union had spy satellites focused on South Africa,they even detected an area meant for a nuclear test. I won't talk about artillery cause the G5,G6 and G7 are the best in world,Nigeria has nothing to counter them. SANDF can take anything Nigeria can throw at !!! Check this quote about the MI-24/35. "Angolan Air Force in 1985
In preparation for this offensive the Angolan Air
Force – FAPA-DAA – was reinforced by supplies of
soome 20 MiG-21bis, ten Su-20s, as well as
approximately 30 Mi-25s and Mi-8s. The Angolan
Air Force was – especially for African
circumstances – a modern, battle-proven and
actually a self-sufficient force, with 7.000
personnel and some 180 aircraft and helicopters,
organized in six regiments, of which three were to
participate in the operation, including two
equipped with fighter-bombers and one with
combat helicopters. At the time these three units
have nominally controlled five squadrons, but for
their participation in the Second Congress each
has got at least one additional unit. The helicopter
regiment operated a Soviet-manned squadron of
Mi-24s, a Cuban-manned squadron of Mi-35s, and
a “mixed”, Soviet/Cuban/Angolan-manned
squadron of Mi-8s and Mi-17s; one fighter
regiment has had two Cuban-manned squadrons
of MiG-21s, and an Angolan MiG-21 unit, while the
other had a Soviet-manned “special” MiG-21
squadron, an Angolan MiG-17-unit, and a Soviet-
Angolan Su-20-unit."

nigeria has four ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft and south africa has NOTHING equal to such a modern maritime military aircraft, go d.i.e of envy tongue

also nigerian airforce has about five G-222 maritime patrol aircraft supporting the ATR-42.

see electronics inside the Nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor below....and go d.i.e of envy....jump in front of a moving Train on the nearest Railway line tongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:59am On Oct 31, 2013
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 5:59am On Oct 31, 2013
agaugust:

you must be drunk with locally made alcohol grin

T-55 is a russian made 1958 tank. Vickers MK 3 is british made 1978 tank with bigger gun/firepower and heavier armour than T-55

Cobra is a very modern armoured vehicle and with speed faster than all the old vehicles cuba that south africa fought against in angola bush war, it is good in its roles as a high speed light APC with amphibious capability to swim across a river.

Bofors Haubit artillery is NOT in storage, quote your fake source for us to read, the Bofors Haubits were displayed publicly this year nigerian army day celebrations and posted many times on this forum. fool grin

APR-40 range is 45km with modern targeting systems, BM 21-GRAD is an old rocket artillery with 20km standard range. only a fool like south africans will always call one weapon a copy of another without thinking of the new weapons technical specifications.

fool, the R-4 rifle you all carry in south african army is a copy of Galil rifle which is a copy of old russian AK-47 rifle, so your SANDF rifle is bad because it is a copy grin

south african olifant tank is a re-welded steel piece of the ancient british made centurion tank, with same old engine grin

south african Gripen jet is a copy of 1955 swedish Draken jet, FACT proved with sources !!

MiG 21 Lancer is NOT same as F-7 Airguard, the names are different, and MiG is russian product with russian engine, while F-7 is chinese product with chinese engine. also MiG 21 Lancer does NOT carry PL-9C missile of the F-7 jet.

i dont care what you say, PL-9C missile of nigeria is equal to IRIS-T or A-Darta missile of south africa, both are basically the same level of technology, speed and range.

nigeria alone can mount a naval and air blockade of the whole of west africa and the 15 countries there in one day with our 50 jets and 300 warships/gunboats. FACT !!

south africa has never fought against a navy that has anti-ship missiles like nigerian Otomat missiles.

NNS Aradu Otomat anti-ship missile will sink the whole south african navy to sea bottom in one day. FACT !

you still have not grown from being a navy cook/chef into a real combatant grin

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Just because it is new does not mean it is better. The vikkers uses the Same L7 105mm has was fited in the 1950s. T54/55 has 100mm frontal armour 80mm side armour. Vickers has 80mm on the front and 40mm on the side. Source is janes fighting vechlies.

Again new is not alll ways better. Any case it must stop to shoot like, it armour is no stronger. Basicaly a cobra is not a war winner. It is rather basic APC these days.

SA displays and fiers G2 guns every year and they still listed on our books. Any case they may have been reverbeshed. It is of no conzern. Non of nigerias Arty is any thing to brag about.

APR40 fires the same rockets that a BM21 fires. Same rockets. There is no diffrence between rockets. Only in the truck that carrys the launcher. And that 40km is a exdended range version than a BM21 can fire.

And the AK101 is a copy of the AK47. The AK47 is a great wepaon the galil fix certain problems to make it even better. Are you saying a beatel is the same has a porchey now.


The fact you say the use the same engien show you are a fool. There is vere littel that is the same with them. Must I post a pic of the 2 again.

Did not say they the exact air craft. Only that you can bring a mig21 up to the same standard of a J7 a mig21 copy.

Only a Adarter can perform a 100g turn a PL9 a 40g turn. And yes it is good. But we have the seaker heads.

West africa is not a challnge.

The correct term is never fired on by a SSM like a ottomat. And only because they never saw us.

Please stope peddling this bull. It has been debucked so many times.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 6:01am On Oct 31, 2013
agaugust:
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Since when did money equal power? Is he more power full than obama?
Maybe he can bail out your broke defence force.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 6:22am On Oct 31, 2013
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agaugust:

nigeria has four ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft and south africa has NOTHING equal to such a modern maritime military aircraft, go d.i.e of envy tongue

also nigerian airforce has about five G-222 maritime patrol aircraft supporting the ATR-42.

see electronics inside the Nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor below....and go d.i.e of envy....jump in front of a moving Train on the nearest Railway line tongue

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Your air force has 2. The others are not milltary.

The ATR42 is good. But we not jelouses of it by a long shot. The dakotas may be old. But they have been modnized many times.

The G222 of Naf are transport not patrol.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:26am On Oct 31, 2013
zaandrew:

Since when did money equal power? Is he more power full than obama?
Maybe he can bail out your broke defence force.

No. He should bail out your broke and grounded SAAF, and retrain your 6 gripen pilots.


Nigeria also operates up-graded T-72's, not only vickers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 8:29am On Oct 31, 2013
Henry120:

No. He should bail out your broke and grounded SAAF, and retrain your 6 gripen pilots.


Nigeria also operates up-graded T-72's, not only vickers.

The air force received a boost from the fiance minster. We all so have a total of 18 qulfied gripen pilots with 6 quified piolts in 2 squdron at any one time.



Augaster only menstioned vikers. So I only talked about them. All so the T72s are not a threat.

Now the nigerian defence minstry is broke.

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2013/10/defence-ministry-is-broke-grapples-with-budget-appropriation-reduction/


You guys are just a nother bannana republic.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Oct 31, 2013
zaandrew:

Since when did money equal power? Is he more power full than obama?
Maybe he can bail out your broke defence force.

it is called Nigeria Armed Forces. Just as Britain do not call their Defence forece but British Armed Forces.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:28pm On Oct 31, 2013
agaugust:

you are now crowned as the Papa Ajasco of nairaland grin

Let's talk facts. If tell you something you better counter it with real facts/information not this bad jokes.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:33pm On Oct 31, 2013
agaugust:


cut short these long stories.....tell us, did south africa win that war against tiny cuba island ?

answer simple yes or no
grin cheesy shocked tongue




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South Africa knows the capabilities of almost half of your arsenal,we destroyed/captured large quantities them.......Asking that shows you're stu'pid,you don't understand the complexity of that war. Cuba was supplied with the best or newest soviet of weapons. All they ever needed was troops.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:42pm On Oct 31, 2013
agaugust:

nigeria has four ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft and south africa has NOTHING equal to such a modern maritime military aircraft, go d.i.e of envy tongue

also nigerian airforce has about five G-222 maritime patrol aircraft supporting the ATR-42.

see electronics inside the Nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor below....and go d.i.e of envy....jump in front of a moving Train on the nearest Railway line tongue

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The South African navy is most advanced in AFRICA. That maritime surveillance air craft is not helping with curbing piracy. Those electronics are not used for Electronic warfare,stuff like listening and jamming radars and communication.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:48pm On Oct 31, 2013
zaandrew:

Since when did money equal power? Is he more power full than obama?
Maybe he can bail out your broke defence force.
Speaking of Obama. There's actually a school in Nigeria named Barrack Obama.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 8:54pm On Oct 31, 2013
Henry120:

No. He should bail out your broke and grounded SAAF, and retrain your 6 gripen pilots.


Nigeria also operates up-graded T-72's, not only vickers.
Saab trained 6 Gripen pilots for SAAF. Most graduated in SA with,SAAF even has the first female Gripen pilot. South Africa was ready to fight a force equipped with those T-72s,Cuba had them in Angola.

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