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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:41pm On Nov 01, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi:

You are dealing with a CrazyPig who thrives on slime and dirt.

Fact-based dirt and slime nonetheless. Nothing that can be successfully challenged. Not a single lie have I uttered.

Just painful facts about your hapless military.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:44pm On Nov 01, 2013
Lest we forget - the uselessness of the Naai-gerian military:


http://allafrica.com/stories/201311010974.html

Nigerian Army Shoot Own Refugees At Border, Cameroon Blamed


Maroua — Cameroonian gendarme Gaitan Atouba was stunned when the Nigerian military opened fire on more than 100 Nigerian refugees under his protection, killing 15 and seriously wounding seven in the northeast Nigerian border town of Banki earlier this month.

Atouba and his fellow officers had been ordered to round up refugees in the town of Amchide in Cameroon's Far North region and hand them over to the Nigerian border authorities in Banki for questioning about their possible involvement with the rebel Islamist sect Boko Haram.

Around 8,300 Nigerians, fleeing both attacks by Boko Haram and the heavy-handed response of the security forces in northern Nigeria, have crossed into Cameroon's Far North since Nigerian President Jonathan Goodluck declared a state of emergency in June.

The Cameroon government believes Boko Haram members have infiltrated Cameroon posing as refugees, and are using it as a safe haven to launch attacks into Nigeria as part of their drive to establish an independent state based on sharia (Islamic law) in largely Muslim northeast Nigeria. Hundreds have been killed in Boko Haram attacks and fighting between the group and Nigerian security forces in recent months.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 6:45pm On Nov 01, 2013
zaandrew:

What you think droping bombs on techncals is0any difrent than droping bombs at a range. So your point is what again.

And SAAF orxy choppers have been flying in DRC for years. Including night operastion somthing other nastions there do not do.

If you are going to hold up to your claims that your airforce is operational for much longer than ours(the claim you make) show proof, not budget numbers cause there is clear documented evidence of the operational activities of ours in the last few years.Evidence also exist that suggests that your air bosses cannot keep your jets, helios and pilots flying to be battle ready,or should we start digging out the links again. undecided undecided
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 6:58pm On Nov 01, 2013
Burnt by BH - a Naai-gerian APC. cry

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:00pm On Nov 01, 2013
Burnt by BH - Naai-gerian army barracks. cry

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:03pm On Nov 01, 2013
Burnt by Boko Haram - police station. undecided

Call it dirt. Call it slime. But fact-based it forever will be.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:07pm On Nov 01, 2013
CraigB: Burnt by BH - a Naai-gerian APC. cry

actually it was burnt by the nigerian security forces since BH stole it and went on a joy ride.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:09pm On Nov 01, 2013
andrewza:

actually it was burnt by the nigerian security forces since BH stole it and went on a joy ride.

Shame on Naai-geria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:06pm On Nov 01, 2013
swanky@vodamail:
that's a lie as of august Nigeria has 46 billion dollars in reserve and they lost 1.8 billion at the same time due to the deprecetion of the Naira while SOuth Africa had 53 billion dollars in reserve so please stop lying to us and to the nigerian community

hey dummy, we also have billions in yuans which when added to the dollar reserve, is more than 50 billion
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:32pm On Nov 01, 2013
rka1:

Just to show what a BH sympathiser you are.

actually his likes are also preparing for something bigger. to wage a racial war in SA, so it's only right he gives extremists groups his best support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I07ccym4Vs
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 01, 2013
CraigB: Burnt by BH - a Naai-gerian APC. cry

What were you expecting to see............. A tea party? You are extremely foolish, you already know that abi?

It's called an insurgency. That is why were are here in this thread, discussing military related topics.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Nov 01, 2013
andrewza:

actually it was burnt by the nigerian security forces since BH stole it and went on a joy ride.

Fool, you were among the terrorists who stole it right?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:50pm On Nov 01, 2013
CraigB:

Shame on Naai-geria.

no. shame on your lying dirty brain that your fellow countryman exposed your ignorance. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:52pm On Nov 01, 2013
zaandrew:

Saaf has a higher operasniol budget. So how is that false.

There is air support. Rooivalk were sent.


Back in augast when the fighting was taking place the FIB was not operastional hence no air support.

You shitless liar, your rooivalk is still sitting in south-africa. SANDF have done absolutely nothing in DRC. There is absolutely no independent record anywhere of you hiv ridden SANDF even lifting a tooth-pick in DRC. None
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:03pm On Nov 01, 2013
agaugust:

your male Gripen jet pilots cannot fly with guarantee, you are now talking about female Gripen jet pilot, that must be the cook/chef that prepares food for the real pilots...i mean the half pilots that you have grin

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gringringringrin. Bros, they got only 6 gripen pilots. All there augusta helicopters are grounded, the gripens are in a fridge. Their roviaalk sub-standard helicopter, nobody wants, is still lying in soweto. It would most likely be deployed to DRC when all combat engagements are done with, and serious nations like tanzania have withdrawn their troops. Then the r*tards would come here and claim that the piece of shit saw action in DRC.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:22pm On Nov 01, 2013
The uselessness of the Naai-gerian military reposted.

Burnt by BH - Naai-gerian APC.

Rubbish army, this.


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In this photo taken with a mobile phone on Monday, Oct. 28, 2013, police look down on a burnt out army personal carrier following an attack by Boko Haram in in Damaturu, Nigeria. Nigerian military and hospital reports indicate a 5-hour-long battle between Islamic extremists and troops in the capital of Nigeria’s Yobe state last Thursday and Friday killed at least 90 militants, 23 soldiers and eight police officers. (AP Photo)

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http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/ap/ap/top-news/islamic-attack-128-dead-in-nigeria-state-capital/nbbnp/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:27pm On Nov 01, 2013
The useless Naai-gerian military does not have a handle on the situation. Violence rises in the North. Naai-gerians suffer. Brawn...maybe. Brains? Not a chance! cry

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=46361&Cr=nigeria&Cr1=


Amid rising violence, UN agency advises against forced returns to north-east Nigeria


29 October 2013 – The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is calling on States to keep their borders open for Nigerians fleeing the escalating violence in their country and who may be in need of international protection.

The Geneva-based agency is also advising States against forced returns of people to the region, spokesperson Dan McNorton told reporters.

“Our recommendations are contained in a newly issued Return Advisory, which seeks to ensure that humanitarian and asylum principles are upheld in light of the worsening security situation in north-eastern Nigeria,” he stated.

Conflict between the Nigerian army and insurgents in the north-eastern states of Adamawa, Borno and Yobe has led to deteriorating security and humanitarian conditions in the region, which has been under a state of emergency since May.

According to UNHCR, violence is estimated to have displaced an estimated 5,000 people within the region, but as humanitarian access has been hampered by the attacks, the agency believes the actual number of people affected could be significantly higher.

Some 10,000 Nigerians have also crossed into neighbouring Cameroon, Chad and Niger in recent months. Most – around 8,100 – have sought refuge in Cameroon, according to local authorities who say that Nigerians are continuing to arrive. The number of Nigerian refugees in Niger is 2,700, and in Chad 150.

Mr. McNorton said UNHCR has been “alarmed” by reports of the attempted forced return of 111 people from Cameroon to Nigeria on 5 October, during which 15 people were killed and another seven wounded. The remaining 89 individuals immediately fled back to Cameroon and were detained.

“UNHCR is working with the Government of Cameroon to assess whether there are people in the group in need of international protection,” said Mr. McNorton.

He noted that in light of the security situation in north-eastern Nigeria, people fleeing are likely to meet the criteria for refugee status as outlined in international treaties.

UNHCR said its Return Advisory will remain in effect until the security and human rights situation in north-eastern Nigeria has improved sufficiently to permit a safe and dignified return.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:31pm On Nov 01, 2013
Having disparaged CameroonPride for months, Naai-gerians are now at the mercy and grace of Cameroon - thanks to their own ineffective and prone-to-unnecessary-trigger-happiness military. Oh, the irony!


Naai-geria and CAR causing problems for Cameroon. cry

http://allafrica.com/stories/201310301260.html


Yaounde — Cameroon is grappling with the influx of over a hundred thousand refugees from neighbouring Central African Republic (CAR) and Nigeria, whose presence is causing tensions with the local population.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:36pm On Nov 01, 2013
Naai-gerian refugees now a problem for Africa. cry

The so-called giant of Africa exports refugees. Naai-geria's military is all but nullified outside Naai-geria. They couldn't wage a war against Swaziland at this point. cry

http://omojuwa.com/2013/10/un-appeals-to-africa-on-nigerian-refugees/

UN Appeals to Africa on Nigerian Refugees


The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is calling on States to keep their borders open for Nigerians fleeing the escalating violence in their country and who may be in need of international protection.
The Geneva-based agency is also advising States against forced returns of people to the region, spokesperson Dan McNorton told reporters.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 11:43pm On Nov 01, 2013
Henry120: gringringringrin. Bros, they got only 6 gripen pilots. All there augusta helicopters are grounded, the gripens are in a fridge. Their roviaalk sub-standard helicopter, nobody wants, is still lying in soweto. It would most likely be deployed to DRC when all combat engagements are done with, and serious nations like tanzania have withdrawn their troops. Then the r*tards would come here and claim that the piece of shit saw action in DRC.

actually, the fight is over. Congolese army have taken M23 last stronghold. so once again their roviaak is useless. they were busy painting the scrap when the fighting was intense grin.

just watch as the fake attorney grin will cry "we are still in DRC" as if they led or sponsored the mission grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:47pm On Nov 01, 2013
The abilities of the Naai-gerian military in doubt, as Algeria sows more division in the "giant of Africa" (small letter "g" ). shocked It's the absence of brains. Not that of guns.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201310100347.html

Africa: Worsening Violence in Northern Nigeria Reveals Echoes of Algeria and AQIM

Boko Haram's recent, deadly attack on the agricultural college in Gujba, Yobe State has raised some difficult and urgent questions for the Nigerian federal authorities and international community. The most pressing - how and why did this happen - quickly give way to more substantive concerns about the efficacy of the security forces and their counter-terrorism campaign.

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[b]"Indeed, it must be remembered that these assaults were launched in a period of unprecedented security effort. President Jonathan's declaration of a state of emergency in the three northern states of Adamawa, Borno and Yobe in June this year signalled both the Federal Government's determination and desperation. In making it, Jonathan not only admitted that Boko Haram was a much more serious problem than Abuja had previously owned up to, but that Nigeria was now a failed state since there were parts of the north that lay beyond the Federal Government's direct control".lipsrsealed


This declaration also carried significant political risks for President Jonathan personally. For in addition to conceding that Nigeria had failed on his watch, he granted extraordinary powers to a military with a long history of overthrowing civilian governments and added further fuel to the already incendiary debate about his ability as a southerner to adequately deal with this very northern problem. cry


Despite the extraordinary efforts of the security forces, Boko Haram appears unbowed and its campaign undimmed. Since its renaissance following the near terminal battle of Maiduguri in the summer of 2009, the group has been on an upward trajectory. Over the past three years it has embraced ever more ambitious goals (from encouraging northern Muslims to live more piously to turning Nigeria into an Islamic state), extended its area of operations (attacking targets as far south as Abuja), lengthened its list of targets (there is now no-one it is not prepared to kill), and developed its operational capabilities (its 2011 assault on the UN was the first suicide bombing ever carried out in the country). undecided cry cry[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:45am On Nov 02, 2013
CraigB:

You don't know what my education level is. That argument alone exposes your delusions.

But seeing as you asked, I'm a qualified attorney with an LLM and an MBA. I work and live in the US where I'm on temporary assignment.

All your rubbish is immediately apparent to me. You've been in Austin to see the military headquarters but that's about it. You don't live here and your arguments prove it. I live in Texas and you can't tell me anything and you can't lie it me about "working for a military research company" here. That's rubbish.

You wish you were educated but unfortunately, you aren't.

Accounting is not finance. You made a finance argument and called it accounting. You claim to have an MBA, yet you don't know the difference between finance and accounting.

As for your claims to American citizenship - argument for another day.

wow ! you are the dumbest 'lawyer' i have ever come across.

you wont even win a case against a high school drop out that is smart grin

anyway, all accountants study a course from 100 level to 400 level called FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING.

in what field is your MBA ? i dare you to answer..... grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:48am On Nov 02, 2013
CraigB:

I'm a qualified attorney with an LLM and an MBA. I work and live in the US where I'm on temporary assignment.

You don't live here and your arguments prove it. I live in Texas and you can't tell me anything and you can't lie it me about "working for a military research company" here. That's rubbish.

you live in america ? lol grin

what are the first 3 basic things that can be easily used to differentiate a native american white man from a non-native american white man ?

i dare you to answer again grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 3:01am On Nov 02, 2013
agaugust:

wow ! you are the dumbest 'lawyer' i have ever come across.

you wont even win a case against a high school drop out that is smart grin

anyway, all accountants study a course from 100 level to 400 level called FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING.

in what field is your MBA ? i dare you to answer..... grin

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Now, if I didn't know any better, I'd think your post cute. grin But I do know better; and cute it's not. You DARE me to answer! Hahaha grin Ok, Mr Fakeman. You do realise being a dumb real lawyer is better than being a fake and dumb MBA/Accountant/Researcher/God-knows-what-else.

And you don't get to practise law and get admitted as an attorney in two countries by being one with dumbness. Well, one country and two states in the US - so, three jurisdictions smiley. Many a case I have won and many a case I have lost too. But debate is always according to set rules and you take it like you give it. Not that you'd know anything about the rules of evidence and enquiry. It's like pitting a street brawler against a boxer (assuming you have some understanding in you, you will find profoundness in this and humble yourself grin).

Now, let me give you some trivia, Fakeman. The MBA was crafted around the law school concept. While law students study precedent setting cases, business students study business cases. It's aways been meant to be a generalists's degree - not a specialist's. Variations of the degree by industry are still close to the original concept, but variation by discipline (e.g. accounting are not what was intended).

Anyway, my MBA is the true MBA. The managers and the generalist's degree. I did everything a manager should have an idea about. Examples: Managerial Finance, Operational Finance, Managerial Accounting, Strategy, Operational Management, Organisational design, Information Management and so on. (An MBA who says he's studied bean counting as part of the programme is talking rubbish - that's you lipsrsealed). A manager needn't know how to be a bean counter - only the ability to ask the right questions is required). Just a few credits to help you understand what I'm talking about. I did 42 credits altogether - and topped that up with a thorough research report.

We will leave you US claims for another day.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 3:10am On Nov 02, 2013
agaugust:

you live in america ? lol grin

what are the first 3 basic things that can be easily used to differentiate a native american white man from a non-native american white man ?

i dare you to answer again grin

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Now I won't play this rubbish game. We both know you don't live in the US, so spare me. You do know that "non-native white man" encompasses the English, Russians, Italians, South Africans, the French, the Germans, the Swedes - divergent groups. From that perspective, your question is stupid. And just because you aspire to be American while you sit in Abuja doesn't mean everyone wants or cares to pass off as an American.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:53am On Nov 02, 2013
Henry120:

Fool, you were among the terrorists who stole it right?

what you talking about? the entire sequence of the battle was released by your government.

The hit the army, burnt barracks and stole the APC they then went on a spree attack the police stations when they hit the mobile police they abandon the APC because it was on fire(and i doubt they would light there own ride on fire), they then attacked a hospital, stole meds and escaped with a ambulance
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:00am On Nov 02, 2013
Henry120:

You shitless liar, your rooivalk is still sitting in south-africa. SANDF have done absolutely nothing in DRC. There is absolutely no independent record anywhere of you hiv ridden SANDF even lifting a tooth-pick in DRC. None

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32208&catid=74&Itemid=30

http://www.africandefence.net/drones-and-rooivalk-to-the-drc/

http://www.africandefence.net/analysis-how-m23-was-rolled-back/


Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by swankyvodamail: 5:02am On Nov 02, 2013
chris365:

hey dummy, we also have billions in yuans which when added to the dollar reserve, is more than 50 billion
You can call me whatever you want,FACT your lies have been exposed you can try to spin all you want fact is as of August SA have more dollars in reserve than Nigeria
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by swankyvodamail: 5:06am On Nov 02, 2013
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:18am On Nov 02, 2013
swanky@vodamail:
Beast of the beast you can see it it kick butt probably the world best. AH in the world I salute you SA engineers

Half-French south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship, never tested in any battle, never killed one single cockroach since the day it was made grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:28am On Nov 02, 2013
swanky@vodamail:
You can call me whatever you want,FACT your lies have been exposed you can try to spin all you want fact is as of August SA have more dollars in reserve than Nigeria

nigeria has more dollar reserves than south africa, i proved that with many sources yesterday. swallow it, bitter truth for you grin

by the way, south african $55 billion foreign reserve is almost totally swallowed up by south african $50 billion foreign debt, south africa's over-rated economy is very weak in real accounting terms....reason your air force is cash starved and jets/helicopters are mostly grounded.....they only fly inside @THIZA's nairaland photos grin


[size=16pt]IMF issues warning on South African economy[/size]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/01/imf-issues-warning-on-south-african-economy/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:28am On Nov 02, 2013
agaugust:

Half-French south african Rooivalk helicopter gunship, never tested in any battle, never killed one single cockroach since the day it was made grin

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Where does the half french come in to this, that like saying the M1 is half german. Not to menstion the M1 had 10 plus years of zero combat before it,s debut yet everyone knew it was good long before 1991. So your point is what that you are a slowpoke. We all ready knew that.

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