djo120920:


Thank you for your response.

I am open to suggestions at the moment.

I did Mass Comm at both BA and MA level.
So I think English is the most obviously logical option.

However, I would actually love to teach Mathematics, as I believe I'm quite good in it. Had A1 in Maths in WAEC, NECO, and GCE. But I don't know if my degrees will not shut the door on that.

Primary? Secondary? Anyone is good for me.

Thank you again

STENON:
Based on your degree, I think English is the best option for you.
You stand a better chance at secondary than primary level

nihilistjnr:


The bolded is a weak argument, because the UK does not practice Jus Soli. There are many children born to non-naturalised immigrants here who have never been to their parents countries and dont have their passports. That still doesnt give them the right to stay here.

The only argument that you have is that Shemima was born to Bengali parents who acquired a British Passport - and Ijust as it was given, it can be taken away. I admit that a white british terrorist of a single nationality has to be let back in, but I guess that's the privilege of being from here. Na their right be that

Shemima's parents came to the UK, they were not born here. They chose to leave their own mostly muslim country and applied to live with the British and to become British. They agreed to abide by the rules and probably spent at least 10 years convincing the British that they could abide by the laws of the land. The British then awarded them the privilege of citizenship...and it's a privilege not a right because the Begums had to earn it. They literally had to stand up in front of the Queen's picture and swear allegiance to her

So if Shemima decides to leave the UK and return to a Muslim caliphate, it is entirely her prerogative. If she chooses to to pledge allegiance to a known enemy of the UK, it is her right to do so. But it is not her right to retain the citizenship that the country she hates gifted to her parents.
And the British have the right to withdraw their citizenship from immigrants who have betrayed that gift.

To argue otherwise as a Nigerian immigrant who knows why they came to the UK is unnecessary wokeness, and an insult to the millions of us looking for any opportunity to japa from Nigeria.

icon8:


If a white looking person says this, we will all scream racism, but alas, “we” are our own worst enemies.

Your post has no basis in law, just so you know. A child born on British soil to a settled parent is an automatic British citizen. As British as it gets. No matter where the parent came from, once they attain settled status, any children born of them afterwards is a British citizen at birth. That’s the law!

I’m not one to play the race card, but this case reeks of racism and islamophobia, and sets a very dangerous precedent like others have rightly suggested. It’s that Jihad-loving girl today but it could be anyone’s child tomorrow, for a far less crime. If the colour of her skin were to be white, she would have been treated differently. I denounce her and her association with the so-called Islamic State, but she’s British and should have been brought back home and tried in a British court, under British law, and sent to a British jail if found guilty. Not passed on to her parent’s birth country that she never had any connection to.

By your logic, because the PM’s father is Turkish (although born in the UK), the Johnson family should be sent to Turkey if they commit a crime, because according to you, the father’s father was not born here, they applied to live here blah blah blah, and are therefore second class British citizens. But you wouldn’t say that, would you? Why because they look white to you and the grandfather was clever to have changed his name from Osman Kemal to Wilfred Johnson. If the girl's name were to be Sharon Bellingham instead of Shemima Begum, you all will be singing a different tune.

Some of you are just full of inferiority complex and believe the white skin is superior to yours. As for me, my children are not second class to nobody in this land (and they know that). I may be second class, I understand that, and that’s fine because I’m a bloody immigrant. But my children and their children? No way! I’ve paid that price for them. Everyone’s parents came from somewhere, and it doesn’t matter how long ago. Even the Queen’s family came from Germany and changed their name to Windsor to sound British somewhere along the line. So was her husband Philip, who was Greek but also changed his name to appear English. But all that does not matter because they all look white to you?

You may gloat all you want about this case, but they are only starting with their discrimination, and the girl’s case was just the litmus test. Like someone said, the day they decide to revoke your children’s legitimate citizenship because their parents or parents’ parents were immigrants, you will understand what precedent means and why you should be careful what you wish for.

Enough of the rant. Back to work!

djo120920:


Thank you dear STENON.

I will take your suggestion. But I fear the market will be oversaturated with English teachers. What do you think? And what are the chances of gaining a job (leading to Tier 2 visa and ultimately ILR) with the QTS award?

My initial plan was to come study MSc Social Research and then go on to conduct academic research at the PhD level. I already got admission for that. But I also love teaching, especially in the classroom. And someone mooted the idea of the QTS to me. I'm about to start applying for that. Can you point me towards some universities that offer PGCE with QTS? I've seen a couple, like Reading, Coventry, and Kingston. I'd like to see if there are others as well.

Thank you again

icon8:


If a white-looking person says this, we will all be up in arms screaming racism. Alas, “we” seem to be our own worst enemies.

Your post has no basis in law, just so you know. A child born on British soil to a settled parent is an automatic British citizen. As British as it gets. No matter where the parent came from, once they attain settled status, any children born of them afterwards is a British citizen at birth. That’s the law!

I’m not one to play the race card, but this case reeks of racism and islamophobia, and sets a very dangerous precedent like others have rightly suggested. It’s that Jihad-loving girl today but it could be anyone’s child tomorrow, for a far less crime. If the colour of her skin were to be white, she would have been treated differently. I denounce her and her association with the so-called Islamic State, but she’s British and should have been brought back home and tried in a British court, under British law, and sent to a British jail if found guilty. Not passed on to her parent’s birth country that she never had any connection to.

By your logic, because the PM’s father is Turkish (although born in the UK), the Johnson family should be sent to Turkey if they commit a crime, because according to you, the father’s father was not born here, they applied to live here blah blah blah, and are therefore second class British citizens. But you wouldn’t say that, would you? Why because they look white to you and the grandfather was clever to have changed his name from Osman Kemal to Wilfred Johnson. If the girl's name were to be Sharon Bellingham instead of Shemima Begum, you all will be singing a different tune.

Some of you are just full of inferiority complex and believe the white skin is superior to yours. As for me, my children are not second class to nobody in this land (and they know that). I may be second class, I understand that, and that’s fine because I’m a bloody immigrant. But my children and their children? No way! I’ve paid that price for them. Everyone’s parents came from somewhere, and it doesn’t matter how long ago. Even the Queen’s family came from Germany and changed their name to Windsor to sound British somewhere along the line. So was her husband Philip, who was Greek but also changed his name to appear English. But all that does not matter because they all look white to you?

You may gloat all you want about this case, but they are only starting with their discrimination, and the girl’s case was just the litmus test. Like someone said, the day someone wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to revoke your children’s legitimate citizenship because their parents or parents’ parents were immigrants, you will understand what precedent means and why you should be careful what you wish for.

Enough of the rant. Back to work!

TheGuyFromHR:


Best comment I've read on this matter.

icon8:


If a white-looking person says this, we will all be up in arms screaming racism. Alas, “we” seem to be our own worst enemies.

Your post has no basis in law, just so you know. A child born on British soil to a settled parent is an automatic British citizen. As British as it gets. No matter where the parent came from, once they attain settled status, any child born of them afterwards is a British citizen at birth. That’s the law!

I’m not one to play the race card, but this case reeks of racism and islamophobia, and sets a very dangerous precedent like others have rightly suggested. It’s that Jihad-loving girl today but it could be anyone’s child tomorrow, for a far less crime. If the colour of her skin were to be white, she would have been treated differently. For the avoidance of doubt, I denounce her and her association with the so-called Islamic State, but she’s British and should have been brought back home and tried in a British court, under British law, and sent to a British jail if found guilty. Not passed on to her parent’s birth country that she never had any connection to.

By your logic, because the PM’s father is Turkish (although born in the UK), the Johnson family should be sent to Turkey if they commit a crime, because according to you, the father’s father was not born here, they applied to live here blah blah blah, and are therefore second class British citizens. But you wouldn’t say that, would you? Why because they look white to you and the grandfather was clever to have changed his name from Osman Kemal to Wilfred Johnson. If the girl's name were to be Sharon Bellingham instead of Shemima Begum, you all will be singing a different tune.

Some of you are just full of inferiority complex and believe the white skin is superior to yours. As for me, my children are not second class to nobody in this land (and they know that!). I may be second class, I understand that, and that’s fine because I’m a bloody immigrant. But my children and their children? No way! I’ve paid that price for them. Everyone’s parents came from somewhere, and it doesn’t matter how long ago. Even the Queen’s family came from Germany and changed their name to Windsor to sound British somewhere along the line. So was her husband Philip, who was Greek but also changed his name to appear English. But all that does not matter because they all look white to you?

You may gloat all you want about this case, but they are only starting with their discrimination, and the girl’s case was just the litmus test. Like someone said, the day someone wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to revoke your children’s legitimate citizenship because their parents or parents’ parents were immigrants, you will understand what precedent means and why you should be careful what you wish for.

Enough of the rant. Back to work!

justwise:


This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

wallg123:


Hope you are aware the UK did not just stripe her of her citizenship without the backing of the law. This decision was challenged in court and the decision was upheld. This has nothing to do with race or colour of your skin. This is not the Nigerian judiciary where all the judges can be bought and sold.

icon8:


Are you able to substantiate that claim and provide proof that Jack Letts’ citizenship was indeed revoked? Kindly point us to the official statement from the Home Office or any government agency to that effect. Official statement, please; not unsubstantiated tabloid rumours that no one has confirmed in an official capacity till date.

wallg123:


Hope you are aware the UK did not just stripe her of her citizenship without the backing of the law. This decision was challenged in court and the decision was upheld. This has nothing to do with race or colour of your skin. This is not the Nigerian judiciary where all the judges can be bought and sold.

justwise:


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49385376

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/jack-letts-stripped-british-citizenship-isis-canada

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/17/jihadi-jack-isis-fighter-stripped-british-citizenship-home-office/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/canada-disappointed-britain-stripping-isis-fighter-s-citizenship-n1043811

justwise:


This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

icon8:


Read my question again, but this time slowly.

I did not ask for news reportage (which was never confirmed officially). I asked for the announcement by the government.
Remember it was Sajid Javid himself (as Home Secretary) who announced the decision to revoke Shamima’s citizenship. No government official announced the revocation of Jack Letts’, only rumours in the newspapers that were never substantiated.

Divine88:

Mr Justwise these are two different cases. Jack has a dual citizenship (Canadian & British). As the Britons stripped him of their citizenship, have the Canadian done the same? No.
But this girl in question, only had the privilege of having a single citizenship.
Anyways I have said it several times on here. What will be will be!

LagosismyHome:


Both Jack Letts and Shemima have not properly challenged the UK Government in a court of law.... its until they do before it can be seen what exact legality or right did the home office have to do such

The Home office is probably just testing its powers know fully well it has no leg to stand on. ...(..Especially when in both cases even Canada said what UK did is rubbish and Bangladeshsaid she not their citizen ) .. we see that all the time, even with some HMRC Cases. Time will tell. What Shemima lost is not her case but a case to appeal the decision in person within the UK. She can put in a case to hear her appeal overseas.

justwise:


This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

justwise:


She has, more than once and lost

EddieMurphie:
Bourne007 put mouth for this matter na! I dey always gbadun your inputs. ✌️

TheGuyFromHR:


I understand the issues involved well and have actually been involved in a discussion about this ad nauseam at the time Javid took the original decision.

The point, which is what JCWI and the rest are belabouring, is that while Begum's actions are extremely condemnable, the larger principle is that a second-generation Brit can be stripped of citizenship and sent back to a land they may never have known. NOT a naturalised immigrant, mark you, but their descendants. Ultimately, that renders UK citizenship of two categories, one for those whose ancestors were here when the Romans came, or who came generations ago (virtually all 'white') and one for those whose parents arrived recently (generally of darker skin colours).

That, devoid of emotion, is the point at issue.

TheGuyFromHR:


The Supreme Court actually did not put an end to her case, they said she can't come to the UK to participate in her case at last instance.

justwise:


Listen you are talking about something that may or may not happen in future, that is entirely difference argument.

justwise:


Listen you are talking about something that may or may not happen in future, that is entirely difference argument.

justwise:


Listen you are talking about something that may or may not happen in future, that is entirely difference argument.

TheGuyFromHR:


My brother, you just made my point.

The future is unknowable, and that is why those making noise now are making the noise.

justwise:


This got nothing to do with being 1st, 2nd or 3rd class citizen, some are just playing race card here which is embarrassing . How about Jack Letts? He was born in this country to a Canadian father and a British mother all as white as snow, he was also stripped of his British citizenship and his parents jailed for supporting him while he was fighting with ISIS. So is that also racist?

icon8:


If a white-looking person says this, we will all be up in arms screaming racism. Alas, “we” seem to be our own worst enemies.

Your post has no basis in law, just so you know. A child born on British soil to a settled parent is an automatic British citizen. As British as it gets. No matter where the parent came from, once they attain settled status, any child born of them afterwards is a British citizen at birth. That’s the law!

I’m not one to play the race card, but this case reeks of racism and islamophobia, and sets a very dangerous precedent like others have rightly suggested. It’s that Jihad-loving girl today but it could be anyone’s child tomorrow, for a far less crime. If the colour of her skin were to be white, she would have been treated differently. For the avoidance of doubt, I denounce her and her association with the so-called Islamic State, but she’s British and should have been brought back home and tried in a British court, under British law, and sent to a British jail if found guilty. Not passed on to her parent’s birth country that she never had any connection to.

By your logic, because the PM’s father is Turkish (although born in the UK), the Johnson family should be sent to Turkey if they commit a crime, because according to you, the father’s father was not born here, they applied to live here blah blah blah, and are therefore second class British citizens. But you wouldn’t say that, would you? Why because they look white to you and the grandfather was clever to have changed his name from Osman Kemal to Wilfred Johnson. If the girl's name were to be Sharon Bellingham instead of Shemima Begum, you all will be singing a different tune.

Some of you are just full of inferiority complex and believe the white skin is superior to yours. As for me, my children are not second class to nobody in this land (and they know that!). I may be second class, I understand that, and that’s fine because I’m a bloody immigrant. But my children and their children? No way! I’ve paid that price for them. Everyone’s parents came from somewhere, and it doesn’t matter how long ago. Even the Queen’s family came from Germany and changed their name to Windsor to sound British somewhere along the line. So was her husband Philip, who was Greek but also changed his name to appear English. But all that does not matter because they all look white to you?

You may gloat all you want about this case, but they are only starting with their discrimination, and the girl’s case was just the litmus test. Like someone said, the day someone wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to revoke your children’s legitimate citizenship because their parents or parents’ parents were immigrants, you will understand what precedent means and why you should be careful what you wish for.

justwise:


That noise doesn't need to be made.