FarahAideed:


But the damge he has caused is more than 50 years of Mugabe

Daboomb:


You are obviously a stark illiterate if you dont know that Nigeria depended on reciepts from crude Oil, to finance its expenses and when you have the price of that crude oil dropping from over $120/Barrel, to $18/Barrel in 2015 when Buhari too over office, coupled with the wastage/looting of the previous Govt who did not save a penny when the price was good but rather depleted the $63Billion that President OBJ left in our External Reserve, RECESSION was a natural and logical step to follow, unfortunately, Buahri was the new President saddled with the situation.

Am not saying Buhari does not have his own faults (infact, l detest his Nepotism mostly) but to blame him for a recession he knows nothing about, shows the level of your ignorance and most people like you.

linearity:


He didn't win and stay in power democratically for 37 years. Each election was not won fair and square and he didn't not rule democratically.

Sacking his V.P. and selecting his wife to take over was not democratic.

You reap what you sow...what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. He who live by the sword died by same and it's all good by me.

chloedogie:


I rest my case. Cancel ke? Don't say this outside o.

ibkayee:
Huge deal for Zimbabwe, reactions I'm seeing remind me of when Abacha died

The similarities you have drawn with the Nigerian situation is very accurate.

when Abacha died everyone thought he was the main problem of Nigeria, but nearly 20 years after his death Nigeria is still going backward.

Makes me wonder if this is truly a great deal for Zimbabweans or just a political gimmick by the embattled vice president (Emerson Managawa )

Sapiosexuality:
So was it the people that carried out the coup or some group of evil military and party chiefs trying a new spec of evil? The people have nothing to do with this. Men of power did this and not the people.

Secondly, assuming the people did, once the people sanction a coup in a democracy, it ceases to be a democracy. Democratic rights end once democracy ends.

Their are other means through which good governance can be achieved. It is very hard to believe that the majority will support his sack through undemocratic means but they can't through Democratic means.

ibkayee:

Greiboy

You're right, what they need is ZANU PF out of the picture. Mnangwanga (a member) is a man that worked closely with Mugabe for decades and was instrumental in the Gukurahundi massacres, the guy doesn't sound any different. Mugabe is a great start but the next focus should be on removing ZPF from power

Sapiosexuality:
Still undemocratic. No matter how they try make the thing appear democratic, it is not. Democracy doesn't work like that. You don't make change in a democracy like that. What happened is a coup. No afterthought can change that.

Power and life is transient. Mugabe who once boasted no military coup can remove him is now under house arrest by the military.

The condemnation by the war veterans in 2016 of abandoning the revolution didn’t help his case either. They had accused him of promoting corruption and said they will not support him in next year’s election.

His treatment of the white farmers in his country didn’t help him or his country either and the sanctions he got suffered the country.

Till now, none of the western counties, who love to promote democratic values, has condemned the military coup. Tacit support or endorsement?

His wife has received criticisms and Mugabe’s attempt to pass her the touch annoyed the military, politicians and revolutionaries more. It seems everyone is finally fed up with him that even when democratic values are shattered to remove him, no one seem to care.

In Egypt when a similar thing happened, it was regarded as a ‘military intervention’ by the US and other powers when obviously a coup happened. What happened in Zimbabwe is a coup but unfortunately, Mugabe has annoyed so many people, destroyed so many laws and his authoritarianism has made it difficult to speak about him in the democratic language.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/mugabe-going-going

FarahAideed:
Buhari is next in Jesus Name

KreativGenius:



I heard you didn't experience the Abacha treatment

chloedogie:


Buhari hasn't even spent 4 years baba. calm down. The people you should be firing such prayers against are those senators that have spent over 16 years in senate and the governors that spent 8 years in their states and are presently serving as senators and the governors that are concluding their 8 years and still aspiring for senate. Those ones should concern you better man.

Daboomb:


Please, itemise these damages he has CAUSED within the last three years he was President.....and let us see.

FarahAideed:
Buhari is next in Jesus Name

SmartyPants:


A. You must understand that the military here have acted as an agency of the people. This is evidenced by the large crowds that have turned out to show their support for the coup. Major political revolution cannot succeed without the endorsement of the people.

B. Again, democracy is not the goal in and of itself. If democracy is not useful for achieving a goal then it must be dispensed with immediately. The end justifies the means.

C. You are mixing democracy up with constitutionalism. They are quite different. Democracy is the system of government that derives its authority from the people. Lets define democracy in simpler terms: "The system of government that represents the will of the people". So if the people decide to back the military to take over power or eliminate the current power holder, that is perfectly democratic.

Constitutionalism is the theory that establishes a constitution as the supreme source of law and of political power. However, even constitutionalism links this power of the constitution back to the people. Really, constitutionalism is merely a support mechanism to democracy, and can never assume superior importance. It is people who come together to forge societies and determine how they should be ruled; therefore, at any point in time they may choose to abolish or overrule the system that they themselves created.

People>Laws(constitution)>government.

ibkayee:

Greiboy

You're right, what they need is ZANU PF out of the picture. Mnangwanga (a member) is a man that worked closely with Mugabe for decades and was instrumental in the Gukurahundi massacres, the guy doesn't sound any different. Mugabe is a great start but the next focus should be on removing ZPF from power

Sapiosexuality:
But is it right to abuse the law because a person abused the law? Can we even lay claim to a law in such scenario? And who or what determines the limit of such lawlessness?

Agreed, but Mugabe made lawful handover of power impossible.

Thereby making lawless transition of power inevitable.

tete7000:



Mugabe is a dictator, nothing democratic about his rule. It is why no one gives a hoot about his been ousted. Stop making it sound like a democratic rule has been toppled. Those who live by sword, die by sword.

Sapiosexuality:
Mugabe is just a man, he is not the institution. You rejoice because an institution was crippled while trying to destroy just one man. If the people did this why can't they do it at the polls?

genghiskhan007:


It's not Buhari that's next
It's Museveni of Uganda and Paul Biya of Cameroon

Sapiosexuality:
Which people? Which people are they acting for? Which large crowd? A crowd of less than 10000 people should be used as yardstick for the position of 14 million Zimbabweans? Forget it!

I don't agree that the end justifies the means. For me, both the means and ends must be justified in democracy and any attempt at commonsense. The people have not said they are tired of Democracy. They are yet to make that stand.

As long what happens there, what the coup plotters are trying to portray, looks like a democracy, its tenets must be fully satisfied. They must discard their laws before they start trying 'whatever works'.

The people have no hands in this. In Egypt, when Mubarak was ousted, we saw that face you are trying to paint here. The people have nothing to do with this. Some men simply feel Uncle Roo is taking them for a ride. Do a little search on the head of that coup.

tete7000:


Which institution are you talking about? If institution existed in the first instance, Mugabe would not rule for 37years. The man destroyed your institution and turned himself to an institution. Let him go. No one cares.

Sapiosexuality:
He's going is good but the process was not different from the way he led. This could become the only way to remove poor leadership.

SmartyPants:


Hey my guy, some things are just basic:

A.i The voice of the people is expressed both by (a) The actions and speech of the people, (b) By their silence (c) By the acts of their elected representatives. In this case, some people have come out and supported the coup. Almost as importantly, no one has come out to denounce it. Not the opposition, not Mugabe's party people. No one. (c) Furthermore, the elected representatives, that is the parliamentary body are in support of his removal. The voice of the people has been expressed in all its forms, in support of the coup.

ii. if you have done statistics you should know that 10, 000 is an excellent sample size from which to draw inferences. Obviously, not everyone is going to go out to the streets to register their opinion.

B. There is no one single form of democracy, and the only tenet of democracy is that the will of the people be obeyed. Democracy is not a form of government per se it is a concept of government which is subject to interpretation. That is why US democracy is vastly different from UK democracy in the form of government employed.

tete7000:


No other way for a man that has turned himself to a deity.

ivolt:
Don't compare Libya with Zimbabwe, they are on opposite pole.

Sapiosexuality:
That's why Africa is messed up. Everyone knows good can be arrived through many means. We all know many ways to arrive at good deeds. But agreeing to any system through which we want to arrive at it is the sovereignty of nations. Do we want a democracy or whatever works?

Sapiosexuality:
Still undemocratic. No matter how they try make the thing appear democratic, it is not. Democracy doesn't work like that. You don't make change in a democracy like that. What happened is a coup. No afterthought can change that.

Power and life is transient. Mugabe who once boasted no military coup can remove him is now under house arrest by the military.

The condemnation by the war veterans in 2016 of abandoning the revolution didn’t help his case either. They had accused him of promoting corruption and said they will not support him in next year’s election.

His treatment of the white farmers in his country didn’t help him or his country either and the sanctions he got suffered the country.

Till now, none of the western counties, who love to promote democratic values, has condemned the military coup. Tacit support or endorsement?

His wife has received criticisms and Mugabe’s attempt to pass her the touch annoyed the military, politicians and revolutionaries more. It seems everyone is finally fed up with him that even when democratic values are shattered to remove him, no one seem to care.

In Egypt when a similar thing happened, it was regarded as a ‘military intervention’ by the US and other powers when obviously a coup happened. What happened in Zimbabwe is a coup but unfortunately, Mugabe has annoyed so many people, destroyed so many laws and his authoritarianism has made it difficult to speak about him in the democratic language.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/mugabe-going-going