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Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by WORLDPEACE(m): 9:20pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
aribisala0:It is true that Europeans persecuted Jews for killing their Messiah for many centuries but Hitler's Nazi regime's ideology of the superiority and purity of the Aryan Race and the purging of inferior races had nothing to do with the Bible but was from German myths and legends and pseodo-science of that time. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by salam1(m): 9:24pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
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Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 9:32pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
WORLDPEACE: But is there any Christian text or act by Christ Himself that justified the enslavement of Africans? Because some Europeans who identified themselves as Christians justified slavery of Black Africans does not translate to Christ approval 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
BlowBack: Wisdom is indeed a gift from the heavens. You can search for it in books, but you will only find what you seek. Your contribution's so far, make you seem like an unsettled soul. You can't give that which you do not possess. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 10:07pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
TheCabal: You have said nothing to dissuade me from accepting that the Christian religion formed the foundation for European exploitation of Africans as slaves. You can continue ranting out insults on me but that will not help you in anyway in denying Islam's support for slavery. Catholic liberal my foot 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
BlowBack: The truth like fire burns and like water drowns. |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 10:11pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
TheCabal: And you know this truth that you lie claiming to be a Christian? 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 10:22pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
BlowBack: I never claimed to be a Christian. I am a catholic liberal. Their is a difference. A Christian or Christianity is a general term, much like saying Mr A. or Ms. B is an European. You need to make a clear distinction - is Mr. A , an Englishman or Spaniard. Claiming to be a Christian (general) as you have done is highly dubious on further introspection. |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 10:24pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
TheCabal: Good that you have cleared the argument that catholics are NOT Christians |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 10:33pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
TheCabal: May 12, 1913: "...I sent my soldiers to Sukur and they destroyed thehouse of the Arnado [village head] and took a horse and seven slave girls and burnt their houses." May 21: "I captured 20 slave girls." June 11th: "I captured six slave girls and ten cattle, and killed three men." June 25: "I captured 48 slave girls and 26 cattle and I killed five persons." July 6: "I captured 30 cattle and six slave girls." The above are entries made by the leader of the Muslim ummah in the Adamawa Emirate - Hamman Yaji. Keep defending nonsense 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
BlowBack: Your displaying symptoms of selective reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by BlowBack: 10:49pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
TheCabal: And you are failing woefully in defending your prophet and religion's role in the enslavement of Africans. 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Ezkid(m): 10:52pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
kingxsamz:The Op explained all these with reference to the Quran but you just countered it with senseless trashes, if u know he is misleading us pls kindly lead us right also with reference to the same Quran or else you've got to shut the Bleep up cos you sounds like a FOOL 4 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by WORLDPEACE(m): 11:32pm On Nov 30, 2017 |
BlowBack:I was responding to what you said here: "The Europeans never used religion to justify the enslavement of Africans rather they justified the enslavement of millions of Africans citing contemporary scientific views mainly drawn from the Darwin evolutionary theory. " Christians Europeans quoted the Bible. That is religion. Whether or not that is what the Bible means is another issue. You yourself have mentioned what Islamic clerics have said now in our time to support slavery. Some Christian European clergies too during the slave trade era supported it, even with the scriptures. Your only point is that Christianity as a whole has moved on from it but they have not. They are still supporting it in this century. It is also true that it is the Christian West that made them abolish it in many Islamic countries. Also in the Bible the apostle Paul encouraged slavery. Paul should have said expressly that Christians must free their slaves but he did not. He told slaves to be of good behaviour. 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 12:42am On Dec 01, 2017 |
Hehehehe..........lol, how did your moniker come about I mean 'BLOWBACK'?!!! Have you read the book, 'BLOWBACK' written by a former cold war, warrior and scholar at University of California Chalmers Johnson. This term 'BLOWBACK' was a term actually coined by the CIA, in the 1950s to refer to unintended consequences of covert operations that come back to haunt the United States. Well, that apart. So Blowback, I find the opening of your thread to be very interesting and extreemely FUNNY honestly. It doesn't show that you have skills in this field at all 'ISLAM HAS BEEN FACING SUCH CRITICISM FOR MANY CENTURIES BY HER ANTAGONIST' CANT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW?!!!. This your thread 'MISCONCEPTIONS' is so POORLY written. Only AMATURES will ever open their writing as thus,.......... BlowBack: Your using "ALTHOUGH" made me CRINGE. That is the 'HALL MARK OF AMATURES'. You mean, despite the 'SLAVERY' which almost all cultures in human history one time or the other practiced. You mean Islam has such a tradition that CAUTIONED SLAVE-OWNERS FROM BEING HARSH TO THEIR SLAVES?!!! That must really be a very welcoming development and relief to slaves owned by Muslim owners if these Muslims faithfully adhere to the principle of "although a slave-owner is cautioned against treating slaves harshly,....." You have quoted so many verses and hadiths to justify you choosen perception which is totally MISGUIDING, how unfortunate people of your mindset on planet Earth. That very opening alone "ALTHOUGH", defeated your EVIL intention. TOO DUMB, IS LIKE GIVING YOURSELF A KNOCK ON THE HEAD. Do you know the problem with most of you guys..........IT IS FANATISM and DUMBSIFICATION. Fanatism which is but a mental disorder, dumbsification which is but mental derailment (irrationality). It is an exhibition of sheer aimless people (you) with uncultivated zeal who are so BLINDED by their self righteousness and with so much energy to expend over EMPTINESS . If not FANATISM and DUMBSIFICATION. A little intelligent chap in primary school who has excel in social studies will tell you that what is happening in Libya 'SLAVERY' is just some of the NEGATIVE by-product of an UNJUST that destroyed an EXCELLENT SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT which saw to the very welfare of Libyans in the most HUMANE way. All is lost today, thats why war is no good for any reason. ALL KINDS OF DEHUMANIZATION STARTS TO POP. AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS BEING PROJECTED AS SLAVERY REALLY. Let me ask you, how was Libya about 5 years ago. Well, if you don't know because most of you RELIGIOUS FANATICS are usually very NARROW MINDED and full of SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS and lack TRUTH in you. The standard of living in Libya was very better than what is obtainable in France, Britain a very large part of Europe. A lot of Nigerians, Africans by their own self smuggle their way to Libya to become 'SLAVES' also seek to pass through the dangerous deserts in Libya to Europe. Infact uptil this point in time you will still hear your brothers say, "LIBYA AT WAR IS STILL YET BETTER THAN NIGERIA" and are willing to be 'slaves' to one who won't treat them "HARSHLY". Whatever is happening in Libya today, be it slavery, dehumanization or whatever. Blowback, kindly stand on the ALTER OF TRUTH and ponder, just 10 years ago, not even up to 10years ago was it so in LIBYA?!!! The answer is a capital NO!!! (with three exclamation marks). So Blowback, was Libya a 'CHRISTIAN NATION' and the reason why such wasnt the news coming out of Libya or Gadafi was a NON-MUSLIM. His system of government call JAMARIHIYA (peoples government) was founded on the DOCTRINES OF ISLAM, yet never were such news when Libya was at PEACE. "ALTHOUGH, A SLAVE OWNER IS CAUTIONED AGAINST TREATING SLAVES HARSHLY..........". So, is your fight againt ILL-TREATMENT of slaves (stupid question). Obviously its to demonize other people's faith which is but the SPIRIT OF DEMON that runs in most of you FANATICS, DUMBSIFIED. Unless you are living in another planet will you not see, the realities under your own very nose. Called 'MODERN SLAVERY'?! A lot of YOU are MODERN SLAVES as far as the economic systems of today called CAPITALISM is concern where the rich keep getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. The CRUELTY of Boss, Employer to Employee is an interesting topic in this so called modern times. But you are to blind by PREJUDICE. While there is no EXPLICIT VERSE in the Quran that abolishes slavery out-rightly, structures were put in place to see to its eradication in a most systematic way which aimed very much at the psychological effect of slavery. BlowBack can you tell what Jesus own views about slavery, the structures he did put to its abolishment, his struggles against slavery so we can learn on or two things. EXPLICITLY PLEASE!!! IF NOT A HEART, DEVILISH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE OPEN A THREAD SUCH AS THIS IN SUCH A WAY THAT MAKES YOU LOOK SO MUCH LIKE AN AMATURE, DEVIOD OF KNOWLEDGE, DEVIOD OF WISDOM TO UNITE MANKIND. Let me ask you who is a slave?! And why is it that when one studies slavery trade in human histroy emphasis are so much on Europe and America than the Arabian penisula. IS IT THE TOO OBVIOUS MAL-TREATMENT AS TO SLAVERY IN WEST AS COMPARED TO THE EAST "NOT HARSH" THAT MAKES SLAVERY WITH ARABS NOT SO MUCH AN EMPHASY IN HUMAN HISTORY? Just pray, since its you INSTILLING THIS FALLACY OF COMPOSTION. That if you or one any of your relative gets sold to slavery, that your masters don't treat you "HARSHLY". 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by ojlifa: 2:32am On Dec 01, 2017 |
So also is it in Christianity. I usually laugh when Christians start insulting Muslims. And Muslims insulting Christians.now for educational purposes both Christianity and Islam are from one and the same source.they are both Abrahamice faiths meaning they are both from abrahams root and the funny part of it all is that Abraham himself was a jew BlowBack: |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by naijaking1: 3:24am On Dec 01, 2017 |
youngsahito: The Root was 300 years ago. The Op is describing Islam 2017! 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by naijaking1: 3:34am On Dec 01, 2017 |
BlowBack: The Gongolans- Madakis, etc will thank you for this enlightenment. Nigeria has not punished the invaders, marauders, and supporter of APC horse riders for subjugating peaceful and defenseless Africans, and today, some people have even forgotten the evils of Othman dan Fodio. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 3:36am On Dec 01, 2017 |
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Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by fabre4: 4:53am On Dec 01, 2017 |
aribisala0: What did Muslims do to abolish slave trade 3 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by fabre4: 4:59am On Dec 01, 2017 |
WORDWORLD: You didn't address any issue here just pointing hands and blabbing no concrete proof of what islam did to to abolish slave trade. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 6:46am On Dec 01, 2017 |
fabre4: lol........blabbing is a response to blababing. The op did NOTHING but blabber. My simple question is SHOW US EXPLICIT VERSES AS TO JESUS CHRIST the son of Mary's views about SLAVERY please. Did he eradicate 'SLAVERY' during his life time?! WHAT REALLY WAS HIS STRUGGLE AGAINST SLAVERY LET US LEARN FROM THE MASTER. This whole thread is obviously about puff up pride in the SIN called SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS. WHAT?!!! An exoneration of Christian Nations from sharing in the guilts of Slave trade? Only an IDEOLOGUE will deny such in human history such 'HARSH TREATMENT'. At least he has made references to Muhammad's views, such views which if elucidated with much more contextual analysis of the verses of the Quran and Hadith makes it clear the gradually elimination of Slavery systematically. Unless you have studied the 'JAHILIYAH PERIOD' (the period of ignorance) prior to the teaching of Islam shall you be able to grasp the structures that were put in place by Islam in such a period of cruelty. So, tell us about Jesus Christ struggles against slavery, for slavery has been practiced far before he was born. And i will tell you as much as you may want to know if ENLIGHTENMENT is what you seek. And if you are not one of the HUNGRY HERDS who feed their DISEASED SOULS on such fallacies of composition as this thread, to grow fat in IGNORANCE and PREJUDICE. You know, so many people grow fat by spending their life seeking flaws in ISLAM. Didnt start today, been so for centuries infact the Prophet's very kith and kin, tribes people were at fore-front with their spite against Islam and nobody can hate Islam as much as they did, you are all just wasting you time. SEE WHAT ISLAM IS TODAY, THEIR SPITE HAS NOT STOPPED IT FROM SPREADING, TO HEARTS THAT CARE. Well, my introduction as to his moniker 'BLOWBACK' is simply about what you get when you go blow peoples' homes. What is happening in Libya today is one of the many aftermath of an INSANE WAR which took place in Libya by so called superpowers in their spread of their own religion called 'AMERICAN DEMOCRACY'. People are not after JUSTICE nor TRUTH they are after BLIND BELIEF such as the op who have chosen to be blind to the rich ideals of Islam but eye so open to its malpractices for it feeds him so fat as per habouring a soul so diseased. So, did slavery started in Arabia with the revelation of the Quran as commanding so blowback?! Among the first revert to Islam was Bilal who was a black slave freed just a prominent example. Now below is just an insight from the Quran. "Have We not made for him a pair of eyes? And a tongue and a pair of lips? And shown him the two high ways? But he hath made no haste on this path that is steep. And what will EXPLAIN to thee the path that is steep? IT IS THE FREEING OF THE BONDMAN (SLAVE) OR THE GIVING OF FOOD IN A DAY OF PRIVATION, TO ORPHANS WITH CLAIMS OF RELATIONSHIP, OR TO THE INDIGENTS DOWN IN THE DUST" Quran 90: 8-16. That is a verse commanding the freeing of the bondmen, 'SLAVE'. The commentary to that verse by Abdulahi Yusuf Ali reads as thus: "As regards the bondman, we are to understand not only a reference to legal slavery, which happily is extinct in all civilized lands, but MANY KINDS OF SLAVERY which flourishes especially in advance societies. There is political slavery, industrial slavery, and social slavery. There is the slavery of convention of ignorance (such as blowback and many folks like him) and of superstitions. There is slavery to wealth or passions or power. THE GOOD MAN TRIES TO LIBERATE MEN AND WOMEN FROM ALL KINDS OF SLAVERY, OFTEN AT GREAT DANGER TO HIMSELF. BUT HE BEGINS BY FIRST LIBERATING HIMSELF". Its not the explanation that the op seeks, its all part of the way Islam has never for once stopped having antagonist. AND WILL NEVER STOP HAVING ANTAGONIST UNTIL THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST WHEN HE WILL COME AND CLARIFY ISSUES. All that I can say is more grease to the ops elbow for being a slave of IGNORANCE. If SLAVERY is so deeply entrenched in the Islamic culture, then the 'slavery in Libya today' as the news we are getting shouldnt have been a surprise at all it should have been so prominent, a way of life when Gadafi was alive, all he needs say is that he is practicing Islam, but was it so? Or Gadafi is a Christian and Libyans Christians. LIKEWISE ALL THE MUSLIM DOMINATED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, WILL HAVE BUT SLAVE PORTS EVERY WHERE, TRADING IN SLAVERY. Very, very funny set people you whole lots!!! I dont know how you people have been reduced to the level that you cant use your heads. ORDINARY COMMON SENSE SHOULD TELL ALL OF YOU THAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING IS AN AFTERMATH OF WAR IN LIBYA. SO, LIBYA ARE NEW WITH ISLAM, AND GADAFI WAS A NON-MUSLIM AND THATS WHY SUCH NEWS WASNT COMING FROM LIBYA PRIOR. Hmmmm..................nawa o! 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by nawtyme: 7:14am On Dec 01, 2017 |
TheCabal:Get the fvck out of here you radical Islamic scum with your practice of al taquiya. Why don't you bring up passages from your koran to argue with the poster rather than claiming to be a catholic. Shameless people willing to deny their Islamic dogma at the slightest occasion 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by iliyande(m): 9:13am On Dec 01, 2017 |
aribisala0: You can do us good by at least quoting some verses from the Bible, Jesus and promenent Christians that backs up your claims like the op doing bro.... He is simply saying that, Jesus who is the Founder of Christianity didn't approve slave hence any Christians involved in such acts is on his/her own and not Christ-like. 3 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 9:21am On Dec 01, 2017 |
iliyande: How are you sure Jesus didnt approve of slave trade. CAN YOU SHOW US HIS EXPLICIT DISAPPROVAL WITH THE VERSES OF THE BIBLE?!!! His struggles against slave trade, a trade that has been practiced since before his birth. PLEASE!!! I want to read Jesus's own views as to slave trade. |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 10:19am On Dec 01, 2017 |
nawtyme: You need medical attention. 1 Like |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by nawtyme: 10:41am On Dec 01, 2017 |
TheCabal:Come to me and I would personally give you a comprehensive medical check up free of charge and cover the cost of your psychiatric evaluation when my colleagues are done with you. Why are you denying your religion? 2 Likes |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by mabea: 10:43am On Dec 01, 2017 |
MIPNIG:Seems like you dont understand the meaning of the word slave |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by iliyande(m): 11:02am On Dec 01, 2017 |
WORDWORLD: Jesus wouldn't have preached LOVE for One anther then? Or do you mean he forgot about slave trade? |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by Nobody: 11:09am On Dec 01, 2017 |
iliyande: Buddha too preached about love. So what are you saying?!!! The simple question is what are Jesus views about slave trade SIMPLE!!! None?!!! |
Re: Islam Approves Of The Libyan Slave Markets by iliyande(m): 11:22am On Dec 01, 2017 |
WORDWORLD: In summary bro.. The questions are: Did Mohammed practice slave trade? Did Mohammed encourage his followers to continue in trading slave like shekau and Co always claimed? Are those acts of trading human beings in Lybia, Iraq and Sambisa really being inspired by the teachings of Mohammed? Are those quotes really from mohammed teachings? Yes, Jesus didnt mention anything about trading human, his teachings are always On Love. 4 Likes |
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