akintom:
The illusion of karma (1)

Karma means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect). Good intent and good deed contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deed contribute to bad karma and future suffering - Wikipedia.

A bad/evil/wicked deed, is an act that causes someone, an unjust pain and suffering. People who do wickedly, ranges from normal humans to psychopath. The normal humans, do evil, when they believe that they can't be deterred or punished.

Until the wicked is caught, and made to bear the consequences of his wickedness, there are those who believe that there's something (spiritual force, God, etc), that can bring commensurate suffering upon the wicked, in the event that he escaped justice.

The Christians believe that Yahweh, is capable of making a wicked man become miserable and restless - Isaiah 48:22 THERE IS NO PEACE, SAITH THE LORD, UNTO THE WICKED.

The Christians are deluded with imaginary wicked entities, that includes humans and spirits (a chronic case of unhealthy suspicion), this makes their case unsuitable for this piece.

But a look at the wicked Nigerian politicians, that have brought needless and unjust suffering on Nigerians, they should have been a perfect evidence of karma or Yahweh's judgment.

These politicians have peace and prosperity. They have it abundantly and are burdened with surplus, that will extend to their fourth generation.

It's an illusion, to think that there's something, that will bring the wicked to justice, other than justice system. And if any wicked man escapes justice, he suffers no lost of peace or misery, except as known with human existence, which is a matter of chance, coincidence and randomness.

A rational disposition to act of wickedness anywhere, is the responsibility of activating the justice system, which is expected to quench the wickedness, punish the wicked man, deter intended wickedness and reinforce less wicked world.

#epihanic

akintom:
The illusion of karma (1)

Karma means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect). Good intent and good deed contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deed contribute to bad karma and future suffering - Wikipedia.

A bad/evil/wicked deed, is an act that causes someone, an unjust pain and suffering. People who do wickedly, ranges from normal humans to psychopath. The normal humans, do evil, when they believe that they can't be deterred or punished.

Until the wicked is caught, and made to bear the consequences of his wickedness, there are those who believe that there's something (spiritual force, God, etc), that can bring commensurate suffering upon the wicked, in the event that he escaped justice.

The Christians believe that Yahweh, is capable of making a wicked man become miserable and restless - Isaiah 48:22 THERE IS NO PEACE, SAITH THE LORD, UNTO THE WICKED.

The Christians are deluded with imaginary wicked entities, that includes humans and spirits (a chronic case of unhealthy suspicion), this makes their case unsuitable for this piece.

But a look at the wicked Nigerian politicians, that have brought needless and unjust suffering on Nigerians, they should have been a perfect evidence of karma or Yahweh's judgment.

These politicians have peace and prosperity. They have it abundantly and are burdened with surplus, that will extend to their fourth generation.

It's an illusion, to think that there's something, that will bring the wicked to justice, other than justice system. And if any wicked man escapes justice, he suffers no lost of peace or misery, except as known with human existence, which is a matter of chance, coincidence and randomness.

A rational disposition to act of wickedness anywhere, is the responsibility of activating the justice system, which is expected to quench the wickedness, punish the wicked man, deter intended wickedness and reinforce less wicked world.

#epihanic

CAPSLOCKED:

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS KARMA.
WHAT DID HITLER GET?

LOOK AT LITTLE KIDS THAT ARE RAPED OR KILLED. LOOK AT SLAVERY AND BLACKS STILL SUFFERING. IF KARMA EXISTED SHOULDN'T THERE HAVE BEEN REPERCUSSIONS AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSORS?

WHEN SOMEONE HURTS YOU AND GETS CANCER HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DID TO YOU? WHAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO GET CANCER ANYWAY? WERE YOU THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY'VE HURT?
WHICH ONE OF THE PEOPLE HURT WOULD GET THE KARMA CREDIT?
WHEN YOUR CHILD GETS SICK OR EVEN DIES WAS THAT YOUR CHILD'S KARMA OR YOURS? WHEN A COMPANY GOES BANKRUPT AND YOU LOSE YOUR JOB WAS THAT THE COMPANY OWNERS KARMA OR WAS IT YOURS?


KARMA IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGIOUS BELIEF HUMANS MADE UP TO COMFORT THEMSELVES.
KARMA CLAIMS THAT YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOR BAD ACTIONS AND WILL BE REWARDED FOR POSITIVE ACTIONS. THIS LAW SAYS IT'S ALWAYS TRUE, WHEN THERE ARE MILLIONS OF CASES WHERE IT ISN'T.

FROM THE DRUG LORD WHO IS A BILLIONAIRE TO THE CHILD BORN WITH TWO HEADS, DO YOU THINK THEY REALLY DESERVE WHAT THEY HAVE? WHAT COULD AN UNBORN BABY HAVE DONE THAT WAS SO EVIL? EVEN IF THE PARENTS WERE ABUSIVE, IS IT REALLY FAIR TO PUNISH THE CHILD? BRINGING UP PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WON'T MATTER BECAUSE THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCES. AND IF KARMA AFFECTS THE "NEXT LIFE," IS THAT JUSTIFIED EITHER? IF PEOPLE ARE TO BE REINCARNATED, THEY WILL BE GIVEN A BRAIN AND PERSONALITY DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OLD SELVES, SO IS THIS MORALLY CORRECT?

I FIND IT EXTREMELY LIKELY HUMANS ONLY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF KARMA TO MAKE THEMSELVES MORE COMFORTABLE, JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE CONCEPT OF GODS AND AN AFTERLIFE.

akintom:
The illusion of karma (1)


But a look at the wicked Nigerian politicians, that have brought needless and unjust suffering on Nigerians, they should have been a perfect evidence of karma or Yahweh's judgment.

These politicians have peace and prosperity. They have it abundantly and are burdened with surplus, that will extend to their fourth generation.

It's an illusion, to think that there's something, that will bring the wicked to justice, other than justice system. And if any wicked man escapes justice, he suffers no lost of peace or misery, except as known with human existence, which is a matter of chance, coincidence and randomness.

A rational disposition to act of wickedness anywhere, is the responsibility of activating the justice system, which is expected to quench the wickedness, punish the wicked man, deter intended wickedness and reinforce less wicked world.

#epihanic

CAPSLOCKED:

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS KARMA.
WHAT DID HITLER GET?

LOOK AT LITTLE KIDS THAT ARE RAPED OR KILLED. LOOK AT SLAVERY AND BLACKS STILL SUFFERING. IF KARMA EXISTED SHOULDN'T THERE HAVE BEEN REPERCUSSIONS AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSORS?

WHEN SOMEONE HURTS YOU AND GETS CANCER HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DID TO YOU? WHAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO GET CANCER ANYWAY? WERE YOU THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY'VE HURT?
WHICH ONE OF THE PEOPLE HURT WOULD GET THE KARMA CREDIT?
WHEN YOUR CHILD GETS SICK OR EVEN DIES WAS THAT YOUR CHILD'S KARMA OR YOURS? WHEN A COMPANY GOES BANKRUPT AND YOU LOSE YOUR JOB WAS THAT THE COMPANY OWNERS KARMA OR WAS IT YOURS?


KARMA IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGIOUS BELIEF HUMANS MADE UP TO COMFORT THEMSELVES.
KARMA CLAIMS THAT YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOR BAD ACTIONS AND WILL BE REWARDED FOR POSITIVE ACTIONS. THIS LAW SAYS IT'S ALWAYS TRUE, WHEN THERE ARE MILLIONS OF CASES WHERE IT ISN'T.

FROM THE DRUG LORD WHO IS A BILLIONAIRE TO THE CHILD BORN WITH TWO HEADS, DO YOU THINK THEY REALLY DESERVE WHAT THEY HAVE? WHAT COULD AN UNBORN BABY HAVE DONE THAT WAS SO EVIL? EVEN IF THE PARENTS WERE ABUSIVE, IS IT REALLY FAIR TO PUNISH THE CHILD? BRINGING UP PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WON'T MATTER BECAUSE THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCES. AND IF KARMA AFFECTS THE "NEXT LIFE," IS THAT JUSTIFIED EITHER? IF PEOPLE ARE TO BE REINCARNATED, THEY WILL BE GIVEN A BRAIN AND PERSONALITY DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OLD SELVES, SO IS THIS MORALLY CORRECT?

I FIND IT EXTREMELY LIKELY HUMANS ONLY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF KARMA TO MAKE THEMSELVES MORE COMFORTABLE, JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE CONCEPT OF GODS AND AN AFTERLIFE.

CoolUsername:
There's just no such thing as karma. But, steal enough times and you'll get caught. Mess with enough people and someone will probably strike back.

@CAPSLOCKED, you brought up Hitler as case study of karma but the truth is that if you make yourself the enemy of enough countries, eventually one of them will defeat you.

You may get away with one murder but it gets exponentially harder to cover the evidence up as your body count increases.

So I won't say that what goes around comes around but if you do something that has consequences enough times then you'll probably have to face those consequences at some point.

vaxx:
Karma is simply the reaction of what you do....


From the foundation of classical mechanics in physics ,Newton third law of motion found that "every action has equal and opposite reaction" this is just a discovery of action and effects from one perspective, its been formulated in science now because we've found the parameters to quantify it.

Whatever you do as an action surely comes with its own effects. We can't see all the effects immediately because we don't understand ALL the parameters involved in the PROCESS or REACTION.


My understanding of karma is different from India version, mine is African tradition deeply rooted to my tribe.....Yoruba version...... I will open a thread on it soon....

I have some unrelated question for you

Do you believe in luck?
Do you believe in love at first sight?

ScienceWatch:
Awesome Vaxx. You really go out of your way to simplify things for dull minds and hateful hearts. These dudes falsely claim that they worship science, but fail to see that science stole from the established spiritual laws of Karma to make themselves relevant to their over eager Atheist followers.

Karma has been saying for thousands of years, what corrupt scientists claim as a modern discovery: FOR EVERY ACTION, THERE IS A REACTION EQUAL AND OPPOSITE.

[b]Many people, doctors, psychologists, [/b]psychiatrists are using Emmanuel TV as a powerful teaching tool because of the live personal testimonies on demonic deliverance world wide which clearly proves what the esteemed Vaxx said. "Whatever you do as an action surely comes with its own effects."

vaxx:
majority of these dude are materialistic and that is why it is diifficult to convince them.....

The believe of karma is only applicable to people with conscience......

butterflyl1on:



What desperation and stupidity. From hinduism/buddhism which is the origin of karma you leapfrogged to Christianity with it.

You are hopelessly ignorant and deceptively mad.

vaxx:
Karma is simply the reaction of what you do....


From the foundation of classical mechanics in physics ,Newton third law of motion found that "every action has equal and opposite reaction" this is just a discovery of action and effects from one perspective, its been formulated in science now because we've found the parameters to quantify it.

Whatever you do as an action surely comes with its own effects. We can't see all the effects immediately because we don't understand ALL the parameters involved in the PROCESS or REACTION.



My understanding of karma is different from India version, mine is African tradition deeply rooted to my tribe.....Yoruba version...... I will open a thread on it soon....


I have some unrelated question for you

Do you believe in luck?
Do you believe in love at first sight?

CAPSLOCKED:


THEN IT'S NOT "KARMA". ASK YOUR GRANDFATHER WHAT IT'S CALLED.

CoolUsername:
There's just no such thing as karma. But, steal enough times and you'll get caught.

CoolUsername:

@CAPSLOCKED, you brought up Hitler as case study of karma but the truth is that if you make yourself the enemy of enough countries, eventually one of them will defeat you.

CoolUsername:


So I won't say that what goes around comes around but if you do something that has consequences enough times then you'll probably have to face those consequences at some point.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COMMITTED TERRIBLE CRIMES, SOME AGAINST ALL OF HUMANITY, AND THEY GOT AWAY.

THEIR DEATH IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IS NOT A PRICE FOR THEIR CRIMES.

THE BIGGEST CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY HAS BEEN AND IS STILL BEING COMMITTED BY RELIGION AND POLITICS.. THE MASS MURDERS, THE ORGANISED TERRORISM, AND MANY UNMENTIONABLES.

WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE GET? MORE MONEY AND FAME, AND THEY GET TO BE REMEMBERED AS GREAT PEOPLE FOR ETERNITY WHEN THEY DIE.. INFACT, THE NEW GENERATION HEARS / READS ABOUT THEM AS LEGENDS AND WONDERFUL HUMANS INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL DEVILS THAT THEY WERE.

SO WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

CAPSLOCKED:




THEN IT'S NOT "KARMA". ASK YOUR GRANDFATHER WHAT IT'S CALLED.

CAPSLOCKED:

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS KARMA.
WHAT DID HITLER GET?

LOOK AT LITTLE KIDS THAT ARE RAPED OR KILLED. LOOK AT SLAVERY AND BLACKS STILL SUFFERING. IF KARMA EXISTED SHOULDN'T THERE HAVE BEEN REPERCUSSIONS AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSORS?

WHEN SOMEONE HURTS YOU AND GETS CANCER HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DID TO YOU? WHAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO GET CANCER ANYWAY? WERE YOU THE ONLY ONE THAT THEY'VE HURT?
WHICH ONE OF THE PEOPLE HURT WOULD GET THE KARMA CREDIT?
WHEN YOUR CHILD GETS SICK OR EVEN DIES WAS THAT YOUR CHILD'S KARMA OR YOURS? WHEN A COMPANY GOES BANKRUPT AND YOU LOSE YOUR JOB WAS THAT THE COMPANY OWNERS KARMA OR WAS IT YOURS?


KARMA IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGIOUS BELIEF HUMANS MADE UP TO COMFORT THEMSELVES.
KARMA CLAIMS THAT YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOR BAD ACTIONS AND WILL BE REWARDED FOR POSITIVE ACTIONS. THIS LAW SAYS IT'S ALWAYS TRUE, WHEN THERE ARE MILLIONS OF CASES WHERE IT ISN'T.

FROM THE DRUG LORD WHO IS A BILLIONAIRE TO THE CHILD BORN WITH TWO HEADS, DO YOU THINK THEY REALLY DESERVE WHAT THEY HAVE? WHAT COULD AN UNBORN BABY HAVE DONE THAT WAS SO EVIL? EVEN IF THE PARENTS WERE ABUSIVE, IS IT REALLY FAIR TO PUNISH THE CHILD? BRINGING UP PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WON'T MATTER BECAUSE THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS COINCIDENCES. AND IF KARMA AFFECTS THE "NEXT LIFE," IS THAT JUSTIFIED EITHER? IF PEOPLE ARE TO BE REINCARNATED, THEY WILL BE GIVEN A BRAIN AND PERSONALITY DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OLD SELVES, SO IS THIS MORALLY CORRECT?

I FIND IT EXTREMELY LIKELY HUMANS ONLY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF KARMA TO MAKE THEMSELVES MORE COMFORTABLE, JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH THE CONCEPT OF GODS AND AN AFTERLIFE.

CoolUsername:
There's just no such thing as karma. But, steal enough times and you'll get caught. Mess with enough people and someone will probably strike back.

@CAPSLOCKED, you brought up Hitler as case study of karma but the truth is that if you make yourself the enemy of enough countries, eventually one of them will defeat you.

You may get away with one murder but it gets exponentially harder to cover the evidence up as your body count increases.

So I won't say that what goes around comes around but if you do something that has consequences enough times then you'll probably have to face those consequences at some point.

vaxx:
first of all, the concept of good and bad is abrahmic ideology or western idea .... Yoruba and other African religions don’t believe in the concept of good or bad. In fact, the concept of duality is a rare form of thought that is used mainly in the Western world. African religions operate from a different paradigm. They believe that everything is good and bad. War is good for the people who win because they get the additional resources needed for survival, but bad for the losers, who end up with nothing. Good and bad are on different sides of the same coin, and one cannot exist without the other.

A verse from ifa odu sums up karma karma concept by saying that Karma is the sum total of the consequences of all actions. This means that we cannot escape our karma. We must experience the positive and negative consequences of our actions. The Odu is a religious scripture that allows us to get feedback and guidance from a Godly force.

i will like to share ideas with you ...

CAPSLOCKED:




YOU'RE ALWAYS TALKING TRASH.

THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN KARMA IN NIGERIA, ARE THEY BUDDHISTS?

YOUR POINT FURTHER PORTRAYS THAT CHRISTIANS ACCEPT EVERY NONSENSE WITHOUT ADEQUATE THINKING OR RESEARCH.

TO ME, I DON'T THINK CHRISTIANS SHOULD BELIEVE IN KARMA SINCE THEY HAVE THE SUPREME JUDGE IN HEAVEN.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE A CHRISTIAN AND SUPPORT A NORSE OR MAYAN IDEA YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

I DOUBT HALF THE NUMBER OF CHRISTIANS IN THIS COUNTRY EVEN KNOW "BUDDHISM" COS THEY USUALLY KNOW NOTHING.

vaxx:
first of all, the concept of good and bad is abrahmic ideology or western idea .... Yoruba and other African religions don’t believe in the concept of good or bad. In fact, the concept of duality is a rare form of thought that is used mainly in the Western world. African religions operate from a different paradigm. They believe that everything is good and bad. War is good for the people who win because they get the additional resources needed for survival, but bad for the losers, who end up with nothing. Good and bad are on different sides of the same coin, and one cannot exist without the other.

butterflyl1on:



What desperation and stupidity. From hinduism/buddhism which is the origin of karma you leapfrogged to Christianity with it.

You are hopelessly ignorant and deceptively mad.

CoolUsername:
There's just no such thing as karma. But, steal enough times and you'll get caught. Mess with enough people and someone will probably strike back.

@CAPSLOCKED, you brought up Hitler as case study of karma but the truth is that if you make yourself the enemy of enough countries, eventually one of them will defeat you.

You may get away with one murder but it gets exponentially harder to cover the evidence up as your body count increases.

So I won't say that what goes around comes around but if you do something that has consequences enough times then you'll probably have to face those consequences at some point.

butterflyl1on:


What desperation and stupidity. From hinduism/buddhism which is the origin of karma you leapfrogged to Christianity with it.

You are hopelessly ignorant and deceptively mad.

vaxx:
Karma is simply the reaction of what you do....

"From the foundation of classical mechanics in physics ,Newton third law of motion found that "every action has equal and opposite reaction" this is just a discovery of action and effects from one perspective, its been formulated in science now because we've found the parameters to quantify it".

Whatever you do as an action surely comes with its own effects