felixomor:
Eiya, mr anencephalic Sorry o

Thylord:
is far much better than being a classified zoommbiee.

felixomor:
What percentage of pastors are riding jets?
Jesus didnt marry That means u shouldnt also marry abi?

felixomor:
What percentage of pastors are riding jets?
Jesus didnt marry That means u shouldnt also marry abi?

Kokaine:

but some things will never change,

trying to show another way but you stay in the dope game..

2pac. changes

felixomor:


The scripture is talking Paul
Not Peter.

I always knew many of u freeze followers dont read bible.
Even with scripture, u dont even know thw differences between Paul and Peter.
Hian

Xmen149:


fantastic ,you now have the logical and real interpretation instead of twisting to mean other things whether from Paul or policap

and Lol,this has nothing to do with freez,the debate has been on for long freez just made more people aware .

felixomor:


Zombie has head.
FYI
Anencephalic means "headless" lol

Thylord:
its means born with half skull or half brain.olodo using words you don't know the meaning. you are really a classified zombified anencephalic.

felixomor:


Hehehehe "according to his income"
Weekly for that Matter

According to u, I thought before there were nothing of such in the new testament....

Keeep grasping straws dear.

felixomor:


Ignoramus, your foolishness goes before thee
Abraham didnt tithe food
Jacob didnt tithe food.

Receive knowledge

PrecisionFx:



[s]Blantantly idiotic² individuals, U are extremely Senile. Goan read everything about tithe so that u will understand how senseless u sound.

Onye Ala lere ele. Titikpa Laa gi doggy.. [/s]

Peacefullove:


He didn't demand for 10% Tithe . more proofs that tithing is a fraud

felixomor:

Hehehe
I thought tithe was food

Ediort.

felixomor:


Hehehe "according to income".....
Weekly.

Wow.

felixomor:
So u agree u have half skull ? Lmao

felixomor:
So u agree u have half skull ? Lmao

Thylord:
[s]hehehehehehehe na you get half skull.yeye person[/s]

Peacefullove:


Other versions say ' as God has prospered you ' which is more correct going by the Bible Greek manuscript . Upgrade yourself

They never ask anyone for tithe or 10% , it was not practiced . the verse proofs that .

felixomor:

Quoting 2pac here?

End of discussion.
Tithe matter is not for u.

Kokaine:
you holy pass tupac abi?

for your mind you righteous.

you only go to church on Sundays that's all

what was tupac doing that you don't do?

youre not married, you are not chaste, you are not a virgin, you have a girlfriend.

you drink, you play music, you do yahoo, you lie, you are an arsenal fan to the core, at the end of the day just because you go to church on sundays, sit at the front, and drop 50naira offering, you start feeling more catholic than the pope and more christian than jesus.

my brodah, take the log of wood from your eyes so you see clearly to remove the spec from peoples eyes. self righteousness is not piety.

felixomor:

All these are your opinion. Tithe matter isnt for u.
Period!

oruma19:
but be sincere to urself, what they are doing is it right? Can u say Jesus is happy with them? Why deceive God's people to ur personal enrichment? It's not fair na, these pastors make believers feel God does not love everyone by the way they talk and do things. I knw how Chris talks, he makes u feel if u don't give him money God will not bless u, why then did Christ die? oyedepo is very boastful, adeboye humble but sly and assumes his word to be law. Kumuyi is not talking about it because he feels guilty. Olukoya is the only one who came out to say the truth, it is not compulsory. I am not against giving because I give a lot, not to sound immodest, God placed in my heart to assist a church near me build the auditorium and I am doing it gradually, so the point is clear, its good to give to God's work but not in under any form of duress , bet9ja or merrybet pattern where u give and expect return like God is kalokalo.we give because we are blessed not because we want God to bless us but because we appreciate His blessings. If He blesses us more, well and good, but in appreciation of His blessings we give. Let our men of God repent and do God's will. A lot of people in the bible who initially were great ended sadly because they derailed e.g Solomon, Samson, gehazi, Judas etc. Its not impossible for these men of God to go to hell, yes it is possible if they continue in false teaching for personal enrichment.

Tellemall:


Who said you're giving your tithes and offerings to a man of God? This is like saying contributing to a motherless babies home is enriching those in charge of it. You're not considering that it actually goes into use.

And how can you judge if a person is poor or not? Poverty is relative. That a person looks poor" to you doesn't mean that they are.

So how do you know who you're giving to? Same difference as giving it in a church.

If you want to do some goodwill, do so. Don't call it tithing.

Timijo:
Who are you to judge these men of God? Are you perfect? Besides, none of them tie rope around their necks and drag them to their churches. They chose to fellowship there, and if they are not comfortable with their practices, they should leave and look for the ones that suit them.

rejosom:


I have always thought that tithes and offerings were for the men of god. No vex, you can enlighten me. Who are they meant for.


As for motherless babies' homes, if those who take care of such homes are living porch lifestyles with no other known jobs they are doing. Your guess is as good as mine....giving them money will be enriching them. Simple.

That is the challenge, identify the genuinely poor and help out of poverty.

Is it the name 'tithe' included that is an issue or is the idea not a good one?

Appareil:
Be careful please , let your words be few before God.hmm.

Tellemall:


If the bolded is your problem with paying tithes, why on Earth would you give your money to anybody else as well knowing that they, too, can misappropriate your funds?

The problem many people have is that they think their tithes enter the pastor's pocket. This is possible in every scenario of giving but that's not what you know is going on for a fact. You're assuming pastors don't work or receive gifts from people. You assume they sit in the church all day and do nothing else but that.

When you attend a programme in church, sit under the air conditioner, burning energy as you come to read your Bible in a conducive environment, applaud the artistes brought in, do you think it's the pastor's personal money or your tithes that do it? Who will pay those bills? The church? Is there church a money doubling bank? Where does the money come from?

When hungry people are fed by your church in outreach programmes and the less fortunate in the building are catered for, do you imagine it to be the pastor's personal money or your tithes and offerings? You need them to announce this to you, how the most minute one buck was spent? They do these things without announcing it to you.

When visits are made to orphanages by your church, prisoners are fed, is it the pastor's own money or tithes and offerings? Do you know the joy those visits give the prisoners? Have you seen them dancing and happy when the churches visit them? Do you need them to tell you they do this?

You see, your reluctance to pay tithes destroys your obedience to the last instruction gave to you to preach the gospel to every creature. You can't reach them all by yourself. That's why there is the church.

When you give money to people, do you stop to preach to them? No. But the church does that. Do you personally go to feed prisoners to your own righteousness or to spread the word of God? But the church does it for you, so why don't you think you should pay your tithes in church?

Why go to church when you don't care about how it will be run? Why enjoy it's facilities if you think they shouldn't be maintained with your tithes? Do you want the pastor to pay for you from his pocket to preach to you everyday when you can help him spread the word of God? Is he capable of that?

If you're giving it to people on the street who don't know or care about God, I hope that they, and you, continue to spread the word of God. You don't know if they will use it to buy alcohol when you've gone, or if they will use it in any licentious manner.

You giving tithes to people in the street who you think are poor is killing the gospel on that person and not spreading it as Jesus said you should. Give them but don't neglect giving to the work of God except you wish to carry it on by yourself.

Or do you want a breakdown of every 500 bucks spent by the church? Have you met organizations you give your money to, or individuals, demanding to know what the money you gave them was used for?

This anti-tithing movement is pointless.
The work of people who don't really read or understand their Bible. Read all of the Bible or discard all of it. Don't take half. Half of Jesus won't get you to heaven.

One man quotes one verse you agree with and you discard the rest of the things that come after.

If tithing is Jewish, then forget about the ten commandments because that is the Torah.
Live by your own Bible.

I'm not vexing. It's just strange why people don't want to pay tithes again, but expect the most of the church.

Morality isn't Christianity.

rejosom:


Waoh...I really love the way you broke down your message to a layman's understanding. Thanks for that.

I agree on so many points you have raised and I must add that I admire your personality. However, I would love to make some inputs as well
1. The TAP challenge is not against gifts and offering so long as people are not being coerced into giving.
2. Gifts and offerings are free will and never obligatory.
3. Tithe is on food and not money.
4. Tithing in the bible is for the poor.
5. If you won't give to a poor man for fear of him using it to buy alcohol why give to a pastor when he could use it to buy ammunitions.
6. Tithing is a law and Christians believe that they are redeemed from the law including the 10 commandments.
7. Like you rightly said "read all the bible or discard all". The bible clearly said that tithing in on food. Are you sure you are reading all the bible?
8 the antitithe message is against erroneous teachings established as doctrines like tithing.

Tellemall:




Are you a Christian because you're scared of hell, or because you have come to believe that it's the only way to live for you?

You give tithes and offerings in faith to God, not because you're scared of punishments​ (as some people claim).

@no. 7, yes. Your tithes aren't only your food. The same Bible(Exodus) you read tells you that if your food is too much to take to the place where you will offer your sacrifices, sell them and bring the money before God. Not before man. But before God. The giving of food was because, at the time, edible sacrifices were required. It had to be food because it would be burnt before God. That is still a Jewish thing up till date.

The belief that tithes are only food is erroneous and appears to be new because for the first time someone has pointed out that scripture in public. Sometimes we need to read the Bible with understanding, not to see what we want to see.

When Jesus came to Earth, he stopped the Jews from stoning to death the Samaritan woman. There was no need for the law anymore because of his Mercy. When the poor woman dropped her offerings in the synagogue (place where God is worshipped), Jesus was there, too, watching her. She dropped money. Not food, but money. He did not condemn her, but praised her. This means that money can be dropped in church and Jesus is still watching. Why are we fighting to carry only food as tithes and offerings then? Is the Exodus law more superior to the new Grace of God? Did Jesus tell her to take back her money, that he only needed food?

So we need to think about it when someone is telling us to go back of giving food like Cain and Abel, when Jesus has allowed us to give money like that woman did. Is the man saying these things wiser than Jesus who let The woman drop money in the synagogue? Is he the new author of the Bible?

Tithing is not only for the poor. Goodwill, as expressed in Acts and Romans, cover for provisions for the poor, too. If everything is going to the poor, what goes towards the church of God on earth? It's not all about money, profits, fraud and deception.


We all need to read our Bibles in full.

@no 6, explain, please.
@no 8, being anti-tithes is left up to each person. It won't change the Bible.

Give food as tithes if you're a farmer or prefer it that way.