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Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ken4Christ: 5:43pm On Dec 11, 2017
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Goshen360(m): 7:59pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.


This is complete nonsense! Your summary is wrong and heresy! Why would your good works preserve your salvation if you never wasn't saved by the good works in the first place?

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by ichuka(m): 9:00pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.

Bro you err not knowing the true meaning of Works and Grace,Reward and Gift.

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 9:29pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works.

True. But your posts that follow this declaration betray the fact that salvation is by faith ....

this is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".


You dont seem to understand that passage anyway this is a commentary on it ""ephesians 2:10 the author of it is God, it is not man's work; nor is it the work of ministers, no, nor of angels, but it is God's work: sometimes it is ascribed to the Spirit, who regenerates and sanctifies; and sometimes to the Son of God, who quickens whom he will; and sometimes to the Father, who reveals his Son, and draws men to him, and who seems to be meant here: the subjects of this divine operation, are the persons described in Eph 2:1 and include both Jews and Gentiles; and express the distinguishing grace of God, that they and not others, and who were by nature children of wrath as others, should be his workmanship: and this is mentioned to show, that salvation can not be by any works of men, since all their works are either wrought for them, or in them, by God; salvation is a work wrought for them without them; and sanctification is a work wrought in them by God, of his good pleasure; and all their good works are fruits of his grace, as follows""


In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

which God hath before ordained
that we should walk in them, or has "before prepared"; for the preparation of good works to be performed by saints, and the preparation of them for the performance of them; are both from the Lord; God has appointed good works to be done by his people and in his word he has declared what they are he would have done; and it is his will not only that they should do them, but continue to do them; not only that they should do a single act or more, but walk in them; their conversation and course of life should be one continued series of good works; but the intention is not that they should be saved by them, but that they should walk in them; and this being the pre-ordination of God, as it shows that predestination is not according to good works, since good works are the fruits and effects of it, so likewise that it is no licentious doctrine; seeing it provides for the performance of good works, as well as secures grace and glory.
Concerning salvation it cannot be lost because its God's work of grace its a gift .... And also it cannot be gained if salvation can be gained then its works and its gained as debt salvation can't be gained by your believe it is given by God

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

Its obvious that the saved don't deny him

Let me admit that there are goats among the sheep and that's why passages like that serve as warning. The BIG TRUTH IS THAT IF SALVATION IS A GIFT IT CANT BE LOST IT CANT BE GAINED TOO


If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15)

Let me post an exposition on it to help

that thou art neither cold nor hot; she was not "cold", or without spiritual life, at least in many of her members, as all men by nature are, and carnal professors be; she was alive, but not lively: nor was she wholly without spiritual affections and love; to God, and Christ, to his people, ways, truths, and ordinances; she had love, but the fervency of it was abated: nor was she without spiritual breathings and desires altogether, as dead men are; or without the light and knowledge of the Gospel, and a profession of it, and yet she was not "hot"; her love to God and Christ, and the saints, was not ardent and flaming; it was not like coals of fire, that give most vehement flame, which many waters cannot quench the had not fervency of spirit in the service of the Lord; nor was she zealous for the truths of the Gospel, and for the ordinances of it, and for the house of God and its discipline; nor did she warmly oppose all sin, and every error and false way.
I would thou wert cold or hot; which must be understood, not absolutely, but comparatively; and not that it was an indifferent thing to Christ whether she was one or the other; but he alludes to what is natural among men, it being generally more agreeable to have anything entirely hot, or entirely cold, than to be neither; and so uses this phrase to show his detestation of lukewarmness, and that it is better to be ignorant, and not a professor of religion, than to be a vain and carnal one; Christ desires not simply that she might be cold, but that she might be sensible of her need of spiritual heat and fervency.




What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.
This changes nothing in essence though it's a sign of divine chastisement

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the [b]unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashi[/b]ng of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.
In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.


First,, a believer or true believer who was called and chosen by grace can never be unprofitable because it's God that works in him to will and do his Good pleasure

Paul in Hebrews was writing to Christians who were contemplating or thinking of going back to Judaism .... You judge this will God start a work and not finish it ??

If you found salvation for yourself you will lose it.... But if God starts salvation in you ... You can't fall of salvation

That's why its not of him that willeth or him that runneth but of God that showeth mercy ...

True saved believers won't joke with church ... It doesn't mean they are saved by going to church


Also untrue believers may not joke with church .. It doesn't mean they are saved

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by joshnes(m): 9:57pm On Dec 11, 2017
nice write up sir but can you please give examples of what you mean by good works?
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ken4Christ: 10:28pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ferisidowu:


First,, a believer or true believer who was called and chosen by grace can never be unprofitable because it's God that works in him to will and do his Good pleasure

Paul in Hebrews was writing to Christians who were contemplating or thinking of going back to Judaism .... You judge this will God start a work and not finish it ??

If you found salvation for yourself you will lose it.... But if God starts salvation in you ... You can't fall of salvation

That's why its not of him that willeth or him that runneth but of God that showeth mercy ...

True saved believers won't joke with church ... It doesn't mean they are saved by going to church


Also untrue believers may not joke with church .. It doesn't mean they are saved

You are just finding It difficult to unlearn what you have been made to believe over the years. Even our Lord Jesus let us know that so many ministers will be disqualified on that day.

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 10:31pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:


You are just finding It difficult to unlearn what you have been made to believe over the years. Even our Lord Jesus let us know that so many ministers will be disqualified on that day.

make your points clear
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 10:34pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:


You are just finding It difficult to unlearn what you have been made to believe over the years. Even our Lord Jesus let us know that so many ministers will be disqualified on that day.

or you are like those Galatians who wants to get circumcised to preserve their salvation ....


Pick anything that is wrong in my posts ...

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2017
Ken4Christ:


You are just finding It difficult to unlearn what you have been made to believe over the years. Even our Lord Jesus let us know that so many ministers will be disqualified on that day.

and did I say that people won't be disqualified... I affirm it too ... Even the zealous keeper of the law will be disqualified if he thinks the law will save him

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by mexxmoney: 2:01am On Dec 12, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.

This is wrong teaching. We are saved by grace and preserved by grace. Man should never trust to his works

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by petra1(m): 4:18am On Dec 12, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.



I think your point is “FAITH WITHOUT WORK IS DEAD”

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 7:55am On Dec 12, 2017
How can you preserve what you didn't work for? Salvation is God's free gift which can only be preserved by God.


How can a man be saved? By putting faith in Jesus Christ.
Now a lot of people missunderstand this faith.
This faith is not a head knowledge or a mere consent, not a pledge to lead a better life but a faith that is borne out of convection on his sinfulness and his need to be saved in order words salvation is borne out of repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ.
Many people who are work base believers do not understand that their works can never qualify them to be saved it does not even add 1%.
Your works do not move God neither will it attract his mercy.
If you are a human being you need to be saved from your stinking sinful nature not trying to flaunt your stinking, self righteous, filthy works before God.
God does not save those who are trying to save themselves but he save those who are trusting in him to be saved.

Faith leads to followership, it is insane to say you trust a doctor but refuse to take the doctor's prescription. So, those who trust in Jesus will obey him. This is what separate a man who believes from a man who do not believe. Faith leads to work but works do not lead to salvation or preservation.
Those who are saved are preserved by the power of God in Christ through his word, and not through works.


1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.



Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by plainbibletruth: 9:08am On Dec 12, 2017
Salvation is God's work from the beginning to the end!

It is not started by God and "perfected" by man - the Christian. If it were then, what God did had a shortcoming that now required man to complete.

God saved us, not because of righteous things we had done (will still do) but because of His mercy - Titus 3:5

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by christemmbassey(m): 4:26pm On Dec 12, 2017
Goshen360:


This is complete nonsense! Your summary is wrong and heresy! Why would your good works preserve your salvation if you never wasn't saved by the good works in the first place?
my brother, I wonder ooo

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by christemmbassey(m): 4:39pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.

You see what tithes collection has led you into?
This is Profanity!
You foolish Galatians, who bewitched you..........
Have you started in the Spirit to end up in the flesh?
"the biggest problem in the church today is, many who don't know are teaching and feeding the flock poison.
Imaging this garbage!

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 4:55pm On Dec 12, 2017
christemmbassey:
You see what tithes collection has led you into?
This is Profanity!
You foolish Galatians, who bewitched you..........
Have you started in the Spirit to end up in the flesh?
"the biggest problem in the church today is, many who don't know are teaching and feeding the flock poison.
Imaging this garbage!

Am surprised too...


That's why the Bible says LET NOT ALL BE TEACHERS

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Amberon11: 5:00pm On Dec 12, 2017
Good message.
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by enshy: 5:22pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Yes, salvation is purely by grace and not of works. This is the requirements to get saved. But after you are saved, you are expected to do good works. Hence, Ephesians 2:10 says, "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them".

In addition Apostle Paul wrote, "Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works". (Titus 2:14). From this verse, we are not only expected to be involved in good works, we are supposed to be passionate about it. Failure to do that can make you lose your salvation.

Those who claim they are saved but are not involved in good works are those who "...profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.(Titus 1:16). "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". (2nd Timothy 2:12).

If you read carefully the letters our Lord Jesus wrote to the seven Churches in Asia minor, the emphasis was on works to each of the churches. And he warned them to repent and do the works they are supposed to do otherwise they will suffer the consequence.

The last letter which was addressed to the Church in Laodicians is of particular interest.

"He told them, I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."(Revelation 3:14-15).

What do you suppose Jesus meant when he said, I will spue thee out of my mouth? This is as good as saying, I will completely reject you. That city is located in the present day Turkey which are predominantly now Muslims.

The letters Jesus wrote to these churches is also addressed to us. At the end of each letter, It says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

A believer who says I am saved by grace but completely passive towards the works of the kingdom can be likened to a wicked and unreasonable servant in the parable of the talent. And the Scripture says,

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth - Matthew 25:30.

In Hebrews 10:25, Apostle Paul cautioned against habitual abstinence from Church meetings. He concluded that those who do that will fall under the judgment of God - Hebrews 10:26-31.

The message of grace has really been highly misunderstood. That you are saved by grace should even inspire you to serve God with zeal. If after your salvation, you are not ardently involved in a local Church, you have invariably nullified your salvation.

In summary, your good works does not save you but after you are saved, your good works preserves your salvation.

Good day sir, I admire your write up!
But sincerely sir, both salvation experience and it's preservation are of Grace but evident by works.
Everything about christianity is Grace and Grace alone!
'Now unto Him that is able to keep us from falling and presents us faultless'
For without Jesus, we can do nothing!

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by joshnes(m): 5:25pm On Dec 12, 2017
I think english has not done you justice here. Using the word "preserve" changes everything. Works are very important, they show who we actually are to the world, they give glory to God (Matt 5:16). We are actually saved to wrought good works, because after being saved, your works will be tried in heaven (Matt 25: 32-46). But nowhere in the bible is it suggested that we are "preserved" by works. Our faith in Jesus is actually shown by our works (James 2: 14-26). Faith Without Works Is Dead.

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:23pm On Dec 12, 2017
Goshen360:


This is complete nonsense! Your summary is wrong and heresy! Why would your good works preserve your salvation if you never wasn't saved by the good works in the first place?
lol, Goshen and Calvinism
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Goshen360(m): 6:25pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ubenedictus:
lol, Goshen and Calvinism

Wetin I do naw? Which calvinism?
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:31pm On Dec 12, 2017
enshy:

Good day sir, I admire your write up!
But sincerely sir, both salvation experience and it's preservation are of Grace but evident by works.
Everything about christianity is Grace and Grace alone!
'Now unto Him that is able to keep us from falling and presents us faultless'
For without Jesus, we can do nothing!
the God who created you without you will not save you without your cooperation

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:37pm On Dec 12, 2017
joshnes:
I think english has not done you justice here. Using the word "preserve" changes everything. Works are very important, they show who we actually are to the world, they give glory to God (Matt 5:16). We are actually saved to wrought good works, because after being saved, your works will be tried in heaven (Matt 25: 32-46). But nowhere in the bible is it suggested that we are "preserved" by works. Our faith in Jesus is actually shown by our works (James 2: 14-26). Faith Without Works Is Dead.
maybe the word preserve let him down, but he does have a point. Jesus told the parable of the vine and he told us that the guy without works AKA fruits will be cut of, which means the branch the continues in good work is assured of not been cut off.


in that parable works is presented as a test by which people are cut off or remain in the vine.
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:39pm On Dec 12, 2017
petra1:


I think your point is “FAITH WITHOUT WORK IS DEAD”
yes that is the point
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:41pm On Dec 12, 2017
Goshen360:


Wetin I do naw? Which calvinism?
lol the stuff you are crying about is sola fide and sola gratia, and you seem to explain them like Calvin
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Goshen360(m): 6:45pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ubenedictus:
lol the stuff you are crying about is sola fide and sola gratia, and you seem to explain them like Calvin

I no sabi Calvin....I teach scriptures. Good works are products of regeneration life not what preserves the regenerated life. What u think?

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by joshnes(m): 7:12pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ubenedictus:
maybe the word preserve let him down, but he does have a point. Jesus told the parable of the vine and he told us that the guy without works AKA fruits will be cut of, which means the branch the continues in good work is assured of not been cut off.


in that parable works is presented as a test by which people are cut off or remain in the vine.
You must be referring to John 15. true talk
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Ubenedictus(m): 7:19pm On Dec 12, 2017
Goshen360:


I no sabi Calvin....I teach scriptures. Good works are products of regeneration life not what preserves the regenerated life. What u think?
the first to interpret scriptures that way is Calvin, he practically invented the teachings you are defending.

you think it is scriptural because someone 400 yrs ago read that meaning into those passages and claimed that made his theories biblical.


you no sabi Calvin but you were taught his theories and told it was biblical.
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Goshen360(m): 7:26pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ubenedictus:
the first to interpret scriptures that way is Calvin, he practically invented the teachings you are defending.

you think it is scriptural because someone 400 yrs ago read that meaning into those passages and claimed that made his theories biblical.


you no sabi Calvin but you were taught his theories and told it was biblical.

Abeg leaf me joor. Treat what I said not whether it's Calvin or not.....again good works are products of a saved life by Grace and not what preserve the grace saving life. What's wrong in what I said?

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by Nobody: 7:45pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ubenedictus:
the first to interpret scriptures that way is Calvin, he practically invented the teachings you are defending.

you think it is scriptural because someone 400 yrs ago read that meaning into those passages and claimed that made his theories biblical.


you no sabi Calvin but you were taught his theories and told it was biblical.

I disagree with you Calvin didn't invent that view he only expanded it he talked about it more .. Not that he invented it

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Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by christemmbassey(m): 8:02pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ferisidowu:


I disagree with you Calvin didn't invent that view he only expanded it he talked about it more .. Not that he invented it
He gave himself for us, to rescue us from all wickedness and to make us a pure people who belong to him alone and are eager to do good.
Titus 2:14 GNT
http://bible.com/68/tit.2.14.GNT
Re: Saved By Grace But Preserved By Works. by christemmbassey(m): 8:06pm On Dec 12, 2017
Ferisidowu:


I disagree with you Calvin didn't invent that view he only expanded it he talked about it more .. Not that he invented it
For God has revealed his grace for the salvation of all people. That grace instructs us to give up ungodly living and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in this world,
Titus 2:11‭-‬12 GNT
http://bible.com/68/tit.2.11-12.GNT

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